Adding to what DougJ stated in response to Kos, I’d like to point out I specifically have stated numerous times that I don’t blame progressives or the progressive wing of the party for the mess we are in. I actually think they are right about the policy- as I have said before:
And remember, one of the reasons progressives and liberals are so rightly pissed is that the house bill was no real piece of hard left legislation. It was at best itself a very moderate piece of work, paid for, with no single payer, no government takeover of healthcare ala the NHS, built on the existing insurance infrastructure, and was so moderate that the House bill could have been something Republicans would have passed thirty years ago.
And then it went to the Senate, with the arcane procedural hoops, the ridiculous rules and vote requirements, complete with 60 preening and insufferable egos, all wealthy in their own right and heavily insured, and they took forever passing a bill that basically is so conservative that were the Republicans not all teabagging insane would pass today. Hell, if the Republicans were in power and thought it would get them some votes, we would probably be cheering them for passing the Senate bill, it is so responsible compared to their prescription drug giveaway during the Bush era.
So while I have been testy and angry with progressives, it is because I simply do not see the way forward and have never seen the votes there for reconciliation and the logic of just scrapping everything and starting over and somehow magically getting to a liberal bill, not because I think they are wrong on the policy.
I don’t think the 51 votes are there to “fix” portions of the bill in reconciliation, no one has ever shown me anything convincing that there are 51 votes in the Senate for the public option, and at this point, given the events of the last week, I bet a number of Senate Democrats would be thrilled if the House kills their bill. Pressuring house members to kill the Senate bill without pressuring the Senate to enter reconciliation, with the hopes that it will just happen, or hoping that you kill the Senate bill in the House and there will be a “do-over” and there will all of a sudden be the willpower to start over on HCR, let alone a bill that is more acceptable to the House will be passed in the Senate is what we call MAGICAL FUCKING THINKING. If it puts a knot in a couple progressive activists knickers to hear that, I’m sorry.
While progressives aren’t responsible for how we got here, progressives will have to accept their share of the blame if the Senate bill is killed and nothing else is done on HCR (which we all know will be the case). After all, it isn’t me calling House members and telling them to vote against the bill while failing to pressure the Senate to work with the house. If the Senate bill dies, that is it for HCR. Period.
Unless you still think we will be greeted as liberators.
And also, the point of my original post was that Ed was a bloviating jackass who took a private conversation public for the sole reason of pumping up his ratings. Public spitball fights aren’t helping the policy Ed is “fighting” for, they help his ratings. Nothing else.