Now you know what it felt like to be a Cardinals fan for the last 20 years. And a Forty Niners Fan in the 1970’s.
Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week, when we shit on your every hope ten times over.
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bayville
Not to sound like Jimmy the Greek but — suck it up.
Even if the Stillers lose tonite, team has a cakewalk schedule with only Miami on the road (last game) and Baltimore in Steeltown representing a tough clash.
With a little luck Paolamoulou will be back for those final two games. You could QB Pittsburgh next week and still win by 2 TDs against a done Oakland team heading east (again)to play in 20-degree temps.
10-6 is making the playoffs this year in AFC (especially considering heads up wins vs. Denver & San Diego).
Once in, anything is possible. Remember the Cards of ’09 and the Steelers of a few years ago for most recent examples.
@debit: Hey, maybe we Vikes’ fans can dominate the thread again!
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debit
@asiangrrlMN: Yes! But can we do it for 6 hours? Man what shall I watch? Colts & Texans or Redskins & Eagles?
22.
gwangung
@asiangrrlMN: Not gonna get any Seahack fans contesting that.
(and editing because I can. Safari 4.0.4)
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Zach
According to the Baltimore Sun’s latest update, Suggs is definitely out, Reed is likely out and hasn’t practiced all week, and Ray Lewis will play but will be slowed down by injury. Not sure how good Ngata will be.
Apparently Dixon didn’t get all that much practice time; if he had, the Steelers could’ve put together a run package that would’ve been very effective against a decimated Ravens D. That’d lead to 1 on 1 pass defense, and any unexperienced QB could beat the Ravens secondary right now w/ the Steelers receivers.
Unless it turns out that Dixon can’t hold onto the ball when he’s sacked or Baltimore rediscovers the secret to scoring a touchdown, I think Pittsburgh wins. You’re forgetting that Baltimore couldn’t even get an offensive touchdown against the Cleveland Browns, who were subsequently thrashed by the Detroit Lions.
Because the Redskins’ offense isn’t very good and Philly’s at home?
32.
arguingwithsignposts
I am totally bummed on the NFL restricting online streaming access to people who don’t live in the US. As a US citizen without a TV, but with Internet access, I’m screwed because of their dickish behavior.
FU NFL.
33.
donovong
Feeling bad about the Stillers? Tough shit, dude. Try being a Braves fan. Since about 1973.
No edit funkshun.
Okay, i haz edit, but only after I hit refresh. Weerd.
Didn’t Cleveland score 30+ against the Lions only to lose by a single point? That’s not the way I’d define “thrash”.
36.
Face
@debit: I about shat myself when I saw that. Ried’s a friggin ijit.
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debit
Even if I would ever drink domestic beer of my own free will, I would boycott whichever brand they do that mock infomercial for. Unfunny, annoying and pointless because I can’t remember the brand 60 seconds after it’s over.
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jwb
@debit: No, I don’t get these feelings all the time, and the Vikes being the Vikes are overdue for a bad game.
This is gonna be a rough game for your Steelers, Cole. And I only break my “Boooo, Steelers” rule twice a year… when they play the abhorrent Ravens.
So I’m actually pulling for you! (Although I do cop to dropping Mendenhall out of my lineup and sliding Turner back in, since the ankle doesn’t seem to be that bad.)
ETA: I’m using Windows XP, and Chrome 3.0.195.33, and I have the edit. Hooray!
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licensed to kill time
@John Cole: Yes! Edit AND delete, I was so happy when I saw that this morning! Firefox 3.5.5 and XP.
P.S. Hope your Stillers win. I know zippo about foozball.
Even if I would ever drink domestic beer of my own free will, I would boycott whichever brand they do that mock infomercial for. Unfunny, annoying and pointless because I can’t remember the brand 60 seconds after it’s over.
I frequently wish I drank so that I could boycott American-brewed industrial beers, just because their ads are so offensive.
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Nethead Jay
For me, the big game is Saints – Patriots tomorrow. Geaux Saints!!!
But tonight I hope that the Steelers pull together and win despite the circumstances, that the Vikings pound the Bears into the ground, and especially that the Texans end the Colts’ undefeated run. Looking good so far on the last one, they’re up 14-0 and Matt Schaub looks like a man on a mission.
I’m ok, I figured you had to be feeling a little better if you’re here posting.
If you skipped CBS Sunday Morning, you missed a nice profile of Tom Petty and a good cover story on Second City. If you skipped the Sunday shows, you didn’t miss a damn thing because as Danny Schechter says when it comes to the MSM “the more you watch, the less you know.”
@Tokyokie: This is the perfect response. I so agree with you, both on the drinking beer part and the boycotting American beers for their offensive, stupid ads.
The problem there being that you’ve handed clock management responsibilities to Brad Childress. I’m going to be ecstatic when his lack of skill in that area costs the Queens in the post-season.
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Nethead Jay
Also, no edit function, Firefox on XP.
51.
nalbar
How and the world can anyone say it sucks to be a Steelers fan right now? They are, without a doubt, the best run team in the NFL. They get rid of players at the perfect time, get the right players in the right places every year. They never have egos driving their teams into the ground. A down year is 9-7 or 10-6. Their owner and general manager ‘get it’.
They are a ‘Professional Football Team’ in the truest sense of the word. From the owner all the way down. Even if they went 6-10 they would be better than the Cowboys or the Redskins or the Chargers going 11-5 the same year. Why? Because you would know they would fix the issue, instead of smashing the team apart to appease egos. Their fans can say ‘next year’ and it’s TRUE. There is always a ‘next year’, because they know how to win over the long haul.
@JK: Nope. I took off last night for personal reasons, not sick reasons. I don’t watch any of the Sunday morning talkies–ever. Makes me too mad.
Andy K, I do not doubt that the Vikes will trip themselves up in the post-season. Since I have mixed feelings about the team, I’m not really bothered either way. Yet.
53.
Comrade Kevin
Edit function?
Yes, edit function, Safari 4.0.3 on the Mac
54.
debit
@Andy K: I’ve watched the Vikings fall apart post season for the last 20 years. You think I’ll cry if they do it again? Hah!
ETA: That was a pretty interception for Houston.
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jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Is it just Favre that bothers you or are there other factors? I’m still really having a hard time dealing with Favre as QB.
@debit: Agreed. And, agreed. Kinda want a team to win out so we can stop hearing about the ’72 Dolphins. Would prefer it to be the Saints.
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smiley
testing
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jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Definitely would rather it be the Saints than the Colts. I still won’t forgive the Colts for leaving Baltimore.
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Zach
@Andy K: Their defense was thrashed. Detroit happens to have the other worst defense in the league so it was a mutual thrashing. The halftime highlight reel looked like NFL Blitz.
I’ve watched the Vikings fall apart post season for the last 20 years. You think I’ll cry if they do it again?
I don’t know if you’ll shed any tears, but I think that by the time they do blow it- whether by being pounded by a wild card team at home in the Divisional Round or blowing a double-digit lead in New Orleans or in the Super Bowl- you will feel absolutely gobsmacked.
Edit: Well, check this shit out. Works in OmniWeb (Webkit browser). Looks good John, congrats.
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debit
@Andy K: “The Vikings played the Washington Redskins in the NFC Championship Game on January 17, 1988, at RFK Stadium. Trailing 17–10, the Vikings drove to the Redskins’ six yard line with a little over a minute left in the game but failed to get the ball into the end zone. Darren Nelson dropped a pass from Wade Wilson at the goal line to officially end the Vikings’ hopes of a Super Bowl.” (From Wikipedia)
That was the last time I have felt anything other mild annoyance regarding a Vikings loss. That one gutted me for all of eternity.
74.
jeffreyw
yay! chatzy is back up!
75.
jeffreyw
And Boo! No edit for me..stop that lookin smug, y’all with yer fancy edits and stuff.
There’s a probably a 99.999999% chance that this won’t happen, but how fucking cool would it be to see the Indiannapolis Colts and the New Orleans Saints both go undefeated and then play each other in the Super Bowl? There would be some amazing hype for the 2 weeks following the Conference Championship games.
I can’t stand the insufferable smugness of those 1972 Miami Dolphins, especially Mercury Morris, so I want some team, any team to break that goddamn record one of these years.
78.
debit
@Andy K: I was too little to watch then, but my dad still winces at the very mention.
Obama’s approval rating is in the low 50’s, which is remarkable for an administration that has waded into the shitpile we hired him to deal with, at this point. He is on the verge of getting the first comprehensive health bill ever passed in this country, wrestling with two completely fucked up foreign occupation/war scenarios, tightrope walking through an economic trainwreck, and doing it all in the middle of the most divisive and contentious political climate in any of our memories. Playing to a feckless and inane press, and to a demanding public that wants progressive services and low taxes at the same time.
Seems to me the guy doing great, and statements like yours just wither into gratuitous WATB blog bullshit.
But hey, I’m just a creature who walks on all fours who has to type with a hoof.
@Andy K: Hon, I lived through the 15-1 season, only to have Gary Anderson blow it on a field goal to the Falcons–who then blew it when Robinson (I believe that was his name) hooked up with hookers the night before the Super Bowl. In addition, I have lived through the Twins winning the division on the last day three times in the last four years, only to be swept in the first round of the play-offs two of those three years–by the Yankees. NOTHING in sports will leave me gobsmacked any more.
@JK: That would be amazing. And then, the game would suck for one reason or another.
I forgot I haz edit! Wheeee!
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debit
Oh that was such a pretty catch. Man, look at Houston go.
ETA: I am making a pork loin roast in the French tradition, with roasted Yukon Golds with rosemary butter and a some caramelized pearl onions. I dare say my house smells delicious.
84.
You Don't Say
Dixon may surprise. Have faith!
FYI: I do not have edit button.
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IndyLib
I thought I was unfond of Kyle Orton, but I found that I was even more unfond of Phil Simms kid, who is a crappy backup quarterback.
This post is to see if I have edit. I haven’t had it for so long on Firefox I’m not sure I’ll recognize it.
86.
Fern
Testing
And editing because I can!
Google Chrome on Vista.
87.
IndyLib
Well, unless it is invisible, I still have no edit on Firefox 3.5.5 on my Mac.
Obama’s approval rating is in the low 50’s, which is remarkable for an administration that has waded into the shitpile we hired him to deal with, at this point. He is on the verge of getting the first comprehensive health bill ever passed in this country, wrestling with two completely fucked up foreign occupation/war scenarios, tightrope walking through an economic trainwreck, and doing it all in the middle of the most divisive and contentious political climate in any of our memories. Playing to a feckless and inane press, and to a demanding public that wants progressive services and low taxes at the same time.
Yeah. Well. Life’s tough. Obama’s got a job to do, and he needs to deliver. Stat. And if recognizing that fundamental reality makes someone a WATB but spending a whole paragraph making excuses doesn’t, then so be it. Life’s tough.
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debit
Ah hah hah hah!!! Oh Peyton, that was very bad pass.
Yeah. Well. Life’s tough. Obama’s got a job to do, and he needs to deliver. Stat. And if recognizing that fundamental reality makes someone a WATB but spending a whole paragraph making excuses doesn’t, then so be it. Life’s tough.
That’s your response? A long-winded “oh yeah?”
I’ll just stand on what I wrote at 78, then.
You wouldn’t know a “fundamental reality” if you stuck your dick in it, dude.
Obama’s “delivery” is due in early November 2012. Check back then, and let’s see what happens. And the “job he has to do” is not to make whiny little crybabies happy every day while he gets there.
Since this is an open thread, WTF is up with this:
TACOMA, Wash. (AP) — Four police officers were shot and killed Sunday morning in what authorities called a targeted ambush at a coffee house in Washington state, a sheriff’s official said.
Pierce County Sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer told The News Tribune in Tacoma one or two gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. and shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene.
Troyer said investigators believe the officers were targeted, and it was not a robbery.
”It looks like a flat-out ambush,” Troyer told the newspaper.
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Dave C
Everything except the first line in my previous post was meant to be in block quotes. And, no, I still don’t have an edit function.
You probably shouldn’t bring the recent Twins’ teams into the conversation- the AL Central has been the back door into the post-season for most of the decade. In the old two division/league arrangement, the Twins wouldn’t have made the playoffs. The pervasive attitude should have been “Just happy to be here. Success will be a bonus.”
But I know your pain following the loss to the Falcons. As a Packers fan, I felt it after the playoff loss to the Niners in ’99 (two weeks before Anderson’s miss), and that was a year removed from the SB loss to the Broncos, and only two removed from winning the SB.
But the NFL is a roller coaster ride of emotions, and it only fully satisfies the fans of one team a year. If you aren’t able to appreciate the lows along with the highs, why ride?
I, for one, am highly sympathetic with the plight of this administration. But I’m also not blind. No amount of placing blame on the south or on the press or on Congress is going to help at this stage. Maybe you’ve heard of a little something called a narrative. Well, it’s been in the works for a while now (the Peace Prize was when it really started to roll), and now it’s finally becoming worrisome. Whether or not it’s fair is totally beside the point.
Maybe you’ve heard of a little something called a narrative. Well, it’s been in the works for a while now (the Peace Prize was when it really started to roll), and now it’s finally becoming worrisome. Whether or not it’s fair is totally beside the point.
Narrative? I’ve heard of such a thing. Maybe if I discover a way to string together the posts you make and find a coherent strand of thought in them ……
You sound like Brick Oven Bill, but without the guile.
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Andy K
Running Vista and Firefox 3.5, and I’ve got the edit function.
109.
debit
Pictures if my iphone can do a decent job, which I rather doubt. Sadly, it’s my only option ATM.
Why are the Texans doing what Minnesota usually does in the third quarter? Stop falling apart right now!
@AngusTheGodOfMeat: Then I’ll use small words so you can understand: Obama approval down. Snowball effect likely. Bad for America.
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licensed to kill time
@Comrade Kevin: It sure was. But dang, I sort of snickered. I’m going to hell.
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peach flavored shampoo
OT, but 4 cops shot and killed in an ambush in a coffee shop near Seattle.
This wouldn’t have happened if cops were allowed to carry guns to defend themselves. Wait……
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gwangung
@slag: I’ll use smaller words. Daily news cycle. Don’t get caught up in.
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flukebucket
@slag: Approval ratings will go up and down. No need to dwell on them. When he gets into the high teens or low twenties and stays there for months maybe it will be time to worry. He is going to be the President until at least 2012. I am not too worry about what happens in 2010. I cannot imagine people flocking to Republicans for answers.
@Lisa K.: Um, I am a Vikings fan. You know, the Vikes who haven’t won a freaking Super Bowl despite making it four times? That team? I was snarking at Cole.
@flukebucket: In addition, it’s not Obama’s job to pump up his ratings. Indeed, with our dipshit media, I doubt there is much he could do that would help the country AND please the dipshit media.
People are stupid and are going to believe what they want to believe. Nothing Obama can do about that.
Oh well. There’s no snowball effect. Your argument = fail.
You remind me of George W. Bush. “Being presnint is haaaaaaard! Waah!”
Only with you it’s “Being a citizen is haaaaaaard, and skeery too! I want more deliveries of puppies!”
Bleah.
121.
gwangung
Approval ratings are the quintessential daily news cycle. IGNORE.
122.
debit
And Colts come storming back.
@asiangrrlMN: I’m trying to not think of politics today, but I have to agree with this. The dipshit media is going to keep trying to sell their narrative until people stop buying it. And if the people keep buying it, I guess it makes them dipshits too.
@flukebucket: I totally get that thinking. And I’m not quite pessimistic enough to think that sane people will be running to Republicans for answers. But a depressed Democratic base is a huge concern to me. We don’t need more Dick Morris’ lurking around the WH. Not that I necessarily think Obama’s that stupid. But I don’t have much faith in our Congress to keep things moving in a positive direction. Especially if they start to panic, which is not exactly unheard of.
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gwangung
@slag: Yeah, but approval ratings are the quintessential daily news cycle. Ignore those. Pay attention to longer range things. And long range is 2012.
To quote a famous philosopher: Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
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charles johnson
Obama’s approval rating is in the low 50’s, which is remarkable for an administration that has waded into the shitpile we hired him to deal with, at this point. He is on the verge of getting the first comprehensive health bill ever passed in this country, wrestling with two completely fucked up foreign occupation/war scenarios, tightrope walking through an economic trainwreck, and doing it all in the middle of the most divisive and contentious political climate in any of our memories. Playing to a feckless and inane press, and to a demanding public that wants progressive services and low taxes at the same time.
Seems to me the guy doing great, and statements like yours just wither into gratuitous WATB blog bullshit.
Gah. No kidding. From her column, winning observations such as:
She nurtures her grass roots while he neglects his.
So I guess leaving without signing books for her fans who waited for hours in the cold, and even had the required wristbands, is “nurturing”? Or maybe her quitting the 5K before the end so she wouldn’t have to deal with all those pesky fans is the “nurturing” of which Maureen Dowd speaks.
Maureen Dowd is an idiot, an embarrassment, and a very poor excuse for a columnist at a major newspaper.
@slag: @flukebucket: Actually, when he gets into the low-to-mid 40’s, it’s time to worry, if electoral history is any indication. I think he’s fine right now, but I’m with slag, in that the narrative is real, and the narrative is growing stronger, even though I don’t personally believe it has anything to do with Obama’s drop in approval.
It’s the economy, and he could be a bare-breasted Sarah Palin on a Unicorn* and he’d still have falling approval among the mushy center.
It’s the economy, and he could be a bare-breasted Sarah Palin on a Unicorn* and he’d still have falling approval among the mushy center.
In spite of the imagery, I find this point hard to disagree with. But points can be earned with a more populist message. At least with the Dem base, which is really our best hope for minimizing the damage in the midterms. That and more movement on social issues and on civil liberties and…
Irritated that posting ability is intermittent. But the “snowball” is quintessential daily news cycle. Focus on the long term.
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debit
Grump. Stupid Houston.
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charles johnson
Honestly, though, I’ve pretty much given up on politics. I live in a conservative county, and these people would literally vote in a republican arsonist child molester if he promised to cut property taxes by 5%. The country’s falling apart, the soon-to-be-elderly baby boomers, who if history is any guide, will vote in record numbers, are all programmed with that “Gummint is always bad free market always good.” mentality which is wrecking our infrastructure and social net. Ecologists say we’re witnessing and initiating a period of species collapse and environmental degradation and I turn on the tv and see ACORN! White House party crashers! I get an email from an otherwise intelligent friend along the lines of “ZOMG these two out of context words in one of a thousand emails from ten years ago totally invalidates all so-called climate science EVAR!!111” And he’s a relatively smart guy. Most people in the US are more like my Alabama relatives who, this past thanksgiving, told me that for every white Murkin paying into Social Security, there are 10 illegal aliens drawing checks from it. They’re too dumb to even talk to, much less successfully reason with.
In short, and I say this not out of hostility or depression, but rather a casual acceptance, I don’t think our species has the ability to not doom itself. Maybe that’s the solution to the Fermi Paradox–once a species gets enough technology to make an impact, they quickly bone themselves into oblivion. We’re naked, greedy monkeys who’ve now figured out how to build nuclear bombs and set mountain-fulls of carbon on fire, and we are not long for this Earth.
Ronald Reagan may provide a closer parallel to Obama. Both took office as the nation’s economy was in perilous times. Reagan was at 60% at six months, but his standing slipped below 50% by the end of his first year in office as the jobless rate swelled. It would take two years and economic recovery before a majority of Americans would approve of his presidency again.
Obama’s approval rating will fall, and rise, on employment figures.
Meanwhile progressive policy continues to make inroads, by fits and starts, but nothing is going to happen “stat.” First, or A, America is not a big hospital ward. And B, or Two, employment is a lagging indicator, and as we predicted last year, unemployment will probably not peak until well into the first half of 2010.
Between the two possible reactions, “EEK!” versus “Keep our eyes on the ball,” I prefer the latter. “EEK!” has just never worked that well for me.
I know it’s not newsworthy to point out something stupid by Maureen Dowd, but in this column she borrowed that goddamn Cheney line about dithering. That’s a new low for Maurren as far as I’m concerned.
If she could ever pull that off, I’d want to have Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck hooked up to EKG monitors to see which one would pass out first.
The country’s falling apart, the soon-to-be-elderly baby boomers, who if history is any guide, will vote in record numbers, are all programmed with that “Gummint is always bad free market always good.” mentality which is wrecking our infrastructure and social net.
Please don’t tar all us baby boomers with that brush. A lot of us are still DFH’s and proud of it.
I get your sense of despair, however. Some days I share it – well, a lot of days actually.
@slag: This actually makes some sense, but I disagree in that our side is much more picky about what they will and won’t support. I would love Obama to move to the left, but I don’t think he can move far enough to satisfy the lefties. Batshitcrazynutters are unified in their hatred of him. Supporters are all over the map as to what they think Obama needs to do. It’s just easier to unite around hate than around a common good.
Does Bill Belichick remind anyone of Richie Aprile from The Sopranos in terms of his moody, miserable fucker demeanor?
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Maude
@AngusTheGodOfMeat: It’s amazing that he has as high a rating as he does. Look at what shape things are in.
I’m so sick of the whingeing and harping on every little thing.
Wait until Wednesday.
Gonna test edit on K-Meleon, xp
Now you know what it felt like to be a Cardinals fan for the last 20 years. And a Forty Niners Fan in the 1970’s.
Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week, when we shit on your every hope ten times over.
Oh, now I get it. It is about being a fan. Can you display the same kind of guts for your local girl’s soccer team? Or does it work only for steroid pumped men who make millions of dollars a year playing for pasty white men making hundreds of millions a year while getting a billion dollars in subsidies from local and state governments?
Like they said when I was a soldier, I got your fandom hanging.
Over at CNN/SI as I was looking at scores and I noticed that their game-time weather conditions for tomorrow’s Saints/Pats game was mostly cloudy/72 degrees. I guess they think that white ceiling in the Superdome is cloud cover.
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Morbo
We’re going to need another thread…
Who the hell is Buckley? Let McCoy score a damn touchdown; screw you, Andy Reid!
Now you know what it felt like to be a Cardinals fan for the last 20 years. And a Forty Niners Fan in the 1970’s. Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week, when we shit on your every hope ten times over.
Oh, now I get it. It is about being a fan. Can you display the same kind of guts for your local girl’s soccer team? Or does it work only for steroid pumped men who make millions of dollars a year playing for pasty white men making hundreds of millions a year while getting a billion dollars in subsidies from local and state governments?
Like they said when I was a soldier, I got your fandom hanging.
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Ed Drone
What is this “edit function” of which you speak?
Ed
168.
SiubhanDuinne
O/T but I have had a mildly interesting coincidence today. In last night’s open thread the subject of the Spanish Civil War came up for a while. Today I watched a couple of old movies I had never seen: The End of the Affair, and Dancing at Lughnasa. In EotA, early on, there was a reference to drinking “bad sherry from South Africa” because the SCW had made it impossible to obtain the good stuff. Then in DaL, a secondary character heads off to Spain to fight against Franco. Now I realise both films (like last night’s Casablanca) are set in the ’30s and ’40s, so maybe it’s not a huge stretch. But none of the films was *about* the SCW — the references were all in passing — and I was just struck by the way it came up for me in three successive films.
Unfortunately, folks like at GOS think that Obama was elected supreme leader of Congress as well. They’ve unknowningly bought into the GOP meme that everything is Obama’s fault. If the GOP filibusters everything, that too will be Obama’s fault.
Never underestimate the stupid GOP to properly take advantage of a stupid electorate.
@Nethead Jay: @Lisa K.: Sorry. I should have mentioned that my temporary affection for the Colts had everything to do with my fantasy football team playing Matt Schaub, and Reggie Wayne being one of the stars of my team, and yet Schaub still did a lot of damage. Booo, The Schaub. Why is fantasy football so gut-wrenching at times?
Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week.
Try telling that to a New York Yankees fan. Prior to them beating the Philadelphia Phillies, all I heard from these bozos was pissing and moaning about not having won a World Series title since way the hell back in 2000. Are there any sports fans on Earth who are more spoiled rotten than these miserable brats who root for the Yankees?
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charles johnson
“I get your sense of despair, however. Some days I share it – well, a lot of days actually.”
I didn’t have quite as much despair until rather recently, with reports that global temps could go up by 10 degrees F in the next century, some ecologists and biologists telling me their colleagues expected not just massive extinction, but probably a large human die-off, and the aforementioned inability of many people to even accept the possibilities of such things.
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Nethead Jay
@Lisa K.: Okay, but I hope you’ll be cursing my team and me tomorrow. Again geaux Saints ;)
Reagan’s popularity in the 80’s created a large bolus of voters who still share that ideology.
I hated LBJ for the escalation of the Vietnam war, Nixon because he was a slimy crook, Ford/Carter – meh , but Reagan was the first guy that made me say “If that guy gets elected, I am leaving the country”. And did, for a large part of his term(s).
Guess who was the second guy? ;-)
(I understand your point. He was poisonous to the body politic).
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geg6
I have no doubt my beloved Stillers are gonna suck balls tonight. But to make up for it, my John is making steaks, a wonderful salad with bleu cheese (my fave!), garlic mashed potatoes, shrimp appetizer, and raspberry cheesecake for dessert. With a nice big bottle of syrah that I picked up on sale, I expect to be +4 or 5 by the time our humiliation on national teevee is complete.
When it comes to amateur sports, I spent a lot of time at Pop Warner games and Little League games for the kids and the grandkids. My recollection was that, among the adults, the buzz was mostly about the kids. Will my kid get to play? Will he have fun? I hope he doesn’t get hurt. Ow, that was a helluva hit he took. That sort of thing. Winning and losing the games wasn’t really the big deal in the leagues I was circulating in, except for a few hothead parents here and there. And they were the exception, not the rule.
No way to compare amateur sports spectatorship with professional sports fandom. Apples and mangoes. Amateur sports is human interest, while professional sports is some kind of mass hypnosis thing. How else to believe in the Immaculate Deception, for example? Heh.
Are there any sports fans on Earth who are more spoiled rotten than these miserable brats who root for the Yankees?
Let me tell you, if the Colts even sniff the SB, then 2009 is going down as the worst sports season on record for me. First the Lakers, then the Yankees, then…ugh. I can’t even think about it.
Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week, when we shit on your every hope ten times over.
Fan 1: What about last season?
Fan 2: What about it?
Fan 1: They were rubbish. They were fucking rubbish.
Fan 2: They weren’t that bad.
Fan 1: They were fucking rubbish last year. And they were fucking rubbish the year before. And I don’t care if they are top of the League, they’ll be fucking rubbish this year, too. And next year. And the year after that. I’m not joking.
Fan 2: I don’t know why you come, Frank. Honest I don’t.
Fan 1: Well, you live in hope, don’t you?
-Fever Pitch (the original, and far superior, British version)
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debit
Oh crap. Fumble. Crap.
AP, honey, how can I have your babies if you don’t hang on to the ball?
Thanks for your comments. I’m glad to see that there are still some Yankee haters out there. One of the most disgusting things I observed after the Yankees beat the Phillies in the deciding game were congratulatory messages to Yankee fans on the NY Yankees Message Board posted by fans of other teams. I couldn’t fucking believe these assholes were congratulating the most arrogant, obnoxious, classless sports fans in America. I mean what unbelievable obstacles did the Yankees have to overcome after signing the top 3 free agents during the off season?
Oh, now I get it. It is about being a fan. Can you display the same kind of guts for your local girl’s soccer team? Or does it work only for steroid pumped men who make millions of dollars a year playing for pasty white men making hundreds of millions a year while getting a billion dollars in subsidies from local and state governments?
You mean the local girls soccer team whose unis, coaches, transportation and pitch are subsidized by taxes? Federal, state and local taxes? And if I displayed any sort of guts supporting the Springfield High tetherball team, would anyone outside of Springfield care to discuss, let alone pay attention?
Do we display any guts as fans of the Springfield High debate and forensics teams? Probably not. But when those kids grow up, they become lawyers, elected officials and bureaucrats, and we subsidize what they do and hope that they’ll make us happy by performing their duties to the best of their abilities. Some days they piss us off and we let the world know about it.
I don’t like Favre either and was hoping he’d be carried off the field at some point this season. The prima donna act that he goes thru at the end of each season debating whether or not he’ll return is so fucking tired, I just want to see him pulverized so that he’ll stop jerking everyone’s chain.
I’ve got Shiancoe and Berrian going, with James Harrison and Dawan Landry yet to come (IDP league). Good week so far, thanks in no small part to A-Rodge’s and Double D’s production in Motown.
Has John Cole gone into a pre-Stiller coma? We are +4 on the hours here…this thread is gonna get drunk.
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peach flavored shampoo
@arguingwithsignposts: No no no no no nononononononoooooooo. NO AP all day. Same for Rice. Need double sprained ankles or PMS or something.
I’ll take a Harvin touch. Go Bears!
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debit
@licensed to kill time: I picture him hugging Lily and rocking back and forth, murmuring into her neck, “It’s gonna be okay, I swear, it’s gonna be okay.”
Yes, but unfortunately Arsenal are just soft. And have been. Sagna twice fails to close down Cashley and they score two goals.
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licensed to kill time
LOL. Now we get a new thread, and there are SIX links/articles to read before a nuanced comment is possible. Be careful what you wish for!
(Not that I’d prolly be making a nuanced comment anyway)
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Morbo
@Andy K: Bad memories, I’m facing those two this week and a Lions partisan. I need some production out of Boldin and Sims-walker right now… goos eggs so far. Flex league, looks like I should’ve put in Fred Jackson for one of them.
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debit
@licensed to kill time: You know we’re gonna get a time out if we keep picking on him during this, his hour of pain.
I feel for ya. I root for the D in the other three pro sports, but the Yooper genes from dad’s side of the family make me a Packers fan. I hope, for sanity’s sake, that you live inside the blackout zone. My friends here in GR don’t have that luck.
I couldn’t fucking believe these assholes were congratulating the most arrogant, obnoxious, classless sports fans in America.
You’ve never met Duke Blue Devils fans, I take it.
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debit
Now that the defense has finally showed up I hope the offense isn’t too far behind.
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Andy K
Is it just my perception, or is that Kay Jewlers’ ad the most patronizing piece of bullshit ever? And is there any middle ground for Avatar? Looks like it will either be great or an unwatchable piece of overblown crap.
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jwb
@JD Rhoades: Duke fans. Hates, hates, hates, hates, hates.
@Andy K: I fucking hate all jewelry commercials and holiday car commercials as well, but especially the jewelry ones. “He doesn’t really love you if he doesn’t go into debt to buy a useless piece of carbon that was mined by children in South Africa.”
Jarrett Allen–just go down with it. Seriously.
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debit
Okay, the offense is now here. 1st and goal.
@asiangrrlMN: I hate jewelry commercials for that and for the obvious marketing ploy aimed at guys: buy her a diamond and it’s a slam dunk that you’ll get head tonight.
The ad I’m talkin’ ’bout is the one with the couple in the cabin, where the grown woman gets frightened by thunder and lightning AS SHE’S WATCHING THE STORM THROUGH THE WINDOW! Then her daddy s.o. says, “Don’t worry, I’m right here.” Because grown women are all really four-year olds on the inside. Sheesh….Yeah, I agree with you that all jewelry ads are bad, but this one is the worst I remember.
Jarred Allen looked a bit turned around there. What is it about those Vikings that makes ’em lose their bearings?
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jwb
So how exactly do you throw an illegal downfield pass from your opponent’s 1 yard line? (I’m only getting the text feed here.)
@debit: I was just prescient. Favre to Shiancoe! 24-7.
I watched Wanda last week and there was a woman on the ‘help with your romance’ segment. The woman said, and I shit you not, “I have been living with my wonderful boyfriend for three years, but I told him not to propose until he could afford the diamond ring I was worth. Is that wrong of me?”
Wanda: Who the hell says that? Really!
Snotty woman: I worked hard (in politics), and I deserve it.
Me: Then buy the goddamn ring your own self. Wanda! Tell her boyfriend to R-U-N from her! Women like that give us a baaaad name.
Andy K., I mute all commercials, so I don’t have a complete meltdown over them, but I’ve seen the visuals to that one.
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Punchy
@Andy K: Cannot possibly worse than the bloody ears I get from the Jared commercials, and that ear-splitting chick that screeches out the tagline.
True story: bawt the engagement ring from Shane Co., and the saleswoman asked me why. I said I refused to step foot into Jared due to their asinine commercials, and they said that about 1 in 3 peeps tell them that very thing. That’s not how advertising is supposed to work, methinks.
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Andy K
Stick a fork in the Bears. They’re done for the season. So much for Cutler turning them around.
If you notice the Sony PSP ads on, demute. Those are pretty damned funny.
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debit
@Andy K: Hmm. I was gonna say he needs more than a season to mesh with a team, but then I looked at his record when he was in Denver and really his stats weren’t that great even after three seasons. Pity. I’d like to have a young QB to be excited about, but he isn’t it.
And you guys know there’s another open thread upstairs, right?
They should have stuck with Orton and gone after receivers via the draft and free agency. Cutler, in Denver, had some great games in the midst of mediocre seasons, but he helped make ’em mediocre seasons by having some absolutely crappy games where he tried to force it and threw three or more picks- as has been happening lately in Chicago.
As a Yankees fan I’m never quite sure what I enjoy most, the win, or the apoplexy of the haters.
Eh. That is only because you are in denial about what a bunch of douchebags you actually cheer for. It is the only way you can carry on without wanting to kill yourself, so I understand the defense mechanism, even as I pity it..
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skippy
four open threads in a row? what is this, eschaton?
DBrown
Its just a game with people paid many millions to hurt each other so we can act like they are playing (or even give a shit) about us (our city … )
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Now you know what it felt like to be a Cardinals fan for the last 20 years. And a Forty Niners Fan in the 1970’s.
Fandom takes guts, it is not for the weak. Anybody can beat their chest for a winning team, but character is built when you root for a shit team. And then they get worse. And then they say, oh, yo think that sucked, wait until next week, when we shit on your every hope ten times over.
bayville
Not to sound like Jimmy the Greek but — suck it up.
Even if the Stillers lose tonite, team has a cakewalk schedule with only Miami on the road (last game) and Baltimore in Steeltown representing a tough clash.
With a little luck Paolamoulou will be back for those final two games. You could QB Pittsburgh next week and still win by 2 TDs against a done Oakland team heading east (again)to play in 20-degree temps.
10-6 is making the playoffs this year in AFC (especially considering heads up wins vs. Denver & San Diego).
Once in, anything is possible. Remember the Cards of ’09 and the Steelers of a few years ago for most recent examples.
Omnes Omnibus
@DBrown: Don’t watch football then.
John Cole
Is the edit function working for you all?
Omnes Omnibus
@John Cole: I don’t have one.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@John Cole:
No.
XP and Firefox.
asiangrrlMN
@John Cole: Yes! Google Chrome, bitchez!
P.S. It has always worked on Google Chrome.
P.P.S. Sucks to be a Steelers fan right now.
Punchy
No Worthlessberger, no Chuck Batch…..Dixon as QB? You in sum trubble.
debit
Had the edit option last thread. Firefox 3.5.3 on my Macbook. And it’s still here. Woot!
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: I have a bad feeling about the Vikes today.
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: Why? Why bad feeling? Why why why?
And just because I can, I’m editing. Bitchez.
NobodySpecial
Us Lions fans send you our deepest sympathies. Not.
jwb
@John Cole: No edit on Firefox 3.5.5 for Mac.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Not sure why I have the bad feeling, just do. Maybe I’m just transferring my irritation over the game not being carried here.
debit
@jwb: What kind of bad feeling?
ETA: I see, just a general bad feeling. I get that all the time. Chips, dip and beer usually make it go away.
Xopher
The Steelers…they’re some kind of sports team, right?
Hi Anne Laurie! This one really IS me.
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: Where is ‘here’?
asiangrrlMN
@debit: Hey, maybe we Vikes’ fans can dominate the thread again!
debit
@asiangrrlMN: Yes! But can we do it for 6 hours? Man what shall I watch? Colts & Texans or Redskins & Eagles?
gwangung
@asiangrrlMN: Not gonna get any Seahack fans contesting that.
(and editing because I can. Safari 4.0.4)
Zach
According to the Baltimore Sun’s latest update, Suggs is definitely out, Reed is likely out and hasn’t practiced all week, and Ray Lewis will play but will be slowed down by injury. Not sure how good Ngata will be.
Apparently Dixon didn’t get all that much practice time; if he had, the Steelers could’ve put together a run package that would’ve been very effective against a decimated Ravens D. That’d lead to 1 on 1 pass defense, and any unexperienced QB could beat the Ravens secondary right now w/ the Steelers receivers.
Unless it turns out that Dixon can’t hold onto the ball when he’s sacked or Baltimore rediscovers the secret to scoring a touchdown, I think Pittsburgh wins. You’re forgetting that Baltimore couldn’t even get an offensive touchdown against the Cleveland Browns, who were subsequently thrashed by the Detroit Lions.
JK
@asiangrrlMN:
Hi,
How are you feeling today?
debit
Eagles start off with an onside kick why?
Steeplejack
@John Cole:
No. XP and Opera 10.10.
smiley
@John Cole: I haven’t seen the edit function in what seems like months (PC, XP, Firefox 3.5.5).
Steeplejack
@debit:
Like I have a choice. It’s Redskins-Eagles or nothing. Ugh.
. . . Holy shnikeys! Redskins just scored a touchdown in the first two minutes.
NobodySpecial
No, Firefox 3.5 and Windows Vista 64bit, by the by.
Mike
If the Bengals could beat the Steelers (twice), and the Raiders could beat the Bengals, that makes the Steelers worse than the Raiders, right?
Andy K
@debit:
Because the Redskins’ offense isn’t very good and Philly’s at home?
arguingwithsignposts
I am totally bummed on the NFL restricting online streaming access to people who don’t live in the US. As a US citizen without a TV, but with Internet access, I’m screwed because of their dickish behavior.
FU NFL.
donovong
Feeling bad about the Stillers? Tough shit, dude. Try being a Braves fan. Since about 1973.
No edit funkshun.
Okay, i haz edit, but only after I hit refresh. Weerd.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Austin, TX.
Andy K
@Zach:
Didn’t Cleveland score 30+ against the Lions only to lose by a single point? That’s not the way I’d define “thrash”.
Face
@debit: I about shat myself when I saw that. Ried’s a friggin ijit.
debit
Even if I would ever drink domestic beer of my own free will, I would boycott whichever brand they do that mock infomercial for. Unfunny, annoying and pointless because I can’t remember the brand 60 seconds after it’s over.
jwb
@debit: No, I don’t get these feelings all the time, and the Vikes being the Vikes are overdue for a bad game.
shoutingattherain
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
GO SEAHAWKS!
debit
@jwb: You shush. If it’s gonna happen, it will be on the Monday night game, when our shame will be witnessed nationwide.
JenJen
This is gonna be a rough game for your Steelers, Cole. And I only break my “Boooo, Steelers” rule twice a year… when they play the abhorrent Ravens.
So I’m actually pulling for you! (Although I do cop to dropping Mendenhall out of my lineup and sliding Turner back in, since the ankle doesn’t seem to be that bad.)
ETA: I’m using Windows XP, and Chrome 3.0.195.33, and I have the edit. Hooray!
licensed to kill time
@John Cole: Yes! Edit AND delete, I was so happy when I saw that this morning! Firefox 3.5.5 and XP.
P.S. Hope your Stillers win. I know zippo about foozball.
asiangrrlMN
@debit: Colts/Texans! We can go for days! We’re Minnesotans.
@JK: Hi, JK. Shitty. Good thing I have a doc’s appt. tomorrow. How are you?
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: Ah, the cool part of Texas.
@debit: You got that one right.
Tokyokie
@debit
I frequently wish I drank so that I could boycott American-brewed industrial beers, just because their ads are so offensive.
Nethead Jay
For me, the big game is Saints – Patriots tomorrow. Geaux Saints!!!
But tonight I hope that the Steelers pull together and win despite the circumstances, that the Vikings pound the Bears into the ground, and especially that the Texans end the Colts’ undefeated run. Looking good so far on the last one, they’re up 14-0 and Matt Schaub looks like a man on a mission.
JK
@asiangrrlMN:
I’m ok, I figured you had to be feeling a little better if you’re here posting.
If you skipped CBS Sunday Morning, you missed a nice profile of Tom Petty and a good cover story on Second City. If you skipped the Sunday shows, you didn’t miss a damn thing because as Danny Schechter says when it comes to the MSM “the more you watch, the less you know.”
asiangrrlMN
@Tokyokie: This is the perfect response. I so agree with you, both on the drinking beer part and the boycotting American beers for their offensive, stupid ads.
Andy K
@asiangrrlMN:
The problem there being that you’ve handed clock management responsibilities to Brad Childress. I’m going to be ecstatic when his lack of skill in that area costs the Queens in the post-season.
Nethead Jay
Also, no edit function, Firefox on XP.
nalbar
How and the world can anyone say it sucks to be a Steelers fan right now? They are, without a doubt, the best run team in the NFL. They get rid of players at the perfect time, get the right players in the right places every year. They never have egos driving their teams into the ground. A down year is 9-7 or 10-6. Their owner and general manager ‘get it’.
They are a ‘Professional Football Team’ in the truest sense of the word. From the owner all the way down. Even if they went 6-10 they would be better than the Cowboys or the Redskins or the Chargers going 11-5 the same year. Why? Because you would know they would fix the issue, instead of smashing the team apart to appease egos. Their fans can say ‘next year’ and it’s TRUE. There is always a ‘next year’, because they know how to win over the long haul.
nalbar
asiangrrlMN
@JK: Nope. I took off last night for personal reasons, not sick reasons. I don’t watch any of the Sunday morning talkies–ever. Makes me too mad.
Andy K, I do not doubt that the Vikes will trip themselves up in the post-season. Since I have mixed feelings about the team, I’m not really bothered either way. Yet.
Comrade Kevin
Edit function?
Yes, edit function, Safari 4.0.3 on the Mac
debit
@Andy K: I’ve watched the Vikings fall apart post season for the last 20 years. You think I’ll cry if they do it again? Hah!
ETA: That was a pretty interception for Houston.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Is it just Favre that bothers you or are there other factors? I’m still really having a hard time dealing with Favre as QB.
Edit to add: Edit function with Safari 4.0.4.
asiangrrlMN
@debit: Agreed. And, agreed. Kinda want a team to win out so we can stop hearing about the ’72 Dolphins. Would prefer it to be the Saints.
smiley
testing
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Definitely would rather it be the Saints than the Colts. I still won’t forgive the Colts for leaving Baltimore.
Zach
@Andy K: Their defense was thrashed. Detroit happens to have the other worst defense in the league so it was a mutual thrashing. The halftime highlight reel looked like NFL Blitz.
slag
Re-watching West Wing Season 1 DVDs. Quote that most accurately reflects the Obama Admin so far:
Also, love the episodes with Edward James Olmos.
MikeJ
Worked for me on firefox earlier today. Right now too.
Terri
OT, but 4 cops shot and killed in an ambush in a coffee shop near Seattle.
The world has lost it’s fucking mind.
smiley
testing safari
Edit (and delete) works with Safari but not IE or Firefox.
debit
@asiangrrlMN: Ditto on that.
What is wrong with the Colts today? Not that I’m complaining…
slag
No edit button for Camino on Mac.
Persia
@asiangrrlMN: Agreed.
Face
No one wants to play any defense in this Skins/Igglez game.
Andy K
@debit:
I don’t know if you’ll shed any tears, but I think that by the time they do blow it- whether by being pounded by a wild card team at home in the Divisional Round or blowing a double-digit lead in New Orleans or in the Super Bowl- you will feel absolutely gobsmacked.
Keep this handy.
MikeJ
@Terri: Just south of Tacoma, but fairly close to Seattle. 30 miles or so.
PI’s not even saying which agency they’re with.
Face
@Terri: NW area a hotbed for hotheads, although more Idaho than Seattle.
Yowsers. Cant wait for Limbaugh to tell me it’s all Libtards’ fault, somehow.
Nethead Jay
@asiangrrlMN:
Very much agree ;)
Martin
Just testing this rumored edit function.
Edit: Well, check this shit out. Works in OmniWeb (Webkit browser). Looks good John, congrats.
debit
@Andy K: “The Vikings played the Washington Redskins in the NFC Championship Game on January 17, 1988, at RFK Stadium. Trailing 17–10, the Vikings drove to the Redskins’ six yard line with a little over a minute left in the game but failed to get the ball into the end zone. Darren Nelson dropped a pass from Wade Wilson at the goal line to officially end the Vikings’ hopes of a Super Bowl.” (From Wikipedia)
That was the last time I have felt anything other mild annoyance regarding a Vikings loss. That one gutted me for all of eternity.
jeffreyw
yay! chatzy is back up!
jeffreyw
And Boo! No edit for me..stop that lookin smug, y’all with yer fancy edits and stuff.
Andy K
@debit:
Not old enough to recall all of those big Vikes’ postseason losses from January of 1970 through January of 1977, huh?
JK
@asiangrrlMN: @jwb:
There’s a probably a 99.999999% chance that this won’t happen, but how fucking cool would it be to see the Indiannapolis Colts and the New Orleans Saints both go undefeated and then play each other in the Super Bowl? There would be some amazing hype for the 2 weeks following the Conference Championship games.
I can’t stand the insufferable smugness of those 1972 Miami Dolphins, especially Mercury Morris, so I want some team, any team to break that goddamn record one of these years.
debit
@Andy K: I was too little to watch then, but my dad still winces at the very mention.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@slag:
Obama’s approval rating is in the low 50’s, which is remarkable for an administration that has waded into the shitpile we hired him to deal with, at this point. He is on the verge of getting the first comprehensive health bill ever passed in this country, wrestling with two completely fucked up foreign occupation/war scenarios, tightrope walking through an economic trainwreck, and doing it all in the middle of the most divisive and contentious political climate in any of our memories. Playing to a feckless and inane press, and to a demanding public that wants progressive services and low taxes at the same time.
Seems to me the guy doing great, and statements like yours just wither into gratuitous WATB blog bullshit.
But hey, I’m just a creature who walks on all fours who has to type with a hoof.
asiangrrlMN
@Andy K: Hon, I lived through the 15-1 season, only to have Gary Anderson blow it on a field goal to the Falcons–who then blew it when Robinson (I believe that was his name) hooked up with hookers the night before the Super Bowl. In addition, I have lived through the Twins winning the division on the last day three times in the last four years, only to be swept in the first round of the play-offs two of those three years–by the Yankees. NOTHING in sports will leave me gobsmacked any more.
Terri
@ Face
Nah, clearly Obama’s
asiangrrlMN
@JK: That would be amazing. And then, the game would suck for one reason or another.
I forgot I haz edit! Wheeee!
debit
Oh that was such a pretty catch. Man, look at Houston go.
ETA: I am making a pork loin roast in the French tradition, with roasted Yukon Golds with rosemary butter and a some caramelized pearl onions. I dare say my house smells delicious.
You Don't Say
Dixon may surprise. Have faith!
FYI: I do not have edit button.
IndyLib
I thought I was unfond of Kyle Orton, but I found that I was even more unfond of Phil Simms kid, who is a crappy backup quarterback.
This post is to see if I have edit. I haven’t had it for so long on Firefox I’m not sure I’ll recognize it.
Fern
Testing
And editing because I can!
Google Chrome on Vista.
IndyLib
Well, unless it is invisible, I still have no edit on Firefox 3.5.5 on my Mac.
me
Can I edit? Let’s see.
asiangrrlMN
@debit: Pictures!
@Fern: Damn right. Google Chrome, bitchez!
slag
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
Yeah. Well. Life’s tough. Obama’s got a job to do, and he needs to deliver. Stat. And if recognizing that fundamental reality makes someone a WATB but spending a whole paragraph making excuses doesn’t, then so be it. Life’s tough.
debit
Ah hah hah hah!!! Oh Peyton, that was very bad pass.
arguingwithsignposts
@slag:
Good thing we’ve got that unitary executive, right? /snark
Nethead Jay
@debit: That’s the worst I’ve seen from P. Manning in quite a while. Wonder if he’ rattled? Houston is looking good now.
jeffreyw
Twice baked pie.
Lisa K.
@asiangrrlMN:
Yeah, only two Super Bowl wins in the past five years. That is a major drag, man.
Raiders and Chiefs fans would love to tell you what suckdom is really like.
Signed,
A Patriots Fan
jeffreyw
@debit: Ditto on the pics, after all, Gourmet magazine is defunct.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
That’s your response? A long-winded “oh yeah?”
I’ll just stand on what I wrote at 78, then.
You wouldn’t know a “fundamental reality” if you stuck your dick in it, dude.
Obama’s “delivery” is due in early November 2012. Check back then, and let’s see what happens. And the “job he has to do” is not to make whiny little crybabies happy every day while he gets there.
Fucking idiot.
Lisa K.
@John Cole:
No, I have no edit function visible.
Dave C
Since this is an open thread, WTF is up with this:
Dave C
Everything except the first line in my previous post was meant to be in block quotes. And, no, I still don’t have an edit function.
Andy K
@asiangrrlMN:
You probably shouldn’t bring the recent Twins’ teams into the conversation- the AL Central has been the back door into the post-season for most of the decade. In the old two division/league arrangement, the Twins wouldn’t have made the playoffs. The pervasive attitude should have been “Just happy to be here. Success will be a bonus.”
But I know your pain following the loss to the Falcons. As a Packers fan, I felt it after the playoff loss to the Niners in ’99 (two weeks before Anderson’s miss), and that was a year removed from the SB loss to the Broncos, and only two removed from winning the SB.
But the NFL is a roller coaster ride of emotions, and it only fully satisfies the fans of one team a year. If you aren’t able to appreciate the lows along with the highs, why ride?
burnspbesq
@asiangrrlMN:
Not even the Gophers winning in something other than hockey?
slag
@arguingwithsignposts: Yeah. Keep making excuses. Fun times!
I, for one, am highly sympathetic with the plight of this administration. But I’m also not blind. No amount of placing blame on the south or on the press or on Congress is going to help at this stage. Maybe you’ve heard of a little something called a narrative. Well, it’s been in the works for a while now (the Peace Prize was when it really started to roll), and now it’s finally becoming worrisome. Whether or not it’s fair is totally beside the point.
Cat Lady
That’s what the cool kids call eating donuts now?
Cat Lady
@Cat Lady:
Mac/Firefox 3.5.5 no can haz edit. I haz a sad.
slag
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
You need to re-check your calendar, sparky. Try 2010.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Narrative? I’ve heard of such a thing. Maybe if I discover a way to string together the posts you make and find a coherent strand of thought in them ……
You sound like Brick Oven Bill, but without the guile.
Andy K
Running Vista and Firefox 3.5, and I’ve got the edit function.
debit
Pictures if my iphone can do a decent job, which I rather doubt. Sadly, it’s my only option ATM.
Why are the Texans doing what Minnesota usually does in the third quarter? Stop falling apart right now!
ARG! Didn’t I say to stop falling apart?!
Comrade Kevin
@Cat Lady: My, that comment was tasteless.
JK
Fuck Maureen Dowd
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/opinion/22dowd.html?_r=2
slag
@AngusTheGodOfMeat: Then I’ll use small words so you can understand: Obama approval down. Snowball effect likely. Bad for America.
licensed to kill time
@Comrade Kevin: It sure was. But dang, I sort of snickered. I’m going to hell.
peach flavored shampoo
This wouldn’t have happened if cops were allowed to carry guns to defend themselves. Wait……
gwangung
@slag: I’ll use smaller words. Daily news cycle. Don’t get caught up in.
flukebucket
@slag: Approval ratings will go up and down. No need to dwell on them. When he gets into the high teens or low twenties and stays there for months maybe it will be time to worry. He is going to be the President until at least 2012. I am not too worry about what happens in 2010. I cannot imagine people flocking to Republicans for answers.
arguingwithsignposts
@slag:
Um, Obama’s job approval is ‘hovering,’ not down. It’s been hovering since August, dipshit.
asiangrrlMN
@Lisa K.: Um, I am a Vikings fan. You know, the Vikes who haven’t won a freaking Super Bowl despite making it four times? That team? I was snarking at Cole.
@jeffreyw: My god. That looks so fucking good.
@burnspbesq: This is true. That would make me gobsmacked.
Andy K., yeah, whatever. Twins have two World Championships. I’ll take that.
asiangrrlMN
@flukebucket: In addition, it’s not Obama’s job to pump up his ratings. Indeed, with our dipshit media, I doubt there is much he could do that would help the country AND please the dipshit media.
People are stupid and are going to believe what they want to believe. Nothing Obama can do about that.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@slag:
Small words? Is that like a really tiny typeface?
Oh well. There’s no snowball effect. Your argument = fail.
You remind me of George W. Bush. “Being presnint is haaaaaaard! Waah!”
Only with you it’s “Being a citizen is haaaaaaard, and skeery too! I want more deliveries of puppies!”
Bleah.
gwangung
Approval ratings are the quintessential daily news cycle. IGNORE.
debit
And Colts come storming back.
@asiangrrlMN: I’m trying to not think of politics today, but I have to agree with this. The dipshit media is going to keep trying to sell their narrative until people stop buying it. And if the people keep buying it, I guess it makes them dipshits too.
slag
@flukebucket: I totally get that thinking. And I’m not quite pessimistic enough to think that sane people will be running to Republicans for answers. But a depressed Democratic base is a huge concern to me. We don’t need more Dick Morris’ lurking around the WH. Not that I necessarily think Obama’s that stupid. But I don’t have much faith in our Congress to keep things moving in a positive direction. Especially if they start to panic, which is not exactly unheard of.
gwangung
@slag: Yeah, but approval ratings are the quintessential daily news cycle. Ignore those. Pay attention to longer range things. And long range is 2012.
asiangrrlMN
@debit: Did you doubt they would?
Yeah, I’ve pretty much had it up to here with politics.
MOAR footballz!
chrome agnomen
i can haz edit?
yes?
YES!
slag
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
To quote a famous philosopher: Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
charles johnson
Hear Hear!
Violet
@JK:
Gah. No kidding. From her column, winning observations such as:
So I guess leaving without signing books for her fans who waited for hours in the cold, and even had the required wristbands, is “nurturing”? Or maybe her quitting the 5K before the end so she wouldn’t have to deal with all those pesky fans is the “nurturing” of which Maureen Dowd speaks.
Maureen Dowd is an idiot, an embarrassment, and a very poor excuse for a columnist at a major newspaper.
JenJen
@slag: @flukebucket: Actually, when he gets into the low-to-mid 40’s, it’s time to worry, if electoral history is any indication. I think he’s fine right now, but I’m with slag, in that the narrative is real, and the narrative is growing stronger, even though I don’t personally believe it has anything to do with Obama’s drop in approval.
It’s the economy, and he could be a bare-breasted Sarah Palin on a Unicorn* and he’d still have falling approval among the mushy center.
*I apologize in advance for the imagery
burnspbesq
@slag:
Aww, just give it a fuckin’ rest, willya?
It’s Sunday, and it’s football season. On Sundays in football season, football provides more than enough misery.
Save your whingeing for tomorrow. K?
Pigs & Spiders
I’m confused. Isn’t the Steeler’s game at 8:20pm? We have one open thread for five more hours of this shit?
Edit button or no edit button, talk about living in squalor.
Nethead Jay
OY oy oy Matt Stover, that was not a field goal you could afford to miss.
Fern
@asiangrrlMN:
We even haz footballz here in Canada today – Grey Cup game, Montreal and Saskatchewan in Calgary.
burnspbesq
Fuck Maureen Dowd?
Doesn’t the Constitution say something about cruel and unusual punishment?
JenJen
In other news, please tighten up and tough it out, Bengals and Colts. Jeeeeeeezus you’re giving me the palpitations today.
burnspbesq
@Fern:
You have one football game today, and then no more until July?
You cannot begin to imagine how jealous I am.
burnspbesq
Time to fire up the DVR and watch some real football. Arsenal – Chelsea.
Enjoy the rest of your afternoon, gridiron fans.
Fern
@burnspbesq: That is true. Whole thing is really easy to ignore – which works out just fine for me.
Ed in NJ
@burnspbesq:
+1000
slag, please stfu and stop shitting on the thread. We get it, you are all butthurt because Obama hasn’t presented you with your pony yet.
slag
@JenJen:
In spite of the imagery, I find this point hard to disagree with. But points can be earned with a more populist message. At least with the Dem base, which is really our best hope for minimizing the damage in the midterms. That and more movement on social issues and on civil liberties and…
Fern
@slag: Yawn.
slag
@Ed in NJ: Fair enough.
JenJen
Wooohoooo Colts!!
You Don't Say
@skippy: Why is Atrios popular?
gwangung
Irritated that posting ability is intermittent. But the “snowball” is quintessential daily news cycle. Focus on the long term.
debit
Grump. Stupid Houston.
charles johnson
Honestly, though, I’ve pretty much given up on politics. I live in a conservative county, and these people would literally vote in a republican arsonist child molester if he promised to cut property taxes by 5%. The country’s falling apart, the soon-to-be-elderly baby boomers, who if history is any guide, will vote in record numbers, are all programmed with that “Gummint is always bad free market always good.” mentality which is wrecking our infrastructure and social net. Ecologists say we’re witnessing and initiating a period of species collapse and environmental degradation and I turn on the tv and see ACORN! White House party crashers! I get an email from an otherwise intelligent friend along the lines of “ZOMG these two out of context words in one of a thousand emails from ten years ago totally invalidates all so-called climate science EVAR!!111” And he’s a relatively smart guy. Most people in the US are more like my Alabama relatives who, this past thanksgiving, told me that for every white Murkin paying into Social Security, there are 10 illegal aliens drawing checks from it. They’re too dumb to even talk to, much less successfully reason with.
In short, and I say this not out of hostility or depression, but rather a casual acceptance, I don’t think our species has the ability to not doom itself. Maybe that’s the solution to the Fermi Paradox–once a species gets enough technology to make an impact, they quickly bone themselves into oblivion. We’re naked, greedy monkeys who’ve now figured out how to build nuclear bombs and set mountain-fulls of carbon on fire, and we are not long for this Earth.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Obama’s approval rating will fall, and rise, on employment figures.
Meanwhile progressive policy continues to make inroads, by fits and starts, but nothing is going to happen “stat.” First, or A, America is not a big hospital ward. And B, or Two, employment is a lagging indicator, and as we predicted last year, unemployment will probably not peak until well into the first half of 2010.
Between the two possible reactions, “EEK!” versus “Keep our eyes on the ball,” I prefer the latter. “EEK!” has just never worked that well for me.
JK
@Violet:
I know it’s not newsworthy to point out something stupid by Maureen Dowd, but in this column she borrowed that goddamn Cheney line about dithering. That’s a new low for Maurren as far as I’m concerned.
@burnspbesq:
Tell that to Charlie Rose who almost had an orgasm when he interviewed Dowd for her stupid book Are Men Necessary?
JK
@JenJen:
If she could ever pull that off, I’d want to have Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck hooked up to EKG monitors to see which one would pass out first.
asiangrrlMN
@Fern: Canadian football?
Damn, this Colts/Texans game is getting brutal.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Yes, but we also have Celeste Aida, and Art Tatum.
So, there you go.
cokane
go purple birds! if pitt goes down cincy should have basically a 3 game lead on the division.
licensed to kill time
@charles johnson:
Please don’t tar all us baby boomers with that brush. A lot of us are still DFH’s and proud of it.
I get your sense of despair, however. Some days I share it – well, a lot of days actually.
demkat620
Andy Reid suxx azz!
That is all.
asiangrrlMN
@slag: This actually makes some sense, but I disagree in that our side is much more picky about what they will and won’t support. I would love Obama to move to the left, but I don’t think he can move far enough to satisfy the lefties. Batshitcrazynutters are unified in their hatred of him. Supporters are all over the map as to what they think Obama needs to do. It’s just easier to unite around hate than around a common good.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Okay, I forgot this.
Celeste Aida.
Nethead Jay
I Hate the fucking Colts. Sorry JenJen
JK
Does Bill Belichick remind anyone of Richie Aprile from The Sopranos in terms of his moody, miserable fucker demeanor?
Maude
@AngusTheGodOfMeat: It’s amazing that he has as high a rating as he does. Look at what shape things are in.
I’m so sick of the whingeing and harping on every little thing.
Wait until Wednesday.
Gonna test edit on K-Meleon, xp
dan robinson
Oh, now I get it. It is about being a fan. Can you display the same kind of guts for your local girl’s soccer team? Or does it work only for steroid pumped men who make millions of dollars a year playing for pasty white men making hundreds of millions a year while getting a billion dollars in subsidies from local and state governments?
Like they said when I was a soldier, I got your fandom hanging.
Maude
@Maude: Well, no edit.
smiley
Over at CNN/SI as I was looking at scores and I noticed that their game-time weather conditions for tomorrow’s Saints/Pats game was mostly cloudy/72 degrees. I guess they think that white ceiling in the Superdome is cloud cover.
Morbo
We’re going to need another thread…
Who the hell is Buckley? Let McCoy score a damn touchdown; screw you, Andy Reid!
dan robinson
Should be:
Oh, now I get it. It is about being a fan. Can you display the same kind of guts for your local girl’s soccer team? Or does it work only for steroid pumped men who make millions of dollars a year playing for pasty white men making hundreds of millions a year while getting a billion dollars in subsidies from local and state governments?
Like they said when I was a soldier, I got your fandom hanging.
Ed Drone
What is this “edit function” of which you speak?
Ed
SiubhanDuinne
O/T but I have had a mildly interesting coincidence today. In last night’s open thread the subject of the Spanish Civil War came up for a while. Today I watched a couple of old movies I had never seen: The End of the Affair, and Dancing at Lughnasa. In EotA, early on, there was a reference to drinking “bad sherry from South Africa” because the SCW had made it impossible to obtain the good stuff. Then in DaL, a secondary character heads off to Spain to fight against Franco. Now I realise both films (like last night’s Casablanca) are set in the ’30s and ’40s, so maybe it’s not a huge stretch. But none of the films was *about* the SCW — the references were all in passing — and I was just struck by the way it came up for me in three successive films.
/ woo-woo spooky synchronicity
Lisa K.
@Nethead Jay:
Word. And I am not the least bit sorry about it. Fuck Commercial Boy.
asiangrrlMN
@SiubhanDuinne: I love shit like that. No reason. I just do.
charles johnson
“Please don’t tar all us baby boomers with that brush. A lot of us are still DFH’s and proud of it.”
You’re right, I wrote imprecisely, of course, as we all do. I should have said “who are disproportionally programmed…”
Reagan’s popularity in the 80’s created a large bolus of voters who still share that ideology.
demkat620
@Morbo: What did I just say?
I hate this shit. The Eagles are going nowhere. They know it, the fans know it, the sports reporters know it.
But, they will win just enough games to get a shitty draft pick and give Andy Reid another five year extension.
ARRRRGH!
Thadeus Horne
@burnspbesq: Yeah….and even then there’s the Pioneers…always the Pioneers
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@dan robinson:
Uh, never mind. I don’t want to talk to you. You’re crazy.
Martin
@asiangrrlMN:
Unfortunately, folks like at GOS think that Obama was elected supreme leader of Congress as well. They’ve unknowningly bought into the GOP meme that everything is Obama’s fault. If the GOP filibusters everything, that too will be Obama’s fault.
Never underestimate the stupid GOP to properly take advantage of a stupid electorate.
gwangung
Argh. Can’t post!
JenJen
@Nethead Jay: @Lisa K.: Sorry. I should have mentioned that my temporary affection for the Colts had everything to do with my fantasy football team playing Matt Schaub, and Reggie Wayne being one of the stars of my team, and yet Schaub still did a lot of damage. Booo, The Schaub. Why is fantasy football so gut-wrenching at times?
JK
@dan robinson:
Try telling that to a New York Yankees fan. Prior to them beating the Philadelphia Phillies, all I heard from these bozos was pissing and moaning about not having won a World Series title since way the hell back in 2000. Are there any sports fans on Earth who are more spoiled rotten than these miserable brats who root for the Yankees?
charles johnson
“I get your sense of despair, however. Some days I share it – well, a lot of days actually.”
I didn’t have quite as much despair until rather recently, with reports that global temps could go up by 10 degrees F in the next century, some ecologists and biologists telling me their colleagues expected not just massive extinction, but probably a large human die-off, and the aforementioned inability of many people to even accept the possibilities of such things.
Nethead Jay
@Lisa K.: Okay, but I hope you’ll be cursing my team and me tomorrow. Again geaux Saints ;)
licensed to kill time
@charles johnson:
I hated LBJ for the escalation of the Vietnam war, Nixon because he was a slimy crook, Ford/Carter – meh , but Reagan was the first guy that made me say “If that guy gets elected, I am leaving the country”. And did, for a large part of his term(s).
Guess who was the second guy? ;-)
(I understand your point. He was poisonous to the body politic).
geg6
I have no doubt my beloved Stillers are gonna suck balls tonight. But to make up for it, my John is making steaks, a wonderful salad with bleu cheese (my fave!), garlic mashed potatoes, shrimp appetizer, and raspberry cheesecake for dessert. With a nice big bottle of syrah that I picked up on sale, I expect to be +4 or 5 by the time our humiliation on national teevee is complete.
Lisa K.
@Nethead Jay:
The Saints are my second favorite team, from having lived a little while in the Big Easy.
But tomorrow, I want them ripped to shreds. from limb to limb. I want Drew Brees in bloody pieces across the Superdome floor.
Lisa K.
@JenJen:
I know. It seems like a sucker punch to your humanness some days.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@JK:
Yankees fans give all fans a bad name, for sure.
But professional sports is all about the fandom.
When it comes to amateur sports, I spent a lot of time at Pop Warner games and Little League games for the kids and the grandkids. My recollection was that, among the adults, the buzz was mostly about the kids. Will my kid get to play? Will he have fun? I hope he doesn’t get hurt. Ow, that was a helluva hit he took. That sort of thing. Winning and losing the games wasn’t really the big deal in the leagues I was circulating in, except for a few hothead parents here and there. And they were the exception, not the rule.
No way to compare amateur sports spectatorship with professional sports fandom. Apples and mangoes. Amateur sports is human interest, while professional sports is some kind of mass hypnosis thing. How else to believe in the Immaculate Deception, for example? Heh.
Lisa K.
@JK:
Let me tell you, if the Colts even sniff the SB, then 2009 is going down as the worst sports season on record for me. First the Lakers, then the Yankees, then…ugh. I can’t even think about it.
JenJen
Wasn’t the most impressive victory, but the Bengals got it done! A win is a win is a win, and that’s a CLEAN SWEEP in the AFC North. Whew. Who Dey?!
Cat Lady
@Comrade Kevin:
Too soon?
Nethead Jay
@Lisa K.: Then we understand each other :D
debit
Here we go, Vikes!
My roast turned out perfect. No pics that weren’t gray and grainy, sadly.
debit +2 glasses of an okay Sauvignon Blanc
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Pat Paulsen?
JD Rhoades
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
Fan 1: What about last season?
Fan 2: What about it?
Fan 1: They were rubbish. They were fucking rubbish.
Fan 2: They weren’t that bad.
Fan 1: They were fucking rubbish last year. And they were fucking rubbish the year before. And I don’t care if they are top of the League, they’ll be fucking rubbish this year, too. And next year. And the year after that. I’m not joking.
Fan 2: I don’t know why you come, Frank. Honest I don’t.
Fan 1: Well, you live in hope, don’t you?
-Fever Pitch (the original, and far superior, British version)
debit
Oh crap. Fumble. Crap.
AP, honey, how can I have your babies if you don’t hang on to the ball?
JenJen
@Lisa K.: And for extra-humiliation, I started Jay Cutler. I had no choice. But you never know… any given Sunday, right?
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@JD Rhoades:
Been there. Sigh.
asiangrrlMN
@geg6: Nice! Pictures.
@debit: jwb is to blame if the Vikes lose.
licensed to kill time
@AngusTheGodOfMeat: Heh heh heh….umm, nope. Too deadpan to get that worked up about.
JK
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
Lisa K
Thanks for your comments. I’m glad to see that there are still some Yankee haters out there. One of the most disgusting things I observed after the Yankees beat the Phillies in the deciding game were congratulatory messages to Yankee fans on the NY Yankees Message Board posted by fans of other teams. I couldn’t fucking believe these assholes were congratulating the most arrogant, obnoxious, classless sports fans in America. I mean what unbelievable obstacles did the Yankees have to overcome after signing the top 3 free agents during the off season?
JenJen
Deep Thought: Cole is going to need a Steelers Open Thread #2 eventually, because we have like four hours to go, here.
burnspbesq
I fucking hate Chelsea.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@licensed to kill time:
I know, but a guy who can say things like this, you gotta wonder if he could catch on:
“People are hungry out there. Okay, why don’t they eat cotton? We have plenty of cotton.”
debit
@asiangrrlMN: Deal.
Come on, Vikes. You’re better than this.
Pigs & Spiders
@JenJen: Yeah, the SS Balloon Juice can’t take this kind of abuse for that amount of time.
JK
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
Cool photo by the way. It makes me long for a big, thick porterhouse steak right now.
licensed to kill time
@AngusTheGodOfMeat:
Or this:
Wait – maybe that wouldn’t fly…
JK
@asiangrrlMN:
The way the Vikings are playing this season, they may make you forget all about those Twins. Lucky you.
freelancer
Ahhh…laundry day.
Ken
John, take it from me, a Browns fan; you’ve got no beef.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
@licensed to kill time:
That one made me spit my pasta salad.
LOL.
Andy K
@dan robinson:
You mean the local girls soccer team whose unis, coaches, transportation and pitch are subsidized by taxes? Federal, state and local taxes? And if I displayed any sort of guts supporting the Springfield High tetherball team, would anyone outside of Springfield care to discuss, let alone pay attention?
Do we display any guts as fans of the Springfield High debate and forensics teams? Probably not. But when those kids grow up, they become lawyers, elected officials and bureaucrats, and we subsidize what they do and hope that they’ll make us happy by performing their duties to the best of their abilities. Some days they piss us off and we let the world know about it.
The Grand Panjandrum
As a Yankees fan I’m never quite sure what I enjoy most, the win, or the apoplexy of the haters.
UPDATE: I haz edit! Safari 4.0.4
jwb
@debit: I’m stuck following the Vikes on gameview.
asiangrrlMN
@JK: Yes, well, I do not like Brett Favre, so my delight is mingled with pain.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: I blame it on Favre.
JK
@freelancer:
Freelancer,
What’s the url for the group blog you also post to? I just checked the blogroll on forgetthenoise and didn’t find it listed there.
arguingwithsignposts
All I know is AP is my feature back on fantasy team, so I hope he gets the TD carry.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Oh well, nobody took my glazed alfalfa offering on the The Immaculate Deception.
Dang it. Okay, off to graze the north forty for a while. Keep the flies off your butt, as we say.
JK
@asiangrrlMN:
I don’t like Favre either and was hoping he’d be carried off the field at some point this season. The prima donna act that he goes thru at the end of each season debating whether or not he’ll return is so fucking tired, I just want to see him pulverized so that he’ll stop jerking everyone’s chain.
Andy K
@arguingwithsignposts:
I’ve got Shiancoe and Berrian going, with James Harrison and Dawan Landry yet to come (IDP league). Good week so far, thanks in no small part to A-Rodge’s and Double D’s production in Motown.
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: That will work for me.
Favre to Shiancoe 7-0 Vikes.
licensed to kill time
Has John Cole gone into a pre-Stiller coma? We are +4 on the hours here…this thread is gonna get drunk.
peach flavored shampoo
@arguingwithsignposts: No no no no no nononononononoooooooo. NO AP all day. Same for Rice. Need double sprained ankles or PMS or something.
I’ll take a Harvin touch. Go Bears!
debit
@licensed to kill time: I picture him hugging Lily and rocking back and forth, murmuring into her neck, “It’s gonna be okay, I swear, it’s gonna be okay.”
Andy K
@asiangrrlMN:
FIFY, though I really wanted you to be right.
licensed to kill time
@debit:
I’m thinking the lamp going on and off, on and off from Fatal Attraction.
debit
Pssst, Defense. You gotta stop the offense. That’s your job. Thanks for your attention.
xoxoxo
debit
Punchy
Matt Forte needs to get his tall ass in gear and gimmie 20+ fantasy points.
Gunna be a lotta points scored in this Chefs/Boltz game.
jwb
@debit: Well, so much for defense on that possession.
asiangrrlMN
@Andy K: Damn it. You are right, of course.
@debit: Damn it. 7-7.
mcd410x
@burnspbesq:
Yes, but unfortunately Arsenal are just soft. And have been. Sagna twice fails to close down Cashley and they score two goals.
licensed to kill time
LOL. Now we get a new thread, and there are SIX links/articles to read before a nuanced comment is possible. Be careful what you wish for!
(Not that I’d prolly be making a nuanced comment anyway)
Morbo
@Andy K: Bad memories, I’m facing those two this week and a Lions partisan. I need some production out of Boldin and Sims-walker right now… goos eggs so far. Flex league, looks like I should’ve put in Fred Jackson for one of them.
debit
@licensed to kill time: You know we’re gonna get a time out if we keep picking on him during this, his hour of pain.
asiangrrlMN
Woot-woot! Chester Taylor, bitchez! 14-7, Vikes.
Edit: Fumble recovery, Vikes!
debit
Yes!! 14-7.
YES!!! Fumble on the 30!!
Oh pooh on you and your challenge.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN, @debit: Looks like the defenses decided not to show up for the second quarter.
Andy K
@Morbo:
I feel for ya. I root for the D in the other three pro sports, but the Yooper genes from dad’s side of the family make me a Packers fan. I hope, for sanity’s sake, that you live inside the blackout zone. My friends here in GR don’t have that luck.
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: They just showed up fashionably late.
licensed to kill time
@debit: I have a feeling that he is unaware of our existence at this point in time.
asiangrrlMN
That’s how you do it, defense! End zone interception. Nice.
debit
Oh, the demoralizing interception. Heh.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Fashionably late, as you said!
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: And I was just going to add, ‘Or not’ before the interception.
JD Rhoades
@JK:
You’ve never met Duke Blue Devils fans, I take it.
debit
Now that the defense has finally showed up I hope the offense isn’t too far behind.
Andy K
Is it just my perception, or is that Kay Jewlers’ ad the most patronizing piece of bullshit ever? And is there any middle ground for Avatar? Looks like it will either be great or an unwatchable piece of overblown crap.
jwb
@JD Rhoades: Duke fans. Hates, hates, hates, hates, hates.
Yes, worse than Yankees fans.
asiangrrlMN
@Andy K: I fucking hate all jewelry commercials and holiday car commercials as well, but especially the jewelry ones. “He doesn’t really love you if he doesn’t go into debt to buy a useless piece of carbon that was mined by children in South Africa.”
Jarrett Allen–just go down with it. Seriously.
debit
Okay, the offense is now here. 1st and goal.
@asiangrrlMN: I hate jewelry commercials for that and for the obvious marketing ploy aimed at guys: buy her a diamond and it’s a slam dunk that you’ll get head tonight.
Oh man, stupid penalties. Cripes.
arguingwithsignposts
@JD Rhoades:
Or UNC Tar Heel fans.
Morbo
@Andy K: Nah, I get to watch them, too. And yeah, that commercial is ridiculously bad; I say that without even knowing which one you’re referring to.
This half is taking forehhhhhhhhver. I can’t wait any longer; I’m making a sandwich.
Andy K
@asiangrrlMN:
The ad I’m talkin’ ’bout is the one with the couple in the cabin, where the grown woman gets frightened by thunder and lightning AS SHE’S WATCHING THE STORM THROUGH THE WINDOW! Then her
daddys.o. says, “Don’t worry, I’m right here.” Because grown women are all really four-year olds on the inside. Sheesh….Yeah, I agree with you that all jewelry ads are bad, but this one is the worst I remember.Jarred Allen looked a bit turned around there. What is it about those Vikings that makes ’em lose their bearings?
jwb
So how exactly do you throw an illegal downfield pass from your opponent’s 1 yard line? (I’m only getting the text feed here.)
Andy K
WooHoo! Shiancoe!
Andy K
@jwb:
It was in the middle of the field. Allen was spun around before he made the pick, and he thought he was pitching the ball backwards.
asiangrrlMN
@debit: I was just prescient. Favre to Shiancoe! 24-7.
I watched Wanda last week and there was a woman on the ‘help with your romance’ segment. The woman said, and I shit you not, “I have been living with my wonderful boyfriend for three years, but I told him not to propose until he could afford the diamond ring I was worth. Is that wrong of me?”
Wanda: Who the hell says that? Really!
Snotty woman: I worked hard (in politics), and I deserve it.
Me: Then buy the goddamn ring your own self. Wanda! Tell her boyfriend to R-U-N from her! Women like that give us a baaaad name.
Andy K., I mute all commercials, so I don’t have a complete meltdown over them, but I’ve seen the visuals to that one.
Punchy
@Andy K: Cannot possibly worse than the bloody ears I get from the Jared commercials, and that ear-splitting chick that screeches out the tagline.
True story: bawt the engagement ring from Shane Co., and the saleswoman asked me why. I said I refused to step foot into Jared due to their asinine commercials, and they said that about 1 in 3 peeps tell them that very thing. That’s not how advertising is supposed to work, methinks.
Andy K
Stick a fork in the Bears. They’re done for the season. So much for Cutler turning them around.
Andy K
@asiangrrlMN:
If you notice the Sony PSP ads on, demute. Those are pretty damned funny.
debit
@Andy K: Hmm. I was gonna say he needs more than a season to mesh with a team, but then I looked at his record when he was in Denver and really his stats weren’t that great even after three seasons. Pity. I’d like to have a young QB to be excited about, but he isn’t it.
And you guys know there’s another open thread upstairs, right?
asiangrrlMN
@Punchy: Yeah, agreed. Advertisement FAIL.
Andy K
@debit:
They should have stuck with Orton and gone after receivers via the draft and free agency. Cutler, in Denver, had some great games in the midst of mediocre seasons, but he helped make ’em mediocre seasons by having some absolutely crappy games where he tried to force it and threw three or more picks- as has been happening lately in Chicago.
JD Rhoades
@arguingwithsignposts:
Funny, never saw Tar Heel fans yelling “Orphan! Orphan!” at a player whose father had just shot his mother and then killed himself.
burnspbesq
@mcd410x:
I’ll get over it. I enjoy watching Arsenal, but there’s no love there.
The team I really live and die for is Forest, and they are making me happy right about now.
Lisa K.
@JenJen:
Not this Sunday, evidently.
Lisa K.
@The Grand Panjandrum:
Eh. That is only because you are in denial about what a bunch of douchebags you actually cheer for. It is the only way you can carry on without wanting to kill yourself, so I understand the defense mechanism, even as I pity it..