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You are here: Home / Ain’t nothing like the real thing

Ain’t nothing like the real thing

by DougJ|  January 28, 201010:29 pm| 101 Comments

This post is in: General Stupidity, Good News For Conservatives

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This is going into tomorrow’s Washington Post reporter chat, pretty close to word-for-word:

Isn’t it fascinating that the lengthy, amplified, magnified speech of the most powerful man in the world with his big captive audience — in the magnificent room and in smaller rooms all over the country — are outweighed by one man’s headshake and silent mouthing of 2 or 3 words?

And isn’t it ironic that, right when we saw the judge’s minimalist expression that overwhelmed the President’s torrent of words, Obama was railing about the “powerful interests” that would use their great wealth to speak far too much during election campaigns?

Someday, I’m going to learn to write like this, no matter how much box wine I have to drink.

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  1. 1.

    horatius

    January 28, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Doug,

    You have it the wrong way around. It’s exactly the consumption of a lot of box wine that causes such garbage to spew out of your mouth.

  2. 2.

    DougJ

    January 28, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    It’s exactly the consumption of a lot of box wine that causes such garbage to spew out of your mouth.

    That’s what I was trying to say.

  3. 3.

    Penon

    January 28, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Someday, I’m going to learn to write like this, no matter how much box wine I have to drink.

    That was sarcasm, yes?

  4. 4.

    soonergrunt

    January 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    I couldn’t drink enough box wine to make Alchouse coherent.
    If there’s enough box wine in the world (which is doubtful) it take all of it, and I would die of alcohol poisoning before I could drink enough for it to make sense.
    The commenters over there are their own special brand of crazy. Maybe that’s where all the bad wine went.

  5. 5.

    DougJ

    January 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    That was sarcasm, yes?

    No. What she wrote was so brilliant in its stupidity that I admire it.

  6. 6.

    General Winfield Stuck

    January 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Isn’t it fascinating that the lengthy, amplified, magnified speech of the most powerful man in the world with his big captive audience — in the magnificent room and in smaller rooms all over the country — are outweighed by one man’s headshake and silent mouthing of 2 or 3 words?

    Still not good as Death Panels for Health Care debate.

  7. 7.

    handy

    January 28, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Someday, I’m going to learn to write like this, no matter how much box wine I have to drink.

    I think it takes having a very dark, toxic center in one’s heart to write like this, and to keep doing so.

  8. 8.

    Sanka

    January 28, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    You Lie, Mr. President.

    You Lie.

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    January 28, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Careful. The wrath of Althouse is an awful thing to behold.

    -dms

  10. 10.

    handy

    January 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    @Sanka:

    St. Jane is really working that spot as the fifth face on Mt. Rushmore, isn’t she.

  11. 11.

    beltane

    January 28, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Not box wine, but brown acid. Do not take.

  12. 12.

    CalD

    January 28, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Evil.

  13. 13.

    BR

    January 28, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    @Sanka:

    I am so looking forward to Al Giordano’s takedown of Hamsher and her ilk. (As many of you probably know, Al has been digging into her PAC’s financial statements and may have found some good stuff.)

  14. 14.

    Cat Lady

    January 28, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Calling out SCOTUS seems to have created some unhinging. She’s lost her shit.

  15. 15.

    JGabriel

    January 28, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    DougJ:

    Someday, I’m going to learn to write like this, no matter how much box wine I have to drink.

    It’s not the box wine alone, one must maintain one’s self in a rarefied atmosphere as well — something a little nitrous-y.

    .

  16. 16.

    Violet

    January 28, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Isn’t it fascinating ridiculous that after the State of the Union address, the media only wants to focus on the lengthy, amplified, magnified speech of the most powerful man in the world with his big captive audience — in the magnificent room and in smaller rooms all over the country — are outweighed by one man’s a Supreme Court Justice’s headshake and silent mouthing of 2 or 3 words?

    Fixt.

  17. 17.

    Svensker

    January 28, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Lengthy, amplified, magnified….

    Froggy little native boys in leather aprons. Yes. Yes, they were, and yes, I said. Yes, yes, yes.

    Who knew Althouse was a member of FST?

  18. 18.

    Bruce (formerly Steve S.)

    January 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Isn’t it fascinating that the lengthy, amplified, magnified speech of the most powerful man in the world with his big captive audience — in the magnificent room and in smaller rooms all over the country — are outweighed by one man’s headshake and silent mouthing of 2 or 3 words?

    If by “fascinating” he means a banal observation about the vacuousness of American political discourse, correct.

  19. 19.

    drew42

    January 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    … lengthy, amplified, magnified speech … his big captive audience … the President’s torrent of words …

    Yes, Ann. It’s called the State of the Union address. We have one every year — just like Christmas!

  20. 20.

    General Winfield Stuck

    January 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Ann writes purdy, but usually only finishes half her thought, as it were.

  21. 21.

    suzanne

    January 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Come on, everybody. Alito was obviously thrusting his tits, uh, POSING for the camera.

  22. 22.

    Wilson Heath

    January 28, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    What the hell is wrong with her? Besides everything? Is it just the years of wine-box damage to the brain?

  23. 23.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 28, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    It’s not how much or how loud you speak that counts, is it?

    Clearly not, Anne…

    It’s how inane, idiotic, or pedantic you can be….

  24. 24.

    General Winfield Stuck

    January 28, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    … lengthy, amplified, magnified speech … his big captive audience … the President’s torrent of words …

    Who wants whatever Ann is having?

  25. 25.

    Martin

    January 28, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    So, Jane’s argument is essentially that Obama is not allowed to talk to anyone outside of government without notifying her first? Really? She’s getting into birther territory…

  26. 26.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    January 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Ann Althouse. Idiot.

  27. 27.

    Spork

    January 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    DougJ, no false modesty please. You managed to fool the entire BJ community for years. You have troll skills like Hoyce Gracie has Jujitsu. You can write like this, you can do better. I believe in you.

  28. 28.

    handy

    January 28, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Sorry, I don’t dig on shrill.

  29. 29.

    beltane

    January 28, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: Just because Ann enjoys a little angel dust sprinkled on her Froot Loops doesn’t mean you have to. That’s some marvelous beat poetry she writes, a “Coney Island of the Mindless” for the twenty-first century.

  30. 30.

    drew42

    January 28, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    I love how Ann can never tell the difference between a genuinely insightful thought, and the regurgitation of a media narrative that’s been driven into her skull over the past 24 hours. It’s adorable.

  31. 31.

    Ash Can

    January 28, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    This is going into tomorrow’s Washington Post reporter chat, pretty close to word-for-word

    They might decide to make you the newest editorial-page rising star on the spot when they read it. And you wouldn’t even have to go through the trouble of entering some stupid-ass contest.

  32. 32.

    beltane

    January 28, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    @Martin: Jane Hamsher and Orly Taitz do bear a striking resemblance to one another.

  33. 33.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 28, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Who wants whatever Ann is having has?

    Uhhhhh… the hallucinations look pretty entertaining, but has modern medicine come up with a cure for it yet?

  34. 34.

    matt

    January 28, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Please, someone who is good at it (and can be bothered to register), place some snark here. Laziest reporting ever:

    Justices are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.

  35. 35.

    Violet

    January 28, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    And isn’t it ironic

    Alanis Morissette wants to remind Ann that all the wine boxes in the world don’t give her an excuse to steal other people’s copyrighted material.

  36. 36.

    General Winfield Stuck

    January 28, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    @beltane: I used to watch her webcasts for kicks. And laughs.

  37. 37.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 28, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    @drew42:

    I love how Ann can never tell the difference between a genuinely insightful thought reality, and the regurgitation of a media narrative that’s been driven into her skull over the past 24 hours voices in her head. It’s adorable.

    That is what you meant to say, no?

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    January 28, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    @Violet: Worst part? I could see her suing DougJ just for lifting her refuse quotation out then using it in a WaPo chat.

  39. 39.

    Colette

    January 28, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    I am Ann Althouse, bitchez! Fear my torrent of, um, something torrential. And torrid. Or was that tortured? Or torpid? Or turgid? Oh dear, I do get so confused. Waiter, another torr – er, martoni. Tortini. Whatever.

    Colette +3

  40. 40.

    General Winfield Stuck

    January 28, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I could see her suing DougJ just for lifting her refuse quotation out then using it in a WaPo chat.

    Man, that would be so cool. We could start a Dougj defense fund and have some our legal eagles defend Dougj and have a non stop proxy blog war with the cretins that comment on her blog.

  41. 41.

    Violet

    January 28, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    @Yutsano:
    Yep. DougJ probably wants to be a little careful with that. She’s a mean one.

  42. 42.

    freelancer (itouch)

    January 28, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    @Yutsano:

    That would actually be the most awesome and funny thing ever! LGM would probably fly one of themselves in to help DougJ pro bono. And the blogosphere reacts would be priceless. Sue! Althouse! Sue!

  43. 43.

    Ronald Wilson Reagan

    January 28, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    @DougJ

    Someday, I’m going to learn to write like this, no matter how much box wine I have to drink.

    It’s not the box wine that causes Ann to write like this, it’s her habit of making coolers out of Franzia, high fructose corn syrup and Sterno that causes Ann to write like this. It’s the same combo that Barbara Bush used to imbibe when she was pregnant with George W.

  44. 44.

    Robertdsc-iphone

    January 28, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    I think someone would gave to mainline a 55-gallon drum of wine to write like that. But that’s all she & her ilk can come up with after the beating the GOP took last night. Own your bankrupt policies, bitches!

  45. 45.

    Yutsano

    January 28, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    @freelancer (itouch): GWS has a point though, we have more than enough legal eagles as part of our commentariat that I’m certain would be more than pleased to lend their services to his cause should it become necessary. Plus anything that costs her money can’t be all that bad.

  46. 46.

    cleek

    January 28, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    don’t give althouse the attention.

    negative attention is still attention.

  47. 47.

    twolaneflash

    January 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    It’s a bag o’wine. The box just makes it easier to stack several vintages on top of each other in the fridge. June was a good vintage.

  48. 48.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    January 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    They might decide to make you the newest editorial-page rising star on the spot when they read it.

    Or CNN might pick you to join the World’s Best News Team or whatever. Say hi to Erik Erikson and don’t forget us when you hit the big time.

  49. 49.

    Ash Can

    January 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    @Colette: OK, I know that was a good-sized wine glass you were holding in that recent photo. But I know that when you order wine in those things they don’t get filled up even half way. What the hell kind of favors are you bestowing upon that bartender to get him to fill your glasses all the way up? And with vodka, yet??

  50. 50.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 28, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    @cleek:

    negative attention is still attention.

    Indeed… that’s also the problem w/ Fox. Fox’s core audience really isn’t THAT big, in spite of what some folk like to claim. Beck draws what, a little over 4MM on a good night? That’s just a little over 1% of the population.

    What really makes Fox seem like it’s everywhere is the secondary chatter… the endless parsing and repeating, no matter how derogatory. The so-called MSM does more to spread Fox’s message than Fox could ever do.

  51. 51.

    danimal

    January 28, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    OMG, it’s been a while since I visited the toxic sewer sludge also known as Ann’s comment section. These folks are delusional. Wow.

  52. 52.

    frigg

    January 28, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Jeez…is “irony” too hard a notion to understand?

    Again with the “irony,” … frosh railing against “irony,” never actually getting what irony is.

    Check a style manual … then a dictionary. Idiot.

    They just award degrees to anyone, don’t they.

    Learn your language.

  53. 53.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    January 28, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Oh man, classic Colbert on right now.

  54. 54.

    Ronald Wilson Reagan

    January 28, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    @Sanka:

    What is it about today’s conservatives that causes them to post links to back up whatever infantile point they’re trying to make without actually reading the article they linked to. From the fine article.

    UPDATE: Dave Johnson from Seeing the Forest emails that the Hill article is a mischaracterization of the call:

    I joined two of these calls. The invite came to me through a progressive organization. They were not secret. They were not organized by the Treasury Dept. There were no “lobbyists” asking questions on the calls unless you consider progressive organizations that are C4s to be “lobbyists”.
    __
    The calls were following up with details on specific issue areas from last night’s speech. Nothing more.
    __
    I have been very critical of Obama in the past and continue to believe that having Geithner in the Cabinet undermines his Presidency and progressives. But this story is completely false and is clearly intended to undermine the Obama Administration’s credibility with progressives.

    In retrospect my eleventh commandment, which I, as you kids say today, threw under the bus in my 1976 campaign (and which wasn’t mine to begin with) should have been “We need dumbasses to vote for us, but that doesn’t mean that we should let them run the party.” instead of “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican”.

  55. 55.

    Ash Can

    January 28, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    @Notorious P.A.T.: Methinks they had Erick on because they (rightly) pegged him as an easy mark.

  56. 56.

    Ash Can

    January 28, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    @frigg: Izzat you, Ann? Have yourself a nice pot of strong, black coffee and get back to us. kthxbi.

  57. 57.

    mr. whipple

    January 28, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    UPDATE: Dave Johnson from Seeing the Forest emails that the Hill article is a mischaracterization of the call:

    Egg on face. Again.

    Shocking!

  58. 58.

    darryl

    January 28, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    The commenters over there are their own special brand of crazy. Maybe that’s where all the bad wine went.

    I actually can’t even read the comments on mainstream sites like NYT blogs, anymore, because the right-wingers are so tarded. Thanks to the rise of the internet, and the Southern Strategy, a large percentage of online commentary comes from people I wouldn’t hire to drive a paper route.

    Center-left blogs, like Balloon Juice, Washington Monthly, Yglesias, etc, are now about the only places I can tolerate. Witness the recent Evan Bayh quote that Obama is practical and reasonable, which makes him too left-wing for America.

    Evolution: untrue!
    Global Warming: worldwide conspiracy among thousands of scientists.
    Deep recession: we need an immediate spending freeze!
    Teen Pregnancy? Let’s not tell them about condoms and birth control!

    If I want to know the right-wing opinion about a subject, I just think of the stupidest possible opinion, and 80% of the time, that’s it.

  59. 59.

    Comrade Mary

    January 28, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Althouse has obviously been sharing the good shit with Hamhser.

  60. 60.

    Ailuridae

    January 28, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    @drew42:

    Yes, Ann. It’s called the State of the Union address. We have one every year—just like Black Wednesday!

    FYP. Focus on things Ann understands.

  61. 61.

    DonBelacquaDelPurgatorio

    January 28, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    I dont get it. The linked post and its following comments are the biggest crock of shit I have seen in a long time.

    Alito’s mumble “overshadowed” Obama? In what parallel universe of horse manure?

    William Buckley could write lovely stuff, but he was completely full of shit most of the time.

    You just say what you mean, Doug, and you don’t worry about whether you are going to impress the creative writing teacher. Which is all you ever need to do, right?

  62. 62.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 28, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    @danimal:

    OMG, it’s been a while since I visited the toxic sewer sludge also known as Ann’s comment section. These folks are delusional. Wow.

    And pleased w/ themselves, to boot…

    Says The Dust Bunny Queen…

    What the Court did was to give BACK free speech to everyone, including corporations.

    Really, Queenie? INCLUDING corporations?

    Including foreign govts & multinationals?

    One dollar, one vote?

    Soooooooooo… a Middle Eastern oil company now has equal free speech rights to me?

  63. 63.

    burnspbesq

    January 28, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Want what Althouse is having? YGBFKM.

  64. 64.

    darryl

    January 28, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    negative attention is still attention.

    I teach at a middle-school/high school, and you wouldn’t believe how true that is. Half my day is trying to figure out constructive ways with this particular asshole kid who is only an asshole because he has deeply absorbed this lesson.

    I sympathize with the liberal movement thinking that different teaching methods and constructs can fix things, but at the same time, I’m deeply aware that a lot of really destructive behavior comes from the abuse and neglect at home, which produces behaviors that my few hours with them can’t overcome. By the time kids get to me, when they’re 14, I’m not an engineer who can reconstruct a good life for them. At best, I’m an educational EMT who can stop the arterial bleeding and get them to occasionally sit still enough to graduate.

    Worst of all, I have to practice triage. When I have a classroom of 30 kids, who have to take the statewide test in 2 months to graduate, and I’ve got for instance a kid sitting in the back row who’s been beaten so many times by his momma’s boyfriend that he can’t even respond to an older male talking to him, WTF am I supposed to do?

    It’s a huge mess.

  65. 65.

    Yutsano

    January 28, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    @Ash Can: We all saw pictures. Colette definitely has the feminine wiles Force strong in her.

  66. 66.

    28 Percent

    January 28, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    DougJ if that is your real name it is just like you ELITES with your books and degrees and youre fancy traveling to make fun of a DOWN TO EARTH person like Ms. Althouse. You should get out of the UNIVERSITYS and experience the REAL WORLD and then maybe you would understand how it feels. Ms. Althouse and other REAL AMERICANS all know that it is a great thing when a great man like Justice Joe Alito speaks TRUTH TO POWER that used to be what you LIEBERALS claimed to stand for but now you do not even pretend. You and your “Messiah” should stop being so arrogant and try to be humble and respect what Joe the Justice and Ms. Althouse have to say they have studied and are scholars and know what they are talking about which is COMMON SENSE and FREEDOM. If you would shut up and know you’re place maybe you would learn something about it but I do nothink you will.

  67. 67.

    Yutsano

    January 28, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    @28 Percent: Spoof or word salad? One can honestly never tell anymore.

  68. 68.

    Comrade Kevin

    January 29, 2010 at 12:00 am

    @Yutsano: spoof. “DougJ if that is your real name” is a dead giveaway.

  69. 69.

    Violet

    January 29, 2010 at 12:02 am

    @28 Percent:
    Hey, look! The Wingnut Comment Generator is working again!

  70. 70.

    demo woman

    January 29, 2010 at 12:02 am

    @Yutsano: spoof.. Ann is a law professor and I think that the intent of the rant actually has more to do with Ann hiding under her desk with her wine box than anything else.

  71. 71.

    darryl

    January 29, 2010 at 12:02 am

    What I’m happy about is that unlike some countries, the US has a good community college system. When you screwed up in high school, screwed up in your teens, when you get your shit together and want to get back into a productive life, the CC system lets you do that. There are some countries, France in particular, where if you screw up as a teenager, you have very little hope later on. I didn’t get my act together until I was 23. Eventually went on to get a tech degree at a university. That’s not possible in some western countries. The US still has a system where you can have a second chance. And I like that.

  72. 72.

    Ailuridae

    January 29, 2010 at 12:04 am

    @darryl:

    Balloon-juice is only a “center-left” blog in a universe in which being a progressive blog means rejecting incremental progress because it doesn’t exactly align with your progressive ideals. This, here, is a progressive blog.

    Ailuridae +2

  73. 73.

    Ailuridae

    January 29, 2010 at 12:06 am

    @28 Percent:

    New Rule, please. Doug can’t spoof within his own threads.

  74. 74.

    Mark S.

    January 29, 2010 at 12:06 am

    @28 Percent:

    Gotta be a spoof. If not, 28%, you do know what Althouse does for a living, don’t you? She works at one of those UNIVERSITYS.

  75. 75.

    darryl

    January 29, 2010 at 12:07 am

    The corporations as persons argument…I recommend you all watch a movie, it’s available online, I think called The Corporation, which outlines the horrible negative consequences of that. Corporations are required to do what’s the most financially beneficial thing, with no other considerations. In an actual human being, subjugating all other motives to the profit motive would be considered psychopathological. So our system encourages psychopathic entities. It’s a large part of how fucked up we’ve gotten, though the fix isn’t clear.

  76. 76.

    DougJ

    January 29, 2010 at 12:08 am

    I’m not 28%. I gave up my alternative identities when I became a poster.

  77. 77.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    January 29, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Thank you, 28 Percent. I quite enjoyed that.

  78. 78.

    Ailuridae

    January 29, 2010 at 12:11 am

    @darryl:

    Agreed but the system in a lot of other Western nations is more vicious than that, I think. In a lot of nations outside of the US the decision to allow a student to pursue a profession or even a non-trade college degree seems to be made in the early teens.

    I had a lot of friends who basically got their shit together academically as juniors, had three semesters of solid school work and good scores and went on to good but not great schools back in NY. At 15 or 16 elsewhere after spending the equivalent of junior high getting stoned and skipping class those kids are straight up fucked.

  79. 79.

    Ash Can

    January 29, 2010 at 12:11 am

    @DougJ:

    I gave up my alternative identities when I became a poster.

    So is that what happened to BIRDZILLA? Dang.

  80. 80.

    donr

    January 29, 2010 at 12:18 am

    To my great amusement, Eugene Volokh thought that Althouse was spewing forth great wisdom here. I know that Althouse usually writes nonsense – but from now on my rule of thumb is that when Volokh links to her, she must be writing more nonsensically than usual.

  81. 81.

    Midnight Marauder

    January 29, 2010 at 12:19 am

    @28 Percent:

    You make me smile. And just to complete the word salad, let’s take a look at all the “randomly” capitalized words (who knows? maybe this is like wingnut National Treasure or something):

    ELITES
    DOWN TO EARTH
    UNIVERSITYS (ed. note: Hilarious on so many levels. So many.
    REAL WORLD
    REAL AMERICANS
    TRUTH TO POWER
    LIEBERALS
    COMMON SENSE and FREEDOM (ed. note: Equally hilarious. I guess “and” doesn’t get the same deference as COMMON SENSE and FREEDOM.)

    @DougJ:

    I’m not 28%. I gave up my alternative identities when I became a poster.

    Dubious.

    +4

  82. 82.

    danimal

    January 29, 2010 at 12:31 am

    @DougJ:

    I’m not 28%. I gave up my alternative identities when I became a poster.

    Except an occasional BoB comment, right DougJ?

  83. 83.

    Paul

    January 29, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Yes, Ann, Justice Alito was like a strapping young David taking down President Obama’s fearsomely long-winded, electioneering Goliath. Or something. As usual, I can’t figure out what her fucking point is.

  84. 84.

    sab

    January 29, 2010 at 1:06 am

    I’m a mid-western accountant who leans progressive (although accountants are all supposed to be Republican tea-partiers.) The ten-key calculator hasn’t fried my brain completely yet, because I still remember by college econ courses where Keynes not Friedman was the heavyweight.

    I was pretty wowed by Obama’s SOTU address, although I’m an Obama supporter so I’d pretty much heard most of this before and wasn’t surprised by anything, because the guy is nothing if not consistent. He pretty much laid out his general program that he has been supporting forever.

    I was really excited at work because my Independent/Republican teaparty boss was really impressed with the speech. He didn’t vote for Obama, but he felt that the President addressed a lot of his concerns, which is unusual in his experience.

    He listened to it in the office and went home late because he didn’t want to miss any of the speech.

    I tried to listen to the speech on the internet and had to switch to my bedroom radio because of the heavy traffic.

    People are listening to this president. Maybe we should get his back for a while and support him, instead of sniping in the background.

  85. 85.

    Ronald Wilson Reagan

    January 29, 2010 at 1:07 am

    @28 Percent:

    great man like Justice Joe Alito speaks TRUTH TO POWER that used to be what you LIEBERALS claimed to stand for but now you do not even pretend. You and your “Messiah” should stop being so arrogant and try to be humble and respect what Joe the Justice and Ms. Althouse have to say they have studied and are scholars and know what they are talking about which is COMMON SENSE and FREEDOM. If you would shut up and know you’re place maybe you would learn something about it but I do nothink you will.

    Another one who apparently doesn’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re” or between Joseph Alioto, who was mayor of San Francisco when I was governor, and Samuel Alito, a current associate justice of the Supreme Court who was one of Ed Meese’s boytoys during my administration.

    Now normally I don’t have a problem with that sort of thing, I mean I invited Roy Cohn to the White House and despite what he thought everyone knew that he was queer as a three dollar bill, and I got along with Terry Dolan whose work with NCPAC helped me get elected in 1980, but there was something about the relationship between Alito and Meese that really creeped everyone out. It’s hard to describe exactly what made it so creepy but I’m going to try. Remember the TV show Leave it to Beaver? Great show. OK, now imagine if you found out that Eddie Haskell and Fred Rutherford were in an erotic relationship and had some sort of Leopold and Loeb thing going on as well. Gives you the chills, doesn’t it? I guess that Alito has some sort of thing going on with Tony Scalia, who we used to call “Fat Tony” these days, but I really don’t want to know what it is.

  86. 86.

    Anne Laurie

    January 29, 2010 at 2:33 am

    @Wilson Heath:

    What the hell is wrong with her? Besides everything?

    She’s a lawyer who gets paid to teach Constitutional law to would-be lawyers. When the President smacks around The Most Important Serious Lawyers in the Whole Country, he’s making Ann’s role models look like the bought-and-sold insects they are, which materially interferes with Ann’s commercial goals.

    Of course, she also has a blog where she posts semi-coherent rants & videos of herself getting drunk for the enjoyment of as big a bunch of right-wing fringe psychotics as you’ll find this side of the Freepers. But when Ann heckles President Obama for speaking unkindly to ‘The Nine’, just picture Obama recycling the classic vaudeville rebuttal: “Hey, lady, do I come down to the truck stop and criticize YOUR work?”

  87. 87.

    Ripley

    January 29, 2010 at 2:41 am

    DougJ, I thought the liquor thread was finished. No? Garcon, another box then!

  88. 88.

    Wile E. Quixote

    January 29, 2010 at 2:47 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    But when Ann heckles President Obama for speaking unkindly to ‘The Nine’, just picture Obama recycling the classic vaudeville rebuttal: “Hey, lady, do I come down to the truck stop and criticize YOUR work?”

    Oh my God, so many people I’d love to hear him say that to. Sally Quinn, Peggy Noonan, Maureen Dowd, Ross Douthat, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman. The list goes on.

  89. 89.

    Yutsano

    January 29, 2010 at 2:50 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    But when Ann heckles President Obama for speaking unkindly to ‘The Nine’

    It just occured to me “The Nine” could sooo be a Grisham novel title!

  90. 90.

    Batocchio

    January 29, 2010 at 3:44 am

    So is Ann still pretending not to be a conservative these days?

  91. 91.

    kay

    January 29, 2010 at 5:12 am

    Isn’t it fascinating that the lengthy, amplified, magnified speech of the most powerful man in the world with his big captive audience — in the magnificent room and in smaller rooms all over the country

    I didn’t bother to read the rest.
    The President’s audience isn’t captive at the SOTU, and you certainly aren’t captive in your living room when he’s speaking.
    And even if we were were captive, we’d be equally captive to Justice Alito’s editorializing, right, because the President and the judge were in the same room?
    All of her “insights” are like this. They don’t even pass the objectively true test.
    From the moment both Roberts and Alito were nominated, conservative lawyers have promoted and fluffed them with these over the top declarations of their brilliance and decency. Besides the blatant, groveling boot-licking aspect, it always strikes me as defensive.
    Alito churns out a lot of pages. I would think his work would speak for itself. I don’t know why he needs a cadre of volunteer PR people.

  92. 92.

    kay

    January 29, 2010 at 5:27 am

    “He was a notable no-show when President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden accepted Chief Justice John G. Roberts’s invitation to pay a courtesy call on the court. Alito was the only member of the court not to attend the afternoon event, even though he had been at the court in the morning. He has not explained why he was absent.”

    She’s always wrong. Justices don’t have to attend SOTU addresses either, and often don’t.
    If Alito was a “captive”, he turned himself in.

  93. 93.

    Ash Can

    January 29, 2010 at 6:08 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    She’s a lawyer who gets paid to teach Constitutional law to would-be lawyers. When the President smacks around The Most Important Serious Lawyers in the Whole Country, he’s making Ann’s role models look like the bought-and-sold insects they are, which materially interferes with Ann’s commercial goals so much as gets mentioned in the news, she’s reminded that he was a more proficient constitutional law professor than she is, at a more prestigious law school than hers, who went on to even bigger and better things. But hey, she has a blog! With readers! That’s something, right?

  94. 94.

    Remember November

    January 29, 2010 at 8:47 am

    @The Republic of Stupidity:

    Not the foreign companies, per se- but a US company with foreign subsidiaries- that’s where it gets sticky. Real sticky like an airport bathroom wide-stance stall.

  95. 95.

    ricky

    January 29, 2010 at 9:45 am

    I think you have done Althouse a serious disservice. After at least another carton and much comtemplation she realizes she wrote like a box of rocks and has made a correction. Serious readers should revisit.

  96. 96.

    Alan

    January 29, 2010 at 9:50 am

    @Paul:

    As usual, I can’t figure out what her fucking point is.

    As she typically does, she’s applauding the Right for being correct about, well, everything. And coming from her–a liberal–that means a lot (to her). Her point is she’s brilliant. And if you don’t see that you must be an idiot.

    She’s the Ellsworth Toohey of the Right. She never actually makes a point. And the Right loves her for it.

  97. 97.

    master c

    January 29, 2010 at 9:56 am

    I read Althouse and the comments. I love it. It is safer than arguing with family members. I dont want to just read people who agree with me. She has a loyal following who HATE Obama [different than
    firebaggers] and I am so in the tank for him, I want to hear WHY
    they hate him. Cant decide if she is for real or not. Why would someone vote for him and then declare only months later Obama “lost me”? She throws out the red meat like a champ! Where did 28% go?

  98. 98.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    January 29, 2010 at 11:11 am

    @sab:

    I was really excited at work because my Independent/Republican teaparty boss was really impressed with the speech. He didn’t vote for Obama, but he felt that the President addressed a lot of his concerns, which is unusual in his experience.

    What a lot of people miss is that while Obama has progressive elements to his outlook and program, in a lot of other ways both public and private he is actually a classic midwestern small-c conservative. There isn’t much room left in the GOP for those folks, with their emphasis on modesty, prudence and thrift. If you are an Eisenhower conservative, these days you have to be a Democrat. It is no accident that of the two national party nominating conventions back in 2008, the one which had an Eisenhower grandchild give an speech was the Dem convention in Denver, not the GOP convention in MN.

    Obama comes across like more of a liberal than perhaps he would be otherwise, because a Keynesian stimulus policy is what these times demand. But it is obvious which party has the real fiscal conservatives in it, and it ain’t the GOP.

  99. 99.

    Comrade Dread

    January 29, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Personally, I think his SOTU speech should have been:

    “We’re fucked. Thank the 535 people sitting in this room. If you need me, I’ll be in France.”

  100. 100.

    maya

    January 29, 2010 at 11:58 am

    To really appreciate Ann’s total fachisnation with judge Alito you need to go back to this post from 2005 about what alito means in Italian.

    So there you have it — in case you want to use imagery in discussing Samuel Alito. A breath of fresh air? Bad breath? It’s your metaphor!

    So there we have it: she was either complimenting Alito for silently bringing a breath of fresh air into the stagnant American political scene, or, she was noting the profound effect bad breath can have in a closed room. It’s our metaphor!

    Pure genius.

  101. 101.

    Church Lady

    January 29, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    @Ash Can: Not a professor. A “lecturer”.

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