Just a big thanks to John for getting us all back together again. After the 500+ screaming emails from all of your wards this past week, thankfully it wasn’t you that needed a heart procedure…
2.
CalD
Hope he hasn’t been hitting the MacDonald’s cheeseburgers again.
When Bill Cinton was President a friend’s child always referred to him as “American Bill” whenever he came on the teevee. I’ve always thought that a perfect nickname for him.
Get well soon American Bill. We need you in the game.
6.
pcbedamned
Good thing I clicked on the link. For a minute there, I thought he meant Lily. (Stupid Canadians:)
Blah blah blah blah Bill Clinton, blah blah blah blah Big Macs.
8.
General Winfield Stuck
@Max: I just started my Tomato Plant seedlings indoors, though I don’t know why, cause last year the Deer figured out how to get by layers of fencing and wire to eat them all before I got a single mater.
It’s kind of embarrassing getting out thunk by Deer.
bring on the snark.
9.
Ed Drone
As the “recipient” of two recent “minor heart procedures,” I can sympathize. I bet my nurses weren’t as good-looking as his, though. Competent (extremely), caring (and put-upon, often by me), and good-natured (some of my worst jokes got smiles), yes, but not “lookers.”
I do hope he’s okay. Bad Horse and I bonded over our admiration of Big Dog, so he has a special place in my heart.
14.
Bruce (formerly Steve S.)
It’s times like these I really hate the cable news networks. I realize that Clinton is an important public figure, but once they’ve reported the basic known facts, which takes all of twenty seconds in this case, they just babble on pointlessly for hours.
And, as you write, the deer is standing outside your property line, filing his teeth, drinking some beers with friends, and thinking — do your best my friend — bring it on — I waiting for you…
16.
Violet
I hope he’s okay.
17.
SiubhanDuinne
I’m very relieved to learn that he’s been released and is home. I haven’t always agreed with him, I’ve been very pissed at him on more than one occasion, and I didn’t support Hillary in the 2008 primaries — but the world without Bill Clinton in it would be a much sadder place.
18.
eemom
with Big Dawg, unlike Rushbo or Cheney, at least we know we’re talking about an actual human heart.
I just started my Tomato Plant seedlings indoors, though I don’t know why, cause last year the Deer figured out how to get by layers of fencing and wire to eat them all before I got a single mater.
The only thing you got protecting the indoors from the outdoors is wire fence?? Jaysus, how hillbilly are you, Stuck? Are your frequent computer problems weather-related?
It makes me sad that several of my favorites — irises and daffodils — are on that list, but kittehs are more important.
And for my fellow cat owners, let me emphasize something since Easter is also on its way:
All lilies are HIGHLY toxic to kitties. Like, “Keaton had to spend four days at the vet hooked up to an IV and wasn’t showing any symptoms” toxic. If you even suspect your cat has been nibbling on a lily, get it to the vet immediately.
You need to buy a roll of this. Buy a pair of bolt cutters as well. Cut the mesh into 7-8 square lengths, fold the loose end into hooks and you can hook them into cylinders. Voila! You have your tomato cages! If, however, you DON’T hook them but rather leave them in their natural half-cylinder form and lay them horizontally you have a perfect deer-entanglement system. You would be amazed at how fast the deer stop “visiting” after a round or two with the minefield!
somebody feed this ignorant troll some table scraps so it won’t jump out from under the bridge and bite ankles.
I said seedlings genius. To be transplanted out doors when it’s spring. Now wipe the drool ofin your mouth son and crawl back from wherst you came.
26.
General Winfield Stuck
@apikoros: Instead of fencing off a larger area, I am going to try this cage role thing just tightly around the plants like you say. I have some fencing similar to what you link to. Thanks!
27.
PTirebiter
I can’t help but think of all those can’t go to a cardiologist when they experience discomfort in their chests. They have to wait for a full blown infarction, and then hope they make it to an emergency room that’s equipped. Somehow, I doubt the MSM will make the obvious and timely comparisons. I’m sure Bill enjoyed the attention ad will use it to pitch HCR.
I only have a couple of plants inside the house (which tend to die cause I forget to water them) but I have never had a problem with my kittehs eating any outdoor plants (other than the cat nip which I frequently buy and plant for them), I have some very elderly kittehs and some young uns, never had a problem with plants at all and I have more lilies than you can shake a big stick at.
As for Bill I hope he follows his doctors advice and gets well soon. I am wondering what the book is on Hillary “visiting him before she goes on a long scheduled trip” being a) proof that she is a lesbian and it was a sham marriage, b) proof that she is a saint and should have been president c) proof she is not a real wife cause a good god fearing christian woman would be sleeping by her husband’s bedside and feeding him chicken soup and stuff.
29.
Mike Kay
I gotta feeling Bubba is going to die in the sack, like Rockefeller did.
We had a client who was a construction worker, (you know how hard that is) he was making good money but had no health insurance and made too much to qualify for medicaid. He had chest pains, went to the hospital, he was evaluated and scheduled for an immediate catheterization and stents. The cardiologist showed up, found out he had no health insurance and discharged him, he was advised to “try to go through voc rehab” which routinely takes six weeks. I tell that story to every mother fucker who gives me “there is nothing wrong with our health care system” line.
You’ve been lucky. Their kidneys can be irreversibly damaged within 36 hours of eating a lily.
But it also depends on the cat — if your cat doesn’t eat plants, then it probably won’t suddenly start on a lily. Keaton is a plant-eater, which is one reason we don’t have plants in the house (well, other than cat grass).
I used to buy my cages, then someone suggested this and it’s great! First there’s the savings… I get about 20-25 cages from a 50′ roll (about $2/cage) and second, I can reach into the 5″ mesh to grab tomatoes with no problems. I discovered their anti-deer properties in desperation (I plant beans and beets as well and if you think deer love maters, you have not seen them around beets :-(
Takes about 4-6 hours with a bolt cutter and vise-grips to process a roll of (what I think of as) hardware cloth. BTW, they sell like hotcakes at the local farmers market at $5/per for me in the spring :-)
Some cats are, some cats aren’t. Natasha used to like to eat G’s bamboo plant.
The vet did say that the one advantage that cats have over dogs when it comes to poison is that if something tastes bad, cats will stop eating it. Dogs will just keep eating it anyway.
Wow…Your name defines you well…I guess you forgot the post where Charlie, after his little run, was waiting on the porch for GWS to come home…Must mean something — like maybe Charlie loves the guy????
When I heard them start reporting this on NPR in my car a little earlier — you know, in that second before you know if the man is near-death or ok, all told — I was really surprised to hear myself think “but, but… we still need him!”
There are many arguments to be had over his policies and behavior and I for one am glad I’m not married to him, but the man has also done and continues to do a tremendous amount of good.
And we still need him. (Though that seems like an awfully shabby reason to be pleased that a man pulled through a heart episode. I’m glad for him, and I’m glad for us!).
39.
Tax Analyst
In the early 70’s I had a roommate who was growing pot in a small closet in our apartment. My cat would slip in there if given the opportunity and would nibble at the leaves. It really pissed my roommate off, but all he could do was rail at the cat, which got the expected “what the fuck does this idiot want now?” expression as a response. He wouldn’t hit her because (a) he liked the cat, and (b) I would have thrown his pot-head ass out in the street post-haste.
Don’t know if the cat got a buzz, it was really weak stuff – 1st generation off Mexican dirt weed seeds.
40.
cat48
They keep saying on MSNBC that he is still in the hospital. Maybe they snuck him out, but he got 2 stents today. I would feel better if he were observed about 24 hrs before going home.
I have three cats and have to recommend papyrus as safe, tasty (to the cats), ornamental, and easy to grow. It is a marsh plant and all you need to grow it is a five gallon paint pail. Fill the pail half to three quarters full of dirt, plant the seeds/rhizomes and make the dirt boggy with water. After the shoots reach the top of the pail, fill it with water and keep it full. The only shortcomings are that it is that it is VERY cold sensative (like it suffers at 50 degrees!) so it has to winter inside unless you are in Key West and it wants to be 10′ tall (but it’s a grass, so it tolerates mowing).
My cats eat and fight with the stems and seem to love this plant!
I hear he keeps asking the nurses to give him foley catheter.
I’ve had those, and wouldn’t want another if Miss Universe gave it. I’d recommend he go with the Clenis spongebath
45.
debbie
I don’t see how getting two stints put in is a minor procedure.
46.
lamh31
Good thoughts for Former Prez Clinton,
but seriously, I understand bill clinton is in the hospital, but does this mean we are gonna have to hear a parade of former clintonistas scrambling for a photo-op/interview.
Good lord, Ed Schultz had Lanny “freakin” Davis on?
Yeah, but Lanny always finds away to stumble on stage. He’s like the Larry “Bud” Melman of politics.
49.
DBrown
Minor? Really? I have had one and the death rate for the procedure is 1% – 3% … and another 1% will die within the year (often within 30 days.) Also, no one yet knows the long term death rate due to using stents – tracking has numbers overly to three years and it looks like a 1% death rate may occur for each and every year (dfue to the stent, not other cause) …so, for someone fifty that is not a fun thought over the next twenty to thirty years. Also, due to the effect of the stent, they do see about one in three reclose in a few years resulkting in a new stent or by-pass and no one yet knows what happens after five years relative to closure.
@cat48: He is still in the hospital. According to MSNBC and Fox, he should be released tomorrow. Hillary arrived at the hospital not too long ago.
53.
SiubhanDuinne
I haz a *big* confuzzlement. At 5:00 pm TPM says he’s been released from hospital. At 9:00 pm, his doctors on MSNBC tell me he’s still in hospital. WTF? I mean, really, how am I supposed to know whether to believe the intertubes or the cable teevee?
That heart has turned into a hard, scared lump of hate, almost impossible to do anything to — like an old dried mummy’s hand, dessicated and unkillable for eternity… the only requirement to bathe in bitterness and bile at least once daily and its good for the next millenia
Annie
Just a big thanks to John for getting us all back together again. After the 500+ screaming emails from all of your wards this past week, thankfully it wasn’t you that needed a heart procedure…
CalD
Hope he hasn’t been hitting the MacDonald’s cheeseburgers again.
Redshirt
Glad he’s ok.
Wonder how soon we’ll see any comparisons between this event and what happened to Rush, somehow spun to make Clinton look bad.
I would think it impossible in the normal world, but that’s not the world we live in.
Max
Before this thread degrades into madness..
Good tips for all Pet Parents, especially this time of year, with V Day and springs plantings around the corner, on which plants are poisionous.
Linky here…
Dennis G.
When Bill Cinton was President a friend’s child always referred to him as “American Bill” whenever he came on the teevee. I’ve always thought that a perfect nickname for him.
Get well soon American Bill. We need you in the game.
pcbedamned
Good thing I clicked on the link. For a minute there, I thought he meant Lily. (Stupid Canadians:)
Jay Leno
Blah blah blah blah Bill Clinton, blah blah blah blah Big Macs.
General Winfield Stuck
@Max: I just started my Tomato Plant seedlings indoors, though I don’t know why, cause last year the Deer figured out how to get by layers of fencing and wire to eat them all before I got a single mater.
It’s kind of embarrassing getting out thunk by Deer.
bring on the snark.
Ed Drone
As the “recipient” of two recent “minor heart procedures,” I can sympathize. I bet my nurses weren’t as good-looking as his, though. Competent (extremely), caring (and put-upon, often by me), and good-natured (some of my worst jokes got smiles), yes, but not “lookers.”
Ed
Max
I wonder if Bill’s going to tip his nurses.
Jay in Oregon
@Max:
I saw what you did there…
Jay in Oregon
And in response to John Cole’s twitter challenge…
…I cast my vote for either Hannity or Scarborough.
Bad Horse's Filly
I do hope he’s okay. Bad Horse and I bonded over our admiration of Big Dog, so he has a special place in my heart.
Bruce (formerly Steve S.)
It’s times like these I really hate the cable news networks. I realize that Clinton is an important public figure, but once they’ve reported the basic known facts, which takes all of twenty seconds in this case, they just babble on pointlessly for hours.
Annie
@General Winfield Stuck:
And, as you write, the deer is standing outside your property line, filing his teeth, drinking some beers with friends, and thinking — do your best my friend — bring it on — I waiting for you…
Violet
I hope he’s okay.
SiubhanDuinne
I’m very relieved to learn that he’s been released and is home. I haven’t always agreed with him, I’ve been very pissed at him on more than one occasion, and I didn’t support Hillary in the 2008 primaries — but the world without Bill Clinton in it would be a much sadder place.
eemom
with Big Dawg, unlike Rushbo or Cheney, at least we know we’re talking about an actual human heart.
Bad Horse's Filly
@eemom: Coffee meet computer screen.
General Winfield Stuck
@Annie: LOL I think you are correct.
Mike in NC
Thought at first this had something to do with Alec Baldwin.
Just Some Fuckhead
@General Winfield Stuck:
The only thing you got protecting the indoors from the outdoors is wire fence?? Jaysus, how hillbilly are you, Stuck? Are your frequent computer problems weather-related?
Sorta explains why the dog keeps running off.
Mnemosyne
@Max:
It makes me sad that several of my favorites — irises and daffodils — are on that list, but kittehs are more important.
And for my fellow cat owners, let me emphasize something since Easter is also on its way:
All lilies are HIGHLY toxic to kitties. Like, “Keaton had to spend four days at the vet hooked up to an IV and wasn’t showing any symptoms” toxic. If you even suspect your cat has been nibbling on a lily, get it to the vet immediately.
apikoros
@General Winfield Stuck:
You need to buy a roll of this. Buy a pair of bolt cutters as well. Cut the mesh into 7-8 square lengths, fold the loose end into hooks and you can hook them into cylinders. Voila! You have your tomato cages! If, however, you DON’T hook them but rather leave them in their natural half-cylinder form and lay them horizontally you have a perfect deer-entanglement system. You would be amazed at how fast the deer stop “visiting” after a round or two with the minefield!
General Winfield Stuck
@Just Some Fuckhead:
somebody feed this ignorant troll some table scraps so it won’t jump out from under the bridge and bite ankles.
I said seedlings genius. To be transplanted out doors when it’s spring. Now wipe the drool ofin your mouth son and crawl back from wherst you came.
General Winfield Stuck
@apikoros: Instead of fencing off a larger area, I am going to try this cage role thing just tightly around the plants like you say. I have some fencing similar to what you link to. Thanks!
PTirebiter
I can’t help but think of all those can’t go to a cardiologist when they experience discomfort in their chests. They have to wait for a full blown infarction, and then hope they make it to an emergency room that’s equipped. Somehow, I doubt the MSM will make the obvious and timely comparisons. I’m sure Bill enjoyed the attention ad will use it to pitch HCR.
Litlebritdifrnt
@Mnemosyne:
I only have a couple of plants inside the house (which tend to die cause I forget to water them) but I have never had a problem with my kittehs eating any outdoor plants (other than the cat nip which I frequently buy and plant for them), I have some very elderly kittehs and some young uns, never had a problem with plants at all and I have more lilies than you can shake a big stick at.
As for Bill I hope he follows his doctors advice and gets well soon. I am wondering what the book is on Hillary “visiting him before she goes on a long scheduled trip” being a) proof that she is a lesbian and it was a sham marriage, b) proof that she is a saint and should have been president c) proof she is not a real wife cause a good god fearing christian woman would be sleeping by her husband’s bedside and feeding him chicken soup and stuff.
Mike Kay
I gotta feeling Bubba is going to die in the sack, like Rockefeller did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Marshack
M. Bouffant
At the Veterinary Hospital?
Mike Kay
Ohio just called — they say payback (NAFTA) is a beetch
Litlebritdifrnt
@PTirebiter:
We had a client who was a construction worker, (you know how hard that is) he was making good money but had no health insurance and made too much to qualify for medicaid. He had chest pains, went to the hospital, he was evaluated and scheduled for an immediate catheterization and stents. The cardiologist showed up, found out he had no health insurance and discharged him, he was advised to “try to go through voc rehab” which routinely takes six weeks. I tell that story to every mother fucker who gives me “there is nothing wrong with our health care system” line.
Mnemosyne
@Litlebritdifrnt:
You’ve been lucky. Their kidneys can be irreversibly damaged within 36 hours of eating a lily.
But it also depends on the cat — if your cat doesn’t eat plants, then it probably won’t suddenly start on a lily. Keaton is a plant-eater, which is one reason we don’t have plants in the house (well, other than cat grass).
apikoros
@General Winfield Stuck
I used to buy my cages, then someone suggested this and it’s great! First there’s the savings… I get about 20-25 cages from a 50′ roll (about $2/cage) and second, I can reach into the 5″ mesh to grab tomatoes with no problems. I discovered their anti-deer properties in desperation (I plant beans and beets as well and if you think deer love maters, you have not seen them around beets :-(
Takes about 4-6 hours with a bolt cutter and vise-grips to process a roll of (what I think of as) hardware cloth. BTW, they sell like hotcakes at the local farmers market at $5/per for me in the spring :-)
Litlebritdifrnt
@Mnemosyne:
I do not know why it is but none of them have ever been plant eaters.
Mnemosyne
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Some cats are, some cats aren’t. Natasha used to like to eat G’s bamboo plant.
The vet did say that the one advantage that cats have over dogs when it comes to poison is that if something tastes bad, cats will stop eating it. Dogs will just keep eating it anyway.
Annie
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Wow…Your name defines you well…I guess you forgot the post where Charlie, after his little run, was waiting on the porch for GWS to come home…Must mean something — like maybe Charlie loves the guy????
Guess what — dogs run…
ellaesther
When I heard them start reporting this on NPR in my car a little earlier — you know, in that second before you know if the man is near-death or ok, all told — I was really surprised to hear myself think “but, but… we still need him!”
There are many arguments to be had over his policies and behavior and I for one am glad I’m not married to him, but the man has also done and continues to do a tremendous amount of good.
And we still need him. (Though that seems like an awfully shabby reason to be pleased that a man pulled through a heart episode. I’m glad for him, and I’m glad for us!).
Tax Analyst
In the early 70’s I had a roommate who was growing pot in a small closet in our apartment. My cat would slip in there if given the opportunity and would nibble at the leaves. It really pissed my roommate off, but all he could do was rail at the cat, which got the expected “what the fuck does this idiot want now?” expression as a response. He wouldn’t hit her because (a) he liked the cat, and (b) I would have thrown his pot-head ass out in the street post-haste.
Don’t know if the cat got a buzz, it was really weak stuff – 1st generation off Mexican dirt weed seeds.
cat48
They keep saying on MSNBC that he is still in the hospital. Maybe they snuck him out, but he got 2 stents today. I would feel better if he were observed about 24 hrs before going home.
suzanne
@eemom:
LMMFAO!
apikoros
Mnemosyne, Litlebritdifrnt,
I have three cats and have to recommend papyrus as safe, tasty (to the cats), ornamental, and easy to grow. It is a marsh plant and all you need to grow it is a five gallon paint pail. Fill the pail half to three quarters full of dirt, plant the seeds/rhizomes and make the dirt boggy with water. After the shoots reach the top of the pail, fill it with water and keep it full. The only shortcomings are that it is that it is VERY cold sensative (like it suffers at 50 degrees!) so it has to winter inside unless you are in Key West and it wants to be 10′ tall (but it’s a grass, so it tolerates mowing).
My cats eat and fight with the stems and seem to love this plant!
Mike Kay
@cat48:
I hear he keeps asking the nurses to give him foley catheter.
General Winfield Stuck
@Mike Kay:
I’ve had those, and wouldn’t want another if Miss Universe gave it. I’d recommend he go with the Clenis spongebath
debbie
I don’t see how getting two stints put in is a minor procedure.
lamh31
Good thoughts for Former Prez Clinton,
but seriously, I understand bill clinton is in the hospital, but does this mean we are gonna have to hear a parade of former clintonistas scrambling for a photo-op/interview.
Good lord, Ed Schultz had Lanny “freakin” Davis on?
cat48
@Mike Kay:
They better hurry. Hillary is on her way to NY right now!
Mike Kay
@lamh31:
Yeah, but Lanny always finds away to stumble on stage. He’s like the Larry “Bud” Melman of politics.
DBrown
Minor? Really? I have had one and the death rate for the procedure is 1% – 3% … and another 1% will die within the year (often within 30 days.) Also, no one yet knows the long term death rate due to using stents – tracking has numbers overly to three years and it looks like a 1% death rate may occur for each and every year (dfue to the stent, not other cause) …so, for someone fifty that is not a fun thought over the next twenty to thirty years. Also, due to the effect of the stent, they do see about one in three reclose in a few years resulkting in a new stent or by-pass and no one yet knows what happens after five years relative to closure.
Mike Kay
@DBrown:
so why won’t Cheney die?
Mnemosyne
@Mike Kay:
A contract is a contract.
Church Lady
@cat48: He is still in the hospital. According to MSNBC and Fox, he should be released tomorrow. Hillary arrived at the hospital not too long ago.
SiubhanDuinne
I haz a *big* confuzzlement. At 5:00 pm TPM says he’s been released from hospital. At 9:00 pm, his doctors on MSNBC tell me he’s still in hospital. WTF? I mean, really, how am I supposed to know whether to believe the intertubes or the cable teevee?
muttermutteryoucanttrustanybodythesedays
Elie
@Bad Horse’s Filly:
He has to watch it…I think the stress of Hill’s campaign could not have helped him. He has to stay mellow and stick with that diet.
That said, we all have our time and when its time… its time.
I wish him all the best
Elie
@Mnemosyne:
That heart has turned into a hard, scared lump of hate, almost impossible to do anything to — like an old dried mummy’s hand, dessicated and unkillable for eternity… the only requirement to bathe in bitterness and bile at least once daily and its good for the next millenia
Charity
@Mike Kay: Only the good die young.