I’ve always been a defender of Tim Tebow — he has every right to express his religiosity in the stupidest way possible, IMHO. But this makes me hate him:
Focus on the Family will air a 30-second “life- and family-affirming” television spot, featuring University of Florida star quarterback Tim Tebow and his mother, Pam, during the coverage.
The Colorado Springs-based media ministry shot the ad with the Tebows on Tuesday in Orlando, Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger said Friday. It is set to air before and again during the CBS broadcast of the football championship from Dolphin Stadium near Miami.
Focus on the Family is a scam led by an adult with a sick fixation with beating children. I can’t respect anyone who would do ads for them.
Chad S
Oh Christ, its going to be him telling the story of the doctors in the Philippines who told his mother to abort Tim because of complications due to illness. No matter how you come down on the abortion issue, using football success as a justification against abortion rights is about as douchy as it gets.
Jim
and politicizing an entertainment spectacle. Aren’t Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon officially Worse than Hitler for doing that?
Lit3Bolt
Tebow broke several NCAA records for circumcising Filipino infants during his career, so it’s not terribly surprising. Not to get all Sully (the patron saint of the uncut), but that is just a wee bit sick.
Demo Woman
In response to a previous poster I wrote Tebow’s mothers health was in danger and she decided to proceed with her pregnancy. To me that is called Pro-Choice.
She had the choice on whether or not to risk her life and she should not support taking away that right from others.
John Cole
Tbogg bait.
Bad Horse's Filly
@Demo Woman: Tebow’s mothers health was in danger and she decided to proceed with her pregnancy. To me that is called Pro-Choice.
She had the choice on whether or not to risk her life and she should not support taking away that right from others
This.
Punchy
Teebow can go fuck himself with a rusty nail. I’m soooooo sick of FU grads telling me what a hater I am. Teebow is a sanctimonious Jesus pusher with some great running skills and phony entitlement.
And now he’s proven this with a anti-abortion screed in conjunction with homophobic and likely sexist dirtbag con artists.
Jim
@Demo Woman:
amen
@John Cole:
heh
Ash
Wonder what sweet, virginal little Tim Tebow would do if he knocked up a girl.
http://i48.tinypic.com/29ntdhz.jpg
leinie
What Demo Woman said.
Chad S
@Jim: politicizing football is douchy, but Tebow’s sales pitch is that “if my mother had an abortion, you wouldn’t have enjoyed my play for Florida, so you should be against abortion.”
TR
Don’t worry. This is the last time you’ll be hearing from Tebow on an NFL Sunday.
Pasquinade
http://open.salon.com/blog/sunstone/2009/02/28/james_dobson_on_spanking_kids_and_beating_dogs
beltane
@TR: Amen. Now let us return to our regularly scheduled Dallas hating.
Bostondreams
(ducks down his two-time-working on the third Gator grad head while the spittle flies)
Not that the kid isn’t on the sanctimonious side…but me, I loved watching him play for the Pope.
Doesn’t mean I support his politics however.
mellowjohn
actually, the only time i enjoyed watching tebow play was in this year’s SEC final against alabama.
smiley
Tebow’s not a politician (yet) but I can hardly wait until the day he’s caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.
ajr22
Fuck Tebow. OT: I was reading people on Kos claiming RedState and Erickson were jamming Coakley’s phone lines. I thought this was a crime, am I wrong?
BillCinSD
There is no way this ad would be directly about abortion. The NFL dos not allow political advocacy ads.
Bostondreams
@mellowjohn:
He actually played pretty well in that game. The Gator ‘D’ however…ugh.
leinie
@beltane:
Dallas hating is *always* appropriate!
Ash
OT: I’m just waiting for Obama to bust out into song on this church thing on CNN…
The Grand Panjandrum
Isn’t Tebow short for next college QB about to fail in the NFL?
nalbar
Anybody else here hate the Cowboys? Anybody?
I am a fan of two teams, whoever is playing the Cowboys, and whoever is playing the Giants.
The Grand Panjandrum
@Bostondreams:
Yes, and his weeping ingenue was classic. Certainly worth an Emmy nomination.
AhabTRuler
Yes. Let’s go not-Cowboys! w00t!
Tokyokie
Oh Christ, its going to be him telling the story of the doctors in the Philippines who told his mother to abort Tim because of complications due to illness. No matter how you come down on the abortion issue, using football success as a justification against abortion rights is about as douchy as it gets.
I told the Filipino spousal unit about that story, and she called bullshit on two counts: 1) ultrasound wouldn’t have been available in the backwater where Tebow’s parents were working 20 years ago and 2) abortion is strictly illegal in the Philippines, even to save the life of the mother.
But hey, it’s OK to lie if you’re doing the work of the lord. (Actually, I lay this all on his parents, who’ve consistently told him a falsehood about the circumstances of his birth, and he’s too dumb and trusting to question it.)
Zifnab
@Chad S:
Success nothing. He lost to Alabama. I say his mother should have had the abortion. :-p
Do we get to see “Tim Tebow Cries On Camera Episode 2”? God, I hope so.
Notorious P.A.T.
Wow, no one could have foreseen this. This is why anti-Tebow people are anti-Tebow.
Dan Robinson
The problem with the “look at what God did for me crowd” is that the flipside of that idea is “look at what God did to you”. If your shit is bad, it is because God is punishing you for something.
These people believe that everything good that has happened to them has happened because they believe in God and because they work hard. I don’t have a problem with that except that they extend that line of thought to conclude that for those people who don’t have as much as they do don’t believe in the right God and don’t work hard.
These Godists think it is great that Tim Tebow puts bible verse references on his eyeblack, but would go apeshit if a devout Muslim football player put Quran references on his.
But football is just the opiate of the masses, so who really gives a shit?
Notorious P.A.T.
The same thing happened to Hitler’s mom.
Jim
@Dan Robinson:
I was thinking yesterday that every running back who points to the sky after a touchdown, every quarterback who mewls about Jeebus being with him all through the game (though I guess since Arizona and Kurt Warner lost we’ll be spared that, unless there’s something about Brees or Favre that I’m missing) should be fined 10K by the league, to go to Haiti. I’m an atheist, but I think I would find that shit even more offensive if I were a believer.
Jamey
#19
You forgot to add “/sarcasm” at the end of that…
Ash
@Jim: Seriously, that shit is ridiculous. Like god would pick sides between the Cowboys and Vikings. He wants them BOTH to lose, ya idjits.
New Yorker
Yes, but Brett Favre is one of the few people in football who is a bigger douche than Tim Tebow. I’m not even going to bother watching the game, I’m just going to think pleasant thoughts about how the winner gets 24 fewer hours to rest up than the Saints do, and have to travel to face said Saints team that looked about as good as a football team can look yesterday.
AhabTRuler
@Ash: Yeah, well then, where’s my asteroid, huh?
AhabTRuler
Sorry, but I’ll take an egomaniac over a extroverted god-botherer any day.
Ken
Another Gator-hater moment, courtesy of Pope Urban..
http://blog.gamecockcentral.com/2010/01/only-recruiting-rule-that-truly-matters.html
inkadu
Too bad there isn’t a way to tell which fetuses will be good at sports, so we know which ones to abort.
phantomist
Before I ask you about that last touchdown Tim, is there anything you would like to tell me about your mother’s uterus?
Digital Amish
@nalbar: If Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson were the starting backfield for the Vikings, I might consider rooting for the Cowboys. Maybe.
mr. whipple
F Dallas.
There, I feel better now.
The Republic of Stupidity
@The Grand Panjandrum:
I believe you have that right…
asiangrrlMN
Goooooo, Vikes! I can haz NFL Open Thread, plz? kthxbai.
mr. whipple
Colt McCoy is also waiting for his.
jb
I suspect that CBS may ultimately refuse to run this ad, as the networks have done in the past, refusing to run Super Bowl ads produced by MoveOn and PETA. Of course, they espoused liberal values, which are not values Jesus loves, so CBS probably won’t want to be perceived as being against Jesus.
Whether it runs or not, it works for Focus on the Family either way–they get the pub on Super Bowl Sunday, or they get to scream “censorship” for two weeks.
Interrobang
When Tim Tebow grows a uterus, I mean, the very instant it happens, I will fully support his right to have a vocal opinion on abortion. Until he’s actually in the position where he can find himself unexpectedly and unwantedly pregnant, he can STFU.
Martin
@John Cole:
Honestly, what in conservatism isn’t Tbogg bait these days?
Notorious P.A.T.
@inkadu:
Hahaha ) For sure.
themann1086
I hope the Cowboys go down in flames today. I despise them with every fiber of my being.
Oh, and F Tim Tebow. I hope the NCAA puts in a rule about messages like Tebow (and others) has been using; unless it’s about a fallen teammate or something similar, keep it out of there.
Oh, and F Urban Meyer. That’s pretty damn skeezy.
Nethead Jay
Can’t stand Tebow’s God-bothering douchebaggery and hooking up with Dobson’s unholy bunch takes it to a new low. I’m not rational when it comes to Focus on your own damn Family, I wish they would die in a fire for all the damage they’ve done.
This is another part of the Culture Wars, just like the textbook stupidity in Texas posted below and it’s important that it be called out and opposed whenever it rears it’s ugly head. Long-term, I’d actually say it’s one of the most important societal fights.
jwb
@asiangrrlMN: Yes, I’ve been looking around for the football thread.
The Republic of Stupidity
@Digital Amish:
Quite a trio…
Hmmm… perhaps they’ll go on tour together…
… and call themselves The Three Castrati™…
The Republic of Stupidity
@Nethead Jay:
In TOTAL agreement on that one… we either fight back or we end w/ a nation of underemployed, Bible-thumping, Gomer Pyle bobbleheads on our hands…
b-psycho
I honestly don’t understand how someone pullin’ bitches like that can maintain such Jeebus-freakery. Really I don’t.
BruceFromOhio
O/T: Cowboys D just got rolled and smoked by the Vikings. Now to see just how potent it was …
asiangrrlMN
@jwb: Just you and me, I guess. Gotta give credit where credit is due: Favre is having a hell of a game. So is Sidney Rice. 14 – 3, Vikes.
@b-psycho: Excuse me? Nice attitude.
SGEW
@b-psycho: Watch your fucking language, asshole.
BruceFromOhio
@asiangrrlMN: Now Vikings D is having its turn. Potent, indeed.
ETA: And the host has obliged with an NFL thread.
RSA
Whenever I need to make a hard moral decision, I always try to find a homeschooled 22-year-old to give me an authoritative answer.
Notorious P.A.T.
@b-psycho:
Life sucks.
Nethead Jay
@SGEW: Second that very much.
adolphus
As a current student at UF I feel compelled to point out that Tebow graduated in January and the football season is over. Technically, he is no longer a Gator.
It’s the only crumb I got, let me have it. heavy sigh……
asiangrrlMN
@SGEW: OK, you were much funnier than I was. Kudos.
b-psycho
@SGEW: At least somebody got it…
Yeah, I strongly doubt he resisted doing quite nasty things with those girls. For the image he’s trying to go with, those just scream out “ALL I CARE ABOUT IS BOOBS!!!”.
Notorious P.A.T.
Excellent choice!
ppcli
Among the problems with the “if my mom had had an abortion like people said she should, I wouldn’t exist” line, is that it carries over exactly into an argument against abstinence. No doubt we could find many successful people who could say truthfully: “if my mom had refrained from having sex in her sophomore year in high school like people said she should, I wouldn’t exist”. I am one of them. Does that mean there is a moral imperative for us to encourage teenagers to fornicate like bunnies the second they hit puberty? Is abstinence murder?
Bostondreams
@adolphus:
Please see me in Norman Hall. I have to revoke your membership in Gator Nation.
The Republic of Stupidity
@ppcli:
Well… according to some extreme fundies, even using a condom is tantamount to abortion, which is the same as murder… so I’m guessing yes…
‘Course, that would make
thousandsmillions of teenage boys all over the country mass murderers…parksideq
@nalbar:
What about when it’s Giants v. Cowboys? Your head must asplode at the thought…
Darryl
@John Cole: I just checked out this TBogg fella. His writing style…I’m finding it a bit hard to read.
smiley
@Bostondreams: Beat me to it. Once a Gator, always a Gator. Even Steve Spurrier, the current coach of a rival school still calls himself a Gator.
socraticsilence
As a lifelong Gator, the one slightily mitigating factor with Tebow’s god-bothering has been that’s he actually lived it- I mean he seems to actually do this stuff, instead of simply mouthing pieties and living it up.
Mark
@Jim/32 –
I have come to not be bothered so much by the god stuff. A guy like Tebow was blessed with tremendous natural ability; he merely seeks an explanation for it. Of course, it would be better if he attributed it to his parents or randomness…But it would be far worse if he was a Randian.
maus
@jb:
The ad-market was also healthier.
Cassidy
@socraticsilence: People seem to forget that Tebow is one of the few Christians who actually does the things he believes in. But of course, since he is a believer, he’s denigrated right from the start. I’d like to see some links where he’s gone off on rants on homosexuals or any of the other hatemongering stuff.
The Republic of Stupidity
But… Timmeh has no problem aligning himself w/ as severe and hateful a homophobe as Dobson…
***eyes roll…***
Bob In Pacifica
According to scientists half of the pregnancies are naturally aborted, usually before the woman even knows she is pregnant. That would make God (or Mother Nature, whoever you believe in) the Greatest Abortionist of All. Six and a half billion abortions just counting the folks walking around. Go back and count all the people that ever lived, all the way back to six thousand years ago, and that’s a fuckload of abortions.
Bob In Pacifica
It has to be a very bizarre matchup for me to root for the Cowboys (I’ve hated Dallas since JFK got offed there), but I do find Kurt Warner one player I root against when he goes God on ya. Last off-season he came to the Niners to negotiate but then announced that “God gave him a sign” that he should resign with the Cardinals. God must have known how much the Niners’ offensive line would suck this year.
Bobby Thomson
Look, I have culted out family that are in with the Dobsonites and hate FotF as much as anyone else, but it seriously took this for you to realize that Tebow is an asshole?
Cassidy
@The Republic of Stupidity: And Obama was friends with an unrepentant terrorist….
Don’t be a hypocrite. It isn’t attractive.
Comrade Darkness
@Ash: don’t play that video, it makes me think for a fraction of a second that there might be a god. OR, there might be Job’s god, more likely, which could be even more entertaining in some ways than no god.
Comrade Darkness
@Cassidy
Mindlessly parroting long-since disputed total bullshit is one hell of a discourse technique. Really props up your position. Let me guess, catholic school?
Or were you suddenly discussing Bank CEOs? Or St. Ronnie funding and arming al qaeda in afghanistan? Or St. Ronnie funding and arming Saddam Hussein…
Cassidy
@Comrade Darkness: God you’re an idiot. Okay, stay with me….Tebow has not done anything. He is mocked and ridiculed by the confederacy of dunces that makes up John’s followers simply because he is unabashedly Christian. So, if the only thing anyone has got is some sort if guilt by association, aka dobson, then we already know how idiotic that is.
HyperIon
Please do not confuse hating on Gators with loathing Tebow.