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Another Open Thread

by John Cole|  March 2, 20108:08 pm| 119 Comments

This post is in: Food, Open Threads, Television

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New Southland tonight on TNT, for those of you who are interested (10 pm EST).

Also, I saw this smoothie on Good Eats last night, made one today, and it was delicious. Anyone have an estimate of how many calories are in it? Trying to regain my girlish figure (or at least acquire one that looks less like Rosie O’Donnell) after sitting on my ass for six weeks.

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  1. 1.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 2, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    May I recommend a prostate infection? I lost 15 lbs in a little over a week.

  2. 2.

    jacy

    March 2, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I’ll see your prostate infection and raise you a pneumonia — lost 23 pounds in a little over two weeks. Of course the nearly dying part is a bit of a drawback.

    John, you can make a nice frozen yogurt snack by taking a large carton of plain yogurt and putting it in food processer with a bag of your choice of frozen fruit, then blending until it’s as chunky as you like it. Add honey to taste. Viola, instant frozen yogurt with no added sugar. Easy and very healthy. Lasts at least a week in the freezer, we’ve never made it farther than that before the kids finished it off. We’ve done mixed berries, strawberries, and peaches.

    Of if you don’t care so much about the sugars, you can use vanilla yogurt and forget about the honey.

  3. 3.

    Bob K

    March 2, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Senator Bunny is holding his breath till he turns blue over this 10 billion dollar bill to extend unemployment because how will we pay for it? (clutches pearls) think of the children. So I’m reading and this trojan horse contains ONE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT billion in tax breaks for the unfortunate rich who are subject the inheritance tax. You know – I really hated the French revolution – but I’d really like to start knitting like Madame Defarge and maybe Madame Guillotine had a point. F..CK the rich.

  4. 4.

    beltane

    March 2, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I miss the Olympics; at least there was always something on. It must be ADD or something, but I’ve always had a hard time watching TV.

  5. 5.

    mr. whipple

    March 2, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    I’m watching the Who on Palladia. Maximum R&B.

  6. 6.

    Mark S.

    March 2, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    I like the new proposed sudden death rules (which they would only use in the playoffs).

    The change would be subtle and wouldn’t necessarily require that both teams get possession. Any touchdown would still result in a sudden-death result. However, if the team that got the first possession of overtime scored only a field goal, the other team would get a possession. If the second team scored a touchdown, it would win. If it scored a field goal, the game would continue, whereupon it would revert to simple sudden death. Also, if the first team to get the ball didn’t score but the second team did, the game would be over immediately.

    I like it better than the current rule, and I’ve never been completely comfortable with the college rules.

  7. 7.

    Keith G

    March 2, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    I hate doing this, but I posted the below bleg on the previous post just before John opened this one. Help is needed.

    I have a request.

    I would like to be pointed to a site or a blog that does a thorough, critical analysis of the climate change debates and related sideshows.

    I would love it if such a site(s) was not grinding a particular axe, just following the science.

    I am getting ready to ride into combat and I need to sharpen my sword and know that it can hold up.

  8. 8.

    Zuzu's Petals

    March 2, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    If you really want to feel great, try green smoothies. Easy way to get your veggies, and actually great tasting.

    Pretty simple: 1/2 green leafy veggie, 1/2 fruit. Maybe a little water or coconut juice to thin it. The fruit makes it sweet and not too chloroform-y.

    My sister swears by her kale and pineapple combo.
    Other recipes here.

  9. 9.

    jeffreyw

    March 2, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    This is slimming. Look but don’t eat. LOL

  10. 10.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    March 2, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    You’re probably looking at 150 calories per 8 oz in that smoothie. Here’s another one to try that’s pretty easy on calories (again about 150 per 8 oz):

    Mixed Berry Smoothie

    I take one to work with my every day. Stops the afternoon crash.

  11. 11.

    Mark S.

    March 2, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    @Keith G:

    Real Climate is one.

  12. 12.

    Mike Kay

    March 2, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I blame Obama!

  13. 13.

    Mike Kay

    March 2, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    @Bad Horse’s Filly:

    I usually fight the afternoon crash with amphetamines.

  14. 14.

    wenchacha

    March 2, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Back of the envelope calculations: about 287 calories. You don’t have to drink all 24 oz. at once. How is it if you walk? Do you jar the shoulder too much? If you walk in a pool, you burn more calories. Give yourself time!

  15. 15.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    March 2, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    @Keith G: I’ll follow Keith there if someone has a site. I’m getting ready to give my spring talks on resource efficiency and wouldn’t mind having some resources beyond what I already have.

  16. 16.

    mr. whipple

    March 2, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    @Mike Kay: Couple thick lines of crank will do it.

  17. 17.

    mai naem

    March 2, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    @Mark S.: I would kind of like the sudden death rule for the senate. Something like every time one party wins a vote, the losing party has to kill off a senator thus causing sudden death of a senator. This would have the consequence of pushing the majority’s policy goals along so that the public could see the results of these policies and also have the side benefit of killing a lot of old rich lawyers.

  18. 18.

    Mike Kay

    March 2, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    @mr. whipple:

    I always use pharmaceuticals. I don’t trust stuff from the street, simply because you have no idea what’s in it. Plus, it’s pretty easy to get prescriptions.

  19. 19.

    JenJen

    March 2, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    @beltane:

    I miss the Olympics; at least there was always something on.

    Is that why my teevee viewing seems so empty the last two days? I feel like I’m crashing hard off the Olympics. I watched more of that than most would consider reasonable.

    That “Buff Smoothie” looks awfully caloric to me, which is too bad, because it also looks rather delicious. I just can’t win today.

  20. 20.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 2, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    I made frozen yogurt with mango yesterday, with non-fat yogurt, 1/4 cup heavy cream, 1/8 cup sugar and a pound of mangoes, nootrishus and delishus!

  21. 21.

    mr. whipple

    March 2, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    @Mike Kay:

    “I don’t trust stuff from the street, simply because you have no idea what’s in it.”

    You have lost your sense of wild adventure.

  22. 22.

    Joel

    March 2, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    @Zuzu’s Petals: You’ve eaten chloroform?

    I’m assuming you mean clorophyll?

  23. 23.

    demkat620

    March 2, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Well the flu kicked 6 lbs off me. I’ve been just completely turned off by food the last three days. Including the first day where it was like the Excorcist here.

    Damn kids. First my daughter had it, then my son and then me.

    Always bringing home some kind of bug.

  24. 24.

    Tax Analyst

    March 2, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    @Mark S.:

    Re: NFL overtime rules for play-offs

    The change would be subtle and wouldn’t necessarily require that both teams get possession. Any touchdown would still result in a sudden-death result. However, if the team that got the first possession of overtime scored only a field goal, the other team would get a possession. If the second team scored a touchdown, it would win. If it scored a field goal, the game would continue, whereupon it would revert to simple sudden death. Also, if the first team to get the ball didn’t score but the second team did, the game would be over immediately.

    Yes, this is much better than the current rules, except I wouldn’t let the game end on a field goal. I’d go with first touchdown wins but to win with a field goal you’d have to make more points than a TD (3 fg’s).

    So my plan would be:
    (a) game ends on TD
    (b) with a FG game continues, other team wins with TD, except when
    (c) 1st team somehow makes 3 FG’s – Game over.
    (d) If first score is a Safety, Game over.
    (e) Game over if one team has any lead after 15 (or perhaps 12) minutes of play.

    But I don’t think they would ever actually do all this.

    Edit: Oh yeah, college OT rules absolutely, totally and completely suck. They might as well just use Soccer Penalty kicks.

  25. 25.

    South of I-10

    March 2, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    @Mike Kay: That will keep the weight off!

  26. 26.

    Tax Analyst

    March 2, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    @mr. whipple:

    “I don’t trust stuff from the street, simply because you have no idea what’s in it.”

    You have lost your sense of wild adventure.

    {Chortle}

  27. 27.

    AhabTRuler

    March 2, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    @mr. whipple:

    You have lost your sense of wild adventure.

    Yeah, but I still drink booze straight from the Prestone jug.

  28. 28.

    Comrade Mary

    March 2, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Roger Ebert gets his voice back. More.

    Also: Ebert handles betrayal like a fucking grownup. The comments include the first tweet anywhere that has ever made me cry.

  29. 29.

    Ash Can

    March 2, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    @demkat620: Germs are the one thing that little kids share with ease. I’ve had more damned colds, bugs, flus, shit, crud, you-name-it over the years since Bottle Rocket started school. Kids are biohazards.

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 2, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    @Zuzu’s Petals:

    The fruit makes it sweet and not too chloroform-y.

    Okay, Z’s Ps, this made me laugh for two reasons:

    (1) It reminded me of my favourite Really Bad Infomercial, for The Magic Bullet (“Yuck. I *hate* broccoli.” “You get all that vegetable goodness with none of that yucky vegetable taste.”) and (2) I’m pretty sure you meant *chlorophyll-y* not *chloroform-y* but I could be wrong about that.

    + 2 of a nice Petite Sirah

  31. 31.

    Something Fabulous

    March 2, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Ooooh, Alton inviting me to achieve a vortex. Tingle.

  32. 32.

    BombIranForChrist

    March 2, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Be careful with those high sugar smoothies, my man. They may be lowish in calories, but you will burn through them quickly and start looking for something else to eat really soon. Bananas are especially high in da sugar.

    Personally, I would try smoothies that have a little more protein and / or fat so that you will feel satisfied for longer. I usually do something like: blueberries, soy milk, peanut butter. The calories will be slightly higher, but the fat and protein in peanut butter will help sustain your energy level.

  33. 33.

    martha

    March 2, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Oh Mary, you’re right. A first for me too. I finally read the Esquire story today and now this.

  34. 34.

    mr. whipple

    March 2, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    @AhabTRuler:

    Yeah, but I still drink booze straight from the Prestone jug.

    Most excellent. Don’t overlook the Sterno, tho. The gel can be quite filling, and double as a meal.

  35. 35.

    Ailuridae

    March 2, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    John the entire reciple breaks out this way

    Soy Milk 70 KCal
    Frozen banana 100 KCal
    Frozen Strawberries, peaches and Blueberries 40- 50 KCal each
    Grape Juice 80KCal

    Its ~400 KCals for the whole thing.

    I understand Alton Brown’s motivation but if you are going to make your own liquid meal replacements its probably a lot smarter to mess around less with what he is suggesting and do something more along the following as the extra protein will do a ton to fill you up. Also the calories in the grape juice and banana probably aren’t doing a whole lot to help you nutritionally

    12 oz skim milk (120 KCal)
    1 scoop chocolate protein powder (120KCal)
    8 oz of frozen fruit preferably berries (strawberries are great and usually cheapest but i prefer blueberries)
    1 TBS ground flaxseed (varies between 40 and 70 KCal)

    Thats the same calories with less dead nutrition yes stuff just fucking with your glycemic response and slowing weight loss. Its probably a little cheaper too and its ration of protein:carbohydrates:fat calories is going to leave you fuller (and I would be astonished if it didn’t taste better)

  36. 36.

    Jason Bylinowski

    March 2, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: @jacy:

    Gastroenteritis is really great too, minus the rampant diarrhea and occasional fainting spells. I got that last month, thought it was a simple stomach flu, and a week later was very glad that we are now on decent health insurance.

  37. 37.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 2, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    @Mike Kay: Funny, I blamed you new Obot trolls.

  38. 38.

    Deschanel

    March 2, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    One of Andrew Sullivan’s beagle-sitters at his site, a prissy governess named Alex Massie, is dreadfully miffed at our Secretary of State. In a sort of quaintly horrid monocle-dropping way.

    “Justin Keating thinks I’m probably reading too much into Hillary’s remarks about the Falkland Islands today. A good number of readers think so too. And it’s true that this is an issue that’s guaranteed to annoy Britons. Perhaps we are, as one reader put it, “hypersensitive”.

    But the point is this: whether Hillary Clinton thought she was humoring her Argentine hosts or simply being polite, she actually ended up doing rather more than that. A reminder of what she said:

    “[W]e want very much to encourage both countries to sit down. Now, we cannot make either one do so, but we think it is the right way to proceed. So we will be saying this publicly, as I have been, and we will continue to encourage exactly the kind of discussion across the table that needs to take place.”

    What perfidy! How dare That Woman say such terrible things!

    Is the British public mildly irrational about the Falklands? Perhaps. But the war wasn’t that long ago and helps explain why Britain doesn’t consider there to even be an issue over the islands’ status. If the Islanders wanted to be Argentinian then things would be different. But they don’t so they aren’t.

    No Massie, that “war” was indeed long ago- Boy George was a sensation!-, and I just wonder to myself why the cult of bloody Maggie Thatcher is still being taken seriously in 2010. Even Andrew is more subtle in his wanking about that warlike crone. Massie’s harrumphing about how Brits feel about Hillary’s being civil over the issue, instead of buying into the strange idea that the British should have a half a fuck of a say what goes on on islands half a world away. of course, Massie speaks for all Britons.

    Confesh: I am not terribly up to date on what inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are thinking and feeling right now. How their love lives are. And I honestly can’t think of anything I could give less of a fuck about.

    No, what burns my ass is having to listen to one of Andrew’s placeholders get all critical and twitchy as he declares the Falklands part of the Empi-ah! that valiant Baroness Thatcher saved in a war moment like the storming of the beaches at Normandy. And how dare the US SoS not humor such fanciful notions as the idea the Falklands War was not a victory for democracy in the name of the Crown and Her Majesty? What could be more democratic than that??

    Just polled 900 Britons online (all drunk alas). 80 percent say they didn’t give a toss, 3 percent said they didn’t know what I was on about, and 17 percent thought Thatcher played the stern headmistress in some 1970’s comedy series on telly.

    But on Andrew Sullivan’s web-log (did you know he invented it?) it’s still 1981 when it comes to that horrible woman.

  39. 39.

    Spork

    March 2, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Just testing, if this ends up in spam filter, just delete please.

  40. 40.

    Ash Can

    March 2, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski: I always thought gastroenteritis and stomach flu were the same thing.

    Speaking of gastrointestinal distress, via the GOS, Mitch McConnell gives the Dems fair warning:

    The Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, warned Democrats on Tuesday that Republicans will use the issue of health care to bludgeon them in the November mid-term elections if Democrats succeed in passing a comprehensive overhaul.

    Comedy.

  41. 41.

    demkat620

    March 2, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    @Ash Can: Oh yeah. I was actually quite a healthy adult until i had kids. And now, not so much.

  42. 42.

    demkat620

    March 2, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    @Ash Can: He is a funny guy that Mitch. Pass. The. Damn. Bill.

    You’ll be fine if you do.

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 2, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    @Comrade Mary #28:

    That was a powerful piece. The word mensch was invented for people like Roger Ebert. Between the Esquire profile and this article (not to mention Ebert’s own writings over the years) I am more than ever convinced that he is a national treasure. (Slightly O/T query: Has he ever received a Kennedy Center Honor? If not, I hope the people who make those awards will remedy the omission THIS YEAR. In fact, I’ll look it up and start a letter-writing canmpaign.)

    I work so almost never see Oprah (not that I probably would even if I were home in the afternoon) but I hope very much that tomorrow’s show with RE ends up on YouTube so I can watch it. Thanks for the links.

  44. 44.

    Max

    March 2, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I record Oprah every day and spend Saturday watching those epi’s I am interested in.

    She really does have some interesting stuff on there, you just have to fast forward thru the fluff.

    I’ll definitely watch the Ebert episode. He’s the bees knees.

  45. 45.

    Jenn

    March 2, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    @Keith G:

    try realclimate.org

  46. 46.

    Zuzu's Petals

    March 2, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    @Joel:

    Uh, yeah, one of those chloro-words. Duh, thanks.

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 2, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    @Max #43:

    Yes he is. Also the cat’s pajamas.

    /23 skidoo/

  48. 48.

    Zuzu's Petals

    March 2, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I guess I can’t pretend I meant it’s a real knock-out drink.

  49. 49.

    Kennedy

    March 2, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Everyone tune in to Southland to show NBC what utter failures they continue to be imo

  50. 50.

    AhabTRuler

    March 2, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @Deschanel: The Falkland Islanders would rather eat the Union Jack whole after it had been used for sheep-sheering than entertain talks with the Argentines. Further, Britain’s position is this: Argentina shall not have by negotiation what they tried to take by force.

  51. 51.

    planetjanet

    March 2, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    I put the ingredients in the recipe builder at Weight Watchers. It calculated 7 points, which is about 350 calories for a single serving. So, I would call that more than a light snack. It is closer to a meal than a snack.

  52. 52.

    demkat620

    March 2, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Oh man, why is Erick son of Erick on my tv?

  53. 53.

    MTiffany

    March 2, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    That smoothie recipe is packed with vitamins and minerals, so screw the calorie count.

  54. 54.

    demimondian

    March 2, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @Ash Can: I was enjoying the concern trollery. I want to know which of you Tunch-worshipping hippies joined McConnell’s speech-writing team.

  55. 55.

    demkat620

    March 2, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Oh wow Roland Martin just called Erick’s snappy remark “trifling”.

    Very nice Roland but you are talking to a wall.

    And Now Erick rolls out the Golf Course owner anecdote. Game ender Roland. Who doesn’t know and sympathize with a golf course owner?

  56. 56.

    Deschanel

    March 2, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    @AhabTRuler: Right. And we should give a damn because? It’s nice that the occupants of the Malvinas prefer a fancy Queen in Europe to be their leader, but in the 21st century the idea that most Britons really give a damn anymore is highly questionable. And I don’t see anything wrong with what the SoS said in any case.

    The British Empire is dead, and tens of millions of us spit on its grave.
    Good riddance.

  57. 57.

    demimondian

    March 2, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    @Deschanel: Well, the question of self-determination for all peoples seems to apply here — the Falklanders want to remain a part of Britain. Their opinions do count, you know.

  58. 58.

    Comrade Kevin

    March 2, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    @Deschanel: Up for a bit of “ethnic cleansing”, eh?

  59. 59.

    Platonicspoof

    March 2, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Anyone have an estimate of how many calories are in it?

    Can’t speak to smoothies (especially since they sound like something easily customized), but for calculating insulin for carbs for foods without labeling, http://www.Calorieking.com has been quite accurate for me, so I assume the calorie numbers are also dependable.

    The booklet I use is titled The Doctor’s Pocket Calorie, Fat and Carb Counter.

    The website also has downloads.

  60. 60.

    Deschanel

    March 2, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    @Comrade Kevin:

    @Deschanel: Up for a bit of “ethnic cleansing”, eh?

    What a fucking horrid thing to say. And ascribe to me, bizarrely. If you were trying to be comic there, do stop trying, you’re not funny.

    @demimondain: Yes, but modern Britain doesn’t give a damn. It’s very nice and romantic for a bunch of islands near Antarctica to declare their allegiance to a fairy queen across the seas, but it’s hardly realpolitik in the 21st century, is it. Refusing to deal with Argentina- which is apparently some sort of Pol Pot genocidal nation out to destroy them from what I read – it’s like a teenager saying they don’t need to deal with school or reality, they’re going to be a rock star. They’re going with the fancy glamour!

    Perhaps Britain will see fit to unleash their knights and flying horses again on their behalf. Too bad modern Britain is too gorged on booze, numbing reality tv, and knife-crimes to care about the Falklands. Maybe all this fanciful allegiance to the Crown stuff is actually meaningless in the actual real world of today, and negotiating with Argentina is in their best interests. But then, who the hell cares.

  61. 61.

    demimondian

    March 2, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    @Deschanel: Nevertheless, what you’re demanding will entail ethnic cleansing, and remains contrary to international law. Nobody disputes the right of residence of the Falklanders, and, therefore, their right to express a preference.

    I’d be more sympathetic to the Argentine “claim”, such as it is, if it weren’t that it was suddenly yanked from mothballs when BP started sinking oil wells off the Falklands. That means that they’re not just a bunch of penguin-infested, half-sterile rocks in the middle of the Atlantic, they’re actually worth money! And that’s when Argentina says “Oh, no, but they’re ours!”

    Yeah…no.

  62. 62.

    Yutsano

    March 2, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    New Southland tonight on TNT,

    Bleah. Gonna have to Hulu it. Also might get in some hot water at work for what’s going to happen tomorrow. They’re basically tripling my responsibilities without any rise in compensation. I might end up raising an unholy stink here.

  63. 63.

    elisathon

    March 2, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Here are some approximations, from a nutritional values database for diabetics.

    4 oz. plain, low-fat soy milk – soy milks vary a great deal by brand, check the package for accurate calorie info. The FDA database lists Silk brand varieties for comparison, Silk brand unsweetened should be about 45 cal for 4 oz.

    4 oz. grape juice – unsweetened, 130 cal; 4 oz. pomegranate juice – unsweetened 120 calories; 4 oz acai juice – not listed
    4 oz. frozen banana – approx. 95 calories
    4 oz. frozen strawberries – unsweetened, approx. 40 calories
    4 oz. frozen blueberries -unsweetened, approx. 65 calories
    4 oz. frozen peaches – unsweetened, 50 calories

    These are only the caloric values, keeping an eye on the balance of carbs/sugars/fats-good fats& bad fats/protein/fiber is at least as, if not more important than just the calories. I’m sure the smoothy is tasty but it’s pretty high in sugars & low in complex carbs & fiber, and you could stand to add some good fats like flax seed oil.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    March 2, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Good luck tomorrow! My thoughts will be with you, hoping that you stick it to the Man.

  65. 65.

    Sentient Puddle

    March 2, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    The bad news: It looks like Perry is squeaking by with just a little over 50% in the primary. No runoff. Bah.

    The good news: It also looks like Don McLeroy is about to lose his primary. It’s 51-49 at the moment and not final, but if it holds, it would be teh awesome.

  66. 66.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2010 at 12:02 am

    @Tax Analyst:

    No, no, no, no. Really simple: both teams get at least one possession in overtime.

    If the first team scores (any kind), they kick off and the other team gets a shot.

    If the first team doesn’t score, the ball turns over and then it’s over on the next score by anyone.

    Right now too much depends on winning the coin toss. It’s not a huge advantage, but it’s an advantage. Not appropriate to settle a tie game.

  67. 67.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 3, 2010 at 12:32 am

    @Yutsano: Good luck, hon. Do not back down.

    @Comrade Mary: Damn you. Now I’m sniffling again. What a graceful handling of a horrid situation. And, yes, the tweet was utter class.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 12:33 am

    @Steeplejack: If they’re hauling my ass in at 7 am expecting me to learn something to fill up “dead space” just to make me a more productive drone without offering me something back, they’re gonna have a rather unpleasant surprise on their hands. I could take it out of their skins in a shit ton of overtime and they’d be forced into paying it out. I might just end up going that route until hey figure out just bumping up my wage is cheaper.

  69. 69.

    Stooleo

    March 3, 2010 at 12:38 am

    For the dog lovers out there, Pedigree commercial using a 1000 frame per second camera of doggies catching treats.

  70. 70.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 12:47 am

    I just saw David Brooks on Colbert and think calling Ross Douthat “Chunky David Brooks” might be totally unfair even if the genesis of the nickname has nothing to do with either person’s weight. Just sayin’

    Also when you are a seven figure earner as a columnist and paid contributor (and I think its safe to say Brooks is) is it really all that burdensome to get a new suit when you put on 30 or 40 pounds?

  71. 71.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Man oh man oh man Southland is full of amazing little touches that give it an amazing feel to it. NBC didn’t fucking deserve this show.

    @asiangrrlMN: I’m in the fortunate position that even if I lose my job I’ll be okay for awhile. I’m at the point where I’m willing to chance that, too much jerking around going on for my taste.

  72. 72.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 1:04 am

    @Yutsano:

    I agree. I’m really worried about this season being as good as season one given some of the decisions they’ve made but even if its only 85 or 90% of the show it was last season it’ll still be great.

  73. 73.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 1:06 am

    @Ailuridae: Granted it’s only five minutes into the TNT originals but so far I’m not disappointed. With any luck the quality keeps up.

  74. 74.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Can somebody explain the appeal of shows like Southland?

    Yet another TV show about thuggish brutal undereducated muggers with badges running amok in a part of the United States that has completely collapsed and is now circling the bowl, with the suction drawing it down.

    Why would anyone want to watch a TV show about that? I’ve never seen it, but you know, it’s pretty easy to figure out what the episodes are like…some gangbanger in East L.A. shoots somebody and an LAPD goon and his partner bitch about how tough life is while they pull down $70,000 a year for eating donuts in their batmobile.

    In another episode, the LAPD goon and his partner respond to a domestic dispute and they bitch about how hard it is to have guaranteed health care and a job where an uneducated high school graduate makes more than 85% of the population while enjoying completely immunity from ever getting fired no matter how badly he screws up.

    Doesn’t anyone else get sick of that crap? Cops aren’t heroic defenders of the public, cops are the guys in high school who set cats on fire and held freshmen’s heads down in the toilet while they flushed it. Cops are the guys in high school who used to walk by and spit in peoples’ sandwiches at lunch, and then grab a cheerleader and force her to kiss him and when she squealed, they’d laugh and push her away so hard she falls over into her tray of food on the floor. Those are the guys who became cops.

    This glorification of the military and the police is sick. It’s pathological. These people are muggers with badges. Instead of glorifying them and making elaborate million-dollar-per-episode TV shows about these thugs, we should be making TV shows about scientists and engineers — people who actually produce something in our society, people who are worth something, people who add to the substance of America rather than degrading it and debasing it by beating suspects who have had their hands cuffed behind their backs.

  75. 75.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 1:17 am

    @mclaren: I sincerely hope you’re just trying to be provocative here, because if this is honestly how you feel I hope you never need a cop in your life and if you do I hope you have the courage of your convictions to not lower yourself into calling one.

  76. 76.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 1:28 am

    @mclaren:

    I’ve never seen it, but you know…

    I didn’t read the rest of your post after this point, because, you know, I knew it was going to be shit.

  77. 77.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 1:28 am

    @mclaren:

    The appeal of these shows is that they don’t revel in the “cops as heroes” aspect of typical cop shows. Southland, and to a far greater extent for a show like The Wire, attempt to show real but very flawed people doing a difficult job.

    Also your notion of the educational profile of most cops in major cities is woefully misinformed. And you left out “jack-booted thugs” from your rant. Its nice to know you are comparably ignorant about law enforcement as you are about, say, health care reform where your comments are comparably juvenile and misinformed.

  78. 78.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 1:35 am

    @Tattoosydney: I did read the whole thing (you didn’t miss much but as far as incoherent rants go it’s quite amazing) and I’m not a cop but I’ve been involved in the military all my life (behave you! :), such attitudes never cease to stun me. Plus Southland shows not only the guts but the boring parts of police work: the waiting, the small downtime moments when all you have is your partner and your thoughts. The writing and production are fucking astounding.

    Comment ça va me ami?

  79. 79.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 1:40 am

    @Yutsano:

    I actually did read it, but wanted to make a point about the sheer fuckedupedness of making any kind of comment on what a television show is like without having fucking seen one episode. What a wanker.

    Muito bem, obrigado, e tu? I must dash soon, I am off for my volunteer shift at the community legal centre. I hope you manage to sort out work issues. It doesn’t sound like much fun atm.

  80. 80.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 1:43 am

    @Tattoosydney: It may be a situation where it all sorts itself out as it should. At this point I’m choosing to not worry about it and just take advantage of being able to cook dinner for four nights in a row this week for the first time in a long ass time. Odds are I most likely won’t, but at least I could if I wanted. Maybe I should think about becoming a morning shift person again.

  81. 81.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 1:59 am

    @Yutsano: You’re an ignorant kook. Anyone who has ever had anything to do with cops knows that calling a cop is the worst mistake any law-abiding citizen can ever make.

    Call a cop, and chances are pretty good you’ll get beaten or shot or tased to death — and that’s if you’re a law-abiding peaceful citizen who’s never been arrested.

    Good luck relying on those overpaid undereducated muggers with badges. You’re in for an education the next time you’re stupid enough to call one and they beat you and tase you and break your arms and break your back and then mace you while you scream like an animal.

    As for Ailuridae, you can’t cite a single factual error in anything I’ve said about health care so you content yourself with the usual teabagger tactic of hurling sh*t at other people in the frantically desperate hope that some of it sticks. Go back to stealing food from the supermarket, you’re no good as the debating thing.

    Hey there, tattoosydney, you’ve got a mind like a steel trap — always either empty or closed. Evidently you haven’t seen a cop show before. They’re all the same. Always glorifying the thugs in blue, always portraying the pols in power as wise and sympathetic…you’ll never see any real policing on a TV show, never see the goons lying in an affidavit and planting evidence, you’ll never see a prosecutor on TV pushing a groundless case and burying evidence to get a conviction… What a pathetic jerkoff you are. Go back to kindergarten, the adults have serious issues to discuss.

  82. 82.

    burnspbesq

    March 3, 2010 at 2:00 am

    @Ash Can:

    OK, McConnell, you want to duke it out over health care this fall, get the fuck out of the way and let it pass. We’ll be happy to duke it out over health care in the fall.

    Fucking hypocrite. Bludgeon this.

  83. 83.

    burnspbesq

    March 3, 2010 at 2:03 am

    @Deschanel:

    Refusing to deal with Argentina- which is apparently some sort of Pol Pot genocidal nation out to destroy them from what I read

    You’re joking, right? Diego Simeone is much more evil than Pol Pot in the eyes of the average Englishman.

  84. 84.

    burnspbesq

    March 3, 2010 at 2:07 am

    @Tattoosydney:

    Hey – were you one of the 6,200 naked people on the steps of the Opera House?

  85. 85.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 2:08 am

    You’re an ignorant kook.

    Yeah. That’s a compelling argument right there.

    Anyone who has ever had anything to do with cops knows that calling a cop is the worst mistake any law-abiding citizen can ever make.

    I’ll tell my father that next time my crazy uncle violates his restraining order against my mother and grandfather and chases them down with a gun again. Whatever you do don’t call the guys whose salaries you pay with your taxes to save your skins! You’re either talking out of your ass or have been in and out of the pokey so many times your perception is beyond jaded.

    Call a cop, and chances are pretty good you’ll get beaten or shot or tased to death—and that’s if you’re a law-abiding peaceful citizen who’s never been arrested.

    See comment above, coupled with I’ve had many interactions with police and none have ever been violent.

    Good luck relying on those overpaid undereducated muggers with badges. You’re in for an education the next time you’re stupid enough to call one and they beat you and tase you and break your arms and break your back and then mace you while you scream like an animal.

    Show me on the doll where the big bad policeman touched you. Seriously, if you’re not speaking from direct experience here, then you’re displaying a major amount of ignorance of what true policework is. Odds are both can be true as they are not mutually exclusive.

    Hey there, tattoosydney, you’ve got a mind like a steel trap—always either empty or closed.

    Apparently compelling arguments aren’t your forté. Now grow the fuck up and get out of your stereotypical cop world for a moment. Or just lay there when you get mugged in the streets with no chance of catching the perpetrators.

    @Yutsano: HA! Knowing FH # 1 he’s probably wild enough to do it! Hell that could even be where he met his hubby!

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 2:14 am

    @burnspbesq:

    HA! Knowing FH # 1 he’s probably wild enough to do it! Hell that could even be where he met his hubby!

    I haz attribution fail there. Sowwy.

  87. 87.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:23 am

    Thanks for telling those ignorant lies, Yutsano.

    You’re a bunch of cowards and quislings, classic gutless bully-worshipping punks every one of you.

    Arkansas Cop Tasers 10-year-old Girl

    Keep defending those muggers with badges — your credibility is going downhill so fast, you can hear a sonic boom.

  88. 88.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Let’s take a look at how cops really do their policing in the Southland:

    LAPD Rampart division scandal timeline.

    What a bunch of cowardly toadies you are. You people make me sick. Fortunately, with your foolishly misplaced trust of the police, you’ll call those muggers with badges the next time you get mugged, and the sadistic thuggish cops will beat and tase you to death and then plant a drop piece on your sorry ass and that’ll be the end of you. Good riddance. You’re a waste of skin.

  89. 89.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 2:27 am

    @mclaren:

    Really, you stupid fucking idiot? About six weeks ago you posted that the Senate bill didn’t provide protection against recission and when myself and another poster (J Michael Neal I suspect) informed you that was impossible as the only pre-existing conditions in the Senate bill were age, smoking and family size cited the text of the fucking bill you started arguing that it would be dependent on state insurance commissioners to enforce the statute. You’re a lying fucking weasel.

  90. 90.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 2:27 am

    @mclaren: Sigh. Once again careless linking undermines your case. An investigation has been started plus the child wasn’t hurt. If you’re trying to prove that’s standard operating procedure for all law enforcement officers, you haz massive fail. One incident does not prove your case, not even close.

  91. 91.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:28 am

    What a bunch of pathetic lickspittles you people are. You deserve to have your civil rights stripped away, since you worship the goons who brutalize you.

    Police taser great-grandmother for refusing to sign a traffic ticket

    You people are such infantile cowards, you make the Nuremberg defendants look noble by comparison. I wouldn’t piss on you if your hearts were on fire.

  92. 92.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 3, 2010 at 2:28 am

    @Tattoosydney: @Yutsano: Hi, FHs! Good to read both of you at the same time. What the world needs now, is love, sweet love.

    As for the cop debate, every time I’ve been pulled over for speeding, the cops have been polite and utterly civil (and, I deserved every ticket). However, any time I’ve been approached by a cop for something I did not do, the interaction has not gone well at all. Mucho racist overtones. However, it has never gotten violent. So, I would say that the majority of cops are decent, hardworking people who are trying to do a shitty job. However, there is a sizable minority that are attracted to the job for all the wrong reasons. They are the ones I fear.

    Oh good god. Someone needs his/her (I think it’s his) meds.

  93. 93.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:29 am

    So this is what America has come down to — a bunch of groveling crawling servile sycophants who kiss the asses of the goons who beat and tase you and your mothers and your fathers and your children without cause.

    Man tased for getting out license and insurance too slowly.

    C’mon, punks, step right up and defend this kind of indefensible brutality. I’m waiting — tick, tick, tick…

  94. 94.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:31 am

    You craven crawling toadies have the gall to try to sell the baldfaced lie that police have “high educational standards”? Get a clue, clowns:

    Police reject candidate for being too intelligent

    Typical. Absolutely typical.

    C’mon, tell some more lies to defend the indefensible no-neck low-IQ thugs with badges who tase kids with broken backs for kicks, you gutless cowardly bully-worshipers.

  95. 95.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:34 am

    Keep on screaming those lies, punks. Riiiiight, I’m just ranting and raving — my statements of documented fact about the evidence of a massive epidemic of police brutality sweeping America doesn’t have any connection with reality, right?

    What a bunch of ignorant pathetic cowards and liars you are. Enjoy defending this indefensible thuggery, your deserve your serfdom.

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2010 at 2:34 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Pretty sure mclaren is a male, and yeah the pit bull has his bone and is gnawing away. I’m sorry your experiences didn’t go that well (if I didn’t mention it before the Dawg was a state trooper in his previous life) but at least they were just dicks. I wonder when mclaren will figure out he’s not even close to proving his case.

  97. 97.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 3, 2010 at 2:37 am

    @Yutsano: Like I said, when I deserved it (the speeding tickets), the cops were courteous, polite, and one even flirted a bit with me. However, when I was Asian in the wrong neighborhood, they weren’t quite so polite. Still, they never resorted to violence.

  98. 98.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 2:50 am

    @mclaren:

    You could have a rant about the militarization and glorification of police without calling them all psychopaths you know. Jeeze.

  99. 99.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Show me where I called all police psychopaths.

    You need to improve your lying skills. That kind of pathetically obvious lie just won’t cut it.

  100. 100.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 3:01 am

    However I think everyone should read Balko if they don’t already. There really is a police problem out there. Damn stupid war on (some) drugs.

  101. 101.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 3:01 am

    McLaren, fuck off. You’re in a froth and can’t see straight, let alone think.

  102. 102.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 3:03 am

    Good rebuttal! “Fuck off.”

    Now all you need is a Beavis & Butthead laugh to go with it.

  103. 103.

    mclaren

    March 3, 2010 at 3:09 am

    I’ve cited fact after fact, incident after incident. Google “police brutality videos.” You’ll find 2,210,000 hits.

    The facts pile up into a Himalayan mountain of evidence that

    “The only terrorist most Americans will ever encounter is a policeman with a badge, nightstick, mace and Taser. A Google search for “police brutality videos” turns up 2,210,000 entries. Some entries are foreign and some are probably duplications, but the number is so large that a person could do nothing but watch police brutality videos for the rest of his life. A search on “You Tube” alone turned up 2,280 police brutality videos.”

    [Paul Craig Roberts, writing at the lew rockwell site. Google “America’s police brutality pandemic Paul Craig Roberts,” I’m tired of providing links to documented cases since you people just ignore the facts and disregard the evidence.]

    And what’s your counter-argument to all those facts, all that evidence, all that Himalayan mountain of videos and reports and indictments and documented cases that show a nationwide epidemic of police brutality…?

    I’m “off my meds.” I’m a “wanker.” Oh, yes, and “f*** off.”

    Wow, that’s an impressive array of debating techniques you’ve got there. Anyone who cites inconvenient facts and uses inappropriate logic is mentally ill and needs to f*** off.

    Good reasoning. Sounds familiar. I recall hearing those kinds of impressive counter-arguments back when I was pointing out that the Iraq War wasn’t a real great idea in late 2002.

    Facts don’t count. 2,210,000 google hits for police brutality videos mean nothing. Only your anecdotal personal experiences matter.

    Remember, I’m “not even close to proving [my] case.”

    Wow. Is that really what passes for “thinking” around here? Let’s see…I’ve never had cancer…therefore nobody ever gets cancer. Goooood thinking, kooks. You’ve personally never had a bad experience with a cop, therefore all those 2,210,000 links to police brutal videos are just made-up, they don’t exist, there’s no nationwide epidemic of police brutality…

    You people are pathetic. Why don’t you just emigrate to North Korea, where you can cringe with complete slavishness?

  104. 104.

    Viva BrisVegas

    March 3, 2010 at 3:23 am

    @Deschanel:

    Yes, but modern Britain doesn’t give a damn.

    I’ll certainly take this back if I have mistaken your nationality, but why would any American really want to get into a pissing match over faded Empires?

    The US probably has much more farflung unselfdeterminated territory than even the Poms. Anybody heard of Puerto Rico?

    How about you let them keep the Falklands without complaint, and I won’t mind if you keep Guam.

  105. 105.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 3:25 am

    @mclaren:

    Define pandemic.

    You refute peoples reasoning that they have never had cancer meaning cancer isn’t prevalent by citing you can find news stories showing horrible incidences of cancer that demonstrate that cancer is pandemic.

    I realize that you are certainly innumerate but big a specific metro area and let’s talk rates of police violence. Its awesome that you are using the same tactics the right-wing breathers use to demonstrate “wide spread” welfare abuse. You know find 10 or 20 or 50 egregious cases over 6 years and then everyone is a welfare queen in a Cadillac.

  106. 106.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 3:31 am

    Getting back to the smoothies: is there some reason they need to be “the universe in a jar”? Why do smoothies need to have good fats and fiber and and and? People usually eat other stuff, not just smoothies, after all. Do you ask your salad to do all that? If so how do you fit the leafy greens into the bowl with all that other stuff?

  107. 107.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 3:37 am

    @Ailuridae: He isn’t wrong, I’m afraid. Over the top, hyperbolic and combative, but not entirely wrong. We really have militarized policing in this country. We really do have a problem. I don’t want to try to convince with numbers at 2:30am – but seriously: read Radley Balko’s blog. My advice would be to skip the political entries, but mileage will doubtless vary.

  108. 108.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 3:40 am

    @Shell Goddamnit:

    It depends on why you are using them. If you are using them as many folks do as meal replacements on a “small but frequent” meal plan you need that spread of nutrients to keep your blood sugar stable to allow your body to continue to lose fat throughout the day, If you are using them to manage blod sugar for diabetes there is minimal difference.

    Now, what Cole posted via AB isn’t a bad thing if you are looking for something better than a bag of O-KE-DOKE- at 3 PM. But Cole said he was trying to shed a few. In that instance you want a pretty even split of protein:carbs:fats in all your meals

  109. 109.

    Ailuridae

    March 3, 2010 at 3:44 am

    @Shell Goddamnit:

    Radley Balko has the same problem of innumeracy as mclaren does.

    I mean, I can cite evidence that we have a pandemic by any measurable standard of diabetes in this country. I guarantee you can’t demonstrate anything resembling that regarding police brutality.

    And thats a separate argument from thinking that the War on Drugs is a disaster. Most here agree with that, methinks.

  110. 110.

    kay

    March 3, 2010 at 8:29 am

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I knew you’d be on the calorie count thread.

  111. 111.

    flukebucket

    March 3, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Really have enjoyed the comments on nutrition. Like economics it is a subject that fascinates as well as confuses the hell out of me.

    I took my daily baby aspirin until I read it would make my stomach bleed.

    This morning I find out fish oil is giving me PCBs

    You just never know when a new study is going to show that what you have been doing for the last ten years has been the wrong thing to have been doing.

    and this

    350 calories is closer to a meal than a snack.

    broke my damn heart. 350 calories almost a meal. What a heartbreaking truth.

  112. 112.

    demimondian

    March 3, 2010 at 9:41 am

    @Viva BrisVegas: OK, to turn the story around: how many residents of Hong Kong supported reunification with the PRC?

  113. 113.

    AhabTRuler

    March 3, 2010 at 11:20 am

    demi@113: The Brits likely would have tried to hold onto HK too, but they lacked leverage. THe RN was barely ale to beat the Argentine military as it was; even 6 mos later the Brits would have been SOL.

  114. 114.

    Liz

    March 3, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    I don’t care what anyone says, SouthLAnd is the best show on TV right now. Smart, not smarmy, gritty, flawed…it’s so well done. I don’t give two hoots how real it is, and if they glorify cops or not, all I know is I want Lydia to be my friend and Ben and John to be watching over me. I have to catch my breath at the end of each show. It’s entertainment.

    My only gripe is that TNT doesn’t seem to be showing complete episodes, which is so annoying.

  115. 115.

    Tofu Shake

    March 3, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Too many complicated ingredients.

    Make a tofu shake – it may not sound appetizing but tofu tastes like whatever you eat it with. Banana and apple juice are sweet enough to make it tasty.

    Single serving (~1 pint glass):

    1 banana
    1/4 of a tofu block
    1-2 Cups apple juice

    Blend and drink! Quick, easy, filling, nutritious.

    Vary the amount of apple juice to make it thicker or thinner.
    I don’t use “silken” tofu b/c I don’t like it, but you can use whatever you want – the blender will liquefy it.

    Variations:
    add fresh or frozen berries (blueberries or Trader joe’s mixed berries work well).
    spoonful of peanutbutter.
    dash of vanilla.
    Other juices or fruits you have handy.

  116. 116.

    Viva BrisVegas

    March 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    @demimondian:

    how many residents of Hong Kong supported reunification with the PRC?

    I have no idea, but given the numbers that left the place in the years leading up to reunification, I would guess that it was a bit unpopular.

    But with the New Territories on a 99 year lease, the British were left with little choice in the matter. They certainly couldn’t give the PRC a big FU and expect to be taken seriously.

    Although I rather suspect that had the leases been perpetual the PRC would have been reasonably happy to continue with the status quo.

  117. 117.

    Viva BrisVegas

    March 3, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    @AhabTRuler:

    The Brits likely would have tried to hold onto HK too, but they lacked leverage.

    What they mostly lacked was justification.

    THe RN was barely ale to beat the Argentine military as it was

    Mounting a military expedition across six thousand miles of ocean is a tricky business, but at least they finished it. How’s that Iraq/Afghanistan thing going?

  118. 118.

    Shell Goddamnit

    March 3, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    @Ailuridae:

    I don’t know what you mean by pandemic in this context. Is it…catching? Maybe. Do you mean increasing, or what? I don’t care if that asshole mclaren used the word. My argument is not that there is, specifically, a “pandemic” of police misbehavior. It’s that there IS police misbehavior, and plenty of it.

    Radley Balko isn’t necessarily innumerate. He doesn’t care if there’s an INCREASING number of these incidents; he thinks there’s too many of them in any case. I would agree with that.

    Besides that, there’s no question but that SWAT tactics being used for warrant service has exploded during the war on drugs. It’s the militarization that’s the problem. That gives the kind of cops that will punish contempt of cop brutally, both cover and company. And besides that still, the pestilential use of tasers as compliance tools definitely exploded from zero about what, five to ten years ago?

    But then, the police riot in Chicago was in 1968…the war on drugs was not even under way at that point. So. Maybe it’s the nature of policing, and we’re noticing it more because more people have video cameras to hand. That doesn’t make it acceptable, does it?

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