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by John Cole|  December 4, 200911:23 pm| 113 Comments

This post is in: Assholes, Democratic Stupidity

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Apparently conservative Democrats are a lot like Republicans in many more ways than we knew:

Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus’ office confirmed late Friday night that the Montana Democrat was carrying on an affair with his state office director, Melodee Hanes, when he nominated her to be U.S. attorney in Montana.

According to a source familiar with their relationship, Hanes and Baucus began their relationship in the summer of 2008 – nearly a year before Baucus and his wife, Wanda, formally separated in April. The Senator has since divorced his wife.

Hanes ended her employment with Baucus in the spring of this year.

It just never stops. Is Baucus one of the “family values” creeps, too?

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  1. 1.

    Comrade Mary

    December 4, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    I want a video of Nelson and a goat of either sex. I don’t want to see it: I just want to know that it exists.

  2. 2.

    General Winfield Stuck

    December 4, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Now I know what CL was talking about in the open thread.

    All I can say, is Baucus is living dangerous.

  3. 3.

    Lolis

    December 4, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    @Comrade Mary:

    I want Obama to get the dirt on Lieberman the most. That guy needs to be taken down many pegs. A moralistic douche like Joe has got to have a few deep, dark secrets.

  4. 4.

    Seanly

    December 4, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    OT, but the Grifter in Chief is still peddling birther questions.

    CNN: Palin defends Obama birth certificate inquiries

    Isn’t a big part of the con to find something to keep the marks looking elsewhere?

  5. 5.

    morzer

    December 4, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    You can’t be serious! Someone, some poor deluded woman, wanted an affair with.. MAX BAUCUS? This can’t be true!

  6. 6.

    General Winfield Stuck

    December 4, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    It just never stops. Is Baucus one of the “family values” creeps, too?

    Nope, at least don’t think so. Just your ordinary philandering dem thinking with his pecker.

  7. 7.

    arguingwithsignposts

    December 4, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    @morzer:

    It’s got to be the power, because I can’t see any other reason.

    WTF, people. just wtf?

  8. 8.

    The Dangerman

    December 4, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    I’m just surprised anyone is fucking Baucus (unless he presents his credit card and picture ID first).

    Then again, Tiger is married to A SWEDISH SWIMSUIT MODEL and he seems to have been banging chicks here, there, and everywhere. Must be nice to be so loaded (I’m referring to his bank account).

  9. 9.

    arguingwithsignposts

    December 4, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Just your ordinary philandering dem man thinking with his pecker.

    fixed that for ya’.

  10. 10.

    PaulW

    December 4, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    This is why we need to vote ugly virginal guys into office, so that when there is a sex scandal, no one’s gonna mind.

    …

    Wartenberg in 2012!

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 4, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    What I never can understand is that even in the face of overwhelming evidence that high-profile pervs and cheats are going to get caught sooner or later, every single one of these dudes behaves as though they are immune from scrutiny or exposure. At this point, for me anyhow, it’s no longer the hypocrisy. It’s the DUMB.

  12. 12.

    robertdsc-PowerBook & 27 titles

    December 4, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Heckuva job, Maxie.

  13. 13.

    JasonF

    December 4, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but this has to be the best correction I have ever seen in a newspaper.

    Keep up the good work, guys!

  14. 14.

    calipygian

    December 4, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    I’ll demand that Max Baucus surrender his seat as soon as Vitter puts a shitty diaper over his head and gives his up voluntarily.

  15. 15.

    Noonan

    December 4, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Awesome. The guy managing the bill on the Senate floor has something else to worry about.

    Silver-lining: if some low-grade sex scandal had to happen to a Dem at least it was this douchebag.

  16. 16.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 4, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    @JasonF: what a difference a slash makes, eh?

  17. 17.

    Noonan

    December 5, 2009 at 12:01 am

    @JasonF: This one was a whole lotta fail:

    A Nov. 8 profile of Army Spec. Frederick Greene, one of the victims of the shootings at Fort Hood, Tex., incorrectly said that his wife had made arrangements to move from their home in Tennessee to the base. She had made no plans to leave Tennessee. The article also said that Greene’s mother had died when he was a boy and that he was raised by Karen Nourse, whom the story described as his mother’s twin sister, and Nourse’s husband, Rob Nourse. Karen Nourse is his mother and is still alive; she raised him with Rob Nourse, who is her husband and Greene’s stepfather.

  18. 18.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:06 am

    @morzer:

    Well, I don’t know why she is his girlfriend.

    But, she became his girlfriend and sometime after that he nominated her for a US attorney appointment, along with two other people.

    Senators get to make US attorney recommendations for their state.

    But, she didn’t get it, thank goodness, because if she had gotten it, this would be quite the huge scandal.

    He really must be just dumb as a rock. He nominated his girlfriend?

  19. 19.

    charles johnson

    December 5, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Meh. He’d separated from his wife before he started dating her.

    Who hasn’t been there, amirite?

  20. 20.

    Brick Oven Bill

    December 5, 2009 at 12:07 am

    “I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus, Barney always introduces me as his lover.”

    -Herb Moses

    To the best of my knowledge, here is a picture of Barney and Herb.

    Note Barney’s hand on Herb Moses’ ass, and Herb’s hand tentatively touching Barney’s back.

    Herb dumped Barney three months after Herb left his powerful position at Fannie-Freddie.

    The difference between Max and Barney, is that Max is the Alpha, and Barney is the Beta, bordering on the Omega.

    And Barney has also done much more damage to the Republic.

  21. 21.

    Bobby Thomson

    December 5, 2009 at 12:10 am

    This has been public rumor for several months. I don’t think it’s a horsehead in the bed. Baucus has been playing ball for weeks.

    I could take the cheap shot that you know it wasn’t a Republican because the other party was of consenting age and a woman, but I’m no longer comfortable with the implicit homophobia in that.

    This is a public issue, not because of the adultery, which is between him and his ex-wife and really no one else’s business, but because of the perceived influence trading. This woman’s career as a prosecutor is now officially dead.

    Schweitzer, Tester, and Baucus aside, I’m not sure the Montana Democrats have much of a bench. Which is a shame. It would be nice to get some new blood in here.

  22. 22.

    John O

    December 5, 2009 at 12:13 am

    We should try to get over the idea that “brains” or “intelligence” has anything to do with this kind of thing.

    For any heterosexual male under 35, our dicks are just far too influential. And all one has to do is consider all the truly beautiful, smart, stable women who have been adulterated to know the old saying, “Show me a beautiful woman, and I’ll show you a guy who is tired of screwing her” is true.

    Now, in Baucus’ case, one has to think the power had more to do with it than the penile influence. But it’s all one and the same.

    Marriage was invented when “’til death do you part” was about 20 years. Piece of cake.

  23. 23.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:16 am

    totally OT

    but, whoever recommended Mon Oncle Antoine to me, thank you. i’ve seen it a couple times, and the little mini doc about claude jutra that comes with the criterion collection version. very cool, and i may watch it again tonight.

  24. 24.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:19 am

    @charles johnson:

    Which would be fine, except, then he tried to get her appointed as a US attorney.

    A big, high profile appointment, for his girlfriend, in a state where the US attorney she would have replaced, had she been appointed, was involved in the Bush US attorney scandal.

  25. 25.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:21 am

    one’s lack of family values is directly proportional to how much one preaches about family values, in politics. (and maybe outside of politics, too)

  26. 26.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    December 5, 2009 at 12:23 am

    The difference between Max and Barney, is that Max is the Alpha, and Barney is the Beta, bordering on the Omega.

    Is there anybody here who can translate Gibberish?

  27. 27.

    freelancer (itouch)

    December 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Fuck. If only hairdo Nelson could ever score an NU jerseychaser, we might get HCR passed. Alas, he remains a Nebraska unfuckable. Maybe if someone could convince him some corporate campaign contibutions are lodged in the cervix of a cadaver of some dead female voter, there may be hope.

  28. 28.

    Sly

    December 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    It just never stops. Is Baucus one of the “family values” creeps, too?

    He continually gets low ratings from the Godbotherer Lobby. Eagle Forum, Christian Coalition, Concerned Women for America, Campaign for Working Families, etc.

    Shame, really.

    The only positive scores he ever gets are on tangential immigration issues, mostly related to border security. So does Tester. I guess making sure those filthy Canucks can’t sneak in is a big fucking deal up in Montana.

  29. 29.

    DavidNYC

    December 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    @charles johnson: I know that “amirite” is usually some kind of joke indicator (I am familiar with all Internet traditions), but the article states that Baucus began seeing this woman before he separated from his wife.

    Hanes and Baucus began their relationship in the summer of 2008 – nearly a year before Baucus and his wife, Wanda, formally separated in April

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    @Noonan

    Who wrote that, Alessandra Stanley?

  31. 31.

    DougJ

    December 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    As much as I hate Max Baucus, this doesn’t seem that bad to me.

  32. 32.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:26 am

    @freelancer (itouch):

    Fuck. If only hairdo Nelson could ever score an NU jerseychaser, we might get HCR passed. Alas, he remains a Nebraska unfuckable. Maybe if someone could convince him some corporate campaign contibutions are lodged in the cervix of a cadaver of some dead female voter, there may be hope.

    that sounds like the plot of a really cool david lynch movie.

  33. 33.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:33 am

    @DavidNYC:

    I think “formally” means “they admitted they were living apart”.

    It’s the standard qualifier, anyway. They could well have been apart before that.

  34. 34.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:35 am

    this is an obvious conflict of interest and problem regardless of whether or not his wife has hurt feelings, or if they were living apart.

    the salient aspect is that he is banging and promoting a person that he works with.

  35. 35.

    jcricket

    December 5, 2009 at 12:39 am

    @freelancer (itouch): Yeah, affairs and malfeasance and influence peddling, that’s all cool – but passing healthcare reform that would help people? Unconscionable! The public clearly doesn’t want that.

    Baucus is clearly human, and by that I mean he’s a complete asshole.

  36. 36.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:39 am

    @MBSS:

    I don’t think Baucus preaches family values.

    He whines incessantly about spending, but only if that spending threatens the interests of large donors.

    Those two things don’t necessarily have to go together. We just assume they do, because of, well, Republicans.

  37. 37.

    DavidNYC

    December 5, 2009 at 12:39 am

    The article has since changed:

    According to a source familiar with their relationship, Hanes and Baucus began their relationship in the summer of 2008 – nearly a year before Baucus and his wife, Wanda, divorced in April 2009. The Senator had informally separated from his wife in March 2008 and they were living apart when he began dating Hanes, according to Baucus’ office.

    Of course, MBSS is right – that doesn’t matter. The obvious conflict of interest is what matters.

  38. 38.

    M. Bouffant

    December 5, 2009 at 12:43 am

    Different link (w/ photo of Melodee, who at least is about Baucus’s age: Not one of those Newt Gingrich marries woman of grand-daughter age, makes her cut her hair & dress like a frump to look as old as possible deals). Either way this part is fun too:

    A Department of Justice official who is in a relationship with Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) withdrew as a finalist for Montana U.S. Attorney to live with the senator in Washington, a Baucus spokesperson confirmed to Main Justice today.

    Living in sin!

  39. 39.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:44 am

    is baucus for the ramp up of troops in afghanistan?

    because if he is for that and a worried deficit hawk about health care reform, then that’s enough to call bullshit right there.

  40. 40.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:44 am

    @MBSS:

    Is that the problem? I agree with you completely about the attempted influence peddling, but I think he can date her. It’s okay by me, not that it matters.

    She’s not ridiculously young, and she was actually a county prosecutor, at one time. I don’t see the relationship itself as a problem.

  41. 41.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:49 am

    @kay:

    the major problem for me is hooking up with a melodee with two e’s. a melody with a y is an entirely different story.

  42. 42.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 12:52 am

    “Senator Baucus is currently in a mature and happy relationship with Melodee Hanes. They are both divorced, and in no way was their relationship the cause of their respective divorces,” Ty Matsdorf, a spokesperson for Baucus, said in a statement to Main Justice.

    http://www.mainjustice.com/2009/12/04/baucus-girlfriend-withdrew-as-u-s-attorney-candidate/

  43. 43.

    Dave

    December 5, 2009 at 12:52 am

    I don’t care whether the pretext is fiction or not–get Max Baucus the hell out of the Senate, and embarrass the shit out of him as he departs.

  44. 44.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:55 am

    @MBSS:

    That’s a problem. We can’t put up with that nonsense.

  45. 45.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 1:01 am

    @kay:

    http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/04/glamourpuss-the-ench.html

    how many points do get for a bottle of merlot?

  46. 46.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 1:01 am

    @MBSS:

    It was his second marriage. Now you know more about Max Baucus and his personal life than you ever wanted to know.

    This is already boring as a sex scandal. Figures. It’s Max Baucus.

  47. 47.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 1:05 am

    baucus is boring.

    but, obama acid is not.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/02/obama-acid.html

  48. 48.

    RareSanity

    December 5, 2009 at 1:09 am

    @JasonF:

    Waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but this has to be the best correction I have ever seen in a newspaper.

    “Get up and get, get, get down…”

  49. 49.

    RareSanity

    December 5, 2009 at 1:11 am

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    LOLWUT?

    RareSanity +2

    Rum and egg nog…Jeebuz, I love the holidays…

  50. 50.

    morzer

    December 5, 2009 at 1:21 am

    “Senator Baucus is currently in a mature and happy relationship with Melodee Hanes. They are both divorced, and in no way was their relationship the cause of their respective divorces,” Ty Matsdorf, a spokesperson for Baucus, said in a statement to Main Justice.

    Mr Matsdorf will undergo corrective surgery for a nasal hyperextension on Monday….

  51. 51.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 1:31 am

    kobe with the last second shot…

  52. 52.

    Martin

    December 5, 2009 at 1:31 am

    Well, if Franken gets a headline, I think we could let it slide.

  53. 53.

    Mike G

    December 5, 2009 at 1:48 am

    Lawyers, Guns and Money marks a 10th anniversary —

    This month marks the 10th anniversary of the Clinton administration’s cavalier handover of the Panama Canal — leaving an alleged front for the Chinese Red Army in control of the strategic passage — despite the strong misgivings of some top foreign policy experts.

    “If we do nothing, I can guarantee you that within a decade, a communist Chinese regime that hates democracy and sees America as its primary enemy will dominate the tiny country of Panama, and thus dominate the Panama Canal, one of the world’s most important strategic points,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) told a House subcommittee on Dec. 7, 1999, as it debated the handover.

  54. 54.

    Morbo

    December 5, 2009 at 1:49 am

    @RareSanity: Someone stuck the wrong tape in the machine; we’ve seen this one before.

  55. 55.

    gocart mozart

    December 5, 2009 at 1:59 am

    [email protected]Lolis:
    I have a theory that some very influential people in the Republican party already have dirt on Lieberman. Its as good an explanation as any for his behavior these past several [email protected]Lolis:

  56. 56.

    Kris

    December 5, 2009 at 2:08 am

    @morzer:

    What’s worse is that she could be wife number 3. What is it about Max Baucus?

    Also, who names their kid Zeno (Baucus)?

  57. 57.

    Martin

    December 5, 2009 at 2:11 am

    @Mike G:

    Dana really is a special breed of lunatic.

  58. 58.

    Martin

    December 5, 2009 at 2:14 am

    @gocart mozart:

    Nah. He-who-would-have-been-VP is just pissed that the base treats him like a piece of shit. Maybe if he could get on MTP every 11 minutes like his buddy McCain does he’d settle in.

  59. 59.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 2:36 am

    Yeah, a little cognitive dissonance thing going on here. On one day we talk about how absurd is the attention paid to Tiger Woods, and on the next day, we play Pretend Sex Police over some inconsequential story about a politician and his private life.

    Divorce is rampant. Married people of all genders are unfaithful to their vows. I take both of these situations to spring from the same fountain, which is that marriage is a dysfunctional institution and the current model is based on lies and bad assumptions. So bad that in some states they even now have different kinds of “marriages,” the ordinary ones and the new “covenant” ones. You have to read up on the covenant marriage concept and laugh out loud at it to understand how absurd it is, and how deeply it reflects on the even further absurdity of the “ordinary” marriage that it supposedly is out to “strengthen.”

    In any case, I don’t see the point of this post, John, unless you have now decided that the Bwaaahaha Sex Police approach to scandal is the new standard at BJ? Or am I missing something?

  60. 60.

    MBSS

    December 5, 2009 at 2:46 am

    @AngusTheGodOfMeat:

    you’re missing the fact that that baucus is screwing his state office director, whom he nominated to be the U.S. attorney in Montana. it’s called a conflict of interest. the cheating aspect is only marginally material.

    btw, a cgi reenactment of the tiger woods accident from the chinese:

    http://www.manofest.com/Content/chinese-cgi-recreation-of-tiger-woods-accident.html

  61. 61.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 2:57 am

    @MBSS:

    I would wager that the office affair/romance is ubiquitous in this society, and that conflicts of interest are where you find them. It is not necessary to have sex with the object of potential, or real, conflict of interest, nor is it necessary that having sex with an object of such potential conflict is tantamount to acting on the conflict of interest.

    This is sex police stuff, as far as I am concerned. There was either conflict of interest, or not. The sex doesn’t matter to me. I’ll stipulate that creating the appearance of a problem is a problem in this context, but so what? A politician having an affair with a potential object of conflict of interest? That’s got to be about as rare as the common cold. If we are going to have a thread for every one of those, then we are going to have to work in shift around here to keep up with them.

    What next, threads about politicians getting speeding tickets? Probably fewer of those, now that I think of it.

    Who gives a flying fukkity fukk?

  62. 62.

    Ed Marshall

    December 5, 2009 at 3:07 am

    Wow, Angus, you have to be an HR nightmare. I’m really not a prude and I don’t care what you do with your prick, but you think it’s some kind of oppression to keep it out of your subordinates? Is it that hard to figure out why this is a problem for people who want a promotion but don’t feel like fucking you? Think about it for five seconds.

  63. 63.

    Pope Bandar bin Turtle

    December 5, 2009 at 3:13 am

    Warning! Monk spoiler alert!!

    It was the one-armed man! Bwahaha!!

  64. 64.

    Little Dreamer

    December 5, 2009 at 3:19 am

    @Ed Marshall:

    I don’t care what you do with your prick, but you think it’s some kind of oppression to keep it out of your subordinates?

    Excuse me? I am not a subordinate. He doesn’t date or screw co-workers at all. Where in the hell did he say that he was oppressed if he couldn’t screw coworkers? He didn’t.

  65. 65.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 3:20 am

    @Ed Marshall:

    You can disagree with me if you like, Ed, but one thing you can’t do is put words in my mouth, because I will pull them out and shove them up your ass.

    Nowhere in my writing did I suggest that it is “some kind of oppression to keep it out of your subordinates.” My posts were about this thread and the absurdity of doing a faux shock or guffaw over the affairs of politicians, or celebrities for that matter.

    I detest the sex police attitude. I detest the phony moral superiorty. I really detest the idea that having sex is somehow a pathway to other kinds of moral turpitude. It’s like weed being the gateway to heroin, it’s just bullshit. There is either conflict, or there is not. If there is, nail it. If there is an unacceptable appearance of impropriety, deal with that. But don’t act as if having sex somehow makes an ordinary case of appearance of impropriety somehow “worse” or more concerning, because that’s just BS. For every case of this kind of thing, there are twenty cases of real conflict of interest going on that have no sex component and are probably far worse. Compared to weaseling money and power, getting laid seems to me to be a less awful reason to bend a rule than some other things might be.

    Great example? We’ve spent more time on this blog talking about the ins and outs (no pun intended) of John McCain’s affair on his first wife than we have on the real scandals in his past, such as the sordid Keating affair, or the fact that he is apparently a gambling addict with a vicious temper, or just the fact that he is a really lousy excuse for a Senator, with little legislative achievement to show for his long record, and little apparent interest in anything but getting on tv and running for president. But let’s talk about his goddam sex life, because that is good for 200 posts at a crack.

  66. 66.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 3:23 am

    He doesn’t date or screw co-workers at all.

    Hell no. For one thing, they are almost all men, but the real reason to avoid them is that they are mostly programmers.

  67. 67.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 3:30 am

    @Pope Bandar bin Turtle:

    Okay, but I really, really prefer Father Guido Sarducci.

  68. 68.

    2th&nayle

    December 5, 2009 at 3:32 am

    ”It’s not exactly clear what happened, but at some point it appears Ms. Baucus was loading bags of mulch in her vehicle,” D.C. Metropolitan Police Information Officer Joe Gentile said.

    “Joe Gentile”? You got to being kidding, right? Sounds like a term they might use down at the Jewish deli for the guy that comes in and orders corned beef on white w/ Miracle Whip.

  69. 69.

    .

    December 5, 2009 at 3:35 am

    I am a good friend of almost all the people mentioned in this article and must say that DavidNYC, weather intending sarcasm or not, is right, Max Baucus and Melodee Hanes began their relationship after Max and Wanda seperated and after Melodee and Thomas seperated. The relationship also began after the process of U.S. Attorney selection was under way. For anyone who is familiar with this selection process, you will know that Baucus’ power does not extend far past the nomination, as the endorsement of a third party, the junior state senator, and the president are all required. The three nominations were submitted by the third party, and not by either one of the senators. Besides, the only reason this business became a problem in the first place is because Tom Bennett wanted to compensate for the wrongs he committed in the relationship by shaming his ex wife’s name and starting this rumor. The run for U.S. Attourney by Melodee Hanes was ended because she and Senator Baucus did not want the public to focus on the development of a personal relationship instead of Hanes’ resume and qualifications.

  70. 70.

    AngusTheGodOfMeat

    December 5, 2009 at 3:38 am

    @2th&nayle:

    Gentile is an Italian name, pronounced Jen’Tee lay.

    But, you knew that.

  71. 71.

    2th&nayle

    December 5, 2009 at 3:42 am

    @2th&nayle: I actually agree with your comment here Angus, but at last count we’re +4 towards 200 comments with your help. If you don’t like the subject matter here maybe you should consider starting your own blog. Oh wait a minute…I see you already have. What’s up with that? And BTW, that’s mighty fine looking live stock you got there.

  72. 72.

    The Main Gauche of Mild Reason

    December 5, 2009 at 3:46 am

    @2th&nayle:

    “Joe Gentile”? You got to being kidding, right? Sounds like a term they might use down at the Jewish deli for the guy that comes in and orders corned beef on white w/ Miracle Whip.

    More like the guy who orders cheese on his corned beef sandwich.

  73. 73.

    2th&nayle

    December 5, 2009 at 3:55 am

    @AngusTheGodOfMeat: You mean pronounced like, “Chantilly”? Like, “Gentile Lace with a pretty face…”? No, I really didn’t know that, but thanks for the insight.

  74. 74.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    December 5, 2009 at 5:28 am

    Meh. He wasn’t living with his wife at the time. Who cares if he nominated his girlfriend unless they tried to hide that fact from investigators doing the background check.

  75. 75.

    Napoleon

    December 5, 2009 at 5:30 am

    What great news to wake up to!

  76. 76.

    bago

    December 5, 2009 at 5:31 am

    @AngusTheGodOfMeat: Hey now, the proper manipulations of sinusoidal variations can produce excellent results… in bed.

  77. 77.

    Ian

    December 5, 2009 at 5:49 am

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Jesus man. Have you no decency?

  78. 78.

    Napoleon

    December 5, 2009 at 5:51 am

    @Napoleon:

    OK, so after I wrote that I surf over to Calculated Risk and find out the bank where I have all my cash savings, AmTrust, was seized last night. What a lousy thing to wake up to!

  79. 79.

    bob h

    December 5, 2009 at 7:05 am

    Just exercising his alpha-male perogatives.

  80. 80.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    December 5, 2009 at 8:12 am

    This is one hundred and eleventy billion times worse than Stanford, Ensign, Vitter and who ever else I’m forgetting, combined!

    Because shut up. That’s why!

  81. 81.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 8:16 am

    They’re both just arrogantly stupid.

    If she’s going to date the Senator from Montana she has to scratch “candidate for US Attorney on his recommendation” off her list of ambitions, because the nomination will be tainted by the conflict.

    She must know this. He must know this. Which means they both chose to ignore the obvious conflict and forge ahead.

    Neither one of them showed the most basic level of ethical judgment or common sense.

  82. 82.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Remember that story about the jihadis defeated on a plane by a valiant Real American from the heartland?

    Get a load of the real story.

    What was the comment by one of the guys who thought this was true? That it had too much detail to be a lie? Hahahahahaha, gasp, hahahaha.

    Because Arabic dialect and Spanish are both spoken by fereigners and sound exactly the same to Real Americans!

  83. 83.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 8:30 am

    @Napoleon:

    sorry to hear that. Hope things are in good order once you get to talk to whatever FDIC official now manages the bank.

  84. 84.

    Tattoosydney

    December 5, 2009 at 8:32 am

    @Ian:
    @Brick Oven Bill:

    No, BoB is just a little obsessed with what Barney has in his pants, but the closet door is strong, so BoB has to cover his lust with a thin (and entirely unconvincing) veneer of disgust.

  85. 85.

    WereBear

    December 5, 2009 at 8:33 am

    It’s a serious problem: The Who Ya Gonna Meet.

    I know lots of people who work long and/or crazy hours. They’d like to not date co-workers, but between unavoidably getting to know someone (under pressure conditions, no less) and the time and unknowns involved in what? Bars? Chess Club? It’s past time we have some guidelines which acknowledge this sticky wicket.

    One of the good things about high school and college is how it basically says, “Here are all the people your age in town.” Perhaps internet dating got so popular because it’s a more discreet way of saying the same thing, but the stigma is slowly fading. And adult politicians, of any age, are not going to want to look “needy” by so doing.

    Just my way of saying this is pretty much a constant, in mathematical terms.

  86. 86.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 8:43 am

    @WereBear:

    I completely agree. But, how stupid are they?

    They thought it was smart to put her name on the list for US attorney?

    Max Baucus is dumb as a rock, but what about her? Why do that to yourself ? She must have known everyone would assume she got the appointment because of who her boyfriend is, had she gotten it. Why not pass on that “opportunity”?

    You shouldn’t have to tell grownups these things. I’m not thrilled that she’s now serving as counsel to the juvenile justice project. She has huge ethical blind spots.

  87. 87.

    Xanthippas

    December 5, 2009 at 8:44 am

    The article says that he and his wife were separated and living apart at the time the relationship began. If that’s true, that’s not quite an “affair” in the standard sense of the term. Still…it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s not exactly true, and it’s still completely clueless to nominate your girlfriend for a US attorney position, let alone do it when you happen to still be married.

  88. 88.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 8:48 am

    @WereBear:

    agreed. In University things get even more complicated because adult graduate students are always in close relationships with their professors and it always leads to the cliched married Professor affair with graduate assistant followed by divorce and a new marriage. although this is frowned upon it is very very common.

    but the point in this story was the filing of her name for the position, very very stupid. I could not care less about the sex part.

  89. 89.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 9:00 am

    @valdivia:

    It’s embarrassing. She was a deputy county prosecutor for three years, in the juvenile section. That means she was an assistant, at the county level. It’s a job you take straight out of law school here.
    Must not be a whole lot of lawyers in Montana if she made the cut.

  90. 90.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 9:02 am

    @kay:

    at least she had a law degree… one can imagine someone in this situation being nominated for her other assets. but the great part is that she did not get the job, which I think makes this easier to deal with.

  91. 91.

    woody

    December 5, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Joe Lieberman smuggles state secrets to Israel in his dewlaps!

  92. 92.

    bemused

    December 5, 2009 at 9:15 am

    I swear it’s a miracle if any half way normal person starting out in Congress ends up after years with any brain cells or ethics remaining. I just finished reading “Molly Ivins, A Rebel Life” & Molly, in her last New Year’s letter to close friends wrote, “May the D’s avoid making bigger fools of themselves than the R’s, which seems like a doable deal”.
    I’m more & more skeptical about the doable part.
    2 degrees here last night with about 5 inches of snow accumulated over the week on the ground. Feels damn cold after an overly warm November.

  93. 93.

    woody

    December 5, 2009 at 9:17 am

    While I was teaching at LSU, a particularly luscious young woman tried to buy a grade with sex. She’d enrolled in, then stopped coming to, but neglected to drop, a class. Around Thanksgiving, she apparently noticed this discrepancy. So after attending class for the first time in a month or more, she asked if she could talk to me after class about her situation. I agreed.

    After class that evening, I was in my office when she appeared in the door with one of those foil gift-bags in her hand, which she shyly proffered me. I took it from her, opened it up, and was rewarded by the vision of her panties, neatly tucked around a bottle of Johnny Walker Black. I extracted both gifts, and then, holding up the panties, had the wit to say: “They’re very nice, but I don’t believe they’re my size…” and gave them both back…

    Which diffused the situation.

  94. 94.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 9:20 am

    @woody:

    oh war stories! this is a very good one.

    I had something similar happen to me, the student kept flirting but never actually gave me his underwear or bring alcohol. He just kept showing up and flirting. and pulling his shit half off during class (he sat in the first row that last four sessions he showed up to).

  95. 95.

    valdivia

    December 5, 2009 at 9:21 am

    @valdivia:

    shiRt, not the other word. sigh, no edit button on firefox.

  96. 96.

    Napoleon

    December 5, 2009 at 9:43 am

    @valdivia:

    Well they say they will be open for business today as the new bank. Everything will be covered by FDIC for me

    @kay:

    That is how it is everywhere. In her case she doesn’t even have broad experience in either civil or criminal. Regardless IMO anyone short of a full blown prosecutor or someone that is the head of a major division in a major justification simply does not have the resume for the job.

  97. 97.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 10:05 am

    @Napoleon:

    I agree.
    Besides being a really difficult job on the merits, it’s so incredibly prestigious. They go from US attorney to full partner. It’s an absolute ticket.
    It’s part of what I found so offensive about the Bush attorney scandal.
    There’s money to be made after leaving that position. I think we should demand that they be qualified. It’s not like it’s hard to measure, with lawyers. It’s easy to compare qualifications.
    Assistant county prosecutors here are still supervised for the first year. They appear, but not alone.
    Three years at the county level is just a joke. Forget him, she should be embarrassed.
    My husband sits on a state board, and he’s a lawyer. He wouldn’t think of recommending me for anything related to that, and if he tried, I wouldn’t let him. This isn’t a difficult decision. We wouldn’t even consider it.

  98. 98.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2009 at 11:09 am

    @woody: I’m wondering if I can afford the pay cut to start enriching the minds of our yoots.

  99. 99.

    Balconesfault

    December 5, 2009 at 11:15 am

    Melodee Hanes is milfy cute.

    Just thought I’d note that.

  100. 100.

    lou

    December 5, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Come on folks, everyone does not have the talents to be a Tiger Woods. Some folks just have to rely on their public options.

  101. 101.

    kay

    December 5, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    @Balconesfault:

    She’s serially ethically challenged. She left Iowa under a cloud due to some disgraceful trial behavior involving a “romantic relationship between the prosecutor and the medical examiner”.
    Which explains how she ended up as a lowly assistant county prosecutor in Montana mid-career. Because she had to leave Iowa in 1999, and start over.

  102. 102.

    Joel

    December 5, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    @charles johnson: The affair isn’t bothersome, but the nepotism is. But the again, who doesn’t have an incompetent cousin or nephew or something who needs a little work on the side?

  103. 103.

    liberal

    December 5, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    @woody:

    “They’re very nice, but I don’t believe they’re my size…” and gave them both back…

    LOL! Awesome.

  104. 104.

    burnspbesq

    December 5, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    @AngusTheGodOfMeat:

    Not only are you missing something, you’re missing the whole thing.

    It’s not about the affair. It’s about the US Attorney job.

  105. 105.

    Mnemosyne

    December 5, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Montana has a Democratic governor who would appoint a Democrat to replace Max Baucus, the health insurance industry’s bitch.

    Therefore, I’m outraged by Baucus’s actions and demand that he resign immediately.

  106. 106.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: This heah is an outrage! An outrage I say!
    He must resign ah fourthwith sir.

  107. 107.

    Corner Stone

    December 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    @Balconesfault: Hmmmm…
    Explains the ee on the end at least.

  108. 108.

    Johnny Pez

    December 5, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    @Sly:

    I guess making sure those filthy Canucks can’t sneak in is a big fucking deal up in Montana.

    To be fair, they do border on Alberta.

  109. 109.

    Little Dreamer

    December 5, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    And how is that different from Ensign, who helped both the mistress AND her husband to advance in careers? Not only that, he gave many thousands of dollars to other members of her family.

  110. 110.

    gil mann

    December 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    the major problem for me is hooking up with a melodee with two e’s

    “I’m ‘appalled’ with two p’s”

    Bloom County’s like the Bible, man. It’s got a passage for everything.

  111. 111.

    Karen Nourse

    December 5, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    @Noonan:

    Thank you for clarifying I (Karen Nourse) am alive and I am SPEC Fred Greens mother. My son Fred was murdered in the Fort Hood shooting on Nov 5. However, the reported info about Fred’s family moving to Fort Hood is correct. Fred’s wife and 2 children were scheduled to move to Fort Hood on Nov 15. Myself and my sister were planning to travel with them and stay and celebrate Thanksgiving with Fred and his family.

  112. 112.

    Quaker in a Basement

    December 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Hit the road, Max, and don’t you call us back no more.

  113. 113.

    ominira

    December 5, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    @Karen Nourse: My condolences on your loss.

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