I think if Ron Reagan was in the same room as that idiot scumbag Ron Christie, he would have punched him in the damned neck for trying to bring up his dad.
You really have to watch that clip. And just as an aside, Dick Cheney is a toxic piece of filth whose poison still infects this nation. I wish he would just drop off the face of the earth, and he can take that punk Ron Christie with him. Christie is now whining because Obama doesn’t say he loves America enough. Although if you listen to Cheney’s breathing on that Fox interview, he is not going to be around here long.
*** Update ***
Sorry, forgot to mention this was on Hardball. Here is the video.
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Uhhhhh…. John, do you have a link? Or a video embed? I see no cite.
Sentient Puddle
Is there supposed to be a link to something somewhere in this post? I needs me some context.
Eric U.
I always wondered how Cheney made it through running the country for 8 years. It probably had to do with the fact that he was hiding most of the time. It must really grate on Ron Reagan’s nerves to hear republicans talk about his dad so much.
Comrade Mary
Tweety is on now. I’ll go get some popcorn and watch the 7 PM repeat.
I really, really like Ron Reagan.
NobodySpecial
I just saw that on Tweety’s show.
He should tell them to go talk to the fake son if they wanna misrepresent Ronnie.
Sentient Puddle
Oh, so this was on Hardball?
Xecky Gilchrist
Christie is now whining because Obama doesn’t say he loves America enough.
Blargh, one year’s worth of 2003 was enough for me, thanks.
SteveinSC
Ron Christie, republican, is certainly the proverbial chicken in love with Colonel Sanders. He really is an idiot. And I can’t stand that spitting freak, tweety. I switch to “Two and a Half Men” reruns during his second hour and drink through his first, also.
thomas
So, John, how do you really feel?
beltane
Who here thinks Cheney would long survive the capture of Bin Laden? It would kill him, just kill him. That’s how much he loves America.
IndieTarheel
Ron Christie is a douche in training, aspiring to be Michael Steele when
he grows upthe GOP needs another stooge to play overseer on the plantation.David Hunt
I work hard not to wish death/ill health/catastrophic acts of God on anyone, even someone as loathsome as Dick Cheney. That said, if he were to drop dead I can think of no one on Earth that would evoke less sympathy in me upon hearing the news.
Addendum: On second thought, OBL ‘s death would probably evoke an actual feeling of satisfaction, so Cheney gets to go to Number Two in my “No One on Earth List.”
DCPlod
I remember when that asshole Frank Gaffney had the brass balls to tell Ron his father would be ashamed of him.
Here’s the clip. One of those times when you wish you could reach through the screen and punch/strangle someone.
Xecky Gilchrist
Although if you listen to Cheney’s breathing on that Fox interview, he is not going to be around here long.
You’ll be surprised how long raw determination can keep someone clinging to life. And the raw evil doubles its length.
El Cid
That’s not breathing. That’s his internal equipment’s cooling ventilation releasing heat from the concentrated evil generator which powers him.
Just Some Fuckhead
I love how the gay black Republican demographic gets so much airtime on Hardballs.
AlanDean
Christie is one of those talking heads that really makes me mad. Whimpering little turd. Joan Walsh ripped into him a while ago when he claimed millions were being spent in Alaska to defend Sarah Sadsack. Of course I didn’t watch it, just read online. When I do see Christie on the tube I change the channel, pronto. Mute sound, avert eyes then hit the channel button. That sequence works for all sorts of nut jobs.
pcbedamned
Gateway Pundit covered this earlier. I gave up on that site when everyone started going batshit crazy, but this I couldn’t resist commenting on. What I love best about commenting at far-right sites now is how rather than dispute a comment, you are told to just go away(comment # 43)… ‘Exceptionalism’ at its best :)
El Cid
FAIR’s Jim Naureckas shows how it’s okay for right wingers to call liberals and Democrats names about Hitler and Nazis and so forth, but don’t liberals and Democrats ever, ever talk about such things with regard to Republicans and righties.
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In 2005, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) described the Bush administration’s torture policies and system of secret prisons as being reminiscent of “Soviets in their gulags.” At the time, the media and Republicans were apoplectic about Durbin’s remarks, sparking a week-long frenzy. Several conservatives called on the Senate to censure Durbin, and Karl Rove, at the time a high-ranking White House official, argued that Durbin’s quote was evidence that liberals are traitors. Durbin eventually offered a tearful apology.
But notice that just a few days ago, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of the Senate Republican leadership, called Medicaid a “health care gulag.” Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) recently called Dems’ health care reform efforts “Soviet-style gulag health care.” Neither reporters nor other members of Congress batted an eye.
Also note, when Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) said Republicans are promoting lethal healthcare policies, it was a huge national controversy. When Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said the same thing, no one seemed to care.
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I’m sure this has nothing to do with a liberal / conservative viewpoint in the major news media, but simply because journalists are lazy and conformist.
Seebach
How does Cheney with his robotic heart continue to live when there are so many children and innocents dying every day? Where’s your God now, GOP?
Mike E
I’d like to see a staring match between Ron Christie and Virginia Foxx — heads will ‘splode!
DonkeyKong
You mean Ron Christie from the horror classic “Driving Mr. Cheney”
Seebach
Gnostic religious mythology just makes so much more sense, even than so-called evolution or intelligent design. Once you realize the earth was created by a mad, deformed, vengeful, evil demiurge, everything just falls into place! There’s no way Dick Cheney just evolves by “chance”
Mike E
@Seebach:
Dick Cheney is the end result of Social Darwinism.
Max
@AlanDean: I saw it. Joan railed him but good. He wasn’t talking, much less seeing, straight by the end.
;)
Seebach
@Mike E: At any moment, Cheney could die of a heart attack. At any time from 2000 to now, it could have happened. It could happen now. But it doesn’t. Why? He is the puppet of the demiurge!
Tsulagi
Not only that, have we yet heard Obama say he’ll fight until victory in The War On Christmas? I think not. Proof he’s a Ramadan loving America hater.
Yeah, like he needs a heart and lungs for that.
Comrade Javamanphil
This would be a near perfect tweet. Needs more fucks though.
AngusTheGodOfMeat
Christie’s smug crap is by far the most infuriating on the cables. The man is a moral and intellectual train wreck and he looks like something out of South Park.
demkat620
I think that is why he keeps doing it. He knows he will never have to face any consequences.
And Ron Christie was an even bigger asshat during the campaign. He loves the whole “Democrats are worse” thingy.
Bad Horse's Filly
@El Cid: FTW
Soylent Green
Cheney’s man-sized safe is where he stores his Vader suit.
Mike E
@Seebach:
See: Jon Stewart, Puppy brains and Kittens
srv
Well, if you were worried about 2010, after Cheney’s prediction we have nothing to worry about.
Socraticsilence
Wait- creepy thought- Obama’d basically be obligated to attend Cheney’s “funeral” (I assume someone would have to come by later and put the stake in) what would he say in his eulogy?
Seebach
@Mike E: Trying to introduce the “Problem of Good”, eh? Well, Gnosticism has you covered. See: the demiurge isn’t all powerful, and manifestations of Sophia are still possible.
AnotherBruce
Umm, maybe I’m wrong here but isn’t John mixing up Ron Christie with Frank Gaffney?
I mean, who can blame him, so many wankers to keep up with.
Mike E
@Seebach:
Er, thanks.
KellyKK
What’s with the context-less post with no link? Is this atrios now?
Xero
Here’s video.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@AlanDean:
I got to the same point a few weeks ago. Everytime Ron Christie popped up on my tv I changed the channel. Lately I’ve been watching Seinfeld, The Office and My Name Is Earl on TBS before switching to the Bulls or Blackhawks.
arguingwithsignposts
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
How many Illinoisans are there here on BJ?
mistersnrub
@J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford:
Seinfeld, even after 100s of viewings, is more edifying than nearly every cable news program. Shame the Bulls are not looking so good. I say fire Vinny.
Soulless douchebags like Christie and Todd Harris are insufferable. It sickens me that “the news” has come to be just a forum for bullshit talking points from some “republican strategist” (i.e. a pr hack). It is a sad state of affairs when you can relate to those people in soviet-bloc countries who never trusted the official news.
Legalize
I’m so glad I don’t watch any of this shit any more.
GregB
I think it is high time that conservative affirmative action gets called out.
The African-American conservative voice is the most over represented in the media.
-G
arguingwithsignposts
Ron Christie says: “I think this is most radical, left-wing administration in US history.”
He’s obviously not reading these threads.
Zuzu's Petals
@Socraticsilence:
Just the thought that Darth would have to lie there and take it makes me smile.
JenJen
It’s always fun to be on Twitter when a Ron Christie segment commences.
That was just staggering, and painful, watching an apparatchik like Christie defend Cheney by lecturing a man about his own father. Ron Reagan always does a good job of keeping his cool during these moments, but man, was I cringing.
John O
If Ron Christie is on my teevee, the channel is switched, NOW.
Between Lieberman, Christie, Hair Nelson, McCain and daughter, Cheney, and a bunch of rich gasbags of all political stripes telling me about real America it’s a freaking miracle expatriation numbers aren’t higher. I cannot believe anyone gives a shit what these people say.
Maybe if we hire Palin things will be better.
John O
@arguingwithsignposts:
Chicago-born, rural suburban formative years, central IL for eddiecation, and NW ‘burbs post-eddiecation living with the GP’s at the place I was born so I could get a job.
I like IL, and I like Chicago a lot.
Beauzeaux
Dick Cheney is a toxic piece of filth whose poison still infects this nation.
I think you’re being far, far too easy on the man.
arguingwithsignposts
@John O:
So, central IL for education, I’m guessing C-U and the U of I, right?
transplanted IL here. I’m adjusting to the weather.
John O
@arguingwithsignposts:
Started at U of I, finished at IL St. One of few life’s regrets.
U of I was a better deal all in all, but I was just too young, stupid, and uninterested and/or arrogant to get that I couldn’t get along on brains alone. Plus, I was REALLY good at basketball and partying.
It was a LONG time ago…
arguingwithsignposts
@John O:
Small world here on BJ. I’ll be in Chicago in the next few months. We should have a drink sometime.
Darryl
Why would i want a link to hardball? I’d sooner watch a dog throw up.
arguingwithsignposts
@Darryl:
Actually, Ron Reagan is delightful in the segment. “Don’t go bringing up my father’s name …”
It’s awesome.
Garrigus Carraig
@Xecky Gilchrist: +1. Since we’re all gonna die, I think it’s ok to say that if I outlive him, Darth’s demise will fill me with real pleasure. Of about the timing & the means I’ll say nothing, but the eventuality itself? Hellz yeah.
John O
@arguingwithsignposts:
That would be fun as best I can tell from you posts, which is to say that it seems to me we are of similar wave-length, you should think I was funny and charming, you talk to me out here, etc. Hell, you’d probably think I was funny, and you would likely be all that stuff too.
I’m pretty easy to find. And Chicago at Christmas time is a very nice place to visit if you prepare properly.
John O
@Garrigus Carraig:
I feel the same way. It’ll be hard to avoid a, “we dodged an Anti-Christ bullet there, but we still have to accept him as a Disciple” post if nature takes its course in the natural order of things.
Napoleon
I can’t stand any of the right wing pundits on TV, but Christie is one of the few that if I saw him walking down the street there would be a pretty good chance I would deck him. I automatically turn the TV off when he comes on.
John O
@Napoleon:
I fantasize about running into Christie and spitting on him, just because I think I could turn it in to a net plus financially.
A despicable human being, and he knows it.
arguingwithsignposts
@John O:
I’ll have to look you up (it’s after the first of the year). There are a few other BJ commenters in Chitown – ellaesther being one, IIRC. We could have a midwest meetup. :D
We need those BJ t-shirts, though, to identify each other. (and we are all as funny and charming in person as we are on here.) :)
eric
we could even do a group BJ in Chicago, though we might to alter the phrasing slightly, or re-register as republicans….
eric
arguingwithsignposts
@eric:
Green Balloons!
Steve V
I really don’t think these righties believe a thing they’re saying. They’re just doing regular Overton Window maintenance, without any regard to what’s actually happening.
John O
Let’s do it!
(For the record, I would no way spit on Ron Christie if I ran into him, because he’d have to hit me first or do something similarly violent in front of witnesses and he wouldn’t do that because he’s too much of a pussy, nor do I actually “want” Darth to die, because I know there are people who love him for some effed-up reason.)
I’m easy to find, and we’d obviously have a lot of laughs.
eric
@arguingwithsignposts: lol…i used that in a conversation with a professional colleague and had to explain what it meant….it was in the context of the story isaw on tpm where the “gentleman” opposed same sex rights because of their deviant social practices. karmic retribution bitches. Also.
eric
arguingwithsignposts
@eric:
I would have loved to have been in on that convo. Balloon Juice, it’s a secret club with handshakes, or something. :)
those helicopters aren’t laughing.
jeffreyw
@arguingwithsignposts: Yo
BDeevDad
And wingnuts were deriding Nancy Reagan for supporting stem cell research. It’s funny that they know so much better what Ronnie would think than his actual family. So much for family values.
jrg
Holy shit, Dick Cheney and his minions are scumbags.
Although the whole “treason means whatever I want it to mean” explains a lot about the whole torture/secret prison/war based on lies stuff that happened during the Bush administration.
Ron Christie is a pretty foul “human being”, himself. If someone like him put words in my dead father’s mouth, I’d have to jam my thumbs in his eye sockets.
jnfr
Given that we are the Uber-Wonderful, Toughest, Strongest, Bestest Country in the World, it seems a bit …. defensive? wimpy? whiny? that they feel we must proclaim our wonderfulness at every occasion, and must never apologize when we have done something wrong, or show respect for any other country.
In my experience, the baddest hardass on the street doesn’t have to show it off every time. A gracious apology from the strongman can be useful in diplomatic relationships. And someone who knows they are on top doesn’t have to prove it at every moment.
These piddling, scared little people only show how little they believe in their own strength when they insist on dominance displays rather than confidence.
Dilbatt
Ron Christie could easily be replaced by a tape recorder playing the current Republican talking points. I, too, turn the channel the moment I see him on Ed or Tweety. I would rather watch PBS.
Joe
It’s time the tale was told. Ron Christie was my Honor Code Orienteer in college. It was his job to teach me and the other freshmen on the hall about the honor code, and how to fit it into our lives.
The thing to understand about Haverford in the late 1980s was how militantly PC the campus was. There was a lot of groupthink, and of course only one kind of perspective a black guy was supposed to have. Ron came from Palo Alto, and I think his family was from some money, and his pre-college life was a lot more like mine than that of the black kids who all sat together in the dining hall, and lived together in the Ira DeReid house.
So Ron said fuck it – I am who I am. The people who claim to speak for me don’t know me or my interests.
In the context of honor code discussions, Ron told me that while working for a GOP campaign back home in California, he wandered into the local Democratic challenger’s office and they made some immediate assumptions about him. He played along and went back to his campaign with inside information, but later felt bad about it and decided he wasn’t going to do that again.
Now Ron is rich, and he drives a nice BMW that he’s very proud of. He’s a lobbyist, and he’ll say whatever it takes to get himself more lobbying work. He’s not stupid – I can attest to this – but he’s not principled either. This makes him just like every other Republican blowhard, and I would not easily forgive him for it.
I think he’s failed to incorporate the lessons of the honor code in his life, but I also feel for the kid who was alienated and stuck up his middle finger.
Irony Abounds
Cheney’s breathing in that clip reminds me of Edward I (aka Longshanks) in Braveheart near the end of the film (he and Cheney share a love of torture and cruelty as well). To carry the analogy further, I would love for Mary Cheney’s partner to lean over Dick when Dick is on his deathbed (sooner rather than later please) and whisper that she has been inseminated with the sperm of Barak Obama. That would warm the cockles of my heart.
Rod Majors
Whenever Reagan Jr. begins to whoop them in an argument, they immediately bring his father into the debate. I believe another one of these chickenhawk fools (Frank somebody) even told him his dad would be ashamed of him on Hardball a few months back. Pathetic.
Ellen Kimball
Regarding Ron Reagan’s comparison with his father by others, as well as himself:
Progressive Radio Station KPOJ-AM 620 in Portland, Oregon, regularly runs a promo that mentions the Ron Reagan Show and adds, “WHAT would his FATHER think?”
Funnier than all get out. I listen to Ron Reagan whenever I can and think he’s one of the best talk hosts around.
Cordially,
Ellen Kimball
Ret. Radio Talk Host (also one of the first women to do this format in the U.S.)
Employed by WIOD (Miami, FL) WEEI and WMEX (Boston, MA)
replicnt6
Ron Christie puts the TOAD in Toady.
Texas Dem
Ron Christie may be a tool, but the coordinated and constant attacks from people like him are taking a real toll on Obama’s numbers. We need vigorous pushback from the left to defend this administration, but too many on the left would rather sulk over the (insignificant) public option than defend the administration from people who are dedicated to destroying it. When we’re watching President Palin address a Republican Congress in 2017, then liberals will really have something to complain about.
JoyousMN
I’ve had this stupid habit for the past 6 years or so. Whenever I hear of someone getting a fatal disease or dying before their time I find myself thinking, “And Dick Cheney goes on and on and on.”
Now I’ve got my husband doing the same thing. We were talking about someone who had died and my husband said, “And Dick Cheney…”
We both just laughed, but isn’t it a bitch?