Wow. A trifecta of fucked up; Orlando (right wing nuts-ville), the TSA (nuff said), and Air Marshall Program (the most corrupt division in govt).
Imagine that…they hate gays, minorities, and women. Color me shocked.
2.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
Cheney went outside in daylight? The end is near!
3.
Morbo
How dare you, sir! The noble groundhog will not stand for such an insult as a comparison to such plague-bearing vermin.
And they won’t stand for being compared to rats either.
(Edited because I couldn’t resist, thanks, DougL)
4.
dricey
Here in the upper Midwest, we should be so lucky as to have only six more weeks of winter.
5.
Shell
Does the whistlepig ever NOT see his shadow? I’m hard pressed to think of a year when he hasn’t.
6.
dmsilev
There was a story in the paper yesterday decrying the annual cruelty-to-groundhogs ritual. Something about it not being nice to disturb a hibernating animal.
-dms
7.
Maxwel
OTOH, good news for Atlanta.
8.
Fergus Wooster
Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. There is no way this winter is ever going to end, as long as that groundhog keeps seeing his shadow. I don’t see any other way out.
Got up and Girlfriend was muttering about “the fucking beaver” and it took a little coffee until I realized what she was talking about.
10.
mr. whipple
Rat? How dare you slander the venerable groundhog?
11.
flukebucket
I’ll never forget the time my daughter came home from kindergarten and excitedly explained to me and her mother that “tomorrow hogs are going to come up out of the ground and tell us if winter is over or not”
Damn. Kids grow up too fast.
12.
GReynoldsCT00
Aw, fuck it. Seems like he sees his damn shadow every year.
They’ve obviously never visited Phil in his natural habitat at Gobbler’s Knob in beautiful Punxsutawny, PA. Phil lives in the lap of luxury and not just luxury as a rodent would define it. If there is a more pampered and spoiled animal on this earth than Punxsutawny Phil, I cannot imagine it. Believe me, I’ve seen it. Unfrackingbelievable.
16.
burnspbesq
What about the barefoot girl?
17.
beltane
Six more weeks for someone. Where I live, March comes in like a lion and goes out like a tiger. We did see a gray squirrel in the woods the other day, which is something I’ve never seen before (we only have the red squirrels). My cat will likely make a nice meal of him.
18.
Pasquinade
Forget Groundhog Day! Feb. 2 = Marmot Day, thanks to Sarah Palin
i prefer woodchuck myself. i have to say, it amused me greatly to see the weather channel covering this and cutting to commerical just as they were about to reveal phil’s forecast.
22.
BenA
I love this kind of superstition…. the kind I can get behind… unlike Christianity, paganism, scientology, and eating fried chicken on game day.
23.
Chinn Romney
So does PETA have a paypal account? I’d like to donate. Really, the slurs that Phil has to endure. I followed that link and one guy said that Phil has no predictive skills whatsover. I can only imagine the pain and suffering that put Phil through. Phil’s muscle tone isn’t all that it could be either. We all need to join forces and act quickly.
24.
Randy P
I said this in another thread but it’s more apropos here:
I never understood that whole Groundhog Day thing when I was a kid in Syracuse, NY. Who ever heard of winter ending in February? Or March for that matter? Of COURSE there was more snow coming.
For that matter, I never figured out why “spring” had such a reputation among songwriters, poets, etc, either. Why celebrate the season of slush and mud? And chances are, in May you’re going to get one last snowfall anyway.
@Randy P: Mud season isn’t pretty. And spring doesn’t truly arrive until Memorial Day. Before that, snow is always a possibility.
28.
Comrade Mary
I’ve been playing chicken with the long range forecast by not putting studded tires on my bike. It’s a waste to use them on dry roads because you go more slowly and you wear out the studs, so I’ve put off buying a pair as long as possible. There will be a couple of centimetres of snow by this weekend, but nothing more than I can see.
In Canada, Wiarton Willie was our rodent forecaster of choice. After decades of service, he died during hibernation, and then, well, things got a bit scandalous. And disgusting.
The original Wiarton Willie, an albino groundhog said to be 22 years old, died during hibernation in the winter of 1998-99. The good burghers of Wiarton discovered this to their horror just before Groundhog Day 1999.
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Willie’s death made headlines around the world.
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On Groundhog Day, they put Wiarton Willie face-up in a small pine casket, bright pennies over his eyes, paws clutching a raw carrot. But it was a fake! Turns out the real Wiarton Willie was so disgustingly decomposed he couldn’t be put on display, so they found a stuffed facsimile and laid it in the casket.
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“We didn’t try to hide the fact that he was stuffed,” said Tom Ashman of Wiarton Willie’s publicity team. “If the media had been doing their job they would have seen the stitches on the belly.”
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But, why fake it?
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“People needed closure,” Ashman explained.
Draw whatever parallels you like.
29.
The Golux
One thing that’s always puzzled me is the “six more weeks of winter” if the groundhog sees his shadow. You never hear what the prediction is if he doesn’t see his shadow; is it seven? Four? They never say.
Wikipedia to the rescue: No shadow means less winter.
Also curious is the fact that six weeks only gets you to March 16th, so you still get a shorter winter than the calendar dictates.
The idea being that in the pause right between the solstice and the equinox, there is predictive power in the weather we’re getting at that moment.
Since I don’t recall Phil ever seeing his shadow, I don’t know if he’s ever been wrong…
31.
David in NY
As I recall, the groundhog’s calendar is set to that of Europe, where the story originated (it first involved some other hibernating animal). So in the beginning, the prospect of mid-March spring being late might not have been fanciful. (We laughed at it as we grew up in Michigan, too.)
32.
Mike in NC
Could you be more specific? Is this a reference to Lieberman, Cantor, Nelson, or McConnell?
Generally, where it gets real cold (which thanks to global warming is no longer Pennsylvania most years), you stop getting precipitation because the air is too dry. The predictive power might come from the idea that precipitation heralds more humid weather which leads to warmer weather.
However, that all assumes it started with the groundhog. But the groundhog is a poor substitute for german hedgehogs. Who I guess leave their warrens at the end of winter to search for mates. Germans moved to Pennsylvania, and looked for a substitute. But groundhogs don’t leave their warrens for that purpose at this time here. So, the whole thing got merged with Candlemas/Imbolc weather prediction and that is what we have. It did lead to a great movie, and is harmless fun.
You don’t need a groundhog. Look at your own shadow, it is the same sun shining down.
35.
Kahomono
Seriously – Why TF does anyone report this BS anymore.
Are we all six?
36.
Shell
Spring—
When the world is mud-lucious and puddle wonderful.
I admit that you did not call punksawhatsy Bill, or Will, or Jamison, or whatever, a US Senator but still, calling it a rat was mean.
I hope Cole’s shoulder gets better soon, either the pain or them pain drugs are messing with his normally very polite and delicately mild good and perfect manners.
42.
bago
Whatevs. I’ve been back in WA state for two weeks and I need some decent snow!
Punchy
Wow. A trifecta of fucked up; Orlando (right wing nuts-ville), the TSA (nuff said), and Air Marshall Program (the most corrupt division in govt).
Imagine that…they hate gays, minorities, and women. Color me shocked.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
Cheney went outside in daylight? The end is near!
Morbo
How dare you, sir! The noble groundhog will not stand for such an insult as a comparison to such plague-bearing vermin.
And they won’t stand for being compared to rats either.
(Edited because I couldn’t resist, thanks, DougL)
dricey
Here in the upper Midwest, we should be so lucky as to have only six more weeks of winter.
Shell
Does the whistlepig ever NOT see his shadow? I’m hard pressed to think of a year when he hasn’t.
dmsilev
There was a story in the paper yesterday decrying the annual cruelty-to-groundhogs ritual. Something about it not being nice to disturb a hibernating animal.
-dms
Maxwel
OTOH, good news for Atlanta.
Fergus Wooster
Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. There is no way this winter is ever going to end, as long as that groundhog keeps seeing his shadow. I don’t see any other way out.
He’s got to be stopped. And I have to stop him.
Bob In Pacifica
Got up and Girlfriend was muttering about “the fucking beaver” and it took a little coffee until I realized what she was talking about.
mr. whipple
Rat? How dare you slander the venerable groundhog?
flukebucket
I’ll never forget the time my daughter came home from kindergarten and excitedly explained to me and her mother that “tomorrow hogs are going to come up out of the ground and tell us if winter is over or not”
Damn. Kids grow up too fast.
GReynoldsCT00
Aw, fuck it. Seems like he sees his damn shadow every year.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
@Morbo:
It works…lol!
@Bob In Pacifica:
She thought you had been a little rough last night? ;)
Annie
Not surprising, although someone should have run that rat over years ago. The forecast here in DC, is snow today, tomorrow, the next day, and so on….
geg6
@dmsilev:
They’ve obviously never visited Phil in his natural habitat at Gobbler’s Knob in beautiful Punxsutawny, PA. Phil lives in the lap of luxury and not just luxury as a rodent would define it. If there is a more pampered and spoiled animal on this earth than Punxsutawny Phil, I cannot imagine it. Believe me, I’ve seen it. Unfrackingbelievable.
burnspbesq
What about the barefoot girl?
beltane
Six more weeks for someone. Where I live, March comes in like a lion and goes out like a tiger. We did see a gray squirrel in the woods the other day, which is something I’ve never seen before (we only have the red squirrels). My cat will likely make a nice meal of him.
Pasquinade
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/02/sarah-palin-marmot-alaska.html
Morbo
@Pasquinade: Hey, nice marmot.
Annie
@Bob In Pacifica:
LOL…Thanks, I needed a good laugh as I am off to work..
twiffer
i prefer woodchuck myself. i have to say, it amused me greatly to see the weather channel covering this and cutting to commerical just as they were about to reveal phil’s forecast.
BenA
I love this kind of superstition…. the kind I can get behind… unlike Christianity, paganism, scientology, and eating fried chicken on game day.
Chinn Romney
So does PETA have a paypal account? I’d like to donate. Really, the slurs that Phil has to endure. I followed that link and one guy said that Phil has no predictive skills whatsover. I can only imagine the pain and suffering that put Phil through. Phil’s muscle tone isn’t all that it could be either. We all need to join forces and act quickly.
Randy P
I said this in another thread but it’s more apropos here:
I never understood that whole Groundhog Day thing when I was a kid in Syracuse, NY. Who ever heard of winter ending in February? Or March for that matter? Of COURSE there was more snow coming.
For that matter, I never figured out why “spring” had such a reputation among songwriters, poets, etc, either. Why celebrate the season of slush and mud? And chances are, in May you’re going to get one last snowfall anyway.
Punchy
/giggle
BenA
@Punchy:
Yeah, I’ve always enjoyed that one.
beltane
@Randy P: Mud season isn’t pretty. And spring doesn’t truly arrive until Memorial Day. Before that, snow is always a possibility.
Comrade Mary
I’ve been playing chicken with the long range forecast by not putting studded tires on my bike. It’s a waste to use them on dry roads because you go more slowly and you wear out the studs, so I’ve put off buying a pair as long as possible. There will be a couple of centimetres of snow by this weekend, but nothing more than I can see.
In Canada, Wiarton Willie was our rodent forecaster of choice. After decades of service, he died during hibernation, and then, well, things got a bit scandalous. And disgusting.
Draw whatever parallels you like.
The Golux
One thing that’s always puzzled me is the “six more weeks of winter” if the groundhog sees his shadow. You never hear what the prediction is if he doesn’t see his shadow; is it seven? Four? They never say.
Wikipedia to the rescue: No shadow means less winter.
Also curious is the fact that six weeks only gets you to March 16th, so you still get a shorter winter than the calendar dictates.
WereBear
The idea being that in the pause right between the solstice and the equinox, there is predictive power in the weather we’re getting at that moment.
Since I don’t recall Phil ever seeing his shadow, I don’t know if he’s ever been wrong…
David in NY
As I recall, the groundhog’s calendar is set to that of Europe, where the story originated (it first involved some other hibernating animal). So in the beginning, the prospect of mid-March spring being late might not have been fanciful. (We laughed at it as we grew up in Michigan, too.)
Mike in NC
Could you be more specific? Is this a reference to Lieberman, Cantor, Nelson, or McConnell?
Mario Piperni
Yes, the rat did see her shadow.
Patrick
Generally, where it gets real cold (which thanks to global warming is no longer Pennsylvania most years), you stop getting precipitation because the air is too dry. The predictive power might come from the idea that precipitation heralds more humid weather which leads to warmer weather.
However, that all assumes it started with the groundhog. But the groundhog is a poor substitute for german hedgehogs. Who I guess leave their warrens at the end of winter to search for mates. Germans moved to Pennsylvania, and looked for a substitute. But groundhogs don’t leave their warrens for that purpose at this time here. So, the whole thing got merged with Candlemas/Imbolc weather prediction and that is what we have. It did lead to a great movie, and is harmless fun.
You don’t need a groundhog. Look at your own shadow, it is the same sun shining down.
Kahomono
Seriously – Why TF does anyone report this BS anymore.
Are we all six?
Shell
Spring—
When the world is mud-lucious and puddle wonderful.
burnspbesq
@Randy P:
All Upstaters understand that the four seasons are Winter, Mud I, Fourth of July Weekend, and Mud II.
asiangrrlMN
@Punchy: Wow, just wow. I am SO shocked…that they were stupid enough to get caught.
And, yeah. It’s February. Of course we are going to have more winter!
Randy P
@burnspbesq:
You’re leaving out the weekend in September when all the leaves go from on the trees, still green, to on the ground and brown.
BenA
@Kahomono:
Yes.
jl
Why the hate speech against groundhogs?
I admit that you did not call punksawhatsy Bill, or Will, or Jamison, or whatever, a US Senator but still, calling it a rat was mean.
I hope Cole’s shoulder gets better soon, either the pain or them pain drugs are messing with his normally very polite and delicately mild good and perfect manners.
bago
Whatevs. I’ve been back in WA state for two weeks and I need some decent snow!
Dr. Morpheus
@Morbo:
Nah, s/he’s just happy to see you.