This made me laugh:
Maybe you could post about the struggle to figure out how the smartest bunch of folks to ever grace the White House could manage to spend $300 billion dollars (the rest to be spent next year, and that’s just the stimulus) and have unemployment be 2% above your fearmongering projections with no end in sight to the lost jobs, you worthless arrogant piece of shit hack.
You gotta love the kind of fluid thinking that allows you to to flame the Obama administration for both underestimating and overestimating job losses in the same sentence.
Ahh, wingnuts.
valdivia
I want someone to explain to me how the wingnuts think the economy would be doing if we did nothing? also they also ignoring that the stimulus had a huge tax cut which is their preferred policy solution to everything?
General Winfield Stuck
Forget it Cole. It’s C.H.A.O.S.
Agent 86 and 99 have it under CONTROL.
Is that your shoe phone ringing?
jon
It’s only fearmongering if it’s ineffective. Or it works. Or something. Using fear of things to make suggestions is an unforgivably bad tactic, nevertheless. I think I read that in a comic from Chick Publications.
Also, government never made anything better.
bystander
Yep. They have the uncanny ability to reset the scoreboard to zero whenever it’s convenient. Resolving cognitive dissonance is hard work and can take you places you aren’t sure you want to go. Erasing the blackboard when it’s advantageous is much simpler. Either that, or it’s a severe short/medium term memory loss for which there is no known cure. Either way, they’re screwed, ergo, the epithet at the end used like a punctuation mark. Dismally familiar.
Dr. I. F. Stone
Sounds like the poster is far more accurate in his comments than the failed academic from West Virginia.
Bud
I’ll bet this wingnut recently threw away the last of the moldy beef jerky he hoarded for Y2K.
LD50
Wow. You’re right. Not all of us possess the schizophrenia necessary to put together the disparate parts of that sentence with a straight face.
And I see he’s mastered standard wingnut argumentation strategies…
LD50
@Dr. I. F. Stone:
A whiny, stupid comment doesn’t become intelligent by repeating it.
Tom_23
With an insult to boot.
LD50
@valdivia:
They don’t want us to do nothing. I’m sure they think that massive, permanent tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans would fix it, ‘cuz someone told them that’s totally what Reagan did and Reagan was like totally awesome.
Besides, any wingnut knows there was absolutely nothing wrong with the US economy until last January 20th. Either that or it was already fucked up but it was Clinton’s fault.
cleek
odd how Obama gets the heat for something that started it’s current trajectory under Bush.
i’d put my ire onto the guy who started this trend (almost two years ago), and not onto the guy who hasn’t been able to knock it back yet. but that’s because i’m not a wingnut hack.
Brick Oven Bill
“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”
-Phil Jones, academic
Why would a scientist fake data?
One answer would be greed. The scientist is in effect selling the trust that society places in him to be objective. He is selling his virtue.
Another would be envy. The scientist might have a chip on his shoulder because he has social problems, or money problems, and at some inner level wants to ‘get even’ with those who he envies.
Greed and envy are losing propositions in the long run however. This because people with situational awareness enough to not send out dumbass emails like that blanket email sent out by Jones, care about society, and feel the need to speak out. The climate change emails were not ‘hacked’. The climate change emails were released by a ‘whistleblower’. Definately an inside job.
You might want to delete this post as the Warmists have threatened to criminally prosecute anyone who spreads their writings. Not everyone is as Principled as Galileo. But in the end, the Catholic Church even pardoned Galileo, I think it was in the 1970s.
Molly
@Dr. I. F. Stone: “Sounds like the poster is far more accurate in his comments than the failed academic from West Virginia.”
Posting it twice still doesn’t make it clever.
feebog
And we never had a terrorist attack while Bush was in office! Also, too, you hack!
LD50
An added bonus to Chaos’s post is that it came at the end of a thread that wasn’t even about politics or economics. I guess his little wingnut brain was just roiling so bad with teabaggy indignation he just HAD to vent it somewhere.
JK
The screen name chaos is a perfect match for the level of reasoning displayed in the comment.
@Dr. I. F. Stone:
Why do you insist on using I.F. Stone’s name in vain? It’s not funny.
Molly
@Brick Oven Bill: “Why would a scientist fake data?”
Dunno. Ask the global warming deniers. I’m sure they’d have insight on this topic for you.
General Winfield Stuck
@Brick Oven Bill:
A little off topic aren’t we bobaluu? Tell you what. Why don’t you go down to Antarctica and pitch a tent. And in a few years when your floating on a melting ice cube in the South Pacific, we will look forward to your report the GW hoax. Meanwhile, I think Air Vent is calling you to saddle up. Run along now, and take plenty of shit paper and Penguin treats.
Citizen_X
Given that this comment was in an open thread revolving around whatever “meat sweats” were supposed to be, it’s completely unclear who the “worthless arrogant piece of shit hack” was. Alas, I was not partaking in the discussion, so I am not eligible for that honor. Unless he was referring to all liberals. Then, hooray for unfocused hate! He means me too!
But if he was referring specifically to Cole, don’t you have to be getting paid to be able to put “hack” on your resume?
James Hare
I love that the interloper courageously posted his comment on a dead thread at 3 in the morning EST. Really shows courage to stride into a conversation 3 hours after it’s over and start spewing nonsense.
Joe Max
Where do the authors of any of those e-mails say they faked data?
Answer: They don’t.
They’re just engaging in some whining about how corporate-backed reactionary idiots are getting paid to whomp up climate change denialism. It’s a tempest in a teapot, and it’ll be forgotten in a week.
They don’t want the Discovery Institute writing papers for biology journals either, because they are likewise paid by wingnut welfare to deny actual science – because they don’t want to believe what the actual science reveals is true.
Master skeptic Michael Shermer has changed his mind and is convinced man-made climate change is real. Based on the evidence, dumbass.
Enough feeding the troll, I’m going to go feed my face. Happy happy, all.
Brick Oven Bill
I am on-topic as the topic is Wing-Nuts. Most Wing-Nuts are academics, in my experience. This is because they feared judgment by the marketplace and stayed in school. These people do not like to be challenged. This is why Jones, the Alpha-Wing-Nut, decided to change the peer-review process with publically-funded research dollars.
Hilzoy is also a Wing-Nut academic. The reason she banished me was not because I keyed ‘Monkey Butler’ on my keyboard. I was not even addressing phil at the time. The reason is that when liberal arts teachers are presented with the Liberal Arts, they become confused, and panic. They then default to censorship or violence.
This is the same reason that the liberal crossed the street to bite off the finger of the Tea Bagger.
Plato’s Fourth Understanding:
“Mathematics is thought, and therefore is eternal, and can be known by all.”
Most modern academics fear thought, as thought challenges their Privilege, and they are mostly full of shit. See Phil Jones, and Hilzoy to a lesser extent.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
I thought that DougJ vetted his spoofs with you before posting them?
Oh well, I guess he is on his own.
The good news about this kind of thing is that nobody really pays any attention to the winger shit at this point except the other wingers. And the spoofs who are busy spoofing them, mining them for material.
I heard a hack pundit yesterday on tv saying that Obama was “dithering” because he had made his Afghanistan decision but wasn’t courageous enough to tell us about until next Tuesday. Don’t the troops deserve to know now? No, I am not making this up. I had to laugh out loud at that one.
Citizen_X
@Brick Oven Bill:
Oh, absolutely. Because if there’s one phrase that means “reliable source,” it’s “Russian hackers.” This side of Nigeria, at least.
Elizabelle
Gotta give Chaos props for his/her monicker.
Chaos definitely ensues if you allow folks with that level of perception and acuity to run your country for a few years.
See Bush-Cheney.
Elizabelle
Gotta give Chaos props for his/her monicker.
Chaos definitely ensues if you allow folks with that level of perception and acuity to run your country for a few years.
See Bush-Cheney.
Elizabelle
Sorry for the double-post.
So: a tip of the Thanksgiving turkey wing to John, Lily, Tunch and BJ regulars.
For whom I give thanks. Snark and wit and lotso good pictures. Every day.
General Winfield Stuck
@Brick Oven Bill:
Confucius say
BoB wank much
on Turkey Day
Svensker
Sweet, sweet words. Almost mellifluous, flowing off the tongue like milk and honey.
I hope he comes back and gives us more of this stuff — it’s really really persuasive yet amusing.
Nylund
At least 35 percent of that $300 billion wasn’t spent at all because it was actually in the form of tax cuts. But, if you have no job and no income, lowering one’s income tax doesn’t do much good. This was of course done to secure a few GOP votes to make the bill appear more bipartisan. But hey, if you’re new commentator really hates Obama’s bill, I’d suggest he tack on those extra dollars back into his tax bill so he’s paying taxes at the pre-stimulus rate and give them back to Uncle Sam to help fight off the deficit since its the most important thing evah. (except for when a Republican is in the White House, in which case, “deficits don’t matter”).
cleek
“arrogant” is the new black.
Liberty60
@valdivia:
I liked David Frum’s piece about how he was talking to a group of wingnuts, getting flamed for his support of the bailouts and he asked them this very question, i.e., what would you have done differently.
And all he got was: “I guess its good we weren’t in charge then.”
Jeezus
LD50
@cleek:
I thought that’s what ‘elitist’ was.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@Svensker:
Music to my tagged ears … if he’d give me credit for the line.
valdivia
@Liberty60:
yeah I know, yesterday I linked to some really great graphs that Ezra, Matt Y and Steve Bennen posted of where the economy would be if there had been no stimulus. See those graphs and weep. This is what reality would look like if these idiots had their way.
In the meantime I started drinking a fantastic carmenere I am serving tonight, listening to Muse and cooking. So all is well.
valdivia +1
licensed to kill time
@LD50:
I think “arrogant elitist” is the new blackity black black black.
Corner Stone
@Brick Oven Bill: This.Is.Genius.
DougJ, I salute you.
valdivia
@licensed to kill time:
I am seeing a lot of the “he is too cold” thing going around. Can you imagine if he got really angry what we would hear? Stereotypes gallore is what we would be hearing about angry black men. These people are so stupid.
Mike in NC
No, B.O.B. wank much pretty much every day. So what kind of stuffing is best served with troll?
different church-lady
@JK:
I’m sure it’s just a typo. He meant to type “I.M. Stoned”.
licensed to kill time
@valdivia:
No kidding. Next we’d see photo shopped images of Obama in a black beret holding an automatic rifle and giving a Black Power salute.
I don’t know, I guess we all see what we are predisposed to see, though I’d like to think that my stomach churning every time I saw W on my teevee was based on clear observation that the man had no command of the English language, came across as defensive and arrogant at the same time, and was demonstrably ill-suited for the job. You know, facts.
I see something totally different in Obama, but maybe they have that same gut churning reaction, based on ?? It would be irresponsible not to speculate…
calipygian
@different church-lady:
I suspect a certain blood relative of the real I.F.Stone who comments at this and other elitist, piece of shit hacky blogs will appear to rip this dick a new one pretty soon.
In her intelligent, sweet way of course.
licensed to kill time
@General Winfield Stuck:
Perhaps this book would be helpful:
I so want a copy.
Yutsano
@licensed to kill time: Right in time for the holidays too! Except of course the BBC doesn’t bother to include any details about how you actually purchase a copy. And their press is supposed to be better than ours. Feh.
licensed to kill time
@Yutsano: Yep, I noticed that, too.
Here’s the link for The Official CIA Manual of Trickery and Deception, get your copy today!
Yutsano
@licensed to kill time: Heh. I need a Christmas present for the Dawg too. Now I have ideas in my gourd. He’s gonna kill me. :)
bcinaz
I’m still waiting for someone to explain how the wingnut, rabid deficit hawks in the House and Senate managed to pass over a TRILLION DOLLARS in spending without a single funding mechanism or whiff of accountability.
I think Cheney told Bush that if you don’t actually write it down anywhere then voila, the debt doesn’t actually exist – you know, like keep funding the war with supplementals and lie about the costs of a massive medicare expansion. Kick every can on your side down the road and blame the next guy – the unluckiest guy in the universe to inherit all the messes and debt you created.
This would be wingnut governance in a nutshell.
Brachiator
@Nylund:
.
Not entirely the case. If you got no job, you’re screwed, but this is not the same thing as not having any income and not getting a benefit from the stimulus plan.
The tax bill included a number of new and expanded refundable tax credits. This means that even if your tax is zero, zilch, nada, you still get money from the government.
The wingnut commenter is a total tool, but some of the problems with the economic stimulus plan has gone unmentioned because most reporters and commenters are amateurs who don’t know squat about the tax system.
For example, there is a huge fraud industry built around getting bogus first time home buyer credits for people who cannot legally claim them. In one case a tax return was filed by a four year old to claim the credit. And neither the Congress nor the president originally checked on or gave the IRS sufficient enforcement authority to head this stuff off at the pass.
Still, overall, the plan does more good than harm and also by the way includes some huge business breaks.
And even if you got no job, you might get some relief. It is exceedingly rational, and humane, that you are now allowed to exclude some unemployment compensation from taxable income.
licensed to kill time
An Ode to Chaos:
“When Time himself grows old, your wondrous streams
lost e’en to memory, shall lie unknown
beneath Obscurity, and chaos whelm’d”
different church-lady
@licensed to kill time: That would completely explain it: every time Palin opens her mouth, she’s actually sending coded messages to our anti-socialist agents overseas.
RSA
@Brick Oven Bill:
Tell that to the libertarians–for some, it’s the entire basis for their so-called philosophy.
NobodySpecial
RSA nearly beat me to it, sort of.
cf. Republican Party.
Little Macayla's Friend
I’m thankful that I’ll never spend a family holiday, or any day, as a bitter little troll.
And thanks BJ.
slag
Maybe the “fearmongering” in the projections came from them being too low. After all, wingnuts were probably hoping unemployment would be much higher. At least, that’s what I assume from their immediate transition into team Herbert Hoover after inauguration.
The Republic of Stupidity
My money says he more likely just ate it… and is in the early stages of ‘regretting my choice’…
Comrade Darkness
@Yutsano: Ha ha ha ha. No. The British press is the pits. Their coverage of the U.S. just has a nice air of evenhandedness that comes from them not having a dog in the hunt.
licensed to kill time
Damn! Those C.H.A.O.S. agents stole my reply arrow again! I’ll have to get out my CIA manual and figure out the secret code to get it back….maybe I’ll tie 7 liberal knots in my s hoelaces.