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by John Cole|  December 26, 20098:21 am| 62 Comments

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Good morning, fellow O-bots. I hope you all have your decoder rings ready, as the message from Obama central should be getting here soon.

Also, Happy Boxing Day.

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  1. 1.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    December 26, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Good morning, Comrade! Decoder ring is set to receive incoming traffic from Dear Leader of the New World Caliphate.

  2. 2.

    valdivia

    December 26, 2009 at 8:36 am

    I am up and ready!

    In the meantime messages that conflict with our O-Bot programming: the new meme emerging as heard on NPR this morning is that we have seen an incredible rise in terrorist attacks in the last few months. They of course imply that this is Obama’s fault.

  3. 3.

    jeffreyw

    December 26, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Silliest damn thing I ever heard, day before xmas is boxing day, xmas is unboxing day, and today is box-in-the-trash day.

  4. 4.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    December 26, 2009 at 8:41 am

    I’ll have to recalibrate it first, Grover and his pet Hamster are interfering with the reception. The signal keeps fading in and out but I heard something about an aggressive thug of a president who is such a weakling that his Chief of Staff actually runs the country. Oh, and that he should be impeached.

    Also. Seeing lots of really poor spelling over at Kos lately, much like Hillaryis44, Confluence and No Quarter. Too.

    Oh well, that Hamster rat ain’t gonna fuck itself. Someone has to do it!

    Welcome back John. :)

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Happy Boxing Day backatcha! Boxing Day is one of the world’s great inventions. I’m going to stock up on cards, gift wrap and decorations at ridiculous deep discounts for next year, go see a movie matinee (A Single Man? Up in the Air? Nine? The Young Victoria? I love having so many good choices), and then this evening go to a Boxing Day knees-up hosted by a couple of expat Brit friends. Should be a good day.

  6. 6.

    calipygian

    December 26, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Excellent analysis of the critical battle of this years War on Christmas…with maps.

  7. 7.

    neal peart

    December 26, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Thanks for thinking of me John.

  8. 8.

    Redshirt

    December 26, 2009 at 8:51 am

    I love being an O-Bot. Cuz I love Obama! It’s so much more relaxing than the years 2001-2008.

    Personally, I think Obama has done a fantastic job in year 1. Solid A. Sure, he didn’t get everything done he wanted, but I think anyone with a hint of objectivity knows why: Because the Senate is dysfunctional and the Republican Party is insane.

    I hope the heck some people wake up – I don’t want 2012 to be another Clown War.

  9. 9.

    Keith G

    December 26, 2009 at 8:54 am

    @valdivia: Oy!

    Two mornings in an row I get Juan Williams on NPR. Baby Jesus is flippin da bird.

    The Detroit story interests me, though:

    Liquid injected into a powder-like (maybe) substance causing “popping noises” and a localized intense fire.

    As a senior in hs (an hour south of Detroit but in Ohio), some of my mates and I slipped into chem lab storage and made off with a fair amount of lump sodium. This was the laid-back 70s and though we caused a bit of popping and smoke filled mischief we never got caught.

    Mix sodium with water and depending on the amount, it pops and burns intensely, clinging to whatever the minor explosion has thrown it onto.

    We caused an impressive burn in a ceiling tile when a golf ball sized chunk was tossed into a toilet. The ceiling survived, the toilet was cracked. And after we were sure the ceiling was “out”. We quickly got out of there.

    I relate this just to note that there are a bunch of ways to cause fire, smoke and even explosions and lots of way for folks (both smart and not) to get this stuff.

    I will be interested to learn not only what was being used, but why someone who wanted to cause harm waited until the plane was so close to landing, especially if he knew he was using an incendiary and not necessarily an explosive device.

    Maybe he fell asleep. Maybe he wasn’t especially bright. It will be an interesting final week to 2009.

  10. 10.

    Annie

    December 26, 2009 at 9:03 am

    @valdivia:

    In addition to implying that it is all his fault, I heard and read this morning that Obama is paying too much for his vacation, that he did not go to church, and that the Obama family opened presents later in the day — and, somehow all of this also is connected to an increase in terrorism…

  11. 11.

    arguingwithsignposts

    December 26, 2009 at 9:09 am

    Smudge. happy boxing day.

  12. 12.

    Tomlinson

    December 26, 2009 at 9:10 am

    @Annie:

    In addition to implying that it is all his fault, I heard and read this morning that Obama is paying too much for his vacation, that he did not go to church, and that the Obama family opened presents later in the day—and, somehow all of this also is connected to an increase in terrorism…

    They’ve also shut down a portion of the beach. Very bad. My brother, who lives in Kailua, might be somewhat pissed except he’s an OBot. And he figures that every time the Obama’s vacation on his local beach, his property values go up, so he’s good with it. Typical OBot rationialzation.

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 9:11 am

    @Annie: Wait, the Obamas . . . WHAT? (I can hardly bring my fingers to form the words) . . . they opened their presents *later in the day*!!? Those terrorist-loving Christmas-hating traitors!

  14. 14.

    Tomlinson

    December 26, 2009 at 9:12 am

    I relate this just to note that there are a bunch of ways to cause fire, smoke and even explosions and lots of way for folks (both smart and not) to get this stuff.

    Laptop batteries being right at the top of the list.

  15. 15.

    Annie

    December 26, 2009 at 9:13 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    LOL!!!!!!

  16. 16.

    arguingwithsignposts

    December 26, 2009 at 9:16 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    So the global war on Christmas carries on unabated.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 9:17 am

    @arguingwithsignposts: Awww. Smudge is lovely. So relaxed and happy after her interlude as a Fierce Pirate. AAARGH Kitteh!

  18. 18.

    Maude

    December 26, 2009 at 9:25 am

    @Keith G: How long is it before everyone has to be in the airports nude and stay that way for the flight.
    We can have stupid terrorist stories to lighten up the day.

  19. 19.

    Redshirt

    December 26, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Frankly, the easiest solution would be to drug every airline passenger and then just fit us into lockable storage slots where we stay asleep for the duration of the flight. I would have chosen this willingly during the 38 hours in the air/airports coming back from Australia. It’s win-win!

  20. 20.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 9:30 am

    @awsp:

    So the global uppity war on Christmas carries on unabated.

    Fixed, because we all know what they *really* mean.

  21. 21.

    Emma

    December 26, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Y’all listen to NPR these days? And don’t turn bilious or develop ulcers?

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 9:51 am

    @Annie: You know, I can’t prove this is true, but it occurs to me that the Villagers, who of course operate on Eastern time zone clocks, might have seen a news report from the Hawaii White House that the Obama family were currently opening their presents (at, let’s say, 10:00 am local time) but because their own Village clocks were all set to 3:00 pm at that moment they decided it was “late in the day” for unwrapping gifts.

    Okay, maybe that’s not what happened, but they’re stupid and self-centered enough that it *could* be true. It would be irresponsible not to speculate . . . .

  23. 23.

    D-Chance.

    December 26, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Let me get this straight: a Nigerian who claims to have ties to Al Qaeda almost blows up an airliner in Detroit, and liberal bloggers are all bothered and upset at… Pete Hoekstra.

    Uh-huh.

  24. 24.

    bondwooley

    December 26, 2009 at 9:56 am

    If you’re killing some time this holiday weekend, waste a little with this week’s Lester & Charlie poll: If you could impose a New Year’s resolution on someone, who and what would it be?

    Imposed Resolutions

    (just for fun)

  25. 25.

    rachel

    December 26, 2009 at 10:01 am

    @D-Chance.: Let me get this straight:

    Idiot does something stupid! Other idiot says something stupid! Stupid troll *is* stupid! Film at 11:00! !

    Got it.

  26. 26.

    valdivia

    December 26, 2009 at 10:04 am

    yeah I don’t know why I bother with NPR is what my alarm clicks into. That gets me out of bed quick though to turn it off! Juan Williams did it for me this morning.

    Don’t you all get the sense that King and Hoesktra etc talk about how devastating the attack would have been because they are dying all that devastation didn’t happen so they can blame the president? And I find it funny that in terms of economics the President cannot take credit for what he averted but in terrorism if it didn’t happen it’s so close to happening that they have be lame him? Maybe its my O-Bot programming but all this just does not compute.

  27. 27.

    AkaDad

    December 26, 2009 at 10:06 am

    @D-Chance.:

    Let me get this straight: a Nigerian who claims to have ties to Al Qaeda almost blows up an airliner in Detroit, and liberal bloggers are all bothered and upset at… Pete Hoekstra.

    Yeah, because you can’t be upset about terrorism and at the same time be upset when a douchebag politician tries to politically exploit the situation.

  28. 28.

    D-Chance.

    December 26, 2009 at 10:08 am

    The Onion’s Top Ten Stories of the Past 4.5 Billion Years.

    *spoiler* Evolution is #1. The domestication of woman is #3…

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 10:17 am

    @bondwooley: Easy-peasey. I impose on John Cole a resolution to post a new picture of TUUUUUUNCH! every day of the year.

    I’m pretty sure I can talk asiangrrlMN into co-sponsoring.

  30. 30.

    Annie

    December 26, 2009 at 10:18 am

    @D-Chance.:

    Let me get this straight: a Nigerian who claims to have ties to Al Qaeda almost blows up an airliner….and once again a Republican Congressman tries to exploit the situation for his own political ends…

  31. 31.

    General Winfield Stuck

    December 26, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Good morning, fellow O-bots.

    Copious amounts of salt prevents spread of infection

  32. 32.

    Doctor Science

    December 26, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Today’s puzzle: Rest on the Flight.

    Yesterday’s book: The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, by John H. Watson, M.D..

    You can tell what movie we saw yesterday. Rating: Fun for the whole family, provides full helpings of just what it says on the tin. No pretense of deep meaning, fights and explosions, banter, level of male eye-candy: incandescent.

    Only downside: the main actresses, especially Kelly Reilly (who plays Mary Morstan), have crossed into the Uncanny Botox Valley for me. Seriously, I thought it was going to turn into a crossover with V, that she’d turn out to be a carnivorous lizard-alien wearing a human suit.

    Do people in Hollywood not notice any more that a frozen rictus is creepy, not beautiful? I’m not blaming the actresses, really , if “work” is the only way for them to get work — but in my innocence I’d think directors would want to have actresses who are physically capable of conveying emotion.

  33. 33.

    South of I-10

    December 26, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Someone help me with this chant: I must not feed the collarless black Lab at the back door. . .

  34. 34.

    Elie

    December 26, 2009 at 11:24 am

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Do you have a new kitteh?

    I have been off-line for the most part the last few days and see a “Smudge” referenced. If so, can you link me to a baby pic?

    Happy Holidays, too!

  35. 35.

    Elie

    December 26, 2009 at 11:26 am

    I should have posted this first:

    Lieutenant Elie Obot reporting for duty, sir, yes sir, aye aye and all that…

  36. 36.

    rachel

    December 26, 2009 at 11:30 am

    @South of I-10: Good luck with that, labs being the chowhounds they are and that good with the “pleasefeedmei’mstarvingtodeath!” look.

  37. 37.

    SGEW

    December 26, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Frankly, I find the “O-Bot” stuff kind of unsettling, even if it is self-aware/ironic/snark/pomo whatever. But that’s just me.

  38. 38.

    mattH

    December 26, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Eh, it’s just an ad for Ovaltine.

  39. 39.

    media browski

    December 26, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Anyone else remember the Mighty Orbots cartoon?

    A bit of Kahlua and coffee before the morning’s orders come down the Mass Rahmulator Device, and I’ll be ready to put on my jackboots and get back to undermining the progressive movement.

  40. 40.

    South of I-10

    December 26, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Damn it, I fed the dog. Anybody want a black lab?

  41. 41.

    Elie

    December 26, 2009 at 11:40 am

    @Redshirt:

    I know this day is coming…

    By the way, I am fully sympathetic for the painful time spent in airports and in the air on these horrible airplanes anymore. I just hate it…hate it…

  42. 42.

    Sanka

    December 26, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Something needs to be done about these Republicans and their anti-regulation, anti-middle class, pro-business policies:

    The two main issues concerning regulators were trading and clearing of swaps, which allow investors to bet on or hedge movements in currencies, interest rates and many other things. Swaps generally trade privately, leaving competitors and regulators in the dark about the scope of their risks. In November 2008, the chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee proposed forcing all derivatives trading onto exchanges, where their prices could be publicly disclosed and margin requirements imposed to insure that participants could make good on their market bets.

    But a financial-overhaul bill passed by the House of Representatives on Dec. 11 watered down or eliminated these requirements. The measure still allows for voice brokering and allows dealers to use alternatives to public exchanges.

    In an interview, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, who led efforts to craft the bill, defended the legislation, saying it is tougher than critics say. He said its clearing and trading provisions would require greater disclosure of trades and resulting risks, and give regulators more power to monitor and manage such risks.

    Clearly we need to vote for Barack Obama in 2008 and for the Democrats running in Congress to bolster their razor-thin majorities into super-duper majorities so the world can see that governing with Democratic principles can bring about real change and benefit the middle-class real change in Washington.

  43. 43.

    SIA aka ScreamingInAtlanta

    December 26, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Congrats South of I-10 on your new PUPPEH!!

  44. 44.

    General Winfield Stuck

    December 26, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Frankly, I find the “O-Bot” stuff kind of unsettling

    Good

  45. 45.

    mandarama

    December 26, 2009 at 11:45 am

    @Doctor Science:

    You can tell what movie we saw yesterday. Rating: Fun for the whole family, provides full helpings of just what it says on the tin. No pretense of deep meaning, fights and explosions, banter, level of male eye-candy: incandescent.

    Oh, goody. I want to see this, and was hoping the reviews would be positive! Thanks.

    I know what you mean about the Botox crowd. Last time I saw a pic of Meg Ryan, I was thinking, what’s wrong with her mouth? Turns out it’s excessive collagen injection. Ew.

  46. 46.

    mandarama

    December 26, 2009 at 11:46 am

    @South of I-10:

    Damn it, I fed the dog. Anybody want a black lab?

    Awww, I knew you would! Good on you, and merry Christmas to wise puppeh.

  47. 47.

    mandarama

    December 26, 2009 at 11:47 am

    @mattH:

    Eh, it’s just an ad for Ovaltine.

    A lousy commercial? SonovaBITCH!

    Such a classic.

  48. 48.

    burnspbesq

    December 26, 2009 at 11:49 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It is indeed a happy Boxing Day for supporters of the storied English football club Nottingham Forest (long story as to how I became one of those). At the midway point of the season, we are sitting in second place (well, for about the next 20 minutes or so – when West Brom finishes beating last-place Peterborough, we’ll be back in third). A return to our rightful place in the Premier League beckons.

    C’mon you REDS!!!!!

  49. 49.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 26, 2009 at 11:53 am

    @Elie

    @arguingwith signposts: “Do you have a new kitteh?”

    Is the Pope a tip-toy?

  50. 50.

    burnspbesq

    December 26, 2009 at 11:55 am

    @D-Chance.:

    Umm, explain to us all why your use of the word “almost” is anything but demagoguery and fear-mongering. The available facts do not support your assertion, by any stretch of the imagination.

    And Hoekstra is being an ass, plain and simple. Like I said, demagoguery and fear-mongering.

  51. 51.

    burnspbesq

    December 26, 2009 at 11:59 am

    @South of I-10:

    Sorry, you are about to be assimilated into the Laborg collective. Enjoy the ride.

  52. 52.

    South of I-10

    December 26, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    I am pretty sure there is a sign etched into my house somewhere that says, “Wait for the woman, she will feed strays”. The lab wandered up last night. Mr. South was outside enjoying the new fire pit he got for Christmas, I walk out and the Lab is sitting there by him. Of course, he didn’t feed the dog.

  53. 53.

    Midnight Marauder

    December 26, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    @SGEW:

    Frankly, I find the “O-Bot” stuff kind of unsettling, even if it is self-aware/ironic/snark/pomo whatever. But that’s just me.

    Your apprehension has been noted, citizen.

    /O-Bot…AWAAAAAYYYY!

  54. 54.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 26, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: SMUDGE! Cutest kitteh ever!

    @Maude: I’d be into that. I don’t particularly pay attention to all the security changes because I get stopped every time I fly. Even before 9/11, I did. I just build it into my time. Apparently, I look like a terrorist (and I dress up nicely when I fly, including covering up my tats).

    @South of I-10: I knew you would feed the poor doggy.

    I am not an O-bot, so do I still get to hear the secret message?

  55. 55.

    CalD

    December 26, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    O-bots? I thought all right-thinking people were supposed to be down on the O-man now, for failure to deploy the bully pulpit pony to bring us single-payer healthcare and with it, the severed head of Big Pharma. Or do we know for sure now that it’s Rahm Emanuel who’s been secretly pulling the levers? Perhaps he discovered the undisclosed location of Dick Cheney’s control center.

  56. 56.

    Elie

    December 26, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Thanks for referencing back to his photo of Smudge. What a doll baby!

    Warm regards to you and the new babe, ‘signpost’

  57. 57.

    eemom

    December 26, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I’ll see your O-bot, and raise you a Rahm-bot.

    Someone’s gotta root for the Evil Puppet Master of the President /Mastermind of FannieFreddie/Destroyer of the Public Option underdog.

  58. 58.

    licensed to kill time

    December 26, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Is the Pope a tip-toy?

    When I heard that news, I thought “Pope-tipping is the new fad? “

  59. 59.

    YellowJournalism

    December 26, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    “Be sure to drink your Ovaltine”

    I don’t know about you guys, but all I’m getting on my ring are these stupid commercials.

    (Damn, someone beat me to it! Never jump the reading before posting.)

  60. 60.

    KDP

    December 26, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I’ve nothing to report except that my Windows 7 install to a new partition (created with Easeus Partition Master) on my XP laptop went smooth as silk.

    The whole process took less than an hour, and the only hiccup so far is that I had to set encryption to optional for my VPN to work to function. Overall, it’s very cool, I like the new windowing interface, but I wish they’d left Quick Launch. I’m now simulated by adding desktop to the task bar. I’m liking this enough to consider keeping it as the primary OS on this computer.

  61. 61.

    Yutsano

    December 26, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I am not an O-bot, so do I still get to hear the secret message?

    When I get done decoding this week’s message I’ll share dear. I mean, that’s what you do in marriage, amirite?

  62. 62.

    KDP

    December 26, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    @South of I-10:

    Nice. I think mine would not care for the competition. I found, fed, and turned over to the local shelter a beautiful husky mix a couple of months ago. A real love he was too, I was walking my Shadow when he lolloped up to us and followed us home. Guess he knew a soft touch when he saw one. Poor baby was skin and bones.

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