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by DougJ|  February 6, 201011:50 am| 52 Comments

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Even if we can’t use the word “retarded” anymore, at least we’re still allowed to torture and execute mentally disabled people.

(A little dark for a Saturday morning, I realize. But it’s true.)

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  1. 1.

    Svensker

    February 6, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Even if we can’t use the word “retarded” anymore, at least we’re still allowed to torture and execute mentally disabled people.

    Well, yuh. Duh.

  2. 2.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 6, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Goddamn it. More things about which to feel angry…and helpless. By the way, WaPo is down right now. I only got to read the second link–which was bad enough. I’m not surprised as our society has a remarkably callous outlook on human life (despite the lip-service paid to every life is meaningful and whatnot), but it’s still depressing beyond belief that the desire to execute someone is so strong, the government of a state would circumvent constitutional laws to do it.

    Oh, wait. Never mind. They learned by watching the W. regime in action.

  3. 3.

    Jim C

    February 6, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    A little dark for a Saturday morning, I realize.

    No such thing, Doug.

  4. 4.

    Kryptik

    February 6, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Doug, you’re oh so so so wrong. We don’t torture and execute them at all, haven’t you learned?

    We “enhanced interrogate” them and exercise “capital punishment” on them.

    Totally different things. You see how they’re different words? Totally different.

    (And case in point, you and John are totally different people as well)

  5. 5.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    February 6, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Good point, DougJ.

  6. 6.

    kay

    February 6, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    “Another thought to ponder: what does this mean for Texas’ Chief Justice Sharon Keller, if anything? She awaits the fact findings from her trial this past August (Judge Berchelmann has not issued anything as yet), and Dr. Dankowski was the expert who provided the requisite testimony in the Michael Richard case, allowing Mr. Richard to be executed that fateful afternoon when Justice Keller was too busy to hear his motion for stay (“the clerk’s office closes at five.”)

    Lordy. It just gets worse and worse.

  7. 7.

    Lolis

    February 6, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    And Palin endorsed Rick Perry in the Texas Republican primary. I didn’t even make that connection. It is disturbing.

    I, for one, will never give up my right to say the word retarded. If I do the Constitution will spontaneously combust.

  8. 8.

    Jason Bylinowski

    February 6, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    You missed the angle that this is GOOD NEWS FOR SUPER-GENIUS ARCHCRIMINALS.

    I gotta tell someone this: I had a very funny moment in a dream last night but first some background. On the place where I keep stuff to read in the bathroom I have a book by Tad Williams, the first book of the Otherland series. Anyway, in the dream, I was living far, far in the future, and I had to use the bathroom, so I go in, and as I was washing my hands (gotta be hygienic even in dreams, I guess) I noticed that the book had changed. The title of that book?

    Ted Williams – My Life As A Frozen Head. (with forward by Walt Disney)

    I immediately woke up laughing, which is probably why I remember it at all. Anybody else contantly surprised (and a little envious) by dream comedy material like this?

  9. 9.

    Kryptik

    February 6, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski:

    In all honesty, I’ve never heard of anyone who had a dream so that they woke up laughing.

    …tell me your secrets, please. It’d make waking up so much more enjoyable.

  10. 10.

    Dan Robinson

    February 6, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    That’s because they had it coming. Jesus made them retarded, it’s not our fault.

  11. 11.

    Jason Bylinowski

    February 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    @Kryptik: Oh. Really? I’ve woken up laughing, crying, screaming. It doesn’t happen that often though, seriously, maybe once or twice a year. Not claiming to be crazy-dream freak boy or anything, but yeah, it happens.

  12. 12.

    Zam

    February 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Well of course we execute them, any wing nut can tell you that retardation is only an excuse so lazy minorities can get off after murdering our precious white women. It’s just like the insanity defense it is used all the time and our streets our filled with murderous black people who pulled that card.

  13. 13.

    Why oh why

    February 6, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Either you’re with us, or you’re with the retarded.

  14. 14.

    Bruce Webb

    February 6, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Sigh. I am old enough to remember when ‘Retarded’ was the polite term. Instead of being a ‘moron’, an ‘idiot’, or an ‘imbecile’, all of which had technical definitions, instead everyone decided to pretend these kids were just somehow behind in their mental development (‘retarded’ meaning literally ‘held back’), or that they were just ‘slow’.

    I suppose that in 20 years the word ‘special’ will be pejorative as well given that we are already well on the way to ‘differently abled’.

  15. 15.

    RSA

    February 6, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    @Bruce Webb:

    I suppose that in 20 years the word ‘special’ will be pejorative as well…

    I was 12 years old when Congress passed a landmark bill on education for handicapped children. “Special education” was all in the news, and almost immediately the insult “sped” was born. “What are you, a sped?”

  16. 16.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 6, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    @Jason Bylanowski: I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who does this. I find my dreams wonderfully entertaining, often employing wordplay. One I remember fondly involved my making a salad dressing, the main ingredients of which were “piss and vinegar.” That had to be at least 35 years ago because I know I woke my husband up with my laughing, and we split in 1975.

    Thanks for sharing your dream. The foreword by Walt Disney is an especially fine touch!

  17. 17.

    jeffreyw

    February 6, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    One I remember fondly involved my making a salad dressing, the main ingredients of which were “piss and vinegar.”…I woke my husband …we split in 1975.

    Fun with dots LOL

  18. 18.

    Brick Oven Bill

    February 6, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    The last time Barack was allowed to answer questions without the teleprompter was when he called Officer Crowley ‘stupid’, which is admittedly not as bad as ‘retarded’. This was nonetheless damaging as Officer Crowley decided to defend his Character and, when he appeared on TV, spoke very articulately without a teleprompter. This was an exceptionally notable performance for a stupid cop.

    The last time Barack was allowed to do a back and forth on late night TV was when he compared his ability to that of full-blown retards with respect to bowling. He was pulled from these back and forths after it became known that while some retards bowl an average of 165, Barack bowled a 37. In front of the national cameras. You have to figure Barack either practiced before this performance, or is exceptionally arrogant.

    Then there was the baseball pitch.

    So now Barack is only allowed to read to us.

  19. 19.

    soonergrunt

    February 6, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    The thing about ‘retarded’ is that it hasn’t (even coloquially) been used by marginally intelligent, marginally classy people to refer to the developmentally disabled (as they used to be called) or the cognitively disabled (as they are sometimes called today.
    Having said that, I think Rahm Emmanuel is retarded for his constant insistence at pissing off the base instead of people like Lindsey Graham who will never vote with us in the first place.
    Trig Palin is cognitively disabled. Sarah Palin is retarded.

  20. 20.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 6, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    @jeffreyw

    LOL! You’re funnier than a dream. Hell, you’re funnier than a helicopter.

  21. 21.

    soonergrunt

    February 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Will somebody please reboot the system running the Brick oven Bill program? We’re about to get a stack overflow error in the stupid buffer again.

  22. 22.

    jeffreyw

    February 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Ooh! Got a comment on the chicken with tomatoes post:

    I’ve been making this for 35 years. It’s in a French cook book that my then girlfriend purchased. They call it coq au vin blanc (chicken in white wine). Sounds fancier than chicken and tomatoes.

    I sent that over to Iasa, she replied “not sexy, how about coq au poule au vin blanc?”

  23. 23.

    soonergrunt

    February 6, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: As long as the helicopter isn’t making jokes, we’re good.

  24. 24.

    Nethead Jay

    February 6, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski: Enjoy the Otherland series. They’re big books in more than one sense, Tad Williams crams a lot of interesting stuff into them and it’s a fairly huge universe. Took me while to get through them, due to both the size and concentration, but was totally worth it.

  25. 25.

    balconesfault

    February 6, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    The last time Barack was allowed to answer questions without the teleprompter was when he called Officer Crowley ‘stupid’

    Someone apparently didn’t watch Obama schooling the entire Republican House Caucus without a teleprompter a week ago.

    Then again, perhaps you’re just blocking that painful intrusion of reality into your own corner of the universe?

  26. 26.

    dr. bloor

    February 6, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Even if we can’t use the word “retarded” anymore, at least we’re still allowed to torture and execute mentally disabled people.

    Suck on it, libtards.

  27. 27.

    darryl

    February 6, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Anybody else contantly surprised (and a little envious) by dream comedy material like this?

    No, my dreams are horrible. I’m usually trying to escape from somebody, my strength has been zapped and I can’t beat up whoever I need to, and my teeth often break. And I’m back in college and forgot to take my exams and don’t know what to do.

  28. 28.

    dr. bloor

    February 6, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    So now Barack is only allowed to read to us.

    Except, of course, when he’s carrying out a verbal beat-down on the entire Republican House Caucus on live teevee.

  29. 29.

    darryl

    February 6, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Well of course we execute them, any wing nut can tell you that retardation is only an excuse so lazy minorities can get off after murdering our precious white women. It’s just like the insanity defense it is used all the time and our streets our filled with murderous black people who pulled that card.

    I live in the Deep South, and that’s not far from what people believe here. According to my relatives, welfare is the gummint program which allows the majority of black people to sit in their apartments eating free food and doing nothing, indefinitely.

  30. 30.

    danimal

    February 6, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    I’m lifting this from the comments over at Kevin Drum’s home because it resonates so strongly. JRW writes:

    Republicans seem to take for granted that our political system is so robust that it can survive their cynical manipulation and obstructionism. That’s assuming they care or think about such things. But, our institutions don’t show many signs of strength these days, from the Senate to the Supreme Court to the presidency. The Republicans all-out war on process and results may be one of the final nails in the coffin of citizen belief in the political process in this country. Maybe that’s what Republicans want, but I suspect even they won’t like, nor be able to control, the results of their nihilism.

    I wish that we were dealing with real conservatives, you know, the ones that care about conserving the greatness of the American experiment.

  31. 31.

    Brick Oven Bill

    February 6, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Barack taught us:

    “I will close Guantanamo Bay within one year.” This was the very first executive action of his life.

    Tim Maloney, the Special Olympian, gave the President the following advice:

    “Focus, take time, and relax. Keep your eyes on the alley.”

    I used this advice two days ago, every single time before releasing the ball. My score improved twenty points. This was very good advice.

    Thanks Tim.

  32. 32.

    darryl

    February 6, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Sigh. I am old enough to remember when ‘Retarded’ was the polite term. Instead of being a ‘moron’, an ‘idiot’, or an ‘imbecile’, all of which had technical definitions, instead everyone decided to pretend these kids were just somehow behind in their mental development (‘retarded’ meaning literally ‘held back’), or that they were just ‘slow’.
    I suppose that in 20 years the word ‘special’ will be pejorative as well given that we are already well on the way to ‘differently abled’.

    the Euphemism treadmill

    The number of people calling Harry Reid a racist for saying negro, in 50 years, the same number will be calling us racist for saying African-American when we slip up and forget the new term.

  33. 33.

    darryl

    February 6, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    There should be a clicky button on this site

    *show tard
    *don’t show tard

    and depending on what you select you’d see B.O.B., or not.

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    February 6, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Can we at least call BOB retarded?

    Please?

    -dms

  35. 35.

    Chyron HR

    February 6, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    I used this advice two days ago, every single time before releasing the ball. My score improved twenty points.

    I’m glad your accident hasn’t impaired you sexually, but it’s not really scoring if you’re the one playing with your ball.

  36. 36.

    balconesfault

    February 6, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    “I will close Guantanamo Bay within one year.” This was the very first executive action of his life.

    And if he had done so over the concerted fearmongering and opposition of every Republican in the country (plus not a small number of cowardly Dems), that action would have fit into the Republican narrative of how he’s a tyrant who does whatever he wants no matter how everyone else feels about it.

    Sounds to me like Obama did a very good job of keeping his eyes on the alley in this case – and the Republican concern trolls are clearly pretty damned frustrated and pissed off over this.

  37. 37.

    soonergrunt

    February 6, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    It is now past time to reboot the BoB machine. The overflow is inevitable.
    BTW–did somebody revert versions of the BoB, and not tell the community? The recursive behavior looks a lot like 4.121 but we should be running 4.33_Stable for distro and 5.02 for development. This project will not work if we don’t keep the rest of the devs informed.
    One could even say that BoB is retarded.

  38. 38.

    darryl

    February 6, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Can I get a filter which not only removes B.O.B, but also any idiot who says “concern troll”?

  39. 39.

    Brick Oven Bill

    February 6, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    dmsilev,

    You can call me retarded if I can call you retarded.

    And SGEW.

  40. 40.

    soonergrunt

    February 6, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    I thought we had ruled out the six-year-old behavior in the Bob because that would just be too obvious.
    So now he’s doing the “I know you are but what am I” subroutine.
    Did you guys decide to incorporate that mod and not tell me? Don’t you know what indicates for the stability of the system?

  41. 41.

    Mnemosyne

    February 6, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    @darryl:

    The treadmill is especially funny when it starts turning the other way. One of my classmates in graduate school got yelled at by a professor because she referred to “queer cinema” during a class discussion. That actually is the current preferred term in critical studies circles to talk about films by/about GLBT folks, but the professor freaked out.

  42. 42.

    scav

    February 6, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne: isn’t language funny? I just can’t wait for some teenager to roll their eyes, sigh, and say “Homophobia? That’s just SO. GAY.”

  43. 43.

    R-Jud

    February 6, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski:

    I gotta tell someone this: I had a very funny moment in a dream last night

    You’re not the only one that does this, and I’m also glad that you could read in the dream. I regularly read signs, mugs, t-shirts, etc., while dreaming, and my husband swears up and down that it’s not possible for you to read in a dream.

    The last dream I remember waking in a giggle from was one in which I was on a guided tour of NYC, and while we were looking out from an observation deck, the guide was telling us a story about a shoeless monk who found a pair of boots in an egg that was growing on a tree. There was an illuminated manuscript, too, which showed the monk throwing his hands up in praise at the discovery of the boots.

    I don’t do recreational drugs, btw. I clearly don’t need to.

  44. 44.

    licensed to kill time

    February 6, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    @Bruce Webb:

    I can remember when Mongoloid was used as a simple description, you never hear that anymore.

    Since people with Down syndrome may have epicanthic folds, the condition was widely called “Mongol” or “Mongoloid Idiocy”.[46] John Langdon Down, for whom the syndrome was named, claimed in his book Observations on the Ethnic Classification of Idiots (1866), that the Mongol-like features represented an evolutionary degeneration when manifested in Caucasoids. The use of the term “Mongoloid” for racial purposes has therefore acquired negative connotations because of the connection with Down syndrome.

    (Also note the term “Idiots” as used above.)

  45. 45.

    balconesfault

    February 6, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    @darryl: “but also any idiot who says “concern troll”?”

    You’ll have to filter the lexicon then, dude.

  46. 46.

    Paris

    February 6, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski:

    Jesus sidn’t retard them, Satan did. That’s why its ok to exterminate execute them.

    ” it is unconstitutional to execute someone who scores 70 or less on a standard IQ test ”

    G.W. is off the hook for war crimes.

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 6, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    @R-Jud: I read things all the time in my dreams. I’ve also noticed that if I’ve been spending a lot of time IRL working on, say, spreadsheets, or designing bargello patterns (geometric needlepoint designs), or sorting books, that activity or visual, whatever it is, often shows up in my dreams. Same with people, of course.

  48. 48.

    chrome agnomen

    February 6, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    i think you meant ‘intellectually challenged’, doug.

  49. 49.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 6, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    @darryl: I’m with darryl. I get rape, murder, attempted murder, and friends dying in my dreams. Not once have I woken up laughing.

    That said, I have a friend whose husband dreamed that she (my friend) and her friends were smoking weed. He went to look at the bowl in which the weed was stored, and it contained broccoli florets. He said to his wife, “Do you know you’re smoking broccoli?” She said, “Dude, there’s other stuff with it.” He said, “Yes, but you’re still smoking broccoli!” Then he woke up laughing.

  50. 50.

    johnny

    February 6, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    We’re still living in John Steinbeck’s America. It’s Of Mice and Men all over again. Love the guy, but mercy kill the first time something goes wrong.

    Terrible.

  51. 51.

    jacy

    February 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    @RSA:

    Oh, yes, I remember that well. “Sped” quickly became our favorite perjorative in junior high.

    A few years ago I berated one my kids, who was in junior high at the time, for saying “that’s so gay.” And then I remembered the crap I used to say in junior high school. Yikes. Thankfully most of us grow out of our hidden sociopathic tendencies relatively quickly. Either that or become republicans.

  52. 52.

    nepat

    February 6, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    @jacy:

    Thankfully most of us grow out of our hidden sociopathic tendencies relatively quickly. Either that or become republicans.

    Or not. These tiresome “retarded” posts and threads are more than enough evidence that sociopathic tendencies are not outgrown quickly and that Republicans haven’t cornered the market on bigotry.

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