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You are here: Home / Open Threads / More Than One Way To Save A Fetus

More Than One Way To Save A Fetus

by Tim F|  March 15, 20107:35 pm| 20 Comments

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Any readers in blue dog districts? Might want to bring this up with your Rep tomorrow.

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  1. 1.

    Ash Can

    March 15, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    It’s time for the so-called “pro-lifers” to put their money where their mouths are.

  2. 2.

    beltane

    March 15, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I think it’s OK with these people if the death of the fetus causes the death of the mother. It’s only problematic if the mother survives, especially if she goes on to have a happy life.

  3. 3.

    MattMinus

    March 15, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    This is obviously not true because we have the greatest health care in the world. Very rich people from all over the world come here for treatment, you medi-dummy.

  4. 4.

    Mnemosyne

    March 15, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @beltane:

    The only thing the fetus fans have a problem with is if the mother makes a deliberate decision to not continue the pregnancy. If she miscarries or has a stillbirth because the “pro-life” squad couldn’t be bothered to fund things like universal prenatal care, then that’s a win for them, too.

  5. 5.

    MTiffany

    March 15, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @Ash Can: Those people are not “pro-life,” they are anti-choice. If they really gave two shits about life, they’d demand single-payer health care and comprehensive sex-ed in schools. But that would conflict with a simple truth that the anti-choice crowd will never understand nor stipulate to: “A pregnancy which never occurs never ends in abortion.”

  6. 6.

    MattMinus

    March 15, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    [Quote=MTiffany]
    A simple truth that the anti-choice crowd will never understand nor stipulate to: “A pregnancy which never occurs never ends in abortion.”
    [/quote]

    That’s prebortion, which, in some ways, is even worse.

  7. 7.

    Brian J

    March 15, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    The U.S. has the best health care system in the world, so what is your point?

  8. 8.

    Honus

    March 15, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Obviously the mothers dying in childbirth are brown poor women who can’t afford the best health care system in the world, so what’s the problem? I suppose you want to tax the productive members of society just to keep them from dying.

  9. 9.

    Mr Furious

    March 15, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Irrelevant. The people Blue Dogs and GOP pols know are wealthy, white and have excellent health care—antepartum, during childbirth and postpartum.

    File under “Effects Brown People.”

  10. 10.

    Mr Furious

    March 15, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Or, what Honus said.

  11. 11.

    Linkmeister

    March 15, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    From the study linked above:

    Nearly 13 million women of reproductive age (15 to 44), or one in five, have no health insurance.

  12. 12.

    Martin

    March 15, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Maybe if we didn’t have such a soshulist health care system, this shit wouldn’t be happening. Do you have any idea how few babies are born under Medicare relative to the number of women covered? It’s like government provided genocide!

  13. 13.

    Admiral_Komack

    March 15, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    They don’t care about the woman.
    They ONLY care about The Fetus.

  14. 14.

    PeakVT

    March 15, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    They ONLY care about The Fetus.

    They only care about themselves. The fetus is a way to suck up to God without having to do anything hard.

  15. 15.

    Svensker

    March 15, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Fetus dying because mother had abortion? — teh horrible.

    Fetus dying because mother is a lazy slut minority who couldn’t be bothered to get a good enough job to pay for health insurance? — the obvious consequence of letting those people in our society and no more than they deserve.

  16. 16.

    PTirebiter

    March 15, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @PeakVT: I’m sure there are exceptions, but yea. I mean what’s the righteous outrage factor for millions neglected, compared to millions MURDERED?
    Besides, after birth, the child is out of their hands.

  17. 17.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    @PeakVT:

    They only care about themselves.

    It gives them a certain thrill of gratification, doesn’t it. Masturbortion?

  18. 18.

    kay

    March 15, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    @PeakVT:

    I agree. It’s an easy cause to take up, isn’t it?

    No real sacrifice, a lot of speechifying, and the opposition are politicians and judges, an easily vilified group, because we’re never, ever talking about individual women, we’re always just talking about laws or policy.

    It was deliberate. It’s a political non-starter to set this up as anti-abortion activists versus certain women, so instead we don’t even mention the women, we just blow right by them and make it anti-abortion activists versus those venal and evil “laws”.

    It’s not even that the women are helpless victims of the evil lawmakers, they’re not even there.

  19. 19.

    Luthe

    March 16, 2010 at 12:19 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    If she miscarries or has a stillbirth because the “pro-life” squad couldn’t be bothered to fund things like universal prenatal care, then that’s a win for them, too.

    Offer not valid in all states. Utah has just put all miscarriages under suspicion and Iowa thinks falling down while pregnant is a crime. The god-botherers want you to carry that baby, no matter what.

  20. 20.

    gypsy howell

    March 16, 2010 at 6:43 am

    Maybe if they positioned it as “innocent fetuses dying because of lack of fetus (ie, pre-natal) healthcare”, it would matter to the anti-choicers.

    The fact that the fetus delivery system dies is no biggie. In fact it’s as it should be — serves her right for not being a perfectly healthy fetus delivery system.

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