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by John Cole|  March 3, 20109:40 pm| 75 Comments

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Disgusted.

Off to ME 2. See you tomorrow.

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  1. 1.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    March 3, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    quitter

    gang sign

  2. 2.

    PaulW

    March 3, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    I’m not a quitter.

    Vote Wartenberg 2010 for US Senate! I Need The Job!

  3. 3.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    That means what? We should expect another six posts tonight?

    .

  4. 4.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    March 3, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    @JGabriel: at a minimum/

  5. 5.

    BR

    March 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    If anyone lives in Rep. Arcuri’s district in NY, you should call about HCR:

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/03/heat.php?ref=fpblg

  6. 6.

    demkat620

    March 3, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Can’t say I blame you when thirty percent of the nation are flat out sick idiotic fucks anymore.

  7. 7.

    gbear

    March 3, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I’ve never been to ME.

  8. 8.

    Brian J

    March 3, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    If you’d like to read a good fisking of a dumb idea by Mike Pence and Jeb Hensarling, which is to limit government spending to 20 percent of the nation’s economy each year, go read Bruce Bartlett right here. This is just one more example of why, despite numerous problems, the Democrats are a far better choice than the Republicans in almost every imaginable way.

  9. 9.

    ronin122

    March 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Probably posted already elsewhere here today but good old Erick Erickson has said something bizarre today. Says the GOP doesn’t want a black man in the senate and claims it to be sarcasm. But in a way it’s quite true probably, at least with the hoi polloi of the party. I’d ask if you think he senses the irony in his words but we know he doesn’t.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    @gbear: I hope you realize this means war.

  11. 11.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    @gbear:

    Aaaagh. I don’t know if that link is to what I think it is, and I ain’t clicking on it, but even if it isn’t I still have that song in my head now.

    FUCK YOU FUCKER.

    (Sometimes I’ve been to crying for unborn children that might have made me complete…)

  12. 12.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    March 3, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Tonight I am incredibly upset and disappointed with my friends. I actually had faith they were good people.

  13. 13.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    I wouldn’t normally link to a Sully post, but the joy and happiness (and mockery of the sign carrying religious wierdos) in these photos of the first day of marriage equality in DC deserves as much airing as it can get.

    Brought a tear or three to my cynical eyes.

  14. 14.

    jeffreyw

    March 3, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Cool Hand Luke winding up on TCM. Alien next.

  15. 15.

    gbear

    March 3, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    @Tattoosydney:

    I sincerely apologize. I knew the title but didn’t know how awful the song really was.

    Here’s another bad joke (with video) via TPM:

    A Louisiana sheriff plans to arm volunteers with shotguns, riot shields, batons, and a .50-caliber machine gun mounted on a “war wagon,” as part of “Operation Exodus,” a program to provide security in the event of a terrorist attack or civic unrest. “It’s a calling,” he says.

  16. 16.

    jeffreyw

    March 3, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    A little something to eat.

  17. 17.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    @gbear: If that’s what I think it is, you are one sick motherfucker who should be tried in the Hague with the Gitmo torturers — because that song is no less a torture than waterboarding and sleep deprivation.

    (Besides, someone already posted that the night we did Atrocities of the Seventies!)

    Edited to add: Ah, I see TattooSydney got there first.

    .

  18. 18.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 3, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    I’m on my 3rd ME2, this time at “Hardcore.” I have no idea how “Insanity” plays out, I’m having a hell of a time – just got off “Horizon” after getting my ass shot off – repeatedly – and it’s not as if I had no clue and didn’t pick up some bonuses for importing a ME2 character for the replay.

  19. 19.

    RedKitten

    March 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Good times — I just found out that I don’t have a job to go back to when my mat leave ends in July. The non-profit for which I work is pulling the plug in May.

    So, I’ve got until then to find something new (that pays as much as my erstwhile job), or we’re screwed — I won’t be eligible for unemployment insurance, as I’m currently on mat leave, which means I’d have exactly $zilch in monthly income.

    Send the good vibes, people. Send the good vibes.

  20. 20.

    SIA

    March 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Watching Little Dorrit on DVD. Nothing like Victorian fiction for enjoyable distraction.

  21. 21.

    Morbo

    March 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Congratulations on having the range of motion back to play.

  22. 22.

    SIA

    March 3, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @Chuck Butcher: It’s like you guys are talking a foreign language. This is a video game? (Back to Dickens…)

  23. 23.

    freelancer (itouch)

    March 3, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    What are you talking about?

  24. 24.

    SIA

    March 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    @RedKitten: Sending now – sorry to hear, but it’s a window closing so a door to something better can open. I feel sure.

  25. 25.

    jacy

    March 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Oh, geez – best of luck. I’ll send as many good thoughts as I can your direction. Hang in there.

  26. 26.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @gbear:

    I knew the title but didn’t know how awful the song really was.

    It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.

    “Oh, I didn’t know that agent orange was bad…”

    Bastard.

  27. 27.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    March 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @freelancer (itouch):
    Massive personal drama with friends.

    Something just blew up, and I had faith that they were reasonable enough to work it out.

  28. 28.

    John Cole

    March 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    @RedKitten: Ugh.

  29. 29.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    @gbear:
    @JGabriel:

    you are one sick motherfucker who should be tried in the Hague with the Gitmo torturers and sentenced to listen to that song over and over for the rest of your life

    Fixt.

  30. 30.

    Svensker

    March 3, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Oooh, that stinks. Sending up good thoughts and crossed fingers for you.

  31. 31.

    RedKitten

    March 3, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    @John Cole: Yes, that’s one way to put it. :) I’m sure it’ll work out. I’ve got a few months to find something new. It’s just a bit nerve-wracking. We spent so much time building the house, so the thought of losing it doesn’t feel very good. And more than that, it’s the land. A house can be re-created somewhere else. But if we lose our land, that’s it….it’s gone.

    Anyhoodle, I had a job interview last week, and am just waiting to hear back, so maybe it’ll be good news.

  32. 32.

    MikeJ

    March 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    @SIA: I downloaded the bbc radio version a few months back when they aired it, but I haven’t gotten around to it yet. About 12 hours worth, IIRC.

  33. 33.

    gogol's wife

    March 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    @RedKitten:

    I’m sorry. Sending all the vibes I can.

  34. 34.

    demkat620

    March 3, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    @RedKitten: Oh no Redkitten! That is horrible news.

    Good thoughts your way.

  35. 35.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    @gbear:

    Just for that, you have to listen to this all the way through.

    Warning to everyone else – clicking on that link may damage your sanity.

    Edited to make it WORSE!

  36. 36.

    freelancer (itouch)

    March 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    Whatever it was, it really cuts deep when people you trust disappoint. I’m sorry.
    @RedKitten:

    I’m sorry, redk. The whole world just sucks today, doesn’t it?

  37. 37.

    gbear

    March 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    @Tattoosydney:

    I tried. I couldn’t. I’ll second the warning. I’m so sorry.

  38. 38.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Adding my sympathy (for what it’s worth).

  39. 39.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    @gbear:

    Hee.

  40. 40.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    March 3, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    @RedKitten: I hear you guys have universal health care up there. So there’s that, My vibes are a little cranky these days, but I’ll tease out a few good ones and send them north by north east.

  41. 41.

    Walker

    March 3, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    @Chuck Butcher:

    It is well known that you should not use an ME 2 import character (New Game +) for the harder difficulties. The enemies scale with your level, but you do not have the upgrades to help against them. It is easier to be lower level so that the enemies are lower too.

    I would be on my 3rd play-through right now, but after two playthroughs, my wife grabbed the X-Box from me and started her own.

  42. 42.

    Anne Laurie

    March 3, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    @RedKitten: Sorry to hear that, RedKitten. You’ll be in my… positive thoughts. Since you were dreading returning to your old job, here’s hoping the new job will be a lot more enticing!

  43. 43.

    Annie

    March 3, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Ugh is right. Hopefully, something will come up before July. If not, I think we can have a “save the land” project. If nothing else, we, here, at BJ, are a community. I am in…

  44. 44.

    Anne Laurie

    March 3, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    @Tattoosydney: Does it mark me as a helplessly vile excuse for a human being if I admit I kinda liked the original version?

    Even under that handicap, yours is pretty dam’ terrible.

  45. 45.

    J. Michael Neal

    March 3, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    @RedKitten: Sorry about that, Ms. Kitten. I’d offer to help, but my vibes don’t seem to be any good at job finding. I think others should handle this.

    If you ever need someone gang audited, though, I’m available.

  46. 46.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    @J. Michael Neal:

    If you ever need someone gang audited, though, I’m available.

    I can think of a few people…

  47. 47.

    DonBelacquaDelPurgatorio

    March 3, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Crap, that is rotten news.

    LD and I send big lovewaves toward you guys while you deal with this. Hang in there.

  48. 48.

    Dr. Morpheus

    March 3, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Good times—I just found out that I don’t have a job to go back to when my mat leave ends in July. The non-profit for which I work is pulling the plug in May.
    So, I’ve got until then to find something new (that pays as much as my erstwhile job), or we’re screwed—I won’t be eligible for unemployment insurance, as I’m currently on mat leave, which means I’d have exactly $zilch in monthly income.
    Send the good vibes, people. Send the good vibes.

    I’ll send whatever good vibes I can. After 11 months of unemployment I get a part-time, temp job at a non-prof myself only to discover that this means I am no longer eligible for unemployment now that the temp job has ended.

    So unless I can either convince the unemployment office that this only discourages people from getting any employment other than full time permanent positions (and thus staying on unemployment longer) or perhaps convince one of my Senators or Representatives to advocate for me, I too am stuck in the same situation.

  49. 49.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Does it mark me as a helplessly vile excuse for a human being if I admit I kinda liked the original version?

    Not really. The Sarah Brightman/Andrea Boccelli version is, I admit shamefacedly, one of those songs I kind of like a little bit perhaps maybe deep down in my heart (and my mum loves it ever since she heard it as her cruise ship was leaving Venice), so I can’t hate it.

    The Donna Summer version, however, is the aural equivalent of mustard gas.

  50. 50.

    SIA

    March 3, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    @32 MikeJ, yeah that’s the one I’m watching. It is excellently done.

  51. 51.

    Brian J

    March 3, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    @RedKitten:

    I’m very sorry to hear that. If you don’t mind me asking, what line of work are you in?

  52. 52.

    Svensker

    March 3, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    @Tattoosydney:

    The Donna Summer version, however, is the aural equivalent of mustard gas.

    Really? Really? Hmmmmm. I like Donna Summer. A lot. Under appreciated artist, in my mind. And I feel no shame for making this statement.

  53. 53.

    robertdsc

    March 3, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    @RedKitten:
    Keeping good thoughts for you and yours.

  54. 54.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 3, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    @SIA:
    Mass Effect 2, a video game – space opera genre. The story line attempts to be an equal player to the action element, pretty much succeeds. I’m playing on XBox 360 w/50″ screen and surround theater sound.

    That’s pretty effective once the room starts to shake…

  55. 55.

    Tattoosydney

    March 3, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    @Svensker:

    I like Donna Summer.

    Me too. “I feel love” , “Hot Stuff”, “On the Radio”, “Bad Girls”, “Last Dance” – all fine, fine songs.

    Donna singing “Con te Partiro”? A screwdriver in the ears.

  56. 56.

    slag

    March 3, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    @RedKitten: Suckage! Let us know if there’s anything we can do. Networks can be incredibly helpful in these kinds of situations.

  57. 57.

    SIA

    March 3, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    @ Chuck Butcher, oh yeah! I see! You just…um huh?

  58. 58.

    nwithers

    March 3, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    pro tip: Don’t Lick the Krogan

  59. 59.

    demimondian

    March 3, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    @RedKitten: Oh, that’s awful. I’d offer to help…but I don’t know of anything I can do.

  60. 60.

    Ash Can

    March 3, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    @RedKitten: Bleah. Here’s hoping something good turns up, and soon.

  61. 61.

    The Main Gauche of Mild Reason

    March 3, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    I really liked the character development in Mass Effect 2, and I feel like the gameplay was much more streamlined (i.e., less randomly running around figuring where to go in the Mako) but I was sort of disappointed in how short/small the zones turned out to be. The tiny Citadel (you can’t even go to the council chambers!) was also a disappointment.

    Hopefully ME3 will be more of a happy medium between ME1 and 2. Sometimes I feel like ME2 is just Dragon Age in Space. Which is not to say it’s bad, just that where ME built up gradually to an awesome climax, ME2 stayed at pretty much the same drama/difficulty most of the way through and seemed anticlimactic at the end.

    Also, was it just me, or did ME2 steal lots of plot from Battlestar Galactica? Come on–secret base near a black hole?

  62. 62.

    trollhattan

    March 3, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Hey, I know, let’s have a do-over on Scopes v. State! We can turn the old barn into a theater.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/science/earth/04climate.html?pagewanted=1&hp

    I loathe these people with a blue-white passion.

    @ Redkitten: So sorry. Been there, done that, got the tshirt, but no good advice to share. Having cuuuute bebee around will definitely help!

  63. 63.

    Walker

    March 4, 2010 at 12:06 am

    @The Main Gauche of Mild Reason:

    Which is not to say it’s bad, just that where ME built up gradually to an awesome climax, ME2 stayed at pretty much the same drama/difficulty most of the way through and seemed anticlimactic at the end.

    I disagree. Once you go through the Omega-4 relay, the game is pretty rockin.

    Yes, the recruitment/loyalty missions are uneven (though Tali’s recruitment is awesome), but the Collector missions are solid.

  64. 64.

    Yutsano

    March 4, 2010 at 12:31 am

    @RedKitten: I swear to stop bitching about my job until you haz a new one. Also let me know when your husband starts up stone carvings, my parents bought a new house and will need some artwork for the new ranch.

    Oh yeah just to whore for that, RedKitten’s husband does some amazing stone carving work.

  65. 65.

    YellowJournalism

    March 4, 2010 at 12:37 am

    @RedKitten: Sending some your way. Maybe if I scrunch my eyes up real tight, the good vibes will get there sooner.

  66. 66.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2010 at 3:12 am

    @RedKitten:

    Good times—I just found out that I don’t have a job to go back to when my mat leave ends in July. The non-profit for which I work is pulling the plug in May.

    Ugh. That sucks.

    So, I’ve got until then to find something new (that pays as much as my erstwhile job), or we’re screwed—I won’t be eligible for unemployment insurance, as I’m currently on mat leave, which means I’d have exactly $zilch in monthly income.

    Make that a Double-Suck.

    Send the good vibes, people. Send the good vibes.

    Attempting to transmit Good Vibes. Hope you will be receiving them.

    EDIT: BTW – Except for the maternity leave (biologically impossible) I was in a similar situation at the end of 2003. Job ending, medical problem, medical insurance going to very expensive COBRA or going away altogether. 53 years old and absolutely no prospects or clues as to what to do/where to go.

    10 months later I landed my current job and I’ve been happily/gainfully employed ever since.

    Hope you can catch a similar bounce.

  67. 67.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 4, 2010 at 4:25 am

    @Tattoosydney: Gotta go straight up Andrea Bocelli, bitchez. He is the man! I adore him.

    @RedKitten: Aw, that is so sucky, RedKitten. Major, massive good vibes to you!

    @Dr. Morpheus: Massive vibes to you, too. I will not kick your ass for screwing with my sleep. Not until you get your job sitch worked out.

  68. 68.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 4, 2010 at 4:27 am

    FYWP. Repost part one.
    @Tattoosydney: Gotta go straight up Andrea Bocelli, bitchez. He is the man! I adore him.

    P.S. Thanks for the Sully link. I teared up as well.

  69. 69.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 4, 2010 at 4:29 am

    FYWP Part Two Repost.

    @RedKitten: That is massively sucky. Major good vibes headed up north. Keep us posted!

    @Dr. Morpheus: Massive vibes to you, too. I will not kick your ass for screwing with my sleep. Not until you get your job sitch worked out.

  70. 70.

    RedKitten

    March 4, 2010 at 7:29 am

    @Brian J:

    I’m very sorry to hear that. If you don’t mind me asking, what line of work are you in?

    I’m a PR flack, believe it or not. :)

    The problem is partly of my own doing. We live in a rural area, and while there are two decent-sized towns within a 45-minute drive, the only two cities (Moncton, N.B. and Halifax, N.S.) are an 1.5 hours and 2 hours away, respectively. I probably COULD find something if we were willing to move back to the city. But, we put three years of our life and a lot of blood, sweat and tears into building our home. And our land isn’t just your generic building lot. It was his dad’s land — 4.3 acres, with over 500 feet of riverfrontage, and my husband used to play on this very land all the time as a kid. So if we were in a generic apartment, we probably would be willing to look at relocating. But there’s just an absurd quantity of sentimental attachment to our home. Plus, we have so much family here. And free babysitting.

    Plus, the contrary side of me, which gets pissed off at the fact that our government is always talking about job creation, but only creates jobs in Halifax, balks at the idea of contributing to the outflow of young families abandoning the rural areas.

    I’m sure something will come up. Thank you for all of your kind wishes, and I’ll keep you posted.

  71. 71.

    Seth 4:10

    March 4, 2010 at 9:02 am

    I’m about 90% done with my Insanity playthru, trading my run and gun Vanguard from my Hardcore game (Biotic Charge OWNS) for a more tactical Infiltrator build. Lob an Incinerate to get any organic to break cover and then pop ‘em like a balloon. Fun times….

  72. 72.

    Walker

    March 4, 2010 at 11:58 am

    @Seth 4:10:

    Infiltrator turns Insanity into easy mode. My next goal is to go back to my Adept and see if I can get it to work on Insanity.

  73. 73.

    Eric

    March 4, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Just finished my first playthrough of ME2 last night… Paragon Adept imported from ME1. The suicide mission did not go as well as I’d hoped. Some choices I made that I thought were good resulted in sub-optimal conclusions. It’s weird, it actually left me pretty depressed! I’m going to have to go through the ending again tonight so that everything works out well. Yay second chances!

    I’m pretty curious to do a playthrough where I deliberately do everything wrong, so that the suicide mission becomes a clusterfuck. A cool thing about the game is that a clusterfuck suicide mission is exactly the result you get if you zip through as fast as you can, skipping everything that’s optional. Great game design choice.

  74. 74.

    Walker

    March 4, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    @Eric:

    Who you assign to the second teams in the final mission matters, even if you have their loyalty. And it affects things in subtle ways. If you pick someone who is a not good enough for a mission (e.g. Miranda for the biotic shield), then that will result in the death of OTHER people.

  75. 75.

    Eric

    March 4, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    @Walker: Walker: I learned that afterwards, because I checked a walkthrough to see where I went wrong! That’s how upset I was! In my note above I wanted to avoid spoilers, but I’ll say this: I picked Jacob for that part, thinking his barrier power would protect him from enemy fire. Turns out that didn’t matter at all! DAMN YOU JACOB!!

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