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by John Cole|  March 20, 20108:49 am| 41 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Comrade Jake

    March 20, 2010 at 8:54 am

    I think the Dems are about to finally effect a major victory, and spin it as the same, which is mildly remarkable.

  2. 2.

    gnomedad

    March 20, 2010 at 8:59 am

    What will the wingers do when HCR passes and no one shows up to euthanize Grandma?

  3. 3.

    RedKitten

    March 20, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Love the new subtitle. :)

    I assume you’re packing and all that good stuff, John?

    I find that when packing, people tend to fall into two categories: the ones who, when going through their stuff, decide “screw it, half of this stuff isn’t worth the trouble of packing”, and they give it away or trash it. And then you have the ones who, when going through their stuff, say, “screw it, half of this stuff isn’t worth the trouble of sorting”, and they just fling everything (old ATM receipts, mismatched socks, the lid from a tin of Quality Street) into boxes and bring it all with them.

    I’m guessing you’re in the former category…

  4. 4.

    RedKitten

    March 20, 2010 at 9:04 am

    @Comrade Jake:

    I think the Dems are about to finally effect a major victory, and spin it as the same, which is mildly remarkable.

    I’ll believes it when I sees it.

    But that WOULD definitely be gratifying.

  5. 5.

    mr. whipple

    March 20, 2010 at 9:05 am

    @gnomedad:

    Screw the wingers. I wanna know how I’ll feel on Monday when I wake up to my socialist paradise.

  6. 6.

    rob!

    March 20, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Got up, checked again–yep, Republicans still lying, heartless assholes.

    Btw, my gf and I feed a pack of feral cats that live behind a nearby 711. About twice a week, we stop by and drop half a dozen cans of soft food, which they greedily consume.

    I mention that every so often on my FB page, and after I did last time, one of my “friends” who’s an uber-right winger called them “Welfare Kitties.” WELFARE KITTIES.

    That’s how heartless, narrow-minded, and just plain odd these people are.

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    March 20, 2010 at 9:10 am

    @gnomedad:

    What will the wingers do when HCR passes and no one shows up to euthanize Grandma?

    I figure they’ll keep lying, since that’s what they do best. Their lies will fall into one of two categories:

    1) They’ll make up some more lies about HCR, e.g. that their really are death panels and we’re too stupid to notice or,
    2) Start lying like crazy about the next vital reform that Democrats are trying to pass, like Cap and Trade, Financial Regulation, or Immigration Reform.

    Either way, backing down on the crazy is not in the cards.

  8. 8.

    Michael D.

    March 20, 2010 at 9:19 am

    I will be running a the ING Marathon in Alanta tomorrow morning. If I no longer comment after today, could you think of me first, then rejoice? (in that order)

  9. 9.

    Leelee for Obama

    March 20, 2010 at 9:22 am

    The media will do the same-just heard on MSNBC this question and answer:

    What if people have insurance through their employer and they like it?

    Answer: The bill says they can keep that coverage and doctor, BUT are employers really going to keep paying for expensive PRIVATE insurance when a GOVERNMENT program is available?

    My guess is there are too many bleached blondes on this AM and they missed the part where the PUBLIC OPTION isn’t in the bill.

    ONE DESPAIRS!

    Sorry for yelling, but I’m just slightly awake, and already pissed.

  10. 10.

    Leelee for Obama

    March 20, 2010 at 9:25 am

    @rob!: Yeah, if those starving feral kitties can’t make the free-market invisible hand provide for them, then we should just them starve!

    May I suggest that asshole go Cheney him or her self?

  11. 11.

    Lisa K.

    March 20, 2010 at 9:29 am

    @rob!:

    I mention that every so often on my FB page, and after I did last time, one of my “friends” who’s an uber-right winger called them “Welfare Kitties.” WELFARE KITTIES. That’s how heartless, narrow-minded, and just plain odd these people are.

    He is probably thrilled that they can be scooped up and sterilized without their consent, though. Just like any welfare queen should be…

  12. 12.

    mai naem

    March 20, 2010 at 9:32 am

    They’re going to take it to court. Bill McCollum(remember him from the Clinton impeachment) and SC and VA AGs have said they are going to take it to court because the mandate is unconstitutional. And ofcourse, Roberts,Scalia and Thomas will want to take the case on. They have to keep the issue alive till the election. Also too, they’ll move on somewhat to the “Democrat ethics” crap with Blago, Rangel and Massa.

  13. 13.

    rob!

    March 20, 2010 at 9:35 am

    May I suggest that asshole go Cheney him or her self?

    I have a couple of “friends” who leave right wing comments on my FB page, in response to something I’ve written. I used to get mad and argue back, now I just ignore them completely.

    I wonder what kind of people are SO beholden to their narrow views that they even try to work starving cats into the equation. Jesus.

  14. 14.

    scav

    March 20, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Long live welfare kitties! Oh, this is positively a Delphic clue, or it may not be. Maybe a groundhoundic clue to prepare for 6 more months of astroturfed screaming: Obama Tells Congress: Act Soon on Financial Reform. Somebody was up early and had his Wheaties.

    Ah, there’s my coffee noise.

  15. 15.

    Bootlegger

    March 20, 2010 at 9:36 am

    @gnomedad: Do it themselves and make it look like the Black Man did it.

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    March 20, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Too busy to even check the headlines

    Too bad, because Benedict XVI’s letter to the Irish Church is out, and he’s surprisingly critical. He says that priests who are guilty of abuse should face Earthly justice, and that the Bishops who covered for them were guilty of grave error. I don’t think it’s enough, but it’s a hell of a lot better than I expected.

  17. 17.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    March 20, 2010 at 9:37 am

    @rob!:

    That’s how heartless, narrow-minded, and just plain odd fucked up these people are.

    Fix’t. Odd how that works, eh? ;)

  18. 18.

    scav

    March 20, 2010 at 9:46 am

    @scav: whoooo, do not attempt identification of allegorical animals before coffee: Chance of severe genetic modification. That was, I now have reason to believe, meant for a groundhogic clue about the oncoming ambient noise levels.

    how DID you guess crossword puzzles follow my java?

  19. 19.

    scav

    March 20, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Huh. rob!’s friend is really really whacked. ’cause unless he wears a redwhiteblue stripey hat and has a beard we’d be stunned to recognize off Orville Redenbacher, private charity has now been re-defined as welfare. FSM, the state of their souls.

  20. 20.

    Maude

    March 20, 2010 at 9:56 am

    @RedKitten: @3
    I used to toss everything into backs and take it along.
    In this apartment, I have done a grand sort. I shredded papers, gave away clothes and got rid of everything I was never going to use.
    When I move, some day, I am less than 3 hours to get everything out and vacumn (sp).

  21. 21.

    Karen

    March 20, 2010 at 10:02 am

    DId anyone here watch “Real Time With Bill Maher” last night?

    Dennis Kucinich was on last night and it was great because he explained why he was supporting this bill.

    On the other hand, I just found an article on the NY Times website:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/health/policy/19arizona.html?src=me&ref=health

    Apparently, Arizona just dropped their Children’s Health Insurance Program and rolled back Medicaid for childless adults which is supposed to drop 310,000 people from the rolls.

    Dropping CHIP means they don’t get millions in federal matching aid.

    And….more cuts will be made if the taxpayers reject a penny sales tax increase for 3 years. A fricking PENNY! It would be 6.6 per dollar. The referendum is in May. Arizona is the first state to do this but since the Governor is a Republican, I’m sure it won’t be the last.

    Is it a coincidence that they happened to do this the day before the possible passage of the health care bill?

    Pigs fly too. It’s almost as if Arizona is punishing their poor people and children for the vote tomorrow.

    Arizona can secede tomorrow. Take it and John McCain and join Texas, Alabama and all those states that have been rattling their sabers about states rights.

  22. 22.

    gbear

    March 20, 2010 at 10:09 am

    Too busy thinkin’ ’bout my baby.

    Cold (25f) but sunny here this morning and I’m feeling guardedly optomistic. I’m going to try to be Mr. Goodvibes this weekend.

  23. 23.

    gbear

    March 20, 2010 at 10:17 am

    @mai naem:

    They’re going to take it to court.

    That line plays well only until the bill passes. When people start benefiting from the bill, there’s going to be a lot of ‘hey, what the fuck’ coming at those state AGs.

  24. 24.

    mai naem

    March 20, 2010 at 10:25 am

    @Karen: I have a friend(single mom) whose 3 yr old is on CHIP. She has constant respiratory issues. She is one of the ones who will be affected by the cuts. My friend works and is going to school to better herself etc. etc. Her budget is very very tight. She will not have the money to pay to take the kid to the primary provider which means she will take her to the ER. The kid is not going to go without absolutely necessary care but she will go to the ER which will end up costing much more. What don’t these mofo wingnuts understand here?

  25. 25.

    debbied

    March 20, 2010 at 10:32 am

    @ rob!

    Just “unfriend” those people. I know that’s very anti-social networking of me, but I have no interest in being subjected to the crappy comments and opinions of assholes masquerading as “friends.”

    You don’t have to take it!!

  26. 26.

    Leelee for Obama

    March 20, 2010 at 10:46 am

    @mai naem: It’s not that they don’t understand, they do. They have an easy out when times are financially tight to take another swipe at the “free-loaders” who DON”T take care of themselves, like REAL Americans do. It’s ideology at the expense of innocent kids.

    God, these people are so small and miserable.

  27. 27.

    Karen

    March 20, 2010 at 10:53 am

    @mai naem

    They understand, they just don’t care.

    I have a friend(single mom) whose 3 yr old is on CHIP. She has constant respiratory issues. She is one of the ones who will be affected by the cuts.

    It’s that’s motivated me enough to call my Congressman and Senator for the first time. It’s bad enough when adults have no health insurance but ten times as bad when it affects children.

  28. 28.

    rob!

    March 20, 2010 at 11:07 am

    @debbied:

    I’ve thought about it, but it doesn’t happen that much. And I think its actually sort of valuable to have a couple of acquaintances that are on “the other side”–it gives me an up close glimpse as to how these people think.

    Or, more accurately, don’t.

  29. 29.

    JCT

    March 20, 2010 at 11:11 am

    @Karen:

    Heaven forfend the wingnuts miss an opportunity to take advantage of the most helpless among us. But don’t forget they are PRO-LIFE (until birth at least, then you are SOL).

    Just horrifying.

  30. 30.

    Brian J

    March 20, 2010 at 11:14 am

    @Leelee for Obama:

    That’s what I’ve never understood. Not that the public option was truly a government takeover of health care, but if it was in there, at least they’d have some (stupid, untrue) basis for their claims. But without the public option, the idea that the government is taking over health care seems even more baseless–as in, there’s nothing to distort, because there’s nothing at all. It is, in sum, a complete and utter fabrication. And yet, people keep repeating it. Why?

  31. 31.

    Karen

    March 20, 2010 at 11:15 am

    @rob!

    That’s what scares me!

    It’s almost like zombies only they’re not eating brains and they don’t have any.

    I firmly believe that if a child were to fall down dead in front of them, they’d be kicking the body. There is no compassion in these people. NONE.

  32. 32.

    Brian J

    March 20, 2010 at 11:18 am

    @mai naem:

    I have to imagine that they just won’t get anywhere. After all, is the president, surrounded by lawyers, and a constitiutional law professor himself, really going to let a signature piece of legislation–if not the signature piece of legislation–for his presidency die because of the way it was written? I don’t think so.

  33. 33.

    rob!

    March 20, 2010 at 11:19 am

    @Karen:

    They do have an astonishing lack of empathy. Its really creepy. I mean, how does someone write the phrase “Welfare Kitties” with a straight face?

  34. 34.

    Leelee for Obama

    March 20, 2010 at 11:27 am

    @rob!: They do it right after they cut SCHIP, or refuse Medicaid to a cancer patient because they own a home. Really, you’ve got to remember who these people are. They went after a kid who was saved by SCHIP because his parents had granite counter tops, those lucky duckies. Wonder how many more folks with granite counter tops are now living on food stamps, SCHIP, Medicaid or any other helpful program.

    Could we maybe do a poll?

    These wankers are just crabbed souls, eh?

  35. 35.

    nhoj

    March 20, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Anyone in Asheville going to David Allen Coe tonight?

  36. 36.

    Doctor Science

    March 20, 2010 at 11:50 am

    I *love* the rotating subtitles.

  37. 37.

    burnspbesq

    March 20, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Obama was 25-for-32 in the first round (as was I, but that’s another story).

    ESPN should hire him as a college basketball analyst in 2017 and get rid of Gottlieb.

  38. 38.

    Liberty60

    March 20, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Speaking of peak wingnut, has anyone seen this bizarre video from the Republican Governor’s Alliance

    Complete with scary Satan-movie music in the background, missing only someone sillouetted against the sunset screaming “WOLVEREEEEEEEEENES!”

    I am believing that Obama is doing a sort of political judo move, allowing their own crazy to enfeeble them.

  39. 39.

    Roger Moore

    March 20, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    @Leelee for Obama:

    They went after a kid who was saved by SCHIP because his parents had granite counter tops Michelle Malkin incorrectly believed his parents had granite counter tops, those lucky duckies.

    Fixt.

  40. 40.

    BDeevDad

    March 20, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Who would have thunk, the Parkinson’s patient being verbally assaulted at the rally the other day was

    60-year-old Robert Lechter was first diagnosed with Parkinson’s 15 years ago. He has two Master’s Degrees and a PhD from Cornell. He taught at the University of Michigan and worked as a nuclear engineer.
    Lechter was able to have a $150,000 surgery thanks to Medicare and the Cleveland Clinic. It has greatly increased his quality of life. He attended the event in Columbus because he believes in giving back and thinks everyone should have access to affordable health insurance and quality health care

    Makes the teabaggers look like even bigger idiots and assholes.

  41. 41.

    D-Chance.

    March 20, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Noise… noise… noise… noise… signal… noise… noise… noise… noise… noise… signal… noise… noise… noise…

    it’s pretty crappy around here, Cole.

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