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You are here: Home / Sports / All I Said Was Canadian Beer Sucks

All I Said Was Canadian Beer Sucks

by John Cole|  February 21, 20106:16 pm| 409 Comments

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Obligatory USA v. Canada Hockey open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Josh Huaco

    February 21, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Canadian beer does kinda suck. But I like Red Stripe so I have no right to slag anyone’s beer preferences.

  2. 2.

    Anton Sirius

    February 21, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    It takes a brave man to quote the fascinating train wreck that is Canadian Bacon, sir. Well done.

  3. 3.

    Comrade Mary

    February 21, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    I had my beer last night. Tonight is the night I’ve been saving up all my heroin for.

  4. 4.

    ricky

    February 21, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    The Canandian national obsession is now played on franchises liberated from that country to sunbelt suburbs by rich Americans who have stocked the teams with players liberated from totalitariansim by Ronald Reagan’s warm personal magnetism.

  5. 5.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Since I don’t really care about hockey and the words open thread appeared in the op, Google News has shown me what this week’s hissy fit will be: “Domestic Extremism is Top Concern, Napolitano Says FOXNews – ‎16 minutes ago‎”

  6. 6.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    February 21, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    What sucks is the game is on MSNBC.

  7. 7.

    J.W. Hamner

    February 21, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    All I Said Was Canadian Beer Sucks

    With the exception of Unibroue, I’m with you. Canadians have been lapped at least twice by American micro brews. You can basically only declare them the winner by comparing their crappy mass market stuff to Bud.

  8. 8.

    Apsalar

    February 21, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Hubby’s a Canuck, I’m not. We might head down to a bar where a lot of Canadians hang out, so he’s in good company, and I can troll them all with “U S A!” chants.

    But Unibroue is good stuff. I really like Chambly Noir.

  9. 9.

    jl

    February 21, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    All beer is above average. Everyone knows this.

    I can’t believe Cole would stoop so low as to bring beer into an international hocky sporting competition, for narrow jingoistic purposes of national partisanship.

    Fie and for shame. Be civil.

    And what is wrong with Candian bacon?

    I hate to see this blog descend into such depravity.

  10. 10.

    Grisha

    February 21, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    As a Sharks fan, this game’s a bit tricky. I don’t expect the US to win, but I do expect them to injure Chris Pronger. That would be good enough for me.

  11. 11.

    J.W. Hamner

    February 21, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    This game isn’t being streamed somewhere is it?

  12. 12.

    Northern Sooner

    February 21, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Well, John after many years of lurking, I have finally been inspired to pop my cherry balloon juice (ugh). Northern Sooner is the handle, originally from Oklahoma and now living in Montreal.

    The beer is better in Montreal; I’m not sure what is better in Oklahoma…

  13. 13.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    When is the game on? I’ve still got Russia/Czech and USA/GBR curling and the listings are of no use whatsoever.

  14. 14.

    AhabTRuler

    February 21, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: You can always try http://www.atdhe.net, the quality and reliability are variable, but hey, you said you wanted free, right?

  15. 15.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I’m old enough to remember when Canadian beer was far superior to American beer. Of course now, we can drink Belgian beer so there’s no contest.

  16. 16.

    Apsalar

    February 21, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    It’s at 4:40 PST on MSNBC. nbcolympics.com says you can watch online.

  17. 17.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Oh, and my son and I had a discussion and he’s given up all hope of summer sports – the women in the winter games are just spilling over with hotness.

  18. 18.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    @Apsalar: Thanks!

  19. 19.

    Tappen

    February 21, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    @Martin:

    4:30 PST. Got the beer and burgers ready for Canada’s win! I was at the Czech-Russia game, it ended about 240 PST. Great game too. Ovechkin just crushed Jagr at centre ice, 5 seconds later Malkin scores. Fantastic.

  20. 20.

    Joe Buck

    February 21, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    The mass-market Canadian beers are so-so. But there’s an amazing craft brewer in Quebec called Unibroue that makes kick-ass world class Belgian-style beer. Where I live, Bevmo and Cost Plus carry them.

  21. 21.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I have felt tired and useless all day. Now trying to summon the strength to put a baked potato in the oven with enough left over to actually pull it out an hour from now.

    That is all.

  22. 22.

    Michael Bersin

    February 21, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I heard that there’s supposed to be a fight between North Americans – and then a hockey game might break out.

  23. 23.

    AhabTRuler

    February 21, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    @Steeplejack: I could kiss you, both for your repeated affirmation of the baked potato as food fit for kings, but also in that you use the esoteric technology of an oven to produce it.

  24. 24.

    demkat620

    February 21, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Take off Hooser!

    “We’ll take 12, no make that 24 Elsinore”

  25. 25.

    Anya

    February 21, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Try this http://www.hockeywebcasts.com/

  26. 26.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    I’m watching UK vs US men’s curling on tape delay. Then hockey. And I want to watch ice dancing. So much stuff on ice. Not enough time.

  27. 27.

    Linkmeister

    February 21, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    @Martin: How old is your son? :)

    I mean, diving! Swimming! Hell, even track and field! Warm-weather clothing!

    I admit there is something really sexy about long hair spilling over the back of a winter coat’s collar.

  28. 28.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    @Linkmeister: He’s 12. He’s still figuring all this stuff out, but he’s getting there.

  29. 29.

    Robin G.

    February 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    @Bad Horse’s Filly: Indeed. Cant watch. The Russian/Czech game was exciting, though.

  30. 30.

    Mark S.

    February 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    I don’t know a thing about hockey but I was curious: do these national teams get any chance to practice together before the Olympics? I mean, Olympics and world championships in basketball and soccer takes place during the offseason, where teams have at least a month to play together. That’s not the situation in hockey because it’s smack in the middle of the NHL season. Does the quality of play suffer?

  31. 31.

    scav

    February 21, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    @demo woman: I was about to say that in this contest I’m rooting for the Belgians.

  32. 32.

    John Cole

    February 21, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    @Anton Sirius: One of my all time favorite comedies. I wish I were kidding.

  33. 33.

    PaulW

    February 21, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    As a temperate man, I cannot judge the flavors or powers of beer.

    As a librarian, I can tell you that your best option is to check first for the best micro brewery in a 50-mile radius.

    As an American, I can tell you that… what, the major labels are all owned by Euro corporations now?! Never mind…

  34. 34.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Worst late night ‘dinner’ ever. Tim Horton’s, Grand River.

    “Want some soup with that donut, eh?”

  35. 35.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    You know what irritates me? Every four years, people pretend to like the absolutely asinine “sport” of curling. Please.

  36. 36.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Cole, your twitter feed this afternoon/evening is absolutely cracking me up.

  37. 37.

    Incertus

    February 21, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Canada? Are they even a real country?

    The #crushthecanucks hashtag is doing some pretty brisk business right now thanks to owillis and sinfonian.

  38. 38.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    @Kobie:
    Why does that irritate you?

  39. 39.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    @gwangung: do you have the link? I never signed on but love to read john’s feed at times.

  40. 40.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Home from travels to find my balloon juice t-shirt in the mail.

    NBC is streaming the live game IF your cable company or satellite provider or ISP worked out a “deal” with them. No such luck for me. Thanks, NBC! Suck. On. This.

    canadian tv is streaming too, but blocked in the US. is it too much to ask these stupid f**king corporations to figure out the Internet already?

  41. 41.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    On whitehouse.gov they are showing the President give his speech for the governor’s ball. It seems like only yesterday that I watched the gov of SC walk in with his lovely wife.

  42. 42.

    call_me_ishmael

    February 21, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Try http://www.ctvolympics.ca/. They have live streaming coverage of all kinds of olympic stuff. Very useful when you’ve had your fill of NBC.

  43. 43.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    @demo woman: Well, it was both him and TavernWench, so here’s

    http://twitter.com/Johngcole
    and
    http://twitter.com/TavernWench

    (actually, TW is really on fire today….)

  44. 44.

    Emo Pantload (fka Studly)

    February 21, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Hey, some of those girl curlers are teh hawt. I have no trouble convincing myself I like the game.

  45. 45.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    @demo woman: @johngcole

  46. 46.

    Joel

    February 21, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    @Mark S.: Depends on the nation and what leagues their players participate in. Obviously, NHL players don’t get to attend many national practices.

  47. 47.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    @Emo Pantload (fka Studly): Denmark. Canada’s and Great Britain’s skipper…

  48. 48.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Word is that the NHL may hold out on the next Olympic games because the owners don’t like taking two weeks off in the middle of the season. The fact that nobody watches/follows hockey in the US anyway should put that concern to rest.

  49. 49.

    Ash Can

    February 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    I have to wait until Bottle Rocket finishes his homework before I can turn the game on. Phooey.

    @MikeJ:

    Domestic Extremism is Top Concern, Napolitano Says

    Good for her. And let the right-wing pants-shitting begin. Maybe we’ll all get lucky and Fox “News” will not just figuratively but literally drown in its own excrement.

    @demo woman: This. And Unibroue is beautiful stuff.

  50. 50.

    Apsalar

    February 21, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    This Unibroue talk made me thirsty, so I went out to the liquor store that carries it and found Chambly Noire sold out! The guy who works there said Canadians had been buying up the Canadian beer for their “little Olympic watching get-togethers.” Heh. So we had to settle for Ephemere and Maudite, which aren’t bad either.

  51. 51.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    @Kobie:

    You know what irritates me? Every four years, people pretend to like the absolutely asinine “sport” of curling. Please.

    Have you ever actually played it, Mister Snottypants?

  52. 52.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    The game is not on NBC. I cannot watch ctv on my computer and msnbc wants to know my cable provider before allowing me to watch online… wtf…. I’m on antenna
    I just chose a cable provider but now they want an account number..

  53. 53.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @Ash Can:

    As I wrote at the end of a post last week,

    Let’s hope the FBI doesn’t start to profile Angry White Guys. Glenn Beck will cut his own head off in an apoplectic fit of faux outrage…
    …
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaWlUIULE3g
    …
    On second thought, profile away.

    I would love to see even more conservative barking about how addressing domestic terror threats actually oppresses them. All it does is make actual independents think that perhaps the proverbial lady doth protest too much.

  54. 54.

    John Cole

    February 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @RedKitten: Woman. Sign on gmail.

  55. 55.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Oh fer fuck’s sake — the game just STARTED and you guys have already scored.

    If I hadn’t already gotten drunk last night, I’d be doing so tonight.

  56. 56.

    demkat620

    February 21, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Oh snap Team USA came to play!

    How you like dat Martin?

  57. 57.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    @Violet: Because the “sport” is stupid. It’s glorified shuffleboard.

  58. 58.

    scarshapedstar

    February 21, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Boo-yah! Team USA = the Saints of Olympic hockey.

    SUCK IT CANUCKISTAN

  59. 59.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    @RedKitten: I’ve covered it. Haven’t actually played.

  60. 60.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    @demo woman:
    The radio broadcast is being streamed on WGN out of Chicago. Here’s a link.

  61. 61.

    Chat Noir

    February 21, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: But what does Smudge think?

    Picture, plz.

    Kthxbai.

  62. 62.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Thanks..

  63. 63.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    @Kobie:
    Why is it any more stupid than any other “sport?” They’re all stupid in their own way. Don’t watch it if you don’t like it.

  64. 64.

    Nylund

    February 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Molson and Coors are the same company, so nothing can be said there. Labbat vs. Bud? That is a contest with two losers and no winners. If you look at the top ten selling beers in either country, for every Busch and Natural Lite on the US list there is an equally embarrassing Lucky, 50, Kokanee, Carling, or Lakeport on the Canadian list.

    If you pull the micro brew card and go by which country actually makes a the best taking beer, you’re talking about beers that few people drink and can be quite hard to find, you’re getting too far away from what average people actually drink.

    I think the only fair option is to limit your argument to beers readily available at your average grocery store. OOOPS. Forgot. Many Canadians must order beer at a counter from government workers like they’re at some methadone clinic. So readily available beers either at (grocery or government) stores or often on tap at the local bar (and no, not your favorite “biergarten” with 100 varieties on tap does not count).

    In my mind, I’m thinking for America this means things like Anchor Steam, Sierra Nevada, Fat Tire, Blue Moon, Brooklyn Lager, Dogfish Head, Shiner (for you Texans), etc.

    For Canadians? I’m thinking things like Keiths, Steamwhistle, Rickards, Moosehead, etc. I actually don’t know too many “on tap” beers for Canada outside of Ontario.

    Obviously there is still a lot of regionality in this respect. What you find in Alberta is not what you find in Quebec, nor do Portland bars and New York bars keep the same things on tap. But, I think everyone gets the gist of the argument.

    Throw out all the swill, and throw out all the rare weird stuff that few people have ever tasted, much less even heard of. Let’s talk about actual common beer options readily available in every day life. Things you can buy down the street. Stuff you could likely order at your local bar.

  65. 65.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Patrick Kane will celebrate the U.S. goal by punching out a cabbie.

  66. 66.

    ihop

    February 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    there was a time. 10 years ago or so, when no-one here had ever heard of unibroue. i could get cases for 30 bucks or so. now that they are hot, it’s all 50-60 bucks, if they can be gotten, alas.

    try the la fin du monde and the trois pistoles.

    yum.

  67. 67.

    barneyg2000

    February 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Back in collage we drank “F”uck’n “A” beer from Canada for about $2 per six pack (10 OZ beers). 1-Up USA!!!!

  68. 68.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    @Violet: What irritates me is that every four years, people pretend to care about it and act like you’re some kind of barbarian for thinking it’s dumb. Thank you for proving that.

  69. 69.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Jebus, but does Microsoft make doing anything a fucking chore? Silverlight? What, were you not making enough $ because Adobe Flash exists?

  70. 70.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    @Kobie:
    Perhaps people don’t like someone telling them that what they do like is stupid. Even if they only like it every four years.

    Curling isn’t your thing? Don’t bother watching it.

  71. 71.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Why is this not on NBC. They showed the match this afternoon. They could have shown Bode Miller’s gold this afternoon and the USA hockey match tonight. It makes no sense. Oh yeah, that’s the channel that put Leno on at ten.

  72. 72.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    @Violet: Since when was expressing an opinion some kind of thought crime?

  73. 73.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    @Kobie:

    RedKitten: I’ve covered it. Haven’t actually played.

    Well, many people have played, and actually DO find it quite interesting. No, it doesn’t require a ton of physical prowess, but there is quite a bit of skill involved.

    @John Cole: Yes, boss.

  74. 74.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Poop.

  75. 75.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Let’s talk about actual common beer options readily available in every day life. Things you can buy down the street. Stuff you could likely order at your local bar.

    Mack & Jack’s. Scuttlebutt. Pike. Elysian. Hale’s. Pyramid. All available in every store and every bar will have some of them.

  76. 76.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    YESSSSSSSSS!!!!

  77. 77.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    He shoots, he scores!

    Back up!

    (And Rafalski’s gonna need some help…)

  78. 78.

    Chat Noir

    February 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Wow. Nice goal Team Ewe-Ess-Ay.

  79. 79.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    @Kobie:

    @Violet: What irritates me is that every four years, people pretend to care about it and act like you’re some kind of barbarian for thinking it’s dumb.

    What about those of us who actually DO care about it? Or do you think we’re all just pretending?

  80. 80.

    Sirkowski

    February 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Stupid sexy USA and their scoring right after Canada equals the score…

  81. 81.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Yeah…this game might make me break my own rule about not getting drunk two nights in a row.

  82. 82.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    @Kobie:
    Who said it was?

  83. 83.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    There was a couple hotties last night on the curling, but not enough to keep me up.

  84. 84.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Meh, whatever. This was predictable.

  85. 85.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Wait, whose national sport is this? I’m confused.

  86. 86.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    @Kobie:
    You don’t seem to be expressing your opinion about curling. You seem to be expressing your opinion about people who say they like curling. Those are two different things entirely.

  87. 87.

    TR

    February 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Niedermeyer … DEAD!

  88. 88.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    @Violet: I’m not talking about the seven people that actually play/watch/follow curling during non-Olympic years. I’m talking about the people who pop up every four years and act like you’re some kind of an asshole for not watching curling.

  89. 89.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    @Violet: Exactly.

    Kobie, I don’t give a sweet damn if you like curling or not. But your sneering little comment about how people are just “pretending to like curling” was what pissed me off (and evidently, what pissed off Violet as well.) Believe it or not, there are people who have the temerity to find enjoyment in things that you do not enjoy, and it’s really quite rude of you to question their sincerity.

  90. 90.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    What Chat Noir said. Need to see photo(s) of Smmuuuuuuuudge!

    K. Thx. Bai.

  91. 91.

    Comrade Mary

    February 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Dear BJers —

    I have been avoiding the Olympics by cooking for the week while 60 Minutes and The Amazing Race played in the background.

    I just switched the channel and saw the score.

    I had thought I has set aside enough heroin for the night, but obviously not. So does anyone know where I can score some truly excellent smack in the west end of Toronto on a Sunday night? KTHXBYE.

    EDIT: Given that SiubhanDuinne and I posted with the same timestamp AND used the same signoff, maybe I need some Smudge instead of smack. Will consider all possibilities.

  92. 92.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    @Kobie: I’d be very happy to watch curling more often. But it’s only on every 4 years. How is that the fault of the fans?

  93. 93.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    @Kobie:
    Sounds like you hang with a weird crowd if they act like you’re a jerk for not watching curling. Only so much time in the day. You don’t watch curling, that’s your decision. Why should anyone else care? Perhaps they only care if you judge their likes and dislikes as harshly as you seem to be doing in this comment thread.

    @RedKitten:
    Exactly. I know very little about curling, but every four years I get a kick out of re-learning about it and watching the various teams play. I don’t watch all of it, but what I do watch I like.

  94. 94.

    yoodow

    February 21, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    This reminds me of my favorite Canadian joke about American beer.

    What is the difference between the American beer and making love in a canoe?

    Nothing. They are both f-ing close to the water.

  95. 95.

    Anya

    February 21, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Damn! That goal from team US was so unexpected. This could demoralize the Canadian team.

  96. 96.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    February 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    I could tell they were playing Born to Run in the arena just a few minutes ago. Damn Canadians!!

  97. 97.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    This was a very predictable response.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    @RedKitten: I’ve never been fond of the sport myself (it was a varsity sport at my high school), but you guys knock yourselves out. I intend to enjoy the skiing. De gustibus non est disputandum.

    And kick the rude people’s asses while you’re at it.

  99. 99.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    @demo woman:

    They’re trying to build MSNBC’s ratings.

  100. 100.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Thanks dog we got a good goalie.

  101. 101.

    Chat Noir

    February 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    @Violet: When I used to get CBC, I always enjoyed watching curling. I had no idea how the teams scored or how a team would strategize but I liked watching it nonetheless. And then I saw one of our Canadian friends here that explained curling in a nutshell and it helped me understand it a little better.

    The only think I can’t figure is how some of the participants wear short sleeved shirts in an ice rink. Brrr!

    I don’t get CBC since Dish Network doesn’t carry it so it’s nice to see it again during the Olympix.

  102. 102.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    After the way the Russians played, I’m surprised the Czechs didn’t send a few of them off on stretchers – they deserved it.

  103. 103.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    @AhabTRuler:

    Dude, are you snarkin’ me?! The baked potato is great fall-back comfort food when you’re too tired or stressed to make anything else. Wrap it in foil, toss it in the oven, and an hour or so later–voilà!–starchy white-carbs-of-death goodness. And you can dress it so many ways.

    Golly, I think I may have exhausted my retrieving-spud-from-oven energy writing this post. D’oh!

  104. 104.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    I could tell they were playing Born to Run in the arena just a few minutes ago.

    Its a death trap, it’s a suicide rap
    We gotta get out while were young

    I never thought Canada was that bad.

  105. 105.

    Chat Noir

    February 21, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    @mr. whipple: Michigan State Spartans, baybee!

    Sincerely,

    MSU ’89 alum

  106. 106.

    dand

    February 21, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    To quote Monty Python – Why is American beer like making love in a canoe? Both are Fucking close to water.

  107. 107.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    @Kobie:

    This was a very predictable response.

    So sorry that we’re not delighting and surprising you. Perhaps you wish that we would have responded to your insults with an ode to Cheryl Bernard in haiku form?

  108. 108.

    Emo Pantload (fka Studly)

    February 21, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Well, I for one am not pretending to enjoy the curling matches. I’m actually grooving on the players’ skills and the various strategies. (This is my first exposure to the sport, even though I’m in my mid-40s.) The close games are great fun!

    OK, what’s with the 18-6 shots-on-goal advantage for our Canuckian friends? Am I the only one wondering why the Yanks aren’t being a bit more aggressive in getting in the Canadians’ faces when the puck’s in their (Canada’s) end of the rink?

  109. 109.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Perhaps you wish that we would have responded to your insults with an ode to Cheryl Bernard in haiku form?

    I will do an ode to Cheryl Bernard in any form she wants.

  110. 110.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    @RedKitten: My “insults”? Oh, please.

  111. 111.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    @Chat Noir: Hat tip!

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    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Why is this not on NBC. They showed the match this afternoon.

    Thank gopod it’s not on NBC. Everything on NBC is tape delayed. We on the west coast wouldn’t get to see the game live. CNBC and MSNBC coverage is the only thing worth watching because it’s the only thing that isn’t delayed.

  113. 113.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    If this is the reaction to someone who thinks curling is lame, you guys are going to hate me when the World Cup rolls around.

  114. 114.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    @Kobie:

    If this is the reaction to someone who thinks curling is lame, you guys are going to hate me when the World Cup rolls around.

    You’re not big on reading comprehension, are you?

    You aren’t getting this reaction because you think curling is lame.

    You’re getting this reaction because of your snotty, condescending dismissal of people who DO actually like curling, and because of your subsequent, equally snotty comments about how our reactions are oh-so predictable.

    In other words, you’re getting this reaction because you’re being a dick.

  115. 115.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Funny thing is I would have been one of the ones raggin’ on curling. But, because of the “interest” in the team from Demark, I actually watched a match.

    Now, I think it’s pretty cool…who knew?

  116. 116.

    geg6

    February 21, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    USA! USA! Although, of course, as a Pens fan, I can take satisfaction in the Russians’ and Canuckistanis’ good play. As long as we get the gold, that is. ;-P

  117. 117.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Signpost gave a feed to WGN radio so I am listening to it live.

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    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    @RedKitten: I made it abundantly fucking clear I wasn’t talking about people who actually take interest in curling outside of the Olympics. So maybe I’m not the only one who needs a lesson in reading comprehension.

  119. 119.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    @Kobie: You’re going to claim that the world’s most popular sport is lame? Do you have a list of other personal standards you expect the planet to meet?

  120. 120.

    John O

    February 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Great game so far. A hot goalie can be pretty important in hockey!

    Stella and Dweezil are finally starting to do something together other than play. It’s really a lot of fun, and very, very cute and interesting to watch them figure it out.

    Canada is clearly better, but this is why the games are played. One game series’ in any sport should be near 50-50.

    And it seems to me the Americans are a little more willing to lay their pals out.

  121. 121.

    Royston Vasey

    February 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    @Kobie:
    I love me some curling!

  122. 122.

    ajr22

    February 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    @mr. whipple: “There was a couple hotties last night on the curling, but not enough to keep me up.”

    Something disgusting about that sentence…

  123. 123.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Well, that was inevitable.

    Is the USA gonna get any shots on goal?

  124. 124.

    Chat Noir

    February 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    @John O: Beautiful puppehs.

  125. 125.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    @ajr22: But nothing totally unexpected from around here…

  126. 126.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Hope Heatly isn’t driving the team bus home…

    *-I’m a bitter Thrashers fan, and yeah I know it’s a cheap shot…

  127. 127.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    @mr. whipple: How many shots on goal before you win the game? Seems we’ve done okay actually getting it in the goal, which I always thought was the point.

  128. 128.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    @John O:

    And it seems to me the Americans are a little more willing to lay their pals out.

    Are you aware of how profound that statement is?

  129. 129.

    Moonbatting Average

    February 21, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    “Sweet Caroline” a few minutes after Canada ties it? wtf, eh?

  130. 130.

    Svensker

    February 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    @Northern Sooner:

    Had delicious beer in Montreal. Fin du Monde was good — and the t-shirts are awesome. There’s a restaurant across the way near the Fort that had great sausage and beer. Yum.

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    mcd410x

    February 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Right now Canada is just outskating the U.S.

    Are these USA throwback unis?

  132. 132.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    @Nylund:

    Throw out all the swill, and throw out all the rare weird stuff that few people have ever tasted, much less even heard of. Let’s talk about actual common beer options readily available in everyday life. Things you can buy down the street. Stuff you could likely order at your local bar.

    Thank you! I enjoy reading about beer, but sometimes the exotic, I’ll-never-see-this-in-real-life stuff wears a little thin. How about telling me what you would pick up at your average (but well stocked) grocery or liquor store? Or even what you would drink (possibly under duress) at your no-class neighbor’s barbecue, where the most exotic beer in the ice bucket is Michelob Amber?

    For quite a while I was drinking Sam Adams Black Lager, but then my grocery stopped carrying it, so I’ve been casting around for a go-to beer when I just want something good and don’t want to think about all the options. There is a Dogfish Head Ale House practically in the parking lot of my grocery, and I like some of their beers a lot, but, oddly enough, the grocery doesn’t carry them. (Possibly because of the proximity?)

    Right now I’m drinking a Yuengling Black & Tan, which someone (maybe here) recommended as being good for the (low) price. It’s okay. Will be colliding with my baked potato in about 10 minutes.

  133. 133.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    @Kobie:

    I made it abundantly fucking clear I wasn’t talking about people who actually take interest in curling outside of the Olympics. So maybe I’m not the only one who needs a lesson in reading comprehension.

    Oh yes…I remember that:

    I’m not talking about the seven people that actually play/watch/follow curling during non-Olympic years.

    Hm….yeah, no. That was actually still a dig. Basically, you’ve just been really rude, condescending, and unpleasant towards curling and curling fans right from the get-go. Pray tell — did you have some sort of unfortunate experience to make you this way? Or are you just always this dickish about anything that you don’t personally enjoy?

  134. 134.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    @mcd410x:

    Throwback to 1960, not 1980. Some sort of 50-year anniversary tribute or something.

  135. 135.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    @Martin:

    Did you catch Everton-Man Utd yesterday? Granted, Man Utd is a bit off this year, but the Toffees played great! He didn’t score, but I thought Landycakes was the player of the match. Howard played well, too. Bodes well for the US in June.

  136. 136.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    @Kobie: I don’t pretend. I like curling. I like curling very much.

  137. 137.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    @RedKitten: Yes, I had a traumatic curling experience as a youth. Or not.

    I didn’t realize the curling community had such thin skin.

  138. 138.

    AhabTRuler

    February 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Dude, are you snarkin’ me?!

    Non at all, mon frere. The dirt apple roXXor, and there’s no snarkin’ about that.

    I have been getting my spuds from M.O.M.’s or the Farmer’s Market. If you haven’t done so, you must, as there is a noticeable difference in flavor. Crack-tacular!

  139. 139.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Kobie is a classic troll. He came here with the intention of insulting people (over curling, no less! ha!)

    If curling and the people who like it are lame, it is 7×70 times as lame to actually have a chip on your shoulder and hold a grudge about curling and the people who like it.

    So who is the lame-ass now?

    Heh.

    Anyhoo, I like the couples figure skating. But did Canada treat the ice with olive oil this year? So many people fell on their hineys!

  140. 140.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    @Martin: Yes. My personal opinion is that soccer is boring as shit and good play is not rewarded often enough.

  141. 141.

    Ivan Ivanovich Renko

    February 21, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    @ihop: AMEN. I used to go to Ontario regularly on my old job, and made it a point to grab a case or two if each of those. Oh, for a Trois Pistoles right now…

    Oh, shit, that’s right. I’m in India. Any cricket fans in the house?

  142. 142.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    @MikeJ:

    Mack & Jack’s. Scuttlebutt. Pike. Elysian. Hale’s. Pyramid.

    I don’t think my grocery has one of those. Maybe Pike. I’ll have to check. But thanks for the recommendations.

  143. 143.

    Ash

    February 21, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Everything about Canada sucks. Except Winnipeg. Winnipeg is fucking awesome.

  144. 144.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    @Lisa: Oh, now I’m a “troll”? Are you fucking kidding? I’m a semiregular commenter here. God forbid I express a fucking opinion. Jesus Christ.

  145. 145.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Go ahead and express your opinion, troll. But don’t whine because people express an opinion on your opinion. That is boring and only worthy of wingnuts.

    Now drop it, you are boring everyone.

  146. 146.

    kay

    February 21, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    @Lisa:

    Anyhoo, I like the couples figure skating.

    Nothing makes me madder than people who pretend to like couple’s figure skating.

  147. 147.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Kay:

    LOL!!!!

  148. 148.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    @Lisa: Howsabout you a. apologize for referring to me as a “troll” and b. don’t tell me what to do. K?

  149. 149.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    @Kobie: Y’all got a thin skin about being called an ass. Particularly when you’re acting like one.

  150. 150.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    @RedKitten: I’m not linking to you because I want to bust into your flame war here (Kobie’s being a fucktard but that’s not news and seems to be par for the course lately on here, I think BJ needs a resident podiatrist) but I’m watching the game at work with my Canuckistani co-worker who is threatening any cheers for the USA with pain of death. It’s kinda awesome.

  151. 151.

    YellowJournalism

    February 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    You’re not big on reading comprehension, are you?

    You aren’t getting this reaction because you think curling is lame.

    You’re getting this reaction because of your snotty, condescending dismissal of people who DO actually like curling, and because of your subsequent, equally snotty comments about how our reactions are oh-so predictable.

    In other words, you’re getting this reaction because you’re being a dick.

    Too bad there isn’t a gold medal for snark. And that’s not even one of her better entries…

  152. 152.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    @Kobie:

    I didn’t realize the curling community had such thin skin.

    Nah — we just aren’t crazy about people who think they’re clever and cool for shitting all over other people’s tastes. But maybe we are too thin-skinned. I’m sure if you talk to some football fans and tell them that you think football sucks and that all of those Super Bowl viewers are only pretending to like the game, you’ll receive a very warm reception.

  153. 153.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    @kay: Because that’s what I said. “Nothing makes me madder.” Right.

    Actually I said I found it “irritating.” But whatevs. Enjoy your glorified shuffleboard.

  154. 154.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    @Ash:

    Everything about Canada sucks. Except Winnipeg. Winnipeg is fucking awesome.

    I think my mom would say the exact opposite of every one of those statements. But then again, she was born in Winnipeg.

  155. 155.

    Comrade Mary

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Kobie: No, you didn’t make it abundantly fucking clear. In your original comment, you talked about people (no subsets of fakers versus the genuine stated or implied) pretending to like curling. And when you got reasonably polite responses asking for you to clarify, you did not clarify, but repeated the same generalized assertion of fakery, then complained that people disagreeing with you were accusing you of a thought crime.

    So in the spirit of international cooperation, I suggest you drink more, think more and type less, until you reach the awesomely mellow stage of drunkenness rather than staying in the fighty stage of drunkenness. Or just don’t drink at all and grow the fuck up.

  156. 156.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Kobie:

    a. No

    b. No

  157. 157.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    @kay: Especially in cowboy outfits. lol

  158. 158.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    At least I can rest easy knowing I’m not the one who started in with the name-calling. It’s not often I win that battle.

  159. 159.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    @#155

    LMAO!

  160. 160.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    @Yutsano: BWAH HAH HAH!

    Somehow, I am just tickled pink by all the woofing being done about this game. Just cracks me up.

  161. 161.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    @Comrade Mary:

    I’m not talking about the seven people that actually play/watch/follow curling during non-Olympic years. I’m talking about the people who pop up every four years and act like you’re some kind of an asshole for not watching curling.

    Read further down the thread.

  162. 162.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    @Steeplejack: I was mainly having a go, since those are all local to Seattle. But yes, all of those are in QFC and Safeway and Metropolitan Market. Sometimes I’ll even get beer the has travelled long distance to get here, like from Portland or Hood river.

    The best beer is usually from within 50 miles of where ever you are, but may not be universally true.

  163. 163.

    demo woman

    February 21, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Tuesday night I will be cheering for Joannie Rochette if she does skate.

  164. 164.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    @gwangung: Yeah well at least we’re watching it at work, though now she’s regretting calling in sick and I’m regretting not calling for pizza so that it would arrive on my lunch hour, but c’est la vie. Or aprés vie.

    @MikeJ: I think that rule may only apply to the Northwest, since we have that whole microbrew culture thing going on. I could be wrong about this though.

    @Anya: Kinda, except they’re gonna have to guard the goal better when Brodeur leaves the net and they’re gonna have to check harder if they want the US to behave. The fact that it’s still tied is pretty cool though.

  165. 165.

    Anya

    February 21, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    The Canadian team is clearly superior. I will be surprised if they lose.

  166. 166.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 21, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Curling looks kinda fun to me. Sorta like bocce on ice.

  167. 167.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I guess Kobie got his attention-whore fix for the night. Thanks for hijacking the thread to feed your emotional issues.

    Okay so back to the Olympics…

  168. 168.

    Comrade Mary

    February 21, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    @Kobie: Took you more than three posts to get to that point. You have argued that all you were saying in your original comment was drawing that distinction, but it took you much longer to clarify — or, possibly, to cover your ass.

    Really, work on the communication thing.

  169. 169.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    @demo woman:

    Why is this not on NBC.

    Ice dancing draws better ratings. Plus, 3 hours is a long time to devote to one event, and hockey fans don’t want breaking away for other events. That’s the explanation I read the other day.

  170. 170.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    @Lisa: Oh, get bent.

  171. 171.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    @Anya:

    The Canadian team is clearly superior. I will be surprised if they lose.

    THESE COLORS DON’T RUN!

    U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

  172. 172.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    I gotta remember to bookmark this thread in case one of you ever says anything negative about anyone’s tastes, ever. Since I’m apparently “shitting all over” yours.

  173. 173.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    He SCOOOOREEES!

  174. 174.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    WooHoo!

  175. 175.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Exactly. I’ve never curled (?), but I’ve played bocce ball and it is very fun.

  176. 176.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Everything about Canada sucks. Except Winnipeg. Winnipeg is fucking awesome.

    I’ve never actually been to Winterpeg — will have to head out there one of these years and judge its awesomeness for myself. But your first two sentences are oh-so-wrong.

  177. 177.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Woo!

    Man, the Canadian team is clearly much better, but we’ll take the sloppy goal.

  178. 178.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    In other news, DRUUUUUUUUUUUURY

  179. 179.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Curling looks kinda fun to me. Sorta like bocce on ice.

    Now if I could just find a droid that speaks bocce, I might understand this intriguing, but beguiling sport.

  180. 180.

    AhabTRuler

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    @Steeplejack: Steep, if you ever get the chance, go toi Chevy Chase Liquors on Connecticut Ave in NW. It’s about two or three blocks south of Chevy Chase Circle, where Conn Ave meets Western Ave. It’s also only about 6 or 7 blocks from Friendship Heights metro.

    Anywho, CCL has a incredibly massive selection of domestic and imported beers, and some really awesome guys who work there. They also have a good wine and liquor selection, but the beers are my primary attraction.

  181. 181.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    @Kobie:

    dOOd…just let it go…

  182. 182.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    I agree JSF. It does look fun.

  183. 183.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Nah, it’s not just here. I’ve lived in Boston, DC, and London and it was true in those places too. If it wasn’t for the existence of Shiner I would have guessed it was limited to places with a certain population density, but they prove you can make great beer anywhere, even in Texas.

  184. 184.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    @RedKitten: I’ve been to Winnipeg twice. It sucked both times. Love Nova Scotia, Montreal, Vancouver, pretty much every part of Canada except Winnipeg.

    Oh well, different tastes perhaps.

  185. 185.

    Emo Pantload (fka Studly)

    February 21, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    USA, bitchez!!

  186. 186.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Watch the game, guys!

    Hot action in the last two minutes.

  187. 187.

    Lisa

    February 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    I love Vancouver. Toronto is amazing, but Vancouver rules. Maybe I have a bias because I am from the West Coast of the US and Vancouver has that Northern California groove to it.

  188. 188.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Ok, if the US wins this game, they’re never going to wear a different uniform in the Olympics ever.

  189. 189.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    @RedKitten: Don’t do it. You are not missing anything, except cold and flat (or mosquitos and flat, depending on the time of year)

    Sure is a boring hockey game, eh?

  190. 190.

    Comrade Mary

    February 21, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Am I going to have to crush and snort some 292s to at least get a codeine hit? Or is it going to have to be the dread Amaretto?

  191. 191.

    Katie5

    February 21, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    American beer sucks. As evidence I give you Cheval Blanc and St. Ambroise Abricot. And curling is fantastic. Could do with some violence, though (some broom-on-broom action).

  192. 192.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Love the bone-crunching board hits in 5.1 Doubly digital surround.

  193. 193.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    @Kobie:

    I gotta remember to bookmark this thread in case one of you ever says anything negative about anyone’s tastes, ever. Since I’m apparently “shitting all over” yours.

    You know, there IS a bit of a difference between saying something negative about something that someone else likes, and being utterly dismissive and contemptuous towards the people who like it. You were doing the latter, which is why your statements have not made you popular.

    Like I said, if, during the Super Bowl, you visited the thread for the sole purpose of basically saying, “I think football sucks, and I think that all of you people watching the Super Bowl are just pretending to like the sport”, do you really think people would say, “Gee…that Kobie. He’s a SWELL guy, isn’t he?” If so, you might want to spend a little less mental energy on your hatred of curling, and a little more mental energy working on your people skills.

    Because believe me…they’re lacking.

  194. 194.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    @Lisa: I’m just three hours south of Vancouver, and I love it–gorgeous city. But Toronto is pretty damn amazing, too—a laid back sophistication I find appealing.

  195. 195.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    @gwangung:

    Would love to, but I’m caught in the crossfire of corporate comglomerate factions, ratings whores, and the live feed is intermittent, or in Russian and a tad less intermittent.

  196. 196.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    @Katie5:

    And curling is fantastic. Could do with some violence, though (some broom-on-broom action).

    You. Win.

  197. 197.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    @RedKitten: Thanks for the lecture.

  198. 198.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    I, for one, will welcome our new Canadian overlords. They seem to have gotten the health care shit down. And the ones I’ve met have an amazingly laid back attitude compared to … oh, I don’t know … the glenn becks/rush limbaughs of the world.

  199. 199.

    kay

    February 21, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    @demo woman:

    I liked that dance. Skate. Skit?
    I thought those were kind of admirably low-key outfits, for figure skaters.
    Sure, in the regular world, it’s crazy to wear chaps skating, but in their wacky world? That’s the equivalent of sweatpants and a t-shirt.

  200. 200.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    @Katie5: How about in men’s curling any dead stones can be fired back up sheet by the other team to take out the sweepers?

  201. 201.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    @RareSanity: I have been trying to hold back an NYPD reference, but apparently I just failed.

  202. 202.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Does Canada even have the equivalent of a Rush Limbaugh?

  203. 203.

    Evan

    February 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    This game is not disappointing. If Canada could do, well . . . anything else as well as they play hockey, they’d be a real force on the international stage.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    @RareSanity: Ten it would be broomball with rocks. People would die.

  205. 205.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    @Kobie:

    I’m beginning to think you enjoy getting spanked.

    C’mon, life is short.

  206. 206.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    @Kobie:

    @RedKitten: Thanks for the lecture.

    Well, you seemed to be so blessedly perplexed on why people are not finding you to be a ray of sunshine on a dreary day, so I thought I’d do you a favour and enlighten you.

    I can also advise you on how to remove that gigantic stick from up your ass, if you wish.

  207. 207.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    @mr. whipple: I stopped giving a shit the second the name-calling started. Now I’m just seeing how holier-than-thou people can get.

  208. 208.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I, for one, will welcome our new Canadian overlords. They seem to have gotten the health care shit down. And the ones I’ve met have an amazingly laid back attitude compared to … oh, I don’t know … the glenn becks/rush limbaughs of the world

    I very much prefer Canada’s Rush to the gasbag from the United Stated with that first name.

    And I hope the rumor is true that the Canadian version will be part of the closing ceremonies.

  209. 209.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    @RedKitten:

    I can also advise you on how to remove that gigantic stick from up your ass, if you wish.

    HA! Pot, meet kettle.

  210. 210.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why is it that my edit function fails as soon as I notice a typo?

  211. 211.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Also, FYWP

  212. 212.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    @MikeJ:

    [. . .] all of those are in QFC and Safeway and Metropolitan Market.

    Not in the Safeways around here (NoVA). Hell, there’s not even a QFC or a Metropolitan Market around here.

    The best beer is usually from within 50 miles of wherever you are, but may not be universally true.

    Yeah, what if you live in Bobo, Mississippi, and the biggest town in 50 miles is Pascagoula? Not every place has that rich microbrewery tradition going on. Hence the request for recommendations on beers that have national or at least regional distribution.

  213. 213.

    Cat Lady

    February 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    @Kobie:

    BITE ME. My dead Canadian born father who loved hockey and loved America and loved his Nova Scotian roots who never said a bad word about anybody also would want me to tell you to BITE ME.

    +4

  214. 214.

    John O

    February 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    One of the more entertaining hockey games I can remember seeing through 2.

    Good, smart, hard, clean, tough hockey is fun to watch.

    USA, USA!

    (I’m OK if Canada wins…never met a ‘Nuck I didn’t like.)

  215. 215.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    @Kobie:

    Does Canada even have the equivalent of a Rush Limbaugh?

    Ever heard of Father Poutine?

  216. 216.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Maimed, maybe. But that’s half the fun!

  217. 217.

    mcd410x

    February 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Canada, we see your Unibroue and raise you an Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout and a Dogfish Head 90 Min IPA.

    Game. Set. Match.

  218. 218.

    Gordon, The Big Express Engine

    February 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that if the US holds on here, it is a victory for our way of life and our system of healthcare.

  219. 219.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    @mr. whipple: There’s actually someone named “Father Poutine”?

  220. 220.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Bode wins!

  221. 221.

    Anya

    February 21, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    I think the Canadian goalie is blinded by all the red in the arena. WTF, I went to the toilet and another goal.

  222. 222.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    @Gordon, The Big Express Engine: A U.S. victory would be a clear repudiation of Obamacare. Also.

  223. 223.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    @John O: Right with you.

  224. 224.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    HA! Pot, meet kettle.

    Now THAT was a very predictable response, as someone once said.

    You know that free time that I said should go towards your people skills? You might also want to spend a bit of time coming up with some better comebacks, before you start breaking out the old “I’m rubber and you’re glue” zinger.

  225. 225.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    @Kobie: LOL. No.

    But it sounded good.

  226. 226.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    @Kobie: Sarah Palin is a hockey mom. Also.

  227. 227.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Bode wins!

    About 4 hours ago. I f’in hate NBC.

  228. 228.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Apologies to all the hockeys mom who are not Sarah Palin.

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    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    @Steeplejack: Homebrew.

    But I think people fail to recognize how many places consider Sam Adams to be an exotic beer, and anything not Budweiser to be imported.

  230. 230.

    MikeJ

    February 21, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    @MattR:

    About 4 hours ago. I f’in hate NBC.

    And it will still be another three hours before they show it in the media market a little over 100 miles from where it happened.

    Fuck NBC.

  231. 231.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    @MattR: I avoided learning that earlier. I wanted to enjoy the event.

  232. 232.

    Gordon, The Big Express Engine

    February 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: welcome to about 7 hours ago… the live stuff is on msnbc

  233. 233.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    @MikeJ: It does kinda refute the East Coast Bias argument, though. They are assholes without prejudice.

  234. 234.

    PTirebiter

    February 21, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Did you try the hat shop at the Four Seasons? You can almost always cop at Dave’s Ice Cream, and in a pinch, the price of methadone is like .08 cents American.

  235. 235.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Good game. Can’t take my eye off the screen, or I’ll miss something.

  236. 236.

    ukko

    February 21, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    @Apsalar: QQQWWWWEEESSSSTTTT (said in a spittle flecked Shatner voice.)

    They only allow streaming if your ISP payed NBC for the privilege of carrying the stream, and my QWEST DSL service was not one of them.

    They have made an advocate for net neutrality for life!

  237. 237.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    @gwangung: I wish I could pay better attention to it. I’m at work, watching out of the corner of my eye while I try to get my pages done and I get yelled at on the internet. I’m multitasking!

  238. 238.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    @MikeJ:

    Oh, sure, it’s NBC’s fault.

    I seem to remember a certain hockey game 30 years ago that was played in the late afternoon in the Eastern Time Zone, but went un-aired until primetime. And that was in the days when ABC had the Olympics.

  239. 239.

    Gordon, The Big Express Engine

    February 21, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: too hard to avoid the internet these days, but kudos to you for holding out. I accidently didn’t know who won the women’s super g until prime time and was surprised to see Vonn take that spill

  240. 240.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I avoided learning that earlier. I wanted to enjoy the event.

    I wish I could do that. I find it nearly unavoidable if I do any surfing, either channel or Web, before it airs and I don’t really care enough to stay away from the Internet and TV.

  241. 241.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That elitist Obama wouldn’t play a sport so blue-collar. He probably watches soccer or something like that.

    (Before anyone gets the vapors, I am not picking on soccer fans.)

  242. 242.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Thanks to whoever recommeneded Oliver Willis’ twitter feed. Freaking hilarious.

    http://twitter.com/owillis

  243. 243.

    Gordon, The Big Express Engine

    February 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    @Andy K: NBC knows what its doing. They knocked off American Idol last week. The prime time ratings have been incredible this Olympics.

  244. 244.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    @gwangung: Yeah, this is a fantastic game.

  245. 245.

    Katie5

    February 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    CTV isn’t much better than NBC. Just that CTV offers ~12 channels streaming. So I can watch ski cross and figure skating without commentary!

  246. 246.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    @Gordon, The Big Express Engine: Yeah, the motherfuckers pre-empted my Thursday night shows though. My only complaint so far. The tape-delay stuff doesn’t bother me.

  247. 247.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    @Kobie: One of the things I liked about Clinton is that he had played some rugby while at Oxford.

    That elitist Obama wouldn’t play a sport so blue-collar. He probably watches soccer or something like that.

    Maybe it’s just me, but basketball doesn’t seem too elitist.

  248. 248.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    @mr. whipple: Oh, God, yes!

  249. 249.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Team USA needs to keep forward Harry Reid on the bench, or they’ll surely lose.

    YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  250. 250.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    He shoots! He scores!

  251. 251.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    He shoots! He scores!

  252. 252.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    and BOOM goes the dynamite.

  253. 253.

    MattR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    @Gordon, The Big Express Engine: I really don’t think it would kill the prime time ratings if they showed the alpine skiing live on an alternate network and then covered it in prime time on NBC like they do now.

    And it’s a power play GGGGOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL!!!!!

  254. 254.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Woo!

    Man, the US is catching the breaks this game.

  255. 255.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    @gwangung: USA! USA! USA!

  256. 256.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is the way Obama plays it. Or something like that.

  257. 257.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Gordon, The Big Express Engine:

    And it’s hard to blame them for doing it that way.

    The US television markets have been- wait…GOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!- been IOC’s cash cow for years, and they’ve got to maximize their returns on what are risky investments. I mean, really, which Winter Olympic sporst aren’t niche programming?

  258. 258.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Martin: They’re getting outworked and outskated big time.

  259. 259.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hah! Yesssssss!

    (I have no problem doing the cheer when the US team is an equal or an underdog).

  260. 260.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hah! Yesssssss!

    (I have no problem doing the cheer when the US team is an equal or an underdog).

  261. 261.

    sbjules

    February 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Wow. How with Canada react if the US lead holds?

  262. 262.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Good game — it would have been nice if our team had shown up, instead of this bunch of old ladies.

  263. 263.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Somehow I missed the explanation why we’re playing on a North American rink rather than an international one. Did they decide to go with local rules or something, to save on construction expenses? Can anyone fill me in?

  264. 264.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    I really can’t believe an open thread about the US vs. canada hockey game descended into a pissing match about curling … oh, wait, it’s balloon juice.

    never mind.

  265. 265.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    @RedKitten: Pool play. Wouldn’t be surprised if Canada crushes them in medal play.

  266. 266.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    @RedKitten: Now now. Canada is playing very well – the puck just isn’t rolling their way.

    Canada needs to score on this power play, though.

  267. 267.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    @Martin:

    Somehow I missed the explanation why we’re playing on a North American rink rather than an international one. Did they decide to go with local rules or something, to save on construction expenses? Can anyone fill me in?

    saving money, because they would have had to take away rows of seats to reconfigure the ice. At least that’s the explanation I heard.

  268. 268.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    @gwangung: The USA is just good in Olympic years ending in zero.

  269. 269.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: That was a smart call – especially since 80% of the amateurs out there play in the NHL.

  270. 270.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Wow. How with Canada react if the US lead holds?

    They will fart in our general direction.

  271. 271.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    They will fart in our general direction.

    Well, most countries do that generally, but anything special?

  272. 272.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    @mr. whipple: They’ll send more cold air down this way. Perhaps Bryan Adams will release a double live album.

  273. 273.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I wondered why the face-off circles looked huge…

    Damn, you’d figure that an arena that was built not all that long ago would have been designed to be convertible. I’d figure, anyway.

  274. 274.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @RedKitten: You should hear the swearing going on right behind me. A Canadian ain’t happy with the results so far. Then again still five minutes left in the game. I’ve seen three goals happen in that little time before.

  275. 275.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @Kobie:

    Perhaps Bryan Adams will release a double live album.

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

  276. 276.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @Martin:

    At least there are no steel I beams in the middle of the ice.

  277. 277.

    Nylund

    February 21, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    I enjoyed my few years in Toronto, minus the hours spent freezing my butt off waiting for the streetcar, but I’d take it over my current home in Texas in a heartbeat. BUT, I must say, its awesome being back in a place where you can just walk across the street and buy beer until well into the night.

    I know it differs in different provinces, but do people in Ontario realize how utterly absurd their beer purchasing system is?

    You have to go to a government run store (where ever that may be located), stand in a long line, then tell some person at a counter what type of beer you want. And remember, since this person is passing this information on to a warehouse who will then send the beer out on a conveyor belt, you must also specify what type of container your beer will come in, and how many of these containers you want. Then, to top it all off, they ask you to pay this absurd price that’d cause riots in the US. The price alone pretty much forces one to drink the crappiest of Canadian beers.

    But, compared to wine, their beer system is heaven! For wine you have to trek even further then to either have the option of paying $10 a bottle for crappy Canadian wine or nearly $20 for some crappy California bottle (like Fetzer) that you could buy in California for $4-5.

    TRUE Canadian beer story. An American friend of mine visited me in Toronto. We were at a party. I said, “wanna see something funny? Go around and ask everyone to name the first fancy beer they can think of.” My friend walked off and came back 10 minutes later nearly peeing herself with laughter because, as I had expected, EVERYONE answered Heineken. (Due to absurd beer pricing policies, it is often the most expensive beer at many Toronto bars, giving it a reputation amongst many “lay person” beer drinkers as being “fancy”)

    Another TRUE Canadian beer story. My girlfriend was visiting her family in Ottawa and called to tell me that her friends were driving distances of nearly an hour into Quebec to find the much in demand (and hard to find) Bud Lite Lime that was then currently all the rage.

    Final TRUE Canadian beer story. I went to a wedding and we were drinking beer earlier in the day and I grabbed a Coors Light out of the cooler and one of the people in the wedding party took it back and said, “hey, save the good stuff for the reception!” and handed me a Carling instead.

    TRUE American beer story. People in my part of Texas drink Miller Lite with some strange sense of civic pride and its consumption by far dominates every other brand available. Suggesting that it sucks is akin to pissing on the constitution. My Canadian girlfriend loves pointing that out whenever I tell one of the above “TRUE Canadian beer” stories.

  278. 278.

    TR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I think the smaller NHL-size rink was something Canada pressed for as the host country in hopes that it would give their boys an edge over the European teams.

  279. 279.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Canada really isn’t showing up here in the 3rd. They’re really cautious on the power play, especially compared to how they were playing in the 1st.

  280. 280.

    TR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    MILLER!

  281. 281.

    gwangung

    February 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Wow! Great saves!

  282. 282.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    @gwangung:

    Pool play. Wouldn’t be surprised if Canada crushes them in medal play.

    Meh…I’m not betting any proverbial farms. Your goaltending is just way too damn good. The dude is like a fracking brick wall.

  283. 283.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Damn. Miller is having an awesome game.

    ETA: we all just jinxed ourselves, huh?

  284. 284.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Jeeebus, I’m spazzing.

  285. 285.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Then again…. :)

  286. 286.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    F-CK!

  287. 287.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    @AhabTRuler:

    Thanks for the tip. Don’t get to leafy Northwest very often, but I’ll check it out.

  288. 288.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    @RedKitten: You put some kind of hex on him, didn’t you?

  289. 289.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    That was a nice goal, but I don’t know how they didn’t score on that previous play with basically an empty net.

  290. 290.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    If we win I won’t burn a flag tomorrow.

  291. 291.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    If I was capable of hexing him, I would have done it before now and saved my fellow Canucks all of this stress.

    Man, oh man…when it was 4-2, I was resigned to a loss. But now I’m starting to hope again, and it’s stressing me out.

  292. 292.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    This is exciting and I don’t even like hockey, although I think people who do are a fine bunch of people. ;-)

  293. 293.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    @RedKitten: Your guys definitely woke up.

  294. 294.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Holy crap, clear the puck guys!

  295. 295.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I can’t even look.

  296. 296.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Well, fuck.

  297. 297.

    TR

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  298. 298.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  299. 299.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    That was wicked!

  300. 300.

    Apsalar

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!! U S A!!

  301. 301.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    And that is why defence wins championships.

  302. 302.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Bah!

  303. 303.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Great game.

  304. 304.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    @You Don’t Say:

    I didn’t like hockey either until an extremely astute friend of mine told me, “Think basketball on ice, not soccer.”

  305. 305.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    How freakin good is Ryan Miller? I get to watch him all the time. :)

  306. 306.

    gbear

    February 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    For all the curling junkies here: The St. Paul curling club has a link called ‘Curl Cam’ in the ‘About’ pull down menu.

  307. 307.

    demkat620

    February 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Schweet! Canucks crushed!

  308. 308.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    I think my screaming scared the cats. Not a one to be found.

  309. 309.

    RedKitten

    February 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Credit where it’s due — Miller definitely was the hero of this game, especially when you look at the shots on net. His team owes him, big time.

  310. 310.

    Martin

    February 21, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Wow. That. Was. Awesome.

    The US better not forget how to play defense, because that’s clearly the strength of the team.

  311. 311.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    @demkat620: Bah. This is my penance for rooting for the ancestral homeland.

  312. 312.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    I believe the phrase is “stood on his head.” nice win, U.S. – now fix our f**ked political system while you’re at it.

  313. 313.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    @RedKitten: Yup.

  314. 314.

    demkat620

    February 21, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    That was the best hockey game I have ever seen. That was great!

  315. 315.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Miller looks like he needs about 10 gallons of fluids.

  316. 316.

    cay

    February 21, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Thanks JC–my aunts, uncles, and cousins are Canadian, and now I have bragging rights until the final!

  317. 317.

    Nylund

    February 21, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    As an American I am very happy Team USA own. As an American who dates a Canadian who now hates all things American, I KNOW this means I’m not getting any until at least mid-April.

  318. 318.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    @Nylund: Wait until the medals are awarded. Things might get better for you.

  319. 319.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    @Nylund:

    Ouch.

    Bittersweet victory, huh?

  320. 320.

    Josh Huaco

    February 21, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    That was for Nickelback, Canada. Yew Ess Ay! Yew Ess Ay! Yew Ess Ay!

    JH +3

  321. 321.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @demkat620:

    Not even close to this.

  322. 322.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @Josh Huaco:

    That was for Nickelback, Canada.

    That. Was. Funny.

  323. 323.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @RareSanity: Ooh, that may help me change my mind about hockey.

  324. 324.

    Phantomist

    February 21, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Did MSNBC finally find programming that can challenge the Mao mongers?

  325. 325.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    @Josh Huaco:

    Six more USA wins and we’re even for Celine Dion.

  326. 326.

    Violet

    February 21, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    That was an excellent game! Now I’m on to watching the NBC prime time stuff that I’ve got recording on the DVR. Following the Olympics feels like a full time job!

  327. 327.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    @You Don’t Say:

    Worked for me.

    And I’m a black guy, raised in the south, that played football from the ages of 7 to 22.

  328. 328.

    Steeplejack

    February 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @Martin:

    Homebrew.

    Yeah, thanks, rub it in.

    What you said is true: the beer snobs forget that there are vast expanses of this country where you cannot find anything more exotic than Sam Adams, Dos Equis or a lonely, skunked six-pack of Kirin at the end of the freezer.

  329. 329.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @Josh Huaco:

    That was for Nickelback, Canada.

    LOL

  330. 330.

    burnspbesq

    February 21, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    @Kobie:
    “If this is the reaction to someone who thinks curling is lame, you guys are going to hate me when the World Cup rolls around.”

    No worries, dude. We already hate you.

  331. 331.

    burnspbesq

    February 21, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    @Kobie:
    “If this is the reaction to someone who thinks curling is lame, you guys are going to hate me when the World Cup rolls around.”

    No worries, dude. We already hate you.

  332. 332.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Back to ice dancing. They should hit each other with sticks.

  333. 333.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    @mr. whipple: And big rocks?

  334. 334.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    @demkat620:

    Or this, if you can stand watching a game with bad camera focus and low volume, broken up into roughly 30 5-minute chunks.

  335. 335.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    @burnspbesq: “We”? “Hate”? Jesus, is that all it takes around here — a crack at curling — to go from innocuous semiregular commenter to evil vilified troll?

  336. 336.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    @Kobie:

    Jesus, is that all it takes around here—a crack at curling—to go from innocuous semiregular commenter to evil vilified troll?

    Well, if you’re a semi-regular, you know this is a pretty cantankerous, cynical, “get off my lawn” bunch…

    TL;DR: Yes. Now, get off my lawn!

  337. 337.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    @Kobie:

    Drop it already. It was your persistence that made it so ugly.

  338. 338.

    mr. whipple

    February 21, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    John Denver: automatic 10 point deduction for bad taste.

  339. 339.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    @Kobie:

    Jesus, is that all it takes around here—a crack at curling—to go from innocuous semiregular commenter to evil vilified troll?

    Dude (if you are a dude), you haven’t been around that much, apparently. I would say you might fall into that middle zone. Not quite BoB or Sanka, but you’ve touched the curling nerve.

    The best advice I can give is don’t bring up DADT and stop digging. now.

  340. 340.

    Dismayed Liberal

    February 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Somehow I missed the explanation why we’re playing on a North American rink rather than an international one. Did they decide to go with local rules or something, to save on construction expenses? Can anyone fill me in?

    I actually think this is the NHL flexing its muscles a little with the Olympics. It would prefer the NHL rink for the reasons you mention above, but also just because it’s their rink.

    I think its safe to say that with Canada and the US both having had the Winter Olympics in the 21st century, it will be a while before either nation gets it again. The NHL is therefore a little less interested than the IOC in having the relationship continue into the future, so the IOC is not willing to impose this Olympic standard on hockey and risk annoying the NHL. Furthermore, with almost all of the players on all the medal contenders playing in the NHL, there is less of a concern that you are unfairly advantaging Canada/US with the use of a North American rink, so there was no other nation to protest the IOC’s rolling over on this.

  341. 341.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 21, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    @mr. whipple: I will never understand the scoring system for ice dancing…

  342. 342.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Follow Up:

    I have noticed that BJ, in general, is pretty hospitable to trolls. Never hear much about “banning”.

  343. 343.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    @Dismayed Liberal:

    I think its safe to say that with Canada and the US both having had the Winter Olympics in the 21st century, it will be a while before either nation gets it again.

    Next Winter Games is in Sochi, Russia. After that I’m not entirely certain if they’ve been awarded for 2018. I think this is an accurate assessment however.

  344. 344.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    @RareSanity: I really do honestly hope you’re not referring to me as a “troll”?

  345. 345.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Wait, what? You’re actually mentioning me and BoB in the same fucking sentence? Seriously?

  346. 346.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    @Andy K: If I keep getting nasty replies, I’m going to respond to them.

  347. 347.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    @RareSanity:

    Commenters here, for the most part, tend to know better than to award questionable behavior with attention, negative or not. At least compared to other sites that I read regularly.

  348. 348.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    @Kobie:

    In totality, no.

    I do think that your comments in this thread have been troll-ish.

  349. 349.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    @Kobie:
    Dude (if you are a dude), I was answering YOUR FUCKING QUESTION! You pulled the troll card. I was actually trying to help you out with some friendly advice.

    ETA: I don’t think BoB is an actual troll, because trolling requires a level of mental acuity that BoB clearly doesn’t evince.

    Simma down, na.

  350. 350.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Actually, I didn’t pull the troll card. Lisa did, further up the thread. And yes, I’m a dude.

  351. 351.

    freelancer

    February 21, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    @Kobie:

    concerned Kobie is concerned.

  352. 352.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    @Andy K:

    I would agree.

    However, I have seen a few trolls die the slow, death by a thousand snarks, as well.

    Then they (the commenters) stand over the trolls like Muhammad Ali, just taunting them…

  353. 353.

    Ash

    February 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Brodeur is past him time. And fat, also.

    Has Miller ever played like that for the Sabres? Buffalo pride, man.

  354. 354.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    @Kobie:

    Then you’re trolling* for reactions. That’s the way it seems to me, who doesn’t necessarily disagree with your original comment about curling (but doesn’t agree enough to keep running with it when it obviously pisses people off. I’d have never gone with “asinine”, which was probably got you off on the wrong foot).

    *The usage doesn’t reference mythical, large, green-skinned humanoids that dwell under bridges waiting to snack on goats and hobbits, but a type of fishing practice where one tosses a shiny lure into the water and putts around the lake slowly, waiting to see if something bites. So, really, the verb is “troll”, the noun is “troller”.

  355. 355.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    @Andy K: I’m not “trolling for reactions.” I just don’t take well to being lectured to, and I especially don’t like being referred to as a “dick” and told I am “hated,” especially from what up until now has seemed to be a relatively friendly community, because I think curling sucks and the quadrennial “oooh curling” from people who ordinarily couldn’t care less is irritating.

  356. 356.

    Dismayed Liberal

    February 21, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Brodeur is past him time. And fat, also.

    He’s about as past his prime as the guy with the same name minus the “u”. But unlike that guy, he at least had a prime. If Brodeur starts another game for team Canada ever again, I’ll be pissed. I sure hope Luongo gets the nod from here on out.

  357. 357.

    Joel

    February 21, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    @Nylund: In other words, two nations providing beers of comparable quality, but one sells more variety of beer, cheaper beer, and more easily accessible beer.

  358. 358.

    WaterGirl

    February 21, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Do you have any new photos of Smudge? Is she mad that you were gone again?

  359. 359.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    @Kobie:

    Then quit throwing the same lure into the lake. Just say, “Sorry, I didn’t realize that something like saying something negative about curling (of all things) would cause so much blowback!” Had you done that hours ago, all would be forgiven and forgotten by now.

    Someone on teh intertubes called you a name after you raised their hackles? So fucking what? And what’s going to happen if you don’t get the last word in? Are you going to shoot up a post office tomorrow, or are you just going to have the same conversation around the water cooler with your co-workers?

  360. 360.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    @Andy K: I always have to get the last word in. Call it a personality quirk.

  361. 361.

    Common Sense

    February 21, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    @Northern Sooner:

    Isn’t there a maximum limit for the percentage of alcohol in beer in OK? I’d imagine it’s better pretty much anywhere.

  362. 362.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    @Kobie: As a short, grammatically interesting, ficticional, but still rather wise, green man once said, “That is why you fail.”

  363. 363.

    Jager

    February 21, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    The win makes me very happy…the other thing that made me happy is at my nephew’s wedding reception yesterday, I listened to a 10 year old hockey player in my family (as he pointed out; he plays “up” in age group) in an intense discussion with with another nephew (a young MD) on the merits of various NHL players, Olympic hockey, the play offs and the quality of NCAA Div 1 college hockey…the little dude was better and more knowledgable than all of the guys on ESPN! It was a great day for hockey!!!!

  364. 364.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Go ahead, keep piling on. Jesus Christ — people keep telling me to drop it, but apparently everybody’s gotta get their shots in.

  365. 365.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    @Jager: Every time I hear stories about how our childrens ain’t learning, I hear an anecdote like this. Personally I think we need to give kids more credit for what they do know even if it isn’t evident on the surface.

  366. 366.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    @Andy K: That’s not what happened.

  367. 367.

    WaterGirl

    February 21, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    If my mom were still with us, she would have said she didn’t care who started it, but it needed to stop. Now. My dad would have said “why can’t you kids just get along?” Me? I say let it go. Life’s too short.

  368. 368.

    RareSanity

    February 21, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Well, it was a hockey thread.

    It wouldn’t have been complete without a fight…

  369. 369.

    PaulB

    February 21, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    @Kobie:

    I’m not “trolling for reactions.”

    Yes, you are/were. It was a classic troll, by the original Usenet definition of that term. Deal with it and move on because all you’re doing now is embarrassing yourself.

    You’re in the position of the Black Knight in the Monty Python movie: you’ve just had your ass handed to you, repeatedly, and you’re still loudly proclaiming that you can gnaw on everyone’s kneecaps.

  370. 370.

    amorphous

    February 21, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

    When did this turn into /b/alloon-juice?

  371. 371.

    Phishbulb

    February 21, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Jesus Tap dancing Christ. Dude doesn’t like curling. Who gives a damn? Seriously. You’re bashing a guy… for not liking curling. STFU.

  372. 372.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: The answer is mixed. yes, she’s mad at me being gone again. she is not cooperating for many photos, and I haven’t pressed her for them. She’s like all models – temperamental.

    But I did snap these two: that damned shirt and mad at you. The brush was the attraction, as you could tell.

  373. 373.

    Andy K

    February 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    @You Don’t Say:

    Really? Because I only saw one other mention of curling before Kobie’s first comment (#35), and that was a very quickly passing mention of what was on someone’s personal viewing menu. Then this:

    You know what irritates me? Every four years, people pretend to like the absolutely asinine “sport” of curling. Please.

    (Barely) Shorter Kobie: You’re lying jackasses concerning your appreciation of curling.

    Now maybe Kobie doesn’t live close enough to the Canadian border to know that curling is on the CBC every Saturday afternoon in the winter (at least it was when it was on our cable system), so there must be some following, ya know? But it was sure made obvious to me that there are a few people reading this site who actually do appreciate it by the way they understood Kobie’s comments.

  374. 374.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 21, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    @amorphous:

    When did this turn into /b/alloon-juice?

    This is the cancer that is killing bj.

  375. 375.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    @Andy K: And I expanded on and clarified my comments in later posts. How convenient of you to ignore it.

    Meh, whatever. I’m done. Curling still sucks.

  376. 376.

    Jager

    February 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Yutsano,

    Yes, the little dude gets good grades, too!

  377. 377.

    Yutsano

    February 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    @Jager: BTW I’m not opposed to the young’un being hired as an analyst for ESPN. Lord knows they could use all the help they can get there.

  378. 378.

    You Don't Say

    February 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    @Andy K: Yes, that’s what happened. I only meant that your idea for an apology missed the point. I doubt anyone cares whether Kobie or anyone likes curling. To each his own. The insult was implying anyone who does is just a poseur.

  379. 379.

    Kobie

    February 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    @You Don’t Say: And I clarified exactly what I was talking about. A fact which has been summarily ignored in the interest of piling on and lecturing.

  380. 380.

    canuckistani

    February 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Fuck you, America, you Great Satan, you, and your crappy beer. We’ll see you at the gold medal game.

  381. 381.

    Comrade Kevin

    February 22, 2010 at 12:09 am

    @canuckistani: If you make it there, and no, I’m not saying USA will make it either.

  382. 382.

    Kobie

    February 22, 2010 at 12:10 am

    @Comrade Kevin: We could be looking at Canada-Russia in the quarterfinals. That would be a hell of a matchup, with the loser going home without a medal.

  383. 383.

    RareSanity

    February 22, 2010 at 12:11 am

    @canuckistani:

    If, you get there…

    EDIT: Comrade Kevin beat me to it…

  384. 384.

    RareSanity

    February 22, 2010 at 12:17 am

    @canuckistani:

    Oh, and just to add, about American Beer…

    You obviously have not heard of fine Colt 45, or you wouldn’t be making statements like that…

  385. 385.

    J. Michael Neal

    February 22, 2010 at 12:19 am

    @RedKitten:

    Credit where it’s due—Miller definitely was the hero of this game, especially when you look at the shots on net. His team owes him, big time.

    Just finished watching the game off the DVR, so I finally comment. I have to disagree. Miller was great, but Brian Rafalski had an amazing game. The first goal and the assist on Langenbrunner’s were both great shots. The second goal was an outstanding play to capitalize on Brodeur’s screw up. And, he made a number of good defensive plays, beyond just the ones the MSNBC guys commented on.

    I suspect we’re done with the handwringing that Rafalski is too small.

    Now I have to make sure I don’t see the Finland/Sweden score, particularly since the Finns are my team in international hockey.

  386. 386.

    Mike in NC

    February 22, 2010 at 12:28 am

    In Europe they once had a joke about why most American beer is “like making love in a canoe”: it’s fucking close to water.

  387. 387.

    trollhattan

    February 22, 2010 at 12:36 am

    All Yankee dogs are hereby required to have one of these.

    http://www.arrogantbastard.com/index2.html

    Tunch more or less demands it.

  388. 388.

    J. Michael Neal

    February 22, 2010 at 12:44 am

    @Mike in NC: You’re only the third person to use that joke in this thread.

  389. 389.

    Comrade Kevin

    February 22, 2010 at 12:53 am

    I just happened to see, on the west coast tape delay, these two Russian ice dancers, and it was fucking appalling. All that was missing was a bubbling cauldron with a guy wearing a pith helmet in it.

  390. 390.

    zzyzx

    February 22, 2010 at 1:08 am

    I went and saw curling live today. Then we went to Granville St for a while to see if anything was kicking for the hockey game but it was just folks milling about for the most part.

  391. 391.

    Yutsano

    February 22, 2010 at 1:11 am

    @zzyzx: I really should hate you with the burning intensity of a thousand suns. Instead if you want restaurant recommendations I do have a few suggestions.

  392. 392.

    Chum

    February 22, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Then we went to Granville St for a while to see if anything was kicking for the hockey game but it was just folks milling about for the most part

    It’s pretty subdued on Robson St tonight compared to what it would have been had Luongo been in the fucking net.
    Brodeur has lost twice now- I don’t consider winning a shootout winning the game.

  393. 393.

    N. Ron Bubba

    February 22, 2010 at 2:00 am

    We just want to have a beer that we can have a beer with.

  394. 394.

    Kobie

    February 22, 2010 at 3:10 am

    @J. Michael Neal: Rafalski was NAILS tonight. He’s a very underrated player.

  395. 395.

    Kobie

    February 22, 2010 at 3:12 am

    @Chum: No offense to my brethren from Canuckistan, but Brodeur has looked like absolute shit.

  396. 396.

    Yutsano

    February 22, 2010 at 3:17 am

    I think the final conclusion to be struck is it was a good day to have the surname Miller.

  397. 397.

    Kobie

    February 22, 2010 at 3:39 am

    @Yutsano: Bode and Ryan did well. Dennis is still a turncoat right-wing hack.

  398. 398.

    matt

    February 22, 2010 at 3:42 am

    @Nylund:
    And then the worst part in Montreal is how they keep bragging about how great the wine selection is. Someone I met said they disassociated from a friend because he, from Vancouver, complained that you couldn’t get any good Australian wine here. I kept quiet thereafter.

  399. 399.

    canuckistani

    February 22, 2010 at 7:25 am

    @Kobie: Word. 20 years playing for New Jersey has poisoned Brodeur’s sense of national identity.

  400. 400.

    zzyzx

    February 22, 2010 at 7:27 am

    @Chum: I’m back home now, but thanks. The advantage of living in Seattle for these games is that the Olympics is a road trip, usually for the day, not a commitment. Border crossings have been trivial too…

  401. 401.

    Svensker

    February 22, 2010 at 8:12 am

    @canuckistani:

    Word. 20 years playing for New Jersey has poisoned Brodeur’s sense of national identity.

    Not to be dumb or anything, but can someone please explain to me how this hockey is an Olympic sport? Aren’t they all professional players? (I remember the same thing with basketball Olympics.) What am I missing?

  402. 402.

    Dismayed Liberal

    February 22, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Not to be dumb or anything, but can someone please explain to me how this hockey is an Olympic sport? Aren’t they all professional players? (I remember the same thing with basketball Olympics.) What am I missing?

    You’re missing that many sports have professionals competing in the Olympics. The favourite for the men’s moguls event is a multi-millionaire, Sean (sp?) White is a multi-millionaire, tennis pros like Federer et al play in the summer Olympics and are mega-millionaires from playing their sports. Even the Canadian curling team makes hundreds of thousands a year playing in cashspiels. The IOC doesn’t even pretend that the Olympcis are about amateur sport any more, but simply about putting the world’s best against each other in each discipline. Hockey and basketball are no different.

  403. 403.

    Surly Duff

    February 22, 2010 at 10:08 am

    @Josh Huaco:

    What do we owe the world for Creed? I think we may never repay that debt.

  404. 404.

    Surly Duff

    February 22, 2010 at 10:10 am

    @Josh Huaco:

    at was for Nickelback, Canada.

    If that is the case, what does the U.S. owe the world for Creed? I think we may never repay that debt.

  405. 405.

    CalD

    February 22, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Canadian beer does suck though.

  406. 406.

    TJ

    February 22, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Its Hockey, who gives a puck???

  407. 407.

    Loon juice

    February 22, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Thursday night: American women v. Canadian women for the gold in hockey, I think this game deserves it’s own thread. USA ‘ettes! USA ‘ettes!! USA ‘ettes!!!

    And curling is now cool……..

  408. 408.

    Tomba la Bomba

    February 22, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Hey freelancer-

    post here if you know how to get the Olympics reels and live videos to work(??!!)

    Microsoft Silverlight is a totally wretched POS that is ruining the Olympics for us hosers who can’t cross the border, but still want to watch the live stream ski races snowboarding etc.

    Both NBC and CTV insist on installing this junk to see vids…Tried installing/uninstalling/reinstalling versions 3 and then 4 beta…RESULts? NOthing but Errors-Blackout vid windows etc etc..NO such problems with YouTube, Flash, etc.

    Can’t get Silverlight to work in Chrome, or Firefox, or even IE. what total douche-designed fully dysfunctional POS CRAPware!!

  409. 409.

    Tomba la Bomba

    February 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    BTW drank more than my share of Molson’s Canadian, Moosehead etc. in Van, at Cypress, WHistler etc. The BC microbrews like Black Tusk etc are the equal of anything you can get in the USA; also the good stuff is always on tap in Alpine zones- Apres ski laissez bon temps rouller!

    Canuck brew was a geat bang for the buck back when Clinton was Pres and the USA ran huge budget surpluses and 3-4% unemployment, and exchange rates were $100 US = $162 Canadian. Even hitchhiking groms could afford the pricier microbrews back then (and they didn’t need a goddamn Terrorist Tracker-tm RFID passport to cross the border neither).

    So to Real Man of Genius GW Bush, for wrecking the economy and shredding the Constitution, while making the former land of the Free a high-tech universal surveillance Police State…

    This Big FU is for You, Bud!

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