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You are here: Home / Politics / Media / Some People Say

Some People Say

by John Cole|  January 31, 201010:36 am| 76 Comments

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Get ready for several hours of conventional wisdom every week, as Candy Crowley is taking over CNN’s State of the Union. At least she has a great voice- one that I have always loved.

We should keep a running count of how manytimes she trots out her patented “some people say” crap, although that would require watching.

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  1. 1.

    Equal Opportunity Cynic

    January 31, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Too bad TV isn’t like Wikipedia. I love editing articles with, “Some people say,” to add the {{who?}} tag.

  2. 2.

    Comrade Jake

    January 31, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Crowley has a face that was made for concern trolling.

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    January 31, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Look on the bright side:

    CNN’s new Sunday lineup will feature State of the Union in a new one hour block (instead of its original 4 hours)

    Only 1/4th the nonsense.

    -dms

  4. 4.

    valdivia

    January 31, 2010 at 10:53 am

    Ugh. I just heard about this and wanted to put a fork through my ear.

    OT but super cool, via Fallows. Obama at the Georgetown-Duke game, sitting on the espn talk booth doing a play by play.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBn3cVmQo0&feature=player_embedded

  5. 5.

    Waynski

    January 31, 2010 at 10:53 am

    Comrade Jake FTW early. Personally, I’m doing everything I can to avoid the Sunday morning Villager horseshit fest.

  6. 6.

    jeffreyw

    January 31, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Some people say that feeding strays just leads to dependence on handouts.

    I say fuck “some people”.

  7. 7.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    January 31, 2010 at 10:57 am

    @Comrade Jake: I’ll always remember her calling Dennis Kucinich ugly(I think it was during the 2008 campaign, but not sure). If that isn’t chutzpah, I don’t know what is.

  8. 8.

    Cat Lady

    January 31, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Well it’s a woman at least so there’s that, but really? Have the producers of these shows ever heard of something called the internet and those weblog thingies where the conventional wisdom is nuked every goddamn day? More media FAIL.

    Sigh.

  9. 9.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:02 am

    Did the talk shows mention the President’s smack down of the Republicans at their caucus?

  10. 10.

    Quinn

    January 31, 2010 at 11:02 am

    I fucking hate David Gregory (R-Douche Bag). How can that dimwit ask the question: based on his meeting with Republicans, does the President think he needs to move to the center to not be a one-term President. What part of meeting with a bunch of wingers equates to moving to the center. Is Mr. Gregory implying that the current Republican caucus is “center?” God, how does this guy keep his job?

  11. 11.

    dr. bloor

    January 31, 2010 at 11:03 am

    @Cat Lady:

    Well it’s a woman at least

    Some people say…

  12. 12.

    DanF

    January 31, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Some people say Obama is an elitist – even though he can do live sports commentary for NCAA basketball in a way that regular-guy Bush could never do for baseball.

  13. 13.

    chrome agnomen

    January 31, 2010 at 11:06 am

    @dr. bloor:

  14. 14.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    January 31, 2010 at 11:08 am

    @DanF: But look on the bright side. Bush gets to give Jerry Jones a man hug. ;-)

  15. 15.

    Dennis G.

    January 31, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Well, I suspect that she’ll be an improvement over John King, but that’s only because he was so bad.

    OTOH, she could be worse, but I shudder to think about that.

    Cheers

  16. 16.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Barbara Walters: What three items would you cut?
    Scott Brown: Duh!
    Barbara Walters: Wow, good idea.

  17. 17.

    Waynski

    January 31, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Can we find the “some people” and punch them in the neck?

  18. 18.

    dr. bloor

    January 31, 2010 at 11:11 am

    @DanF:

    To be fair, a baseball game moves a little too quickly for Bush.

  19. 19.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    January 31, 2010 at 11:13 am

    @demo woman:

    Did the talk shows mention the President’s smack down of the Republicans at their caucus?

    I suspect the Sunday talkers and the pundits will come to a consensus that what happened was that Obama admitted we need more bipartisanship and that the Republicans have ideas that the Congressional Dems just aren’t listening. So, yeah, that going into the lions den thing is really going to work out in the long run.

  20. 20.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:16 am

    @The Grand Panjandrum: The first show that I put on was the Scott Brown interview. It might be my imagination but it appears that Walters keep looking towards his crotch.

  21. 21.

    Alfie

    January 31, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Candy Crowley? She’s the biggest thing on television.

  22. 22.

    Rey

    January 31, 2010 at 11:16 am

    @ Val

    Ugh. I just heard about this and wanted to put a fork through my ear.

    I was gonna post the exact same comment but, the fork was going in my eyes instead.

    I don’t like Candy Crowley

    Why won’t CNN promote that sexy TJ Holmes or Don Lemmon for Sunday morn? give a girl some eye candy for god’s sake..

  23. 23.

    Kryptik

    January 31, 2010 at 11:16 am

    @Dennis G.:

    Yeah, I was just about to say that.

    Crowley may be bad, but at least she probably won’t be as blatantly dishonest and GOP-fellating as John King was.

  24. 24.

    Comrade Jake

    January 31, 2010 at 11:17 am

    I suspect the practical consequences of Obama going to the GOP caucus are going to be pretty negligible. Republicans getting their oratorical asses handed to them just isn’t a narrative the MSM can absorb.

    Still, I hope we see more of it, because it was so goddamn fucking entertaining.

  25. 25.

    cat48

    January 31, 2010 at 11:17 am

    @demo woman:

    CNN showed film of him yesterday telling a crowd that things in Washington had already changed because of him. In fact, he said that the President met with the Repugs Fri. because he was elected.

    They announced the Fri. meeting over a month ago, but I guess he shouldn’t let things like facts get in the way.

  26. 26.

    ajr22

    January 31, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Roger Ailes just proposed taking everyone’s underwear off at the airport. And boy does he look like the blob.

  27. 27.

    Ash

    January 31, 2010 at 11:18 am

    @DanF:

    Some people say Obama is an elitist – even though he can do live sports commentary for NCAA basketball in a way that regular-guy Bush could never do for baseball.

    Who cares. The only thing that will ever convince me he’s a Real Murikan is if he shows up at a NASCAR game (race? match? I have no fucking clue).

  28. 28.

    Kirk Spencer

    January 31, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Some people say…

    the earth is flat;
    they are the reincarnation of Napoleon Bonaparte;
    it never rains in southern California;
    and on, and on.

    So name names, or have the statement given the ridicule it deserves.

  29. 29.

    Waynski

    January 31, 2010 at 11:19 am

    @Alfie — I see what you did there.

    On a separate note, perhaps CW can now be CC.

  30. 30.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:20 am

    @ajr22: I’m watching This Week and Scott Brown just said that he wants his daughter on American Idol again.. What a strange interview..
    Picture Ailes and Limbaugh together at an orgy.

  31. 31.

    Max

    January 31, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Watching David Gregory, he really is awful. I can’t even cite something specific because it’s all just so bad. He’s got to have pictures of someone at NBC in a very compromising position.

    OT –

    Max the Wheaten has hurt his hind leg, and he’s limping, but not in pain when I touch and move it. The vet told me to give him aspirin and keep him quiet for a few days. I bring this up only to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep a Wheaten Terrier quiet. He’s still jumping and running all over the place. It’s a challenge, to say the least.

  32. 32.

    Johnny Gentle (famous crooner)

    January 31, 2010 at 11:22 am

    I’ve always wondered if Crowley’s voice was the inspiration for Family Guy “Asian Reporter” Trisha Takanawa\s voice. They\re eerily similar.

  33. 33.

    Chat Noir

    January 31, 2010 at 11:23 am

    @valdivia:

    Obama at the Georgetown-Duke game, sitting on the espn talk booth doing a play by play.

    Excellent! Geez, the man goes from bitch-slapping Republican House members on Friday to doing basketball color commentary on Saturday. I’m impressed.

  34. 34.

    ajr22

    January 31, 2010 at 11:25 am

    @demo woman: I missed that and only saw the panel. All I know is Krugman looked like he wanted to punch Ailes in his fat neck. At one point, when Ailes was talking about how all the Obama needs to do to find compromise is invite 4 dems and 4 reps to watch the Super-Bowl you could hear Krugman mutter “these are real issues come on”

  35. 35.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:26 am

    @Max: Make sure that you give buffered aspirin. Hope that Max is okay.

  36. 36.

    bob h

    January 31, 2010 at 11:26 am

    although that would require watching.

    Watching this stuff is like sensing the end of the universe.

  37. 37.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:28 am

    @ajr22: At one point he offered to sign his nude centerfold picture. It would not have surprised me if she took him up on his offer after the cameras were turned off.

  38. 38.

    Max

    January 31, 2010 at 11:33 am

    @demo woman: I am. 1.5 baby aspirin twice a day.

    He sprains a back leg about once/year. He flies off the porch and down the stairs and jumps for no reason when running.

    I shower him with treats that have glucosamine chondroitin in them. Always mindful of the hips.

  39. 39.

    scav

    January 31, 2010 at 11:33 am

    @demo woman: oh goody. I would once have really really enjoyed the demise of the whole family-values line of attack if it weren’t for the immediate whip-lash to Sarah et al. doing flag-pole-dancing to Rock of Ages.

  40. 40.

    Steeplejack

    January 31, 2010 at 11:33 am

    @valdivia:

    Very cool!

    What I like about Obama is that he is able to cloak his politician side under a “real person” layer that seems to be more than a millimeter deep, unlike Bush, McCain, Bill Clinton, the other Bush–hell, you get the idea. How could you not want to have a beer with this guy? And I am a person who hates that whole idea of voting for someone you would want to have a beer with. &#042Obot sigh&#042

    Just a little more ass-kicking now and then, please.

  41. 41.

    Mike E

    January 31, 2010 at 11:35 am

    @Comrade Jake:
    It’s nice to see Jabba The Hut get work after movies.

  42. 42.

    valdivia

    January 31, 2010 at 11:35 am

    @Chat Noir:

    I know. I loved the end part when they asked him about the right hand. His answer was gold.

  43. 43.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:39 am

    @Max: I had a golden that had hip dysplasia and my vet suggested no long walks and undue exercise. I cried because with the lack of exercise would mean that he would not live to a ripe old age. I used bufferin only when necessary because to much would cause him to think he was a puppy. A little pain was good. Sunny died when he was 16.

    Now to vent what was Ailes allowed to attack Huffington.. He sat there and spouted that Arianna’s site was mean to him. Now he is interrupting Krugman.

  44. 44.

    Chat Noir

    January 31, 2010 at 11:40 am

    @valdivia: Yuppers. I also like that he is often self-depricating.

    Clark Kellogg looked postively giddy. Of course, I would have been, too. Also.

    /obot

  45. 45.

    FlipYrWhig

    January 31, 2010 at 11:41 am

    I read a transcript of an interview with Scott Brown on Boston.com. The guy seemed like a colossal moron. What stuck with me is his saying “I was like” instead of “I said,” which I’ve never heard an on-duty professional person do. He came across as a male Sarah Palin without the God talk. Was he any less juvenile live?

  46. 46.

    eemom

    January 31, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Take heed, ye giddy Obots! There are other bots out there, and they are made of sterner stuff.
    “Obama Debating Dummies Is Easy; How About Debating the Grownups on the Real Issues?”
    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/27392

  47. 47.

    jeffreyw

    January 31, 2010 at 11:47 am

    @scav:

    flag-pole-dancing to Rock of Ages.

    No need now for further comment.

  48. 48.

    demo woman

    January 31, 2010 at 11:50 am

    @FlipYrWhig: Long answer, No
    You will miss Walters wiping the drool off her face though.

  49. 49.

    bemused

    January 31, 2010 at 11:53 am

    @Max:
    We give our dog who has arthritis in her back legs 500 mg of fish oil a day. We started that on the advice of the owner of the kennel we use last summer & noticed a difference in just two weeks. We’ve had her on glucosamine chondrotin for a few years now but the addition of fish oil has made a noticeable improvement in her comfort of movement.

  50. 50.

    Max

    January 31, 2010 at 11:53 am

    @eemom: Sweet jesus, that site really is a cess pool of crazy.

    @demo woman: How wonderful that Sunny was able to live such a long life. Hips are definitely something to keep an eye on. My mom’s lab had hip problems. I have had Max’s x-rayed and he’s clear, but it still worries me enough to keep up the supplements.

    @bemused: Thanks. I think I’ll try that. Everything helps when you have a rough and tumble dog.

  51. 51.

    Punchy

    January 31, 2010 at 11:55 am

    First in with the “gunna buy stock in wide-angle lens companies” blast…

  52. 52.

    NobodySpecial

    January 31, 2010 at 11:58 am

    I’m trying to remember who the last actual leftist was on CNN. Not Bill Press, not Michael Kinsley.

    Is that because there have been none, or should I start checking for Alzheimer’s?

  53. 53.

    BenA

    January 31, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Two things, slightly off topic, but since you linked to Mediaite: I wish I knew how Fox News was gaming the system to get their ratings. I’m sure they are, just like the right wing crazy groups use mass buys of books to push them into the best seller list.

    And the bar is set so unbelievably low for cable TV news shows. I mean for christ sakes ICarly doubles the viewership of any cable news program…

  54. 54.

    Mike E

    January 31, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    @eemom:
    Yo, I want that 15 minutes back! And now I have to take a shower–thanks.

  55. 55.

    burnspbesq

    January 31, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    @eemom:

    Not clicking through. I have no need to know what those folks define as “the real issues.”

  56. 56.

    Mike E

    January 31, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    @BenA:

    I wish I knew how Fox News was gaming the system to get their ratings

    Walk into my local McDonalds and you’ll see how–they have a teevee devoted to Fux News. And my neighborhood is most decidedly Dem.

  57. 57.

    bemused

    January 31, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    @Max:
    Check with your vet on the fish oil but I think many are recommending it now.
    It is almost impossible to stop active dogs from leaping down from high spots but it’s worth trying to train them not to. The joint stress of those jumps start showing up as they get older. One of our dogs wasn’t even that old when he started limping & vet told us that was the cause. After that we stopped letting him leap out of the back of the suv. Now we have an older arthritic dog & a not yet 2 young one & they both get a soft lift down.

  58. 58.

    debit

    January 31, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    @Mike E: Have you asked the manager to change the channel? And if he says no, there are always those zapper things to turn TVs off. IJS.

  59. 59.

    Nellcote

    January 31, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    Any chance they’ll replace Howard Kurtz?

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    January 31, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    @bemused: My dog has terrible problems with arthritis, and we’ve tried everything we knew to try, so my ears really perked up at this. Do you give the fish oil in capsules or some other form? Is this something you get from your vet or from the health food store?

  61. 61.

    Mike E

    January 31, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    @debit:
    2 teevees out front, one towards the restrooms–all were tuned to Fux, but complaints have changed the 2 out front to ESPN and HNN.

  62. 62.

    handy

    January 31, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    @eemom:

    They may be 12-year olds, but they hold 41 seats in the senate and are licking their chops to take back congress in the midterm. And people in this country still vote for them. A lot of people.

  63. 63.

    burnspbesq

    January 31, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Now that Obama has said he watches SportsCenter, I expect Erick Son of Erick to issue a fatwa demanding that all Real Murkins boycott ESPN.

  64. 64.

    cmorenc

    January 31, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    @demo-woman

    Did the talk shows mention the President’s smack down of the Republicans at their caucus?

    Yes. Except that most of them didn’t frame it as the smack-down as it was, but rather as a [politically necessitated] effort by Obama to prove himself open to working with the Repubs. Unfortunately, very few of the shows showed any meaningful clips from the caucus meeting. VASTLY far more of the talk shows focused on two things: the problems the admin has run into trying to bring Gitmo detainees to trial in Fed Court in NYC; how the economic situation plays into Obama vs the Congress, esp the Republicans – ie. how he might be planning to meet them partway on a Jobs bill with tax cuts thrown in, etc.

    In other words, the MSM (with the exception of MSNBC’s Keith O. and Rachael M.) unfortunately did NOT seem to seize upon the sound-bytes and visual nuggets richly available from the conference event, nor even focus much at all on the President’s State of the Union speech. Rather, the MSM seemed intent of keeping things focused within their own memes, which are too strongly influenced and planted by the GOP these days.

  65. 65.

    Joey Maloney

    January 31, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Newest member of The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body. “And Senator Franken was like, ‘corporations abroad shouldn’t be able to get away with rape’ and I was like, ‘no way,’ and he was like…”

    Shoot me now.

  66. 66.

    Mike E

    January 31, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    @Joey Maloney:
    Oreely? Like, OMG

  67. 67.

    bemused

    January 31, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    We give her whatever is cheapest from the usual places, Target, Walgreens, etc. in the softgels. She is very accustomed to the pill taking, just chews up the fish oil & the glucosamine/chondrotin. She does give us a look when we give her a different brand (new taste) but doesn’t mind after that. It’s not very often that we have to stick a pill down her throat. She’s always been an excellent patient, very blase.
    The cause of her arthritis is that she inherited a leg joint problem that have shown up in dogs in recent years rivaling the hip dysplasia problem. We had to take her at age 4 to the U of MN vet hospital to have a plate put in her knee. I was shocked at how many knee surgeries they were doing there. Then it was months of healing. She could only go out for potty breaks & we put a temporary ramp on the back steps so she would not have to go up & down steps. We had a cone for her but didn’t have to use it. She left her stitches alone after being reminded not to mess with them. We had a business at the time & I was able to take her to work with me so we could keep an eye on her all the time. I would glance at her, see her licking her stitches, sternly tell her to stop & she caught on pretty fast. One day an employee came in my office just as I was telling her firmly, “Stop licking, stop licking!” & he said, “Okay, I will, I will”.

  68. 68.

    fraught

    January 31, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    This Week, this week. Barbara Walters is 80. Roger Ailes and George Will are 69, Arianna is 59, Krugman is a mere 57. The demo for these Sunday shows is somewhere over the rainbow in age and viewpoint. Ailes, especially, seems to have tapped into a vast pool of geriatric rage. He seems slow and outdated in his attempts at irony and comes up with a 1950 brand of sarcasm instead.
    Barbara seems to be fighting Terry Moran for the This Week job. She’ll be Hosting from her bed pan in the nursing home soon.

  69. 69.

    Tim I

    January 31, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    John King is the biggest rightwing ass in the known universe. He’s not very bright either, so Crowley has a fair chance at being an imporvement – not good mind you – but an improvement.

    King is a fitting replacement in the 7pm ‘blowhard hour’ on CNN.

  70. 70.

    FlipYrWhig

    January 31, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    @Joey Maloney: IMHO Scott Brown looks just like an older brother to Luke and Owen Wilson.

  71. 71.

    Sly

    January 31, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    @eemom:

    I like that post. I like anything that reveals a writer’s sense of self-importance and intractable belief in their own brilliance, which is basically why I read FDL in the first place.

    Obama should talk to the grown-ups. Who are the grown-ups, you might ask? Uh… well… US!

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    January 31, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    @bemused: Thanks for all the information. My guys is not good with pills, but I have never tried the softgels, so maybe there is hope. The end of your story made me laugh.

    It reminded me of the Bob Newhart episode where he’s walking through the common area in their office and sees/hears this big black guy saying “Sit Whitey, sit!” Bob Newhart immediately sits down, but we see that the guy is giving a command to his dog, not Bob Newhart.

  73. 73.

    4jkb4ia

    January 31, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Espn360.com announcer: “Very impressive win for South Florida”. Or something like that because I got distracted by the PUMA thread.

  74. 74.

    bemused

    January 31, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    That made me think of the Inspector Clouseau bit, “I thought you said your dog did not bite” & reply “That’s not my dog”.

  75. 75.

    4jkb4ia

    January 31, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    @valdivia:
    I saw that. I smiled through the whole thing but Cynicism said, “He is very aware he is performing. Look when he said, “Heartbreak”, when the clip of him against North Carolina was played”. Cynicism also remembered when George W. was on the radio with Wayne Hagen and Mike Shannon and it was clear he loved baseball. He even spoke English the whole time.

  76. 76.

    Aunt Moe

    February 1, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Candy. Crowley. Just put needles in my eyes please.

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