Any readers in blue dog districts? Might want to bring this up with your Rep tomorrow.
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After dobbs, women are no longer free.
If rights aren’t universal, they are privilege, not rights.
Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.
President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.
There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you do not.
If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.
I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.
Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.
Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.
Let there be snark.
If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.
Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?
America is going up in flames. The NYTimes fawns over MAGA celebrities. No longer a real newspaper.
We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.
The arc of the moral universe does not bend itself. it is up to us to bend it.
This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.
Polls are now a reliable indicator of what corporate Republicans want us to think.
The worst democrat is better than the best republican.
75% of people clapping liked the show!
Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.
Their shamelessness is their super power.
Republicans in disarray!
If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.
Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.
Ash Can
It’s time for the so-called “pro-lifers” to put their money where their mouths are.
beltane
I think it’s OK with these people if the death of the fetus causes the death of the mother. It’s only problematic if the mother survives, especially if she goes on to have a happy life.
MattMinus
This is obviously not true because we have the greatest health care in the world. Very rich people from all over the world come here for treatment, you medi-dummy.
Mnemosyne
@beltane:
The only thing the fetus fans have a problem with is if the mother makes a deliberate decision to not continue the pregnancy. If she miscarries or has a stillbirth because the “pro-life” squad couldn’t be bothered to fund things like universal prenatal care, then that’s a win for them, too.
MTiffany
@Ash Can: Those people are not “pro-life,” they are anti-choice. If they really gave two shits about life, they’d demand single-payer health care and comprehensive sex-ed in schools. But that would conflict with a simple truth that the anti-choice crowd will never understand nor stipulate to: “A pregnancy which never occurs never ends in abortion.”
MattMinus
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A simple truth that the anti-choice crowd will never understand nor stipulate to: “A pregnancy which never occurs never ends in abortion.”
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That’s prebortion, which, in some ways, is even worse.
Brian J
The U.S. has the best health care system in the world, so what is your point?
Honus
Obviously the mothers dying in childbirth are brown poor women who can’t afford the best health care system in the world, so what’s the problem? I suppose you want to tax the productive members of society just to keep them from dying.
Mr Furious
Irrelevant. The people Blue Dogs and GOP pols know are wealthy, white and have excellent health care—antepartum, during childbirth and postpartum.
File under “Effects Brown People.”
Mr Furious
Or, what Honus said.
Linkmeister
From the study linked above:
Martin
Maybe if we didn’t have such a soshulist health care system, this shit wouldn’t be happening. Do you have any idea how few babies are born under Medicare relative to the number of women covered? It’s like government provided genocide!
Admiral_Komack
They don’t care about the woman.
They ONLY care about The Fetus.
PeakVT
They ONLY care about The Fetus.
They only care about themselves. The fetus is a way to suck up to God without having to do anything hard.
Svensker
Fetus dying because mother had abortion? — teh horrible.
Fetus dying because mother is a lazy slut minority who couldn’t be bothered to get a good enough job to pay for health insurance? — the obvious consequence of letting those people in our society and no more than they deserve.
PTirebiter
@PeakVT: I’m sure there are exceptions, but yea. I mean what’s the righteous outrage factor for millions neglected, compared to millions MURDERED?
Besides, after birth, the child is out of their hands.
FlipYrWhig
@PeakVT:
It gives them a certain thrill of gratification, doesn’t it. Masturbortion?
kay
@PeakVT:
I agree. It’s an easy cause to take up, isn’t it?
No real sacrifice, a lot of speechifying, and the opposition are politicians and judges, an easily vilified group, because we’re never, ever talking about individual women, we’re always just talking about laws or policy.
It was deliberate. It’s a political non-starter to set this up as anti-abortion activists versus certain women, so instead we don’t even mention the women, we just blow right by them and make it anti-abortion activists versus those venal and evil “laws”.
It’s not even that the women are helpless victims of the evil lawmakers, they’re not even there.
Luthe
@Mnemosyne:
Offer not valid in all states. Utah has just put all miscarriages under suspicion and Iowa thinks falling down while pregnant is a crime. The god-botherers want you to carry that baby, no matter what.
gypsy howell
Maybe if they positioned it as “innocent fetuses dying because of lack of fetus (ie, pre-natal) healthcare”, it would matter to the anti-choicers.
The fact that the fetus delivery system dies is no biggie. In fact it’s as it should be — serves her right for not being a perfectly healthy fetus delivery system.