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You are here: Home / Politics / Reconciliation vote starts

Reconciliation vote starts

by DougJ|  March 21, 201011:21 pm| 152 Comments

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Let you know when it finishes….

Update. Luke Russert said a Republican called Bart Stupak a “baby killer” a few minutes ago on the floor.

Update. 216

Strong. TooManyJens says in the comments:

Heard on Twitter that the “baby killer” person was Rep. George Radanovich (AHOLE-CA19).

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  1. 1.

    Bootlegger

    March 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    How many nays say yea? O/U is 2.

  2. 2.

    Sly

    March 21, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Update. Luke Russert said a Republican called Bart Stupak a “baby killer” a few minutes ago on the floor.

    It was said while Stupak was speaking. Saw it live on CSPAN. The Democratic side was ready to go into full riot mode, with Steny standing at the podium telling them to calm down.

  3. 3.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    March 21, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    And here Bart thought the Redoublechins would like him – really like him! – if he just pooed all over the bill for half a year.

  4. 4.

    tripletee

    March 21, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    So now the question is, should I stop off for a quick taxpayer-funded abortion before or after I drop Granny off at the ovens? Decisions, decisions….

  5. 5.

    FairEconomist

    March 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    What kind of dimbulb Democrat would vote to uphold the pork deals and speed up the middle class taxes? Do they have any idea how bad this will be for them in future campaigns? Whatever you think of the Senate bill, this bill should be an easy pass.

  6. 6.

    dmsilev

    March 21, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Now we get to wait and see what sort of hash the Senate will make of things.

    Joy.

    -dms

  7. 7.

    Anonsters

    March 21, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    At least he’s not a honky baby-killin’ cracker.

  8. 8.

    Bootlegger

    March 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    @Sly:

    Saw it live on CSPAN.

    Is that what the ruckus was about? I keep hoping someone throws down tonight.

  9. 9.

    fraught

    March 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    This is how Russert gets airtime, with gossip and overheard shit. Did he sign off with “Go Bills.”

  10. 10.

    TooManyJens

    March 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Heard on Twitter that the “baby killer” person was Rep. George Radanovich (AHOLE-CA19).

  11. 11.

    mai naem

    March 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    WTF? They get paid $160K and it takes them f#$ing 15 minutes to votes?

  12. 12.

    DougJ

    March 21, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    @fraught:

    No, it happened.

    I don’t like him but he’s been fine tonight. Professional, fast on his feet.

    I don’t think he should have the job, don’t get me wrong.

  13. 13.

    Woodrow "asim" Jarvis Hill

    March 21, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    @Sly:

    Democratic side was ready to go into full riot mode

    And I can’t blame ’em. I hope we find out this idiot, and call ’em out for censure. This crap needs to STOP.

    More good news, we just hit the number for Reconciliation.

  14. 14.

    freelancer (itouch)

    March 21, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    217.

    The tears, they taste sweet.

  15. 15.

    Violet

    March 21, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    @tripletee:
    Well, you could do both after you go for your gay commie marriage. But don’t forget, you can’t do anything unless Obama lets you. That’s how it works now.

  16. 16.

    Tonal Crow

    March 21, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    And it…passes!

  17. 17.

    rob!

    March 21, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I have this image in my head.

  18. 18.

    SGEW

    March 21, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Done and done. Well, well, well.

    Who knows? Maybe I’ll actually be able to get insurance before I contract any major health issues. I’ve been gambling for years.

    Woo to the motherfucking hoo, y’all. Good night, and good work.

  19. 19.

    williamc

    March 21, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    Maybe when they find him, he can be first in line for the brand new death panels that the House just passed…

    /snark

  20. 20.

    r€nato

    March 21, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    So, will the teabaggers start strapping on suicide vests tomorrow?

  21. 21.

    Sentient Puddle

    March 21, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Cheers!

    And uh, I don’t know about anyone else, but for a very very brief moment, I actually felt like I was in solidarity with Stupak, as he was arguing against the motion to recommit brought up by Joe Pitts (who, as you might recall, was the cosponsor to the Stupak amendment).

    Pretty sure that won’t last the night though. I hope it doesn’t.

  22. 22.

    mai naem

    March 21, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Just tuned into Faux. Heads exploding everywhere.

  23. 23.

    themann1086

    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Anyone want to brave the FDL comment sections? Open Left is in celebration mode, and the anti-bill folks are nowhere in sight.

  24. 24.

    Camchuck

    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Does this mean we can say ‘social=ism’ around here now?

  25. 25.

    jeffreyw

    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    It’s kitteh time!

  26. 26.

    Bootlegger

    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    220, picked up 2.

  27. 27.

    AkaDad

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Nancy Pelosi: Great Speaker of the House or greatest Speaker of the House?

  28. 28.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    So. Now it’s up to the Senate. Sigh.

  29. 29.

    fourmorewars

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Your poll may be a little screwed up. I just voted (didn’t call (thought about it but a) wasn’t on board with you for awhile and b) never heard that my rep, Laura Richardson, was any worry) )…anyway, it told me I’d already voted, so I don’t know if I was recorded or not, but I most certainly hadn’t voted.

    That aside, think I’ll troll the odd rightwing blog, just to tell them a simple truth: that it’s almost perfect mathematical symmetry, when you set their hissy fit over phantom constitutional outrage against their stupefying nonchalance wrt certain fairly recent events that we shouldn’t have to spell out.

    It’s almost a beautiful thing, this perfect balance of -1 over their own sins matched against their +11 over something like today.

  30. 30.

    Midnight Marauder

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    All right, Harry Reid. Ball is in your court now (again). Just get this thing over the finish line and we might just keep those crazy teabaggers off your back come November.

  31. 31.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Man, BJ is awfully slow tonight. My guess is that traffic is off the charts.

  32. 32.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    March 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Every Republican has voted AGAINST stripping out the sweetheart deals from the bill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH dumb fucks!

  33. 33.

    Loneoak

    March 21, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Hit that gavel Nancy! NANCY SMASH!!!

  34. 34.

    Genine

    March 21, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    It passed! Yes!!!

  35. 35.

    Tonal Crow

    March 21, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    @mai naem: Aw, poor babies’ lies didn’t work this time.

  36. 36.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 21, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Well done everyone.

  37. 37.

    Mike Kay

    March 21, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Stoopid Stupak.

    This is what you get playing footsie with the wingers.

    You would have thought from watching Blanche Lincoln and Loserman and Nelson, that you don’t get brownie points playing nice with the other side, all it does is lose your base.

  38. 38.

    Tonal Crow

    March 21, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    @jeffreyw: Mrow!

  39. 39.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 21, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    @AkaDad: Fucking awesome Speaker of the House in my books.

    @jeffreyw: That’s definitely an Awwwwwww! pic if I ever saw one!

  40. 40.

    anonymous

    March 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Delicious wingnut tears, I can taste them.

  41. 41.

    robertdsc

    March 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    I’m glad. Fuck the GOP.

  42. 42.

    Violet

    March 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    What a great night! Thanks to everyone here who helped make it happen!

  43. 43.

    El Cid

    March 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    White House website says Obama to speak live ‘around 11:40 pm’.

  44. 44.

    Felonius Wench

    March 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    3 for 3, and I’m a happy, happy girl…and + 4.

    Happy to be on the journey with all of you. This place feels like home today.

  45. 45.

    Sirkowski

    March 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Conservatives and Evangelical Christians are now required to report to their local United Nations service centers to receive their micro-chip implant and code bar tattoos.

    ALL HAIL BAAL!

  46. 46.

    Svensker

    March 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Yay!

  47. 47.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    March 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    It’s over. in the House. now on to the senate and the winger watb’s over there.

    All the wanking and concern and knashing of teeth the past year here at BJ over this issue is as they say, flames of the past. Now on to the next one.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    March 21, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    @jeffreyw:
    Aww…adorable!

  49. 49.

    Shalimar

    March 21, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    If this were the Clinton years, then the story would break within a few days that Radanovich does in fact kill babies in his spare time.

  50. 50.

    Annie

    March 21, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    Just. Awesome.

  51. 51.

    tripletee

    March 21, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    @Violet:

    But don’t forget, you can’t do anything unless Obama lets you. That’s how it works now.

    I shall redouble my labors for the Glory of the State! Just please keep Emmanuel out of my shower.

    So when do the bread and toilet paper lines start? Or will we be offing enough elderly people tomorrow to avoid that for the time being?

  52. 52.

    Max

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    For those interested, Sully has started his series of love letters to Obama and It.Is.Glorious.

    Great reax.

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    @Loneoak:

    NANCY SMASH

    I may gay commie marry you for this one.

    Sorry, you don’t have a choice. It’s in the HCR bill. It’s codified.

  54. 54.

    slag

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    President in East Room shortly. Nancy tongue kiss to ensue.

  55. 55.

    Comrade Luke

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Breakdown of HCR votes by district.

    (h/t The Stranger)

  56. 56.

    Pasquinade

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Limbaugh packing up his illegal Viagra for the move to Costa Rica?

  57. 57.

    Josh

    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    The UNITED STATE from Zamayatin’s WE lives!

    ALL HAIL THE UNITED STATE!

  58. 58.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Dear Leader is about to speak. Is he going to finally declare the truth and admit we are all socialists.

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    This fucking drag on BJ now is really killing my god damn snark.

  60. 60.

    kid bitzer

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    hey dougj,

    could you do a little legislative info on what the “reconciliation” vote means, and how it differs from the earlier vote?

    also–this is fucking awesome. it’s almost like having a functional democratic party, for the first time in my adult life.

  61. 61.

    dr. bloor

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    OK, that’s that.

    Now let’s get to work on some regulatory reform, jobs bills, and fresh pics of Tunch and Lily.

  62. 62.

    Yutsano

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: The kitteh has teh awesome powers. Or Jeff needs to disclose his massive training techniques.

    I’m off in 14 minutes and I want out of here so bad.

  63. 63.

    Andre

    March 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    The GOP: Fighting for the freedom to die of poverty.

  64. 64.

    AkaDad

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    @Loneoak:

    That gavel, I’d hit it.

  65. 65.

    Polish the Guillotines

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    @r€nato:

    So, will the teabaggers start strapping on suicide vests tomorrow?

    As long as they keep it to themselves, I don’t see a problem with that.

  66. 66.

    Shinobi

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Watching Obama’s speech while running TOGC. Good night.

  67. 67.

    jeffreyw

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    asiangrrlMN:
    Hungry?

  68. 68.

    Some Guy

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Egad. Checked Fox. Sorry I did.

    Democrats will be sorry for doing this. Student loan reform is a government take over of student loans. Success is failure. Secret deals, arrogance, all this was part of an attempt to fool people, blah blah blah. Holy shit. Its not over yet, he needs to take a pause before it is signed. You can see them struggling to come up with lies to fill air time. OMG.

    Jesus they are pathetic. Fox needs a giant elephant for its logo.

    And having said all that, I love it. Give me a giant schadenfreude spoon.

    BTW, the roundtable, also known as the dipshit table, is literally talking themselves into believing that maybe this won’t pass the senate and maybe Obama will be afraid of his success.

    Man that tastes good.

  69. 69.

    fourmorewars

    March 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    theman1086

    “Anyone want to brave the FDL comment sections? Open Left is in celebration mode, and the anti-bill folks are nowhere in sight.”

    There sure are some spiteful assholery around here. If Ms. Hamsher is somehow irrecoverable (which I dunno), forget about her and how about you try to get working to reconcile with the average blog reader who is quite probably still on your side of the fucking fence?

    I was, belatedly, a convert to the strategy, but that doesn’t mean I like a whole lot of people around here at the moment. For one thing, maybe some folks could recall what was coming out of some folks’ mouths not all that many years ago.

    I’m one who’s willing to call that ‘water under the bridge.’ And in the case in question I’d venture to say there was a tad bit more water involved.

  70. 70.

    Corner Stone

    March 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    @Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle:

    BJ is awfully slow tonight

    Nothing wrong with that.

  71. 71.

    chuck

    March 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Is this really done?

    Can this be screwed up in the senate? If it is at all possible…. I still tend to think something might happen to kill it in the Senate.

    Am I being paranoid?

  72. 72.

    Violet

    March 21, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Our President is awesome! /Obot

    Love for Biden too. Can’t wait to see him do his thing in the Senate.

  73. 73.

    demo woman

    March 21, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Holy f-ck..now we have gringley announcing the retirement of nathan deal who retired and then came back to vote against health care. I’m so glad to be a citizen of GA. FYI. Nathan Deal is under ethics investigation and running for governor of ga.

  74. 74.

    slag

    March 21, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    MSNBC playing Obama speech; CSpan is not.

  75. 75.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 21, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    @Yutsano: Hi, honey! A big, juicy kiss to you on this frabulous day!

    I’m listening to our Dark-Skinned All-Powerful Islofascist Overlord right now. Sweeeeeeeeet.

  76. 76.

    Three-nineteen

    March 21, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Have they released the names of the senators who have committed to reconciliation? Because I’m going to start calling tomorrow.

  77. 77.

    Yutsano

    March 21, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    @jeffreyw: Oh I forgot to mention last night. I went out cooking for friends and ended up making the butter chicken R-Jud suggested (worthwhile make I must say, although we added in some peppers just for color and flavor) and I logged on to BJ to snag the recipe. While here I showed my friend your Flickr feed. He really liked the hawk pictures and a few of the food pics as well. Oh and TattooSydney’s Portuguese chicken recipe got declared next for the making. They both had a laugh riot reading it as well.

  78. 78.

    GeeYourHairSmellsTerrific

    March 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Wingnut tears
    So tasty
    Like a fetus

  79. 79.

    mai naem

    March 21, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    @chuck: Being that the senate is the home of Lieberprick, Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln and Mary”Dimbulb”Landrieu, you are not paranoid.

  80. 80.

    Mark S.

    March 21, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    If it was Radanovich, this is kinda interesting:

    Some proceeds from the Radanovich Winery went to fund abortion clinics in the area, causing controversy due to his Republican ties.

    Is there anybody who doesn’t kill babies in their spare time?

  81. 81.

    gbear

    March 21, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    Not only is this an incredibly historic piece of legistlation, but it passed with only one party supporting it. Think of that. Not one fucking vote from the opposition party. This is just an amazing feat. Is it unprecedented?

    I’m proud to have been a very small part of this group at BJ who supported this thing and got it done. Thank you to my congresswoman Betty McCollum and all the Dems who made this happen. Thank you Nancy and Obama. Wow.

    Thank you for this forum, Mr Cole and Co. A donation to help cover the cost of all us bandwith suckers will be forthcoming.

    (now hit ‘submit’ and hope for the best)

  82. 82.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 21, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    Pass, defeat, pass gets this thing to the Senate – and that vote is nothing like the end of it.

    This Bill cannot be defended, it has to be sold. That is the political reality, it is much easier to tear things down than defend them and defense is a much weaker stance than offense – politically. The offensive stance is to campaign on the darn thing – on the good aspects. That isn’t going to be easy to do but it will succeed more surely than trying to say, “Oh no it doesn’t …”

  83. 83.

    SGEW

    March 21, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    @General Egali Tarian Stuck:

    Now on to the next one.

    Oooo. Let’s argue over detainee policy; that’s always fun.

    No? Afghanistan, maybe? Financial regulation? Cap and trade? What will provoke the next round of the never-ending progressive-on-progressive battle between purity vs. pragmatism?

    Lookin’ forward to it.

  84. 84.

    SIA

    March 21, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Site is sooooo slow, gonna give it up. Congratulations BJ’ers!

  85. 85.

    Dannie22

    March 21, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    That’s my President!!!!!!!

  86. 86.

    Charles

    March 21, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    @Chuck68 asks:

    Am I being paranoid?

    Paranoia keeps you alive. Paranoia is good.

  87. 87.

    TenguPhule

    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    So, will the teabaggers start strapping on suicide vests flinging themselves from the tops of office buildings tomorrow?

    Fixed.

  88. 88.

    Anonsters

    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    @SGEW:

    Oooo. Let’s argue over detainee policy; that’s always fun.

    Yes, please.

    Nao.

    (Seriously, it’s past time. (Sorry, it’s just my core issue.))

  89. 89.

    Sly

    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    @themann1086:

    Anyone want to brave the FDL comment sections?

    Tone is dejected. Rather boring.

    FreeRepublic is in full WOLVERINES mode, tho. Highly entertaining.

  90. 90.

    PB

    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Is it wrong that I really want Pelosi to come on TV with that big gavel, stare into the cameras, and say, “Respect… the cock.”

    And then just walk out.

  91. 91.

    Mwangangi

    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    I’d like to thank you. All of the Balloon Juice community. From John on down through the front pagers and all of the prolific commenters like RedKitten, Stuck, Asian-grrl (and her clan), and other people that I’m too addled to state right now. I wouldn’t be anywhere else celebrating this series of moments.

    Mwangangi +8 (why yes… I am taking shots)

  92. 92.

    Some Guy

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    @GeeYourHairSmellsTerrific: Not really haiku, but evocative.

  93. 93.

    jeffreyw

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    @Yutsano:

    and a few of the food pics

    Just a few? I’m crushed:(

  94. 94.

    slag

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    @SGEW:

    Oooo. Let’s argue over detainee policy; that’s always fun.

    And search and seizure.

  95. 95.

    Martian Buddy

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    @The Grand Panjandrum:

    Every Republican has voted AGAINST stripping out the sweetheart deals from the bill. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH dumb fucks!

    The best part of those votes will be the ridiculous “Obama used his Jedi mind powers!” excuses they’ll offer when their opponents point this out on the campaign trail.

  96. 96.

    Bootlegger

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Now Obama’s rubbing it in.

    Faux News is spinning like a fairly unbalanced Mother Brain.

  97. 97.

    TenguPhule

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    BJ is awfully slow tonight

    Better a slow BJ then none at all.

  98. 98.

    Zifnab

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Go Team! Yes We Can! I gotcher Hopey Changey right here! Maziltof! Other happy eueulations! :-p

    They passed the damn bill and I couldn’t be happier. Everything else be damned, this is the best health care legislation to come out of Congress in 60 freak’n years.

    Zifnab +5

  99. 99.

    ajr22

    March 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Obama has earned the right to kick up his feet tonight and have a nice cig. I like the new angle that Obama fought through this and came out ahead. Dude is a fighter and a winner. Great day.

  100. 100.

    mai naem

    March 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    @Three-nineteen: Reid says he’s got 52 names. I figure it can’t be hard to figure out the seven. Obviously, Nelson/Lincoln/Lieberhole/Landrieu will be in there. That leaves only three to figure out. Bennett?Bill Nelson?Webb?Warner?Burris?

  101. 101.

    Mnemosyne

    March 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    I don’t have the ingredients, but somebody needs to make John Scalzi’s Schadenfreude Pie.

  102. 102.

    Anonsters

    March 21, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Faux News is spinning like a fairly unbalanced Mother Brain.

    Did anyone watch to see if Faux played the whole of Obama’s speech just now?

  103. 103.

    Josh Huaco

    March 21, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Massive Resistance fails again. Poor babies.

  104. 104.

    Zuzu's Petals

    March 21, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    @Sentient Puddle:

    Yes, he seemed to strike just the right tone of dignified disgust for the cheap tactics…that they “politicize life, not prioritize life.” Exactly right.

  105. 105.

    SIA

    March 21, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    @demo woman: Hey, is that that crazy doctor from Marietta?

    and now I really am going to bed.

  106. 106.

    ChrisB

    March 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Ha! Geraldo Rivera on Fox praising aspects of the bill and saying we’re all in this together.

    Edit: Yes, Fox showed the whole speech. Their commentary by Krauthammer et al was negative and particularly misleading about the student loan add on until Rivera came on.

  107. 107.

    TooManyJens

    March 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    @mai naem: No way Burris is a “No”. He’s very pro-HCR.

  108. 108.

    themann1086

    March 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    @fourmorewars: Fair enough; only asking cause I’ve been following dday’s coverage (which was great!) but the comment sections there were… scary. It really was like reading wingnut blogs. Just wanted to see if they were coming around, too.

  109. 109.

    mousebumples

    March 22, 2010 at 12:00 am

    @Some Guy: For anyone who isn’t aware of the song “Schadenfreude” from Avenue Q, I highly recommend it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA

  110. 110.

    burnspbesq

    March 22, 2010 at 12:00 am

    @themann1086:

    Anyone want to brave the FDL comment sections?

    Been there. About what you expect. I said in a comment on another thread it was like the comments at Inside Carolina the night they lost to Duke by 32 points.

  111. 111.

    Annie

    March 22, 2010 at 12:00 am

    @ajr22:

    I confess. I just had a cig for him…And, several glasses of wine.

  112. 112.

    Mike in NC

    March 22, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Fuck the GOP.

    Where are the usual BJ trolls? Haven’t seen a sign of them in nearly a week. Even B.O.B seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

    We feel their pain, but fuck them anyway.

  113. 113.

    tripletee

    March 22, 2010 at 12:01 am

    @fourmorewars:

    There sure are some spiteful assholery around here.

    You must be new around here. Spiteful assholery is our stock in trade.

    And really, so-called progressives who fall into the clammy embrace of Grover Norquist and starts parroting dipshit teabagging talking points deserve whatever spite comes their way. Fuck ’em. Fuck ’em with Pelosi’s giant gavel.

  114. 114.

    JadedOptimist

    March 22, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Hey, if you haven’t noticed, the tag line on the Balloon Juice header now says “Yes We Did”. Sweet.

  115. 115.

    Annie

    March 22, 2010 at 12:02 am

    @ChrisB:

    Yeah…just watching this… How long before they fire him once again…

  116. 116.

    Comrade Kevin

    March 22, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Like the new tagline, John!

  117. 117.

    ChrisB

    March 22, 2010 at 12:04 am

    @JadedOptimist: Yes. Excellent call.

  118. 118.

    JMY

    March 22, 2010 at 12:04 am

    @TenguPhule:

    Better a slow BJ then none at all.

    I see what you did there…I think, lol.

  119. 119.

    kth

    March 22, 2010 at 12:05 am

    @mai naem: Now that you mention it, it probably does suck a little to be Ben Nelson or Mary Landrieu right now: they voted for the bill, and it isn’t going to have their goodies in it (if reconciliation gets to 50, obviously).

  120. 120.

    mr. whipple

    March 22, 2010 at 12:05 am

    Me happy.

  121. 121.

    Sasha

    March 22, 2010 at 12:06 am

    @rob!:

    Indeed.

  122. 122.

    SGEW

    March 22, 2010 at 12:07 am

    Ken Layne at Wonkette wins my evening:

    “Nancy Pelosi’s Magic Hammer Gives Obama Full Dictatorship of Earth!”

    If only, Ken. If only.

    [Also, too, Jim Newell puts things into badly needed perspective: “Today We Are All People Who Missed The Breaking Bad Premiere.”]

  123. 123.

    fourmorewars

    March 22, 2010 at 12:07 am

    themann1086

    K. Tried not to be too personal there, that grammatical mixup in my first sentence is from when I changed it from directly at you to a more general criticism.

    In fairness, I actually hadn’t read any comment sections lately at fdl myself, maybe if I had I’d have found it hard to see the progressive forest for however many pumas were hanging around in the trees.

    Stopped visiting fdl quite a while ago, but that’s ’cause their format changed…the posts were so short before the ‘read more’ came, you often didn’t know what the gist was unless you clicked, which felt like you were leaving the ‘public square’ disappointingly soon, at least that’s how I felt. (Also, the excitement of Plamegate was dying down.)

  124. 124.

    Annie

    March 22, 2010 at 12:09 am

    @mr. whipple:

    me, too….:)))

  125. 125.

    DaBomb

    March 22, 2010 at 12:10 am

    @mr. whipple: My leg is tingly and my insides are warm!

  126. 126.

    GeeYourHairSmellsTerrific

    March 22, 2010 at 12:11 am

    @Some Guy:

    I know, but I didn’t want to over think it. :)

  127. 127.

    horatius

    March 22, 2010 at 12:12 am

    About damn time Mr. President!!! Now, about that Public Option thingie…………

  128. 128.

    themann1086

    March 22, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Watching the Dem presser is fun. Everyone is all smiles, they’re relaxed and relieved, joking with each other. They got it done, and they’re rightfully proud.

  129. 129.

    Uloborus

    March 22, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Alright. My understanding is that right now the only thing that can stop the basic bill is Obama refusing to sign (pffft, yeah). It was passed on its own by both houses and the parliamentarian said it had to be already signed for reconciliation to count.

    So the Senate vote is just them living up to their end of the bargain that got it passed, and adding a few delicious bennies. Is that correct? I am NOT an expert on congressional procedure.

  130. 130.

    KDP

    March 22, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Ahh, man, missed Obama’s statement. Dog wanted a walk, and I must obey the puppeh.

    Well, I’m sure I can toddle over to the White House website tomorrow and watch it.

    Congratulations to everyone who fought for this reform, and put pragmatism over idealism to do so.

  131. 131.

    horatius

    March 22, 2010 at 12:15 am

    @mai naem:

    TPM reports that Landrieu is gushing about reconciliation. She’s even released a love-letter. Does that make it 53 or do we have a brand new asshole here?

  132. 132.

    TooManyJens

    March 22, 2010 at 12:17 am

    @Uloborus: That sounds right. Henry Waxman just said that the President would sign the main bill within two days, and the reconciliation bill within a week. I’m a little surprised — I expected him to sign them both at the same sitting — but apparently that’s the plan.

  133. 133.

    kth

    March 22, 2010 at 12:18 am

    @horatius: weird, what was the point of the Louisiana Purchase (as the wingnuts call it) then?

  134. 134.

    DA

    March 22, 2010 at 12:20 am

    No “good news for conservatives” tag? Have we, at long last, reached a point where it does not always apply?

  135. 135.

    Sly

    March 22, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Video of the aforementioned “Baby Killer” shout.

  136. 136.

    Socrates

    March 22, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Corner Stone at #70:

    Excellent.

  137. 137.

    Leelee for Obama

    March 22, 2010 at 12:27 am

    @The Grand Panjandrum: Yes, that is the sweetest part of their dumbitude. I can write the campaign commercials now, can’t you? Let’s say the words together:

    Louisiana Purchase

    Cornhusker Kickback

    Gatorade

    Whatever the other one was. I’m tired and I can’t remember.

    Fallows was fabulous in his short take on this bill passing.

  138. 138.

    Yutsano

    March 22, 2010 at 12:30 am

    @jeffreyw: Well in our defense his wife is pregnant and you don’t keep a pregnant woman waiting for food very long. She was already yelling at us in the basement about when the hell dinner was gonna be done. So we truncated the picture views. He really liked the hawk/jay battles too.

  139. 139.

    robertdsc

    March 22, 2010 at 12:33 am

    We feel their pain, but fuck them anyway.

    The funniest thing is that during the goings on before Massachusetts, there was a report that said the red states would be benefitting more from the pending legislation than blue states would.

    “No” voting bastards.

  140. 140.

    cliff

    March 22, 2010 at 12:33 am

    @KDP:

    here it is:

    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/03/21/HP/R/30922/House+passes+Senate+health+care+bill+219212.aspx

  141. 141.

    Peter J

    March 22, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Republicans decry what they see as the loss of dignity in the House, and then to prove it, one of them shouts ‘Baby Killer’…

  142. 142.

    Mike G

    March 22, 2010 at 12:38 am

    there was a report that said the red states would be benefitting more from the pending legislation than blue states would.

    The redneck states have been major net beneficiaries of federal spending since FDR started dragging their asses kicking and screaming out of feudalist apartheid. Being whiny-ass welfare babies has never stopped them from bitching about ‘big government’ and ‘soshulism’ before, and won’t now. They are the state equivalent of the dumbshit screaming, “Get the government’s hands off my Medicare”.

  143. 143.

    Joseph Nobles

    March 22, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Anybody hear what chocolate rations are up to this week?

    Nobody? Oh, well. I wonder what IHOP tastes like in our new socialist paradise?

  144. 144.

    Martian Buddy

    March 22, 2010 at 12:47 am

    @Mike G: It’s the same on the county level here in PA; there was an editorial (reprinted from a Philly paper, IIRC) which ran through the numbers and showed that six counties (all blue) accounted for 80% of PA’s tax base. The red counties (which, alas, includes mine) take in more than they pay.

    Edit to add: No prizes for guessing which counties bitch the most about their high, high taxes.

  145. 145.

    Mnemosyne

    March 22, 2010 at 1:01 am

    @TooManyJens:

    Henry Waxman just said that the President would sign the main bill within two days, and the reconciliation bill within a week. I’m a little surprised—I expected him to sign them both at the same sitting—but apparently that’s the plan.

    There is apparently still some procedural question about whether Congress can pass a bill and then immediately pass a second bill that modifies the first one, so they may be planning to play it safe and separate the two signings.

  146. 146.

    mike in dc

    March 22, 2010 at 2:26 am

    Am I crazy to think the Dems should start using the Teabagger movement to help fire up the base? Along with actually passing some more bills, of course.

    “Show up and vote this November or else these crazy M-Fers will take over the country.”

  147. 147.

    AxelFoley

    March 22, 2010 at 2:44 am

    @tripletee:

    You must be new around here. Spiteful assholery is our stock in trade. And really, so-called progressives who fall into the clammy embrace of Grover Norquist and starts parroting dipshit teabagging talking points deserve whatever spite comes their way. Fuck ‘em. Fuck ‘em with Pelosi’s giant gavel.

    Well said, my friend.

  148. 148.

    sukabi

    March 22, 2010 at 3:23 am

    @Mark S.: they’re speculating over at TPM that it was Gomert of Texass that was the baby killer yeller.

  149. 149.

    morzer

    March 22, 2010 at 3:41 am

    Let’s keep a sense of proportion here, people. Yes, Bart Stupak kills babies. What matters is that Michelle Bachmann EATS them.

  150. 150.

    EconWatcher

    March 22, 2010 at 7:21 am

    In fairness, Radanovich’s wife passed away a month ago from cancer, and he recently announced his retirement from politics. The guy may just be losing it.

  151. 151.

    deminoz

    March 22, 2010 at 8:29 am

    So being an expat in Oz who made a lot of calls to reps offices…..given that i’m not actually using this health care but will be paying for it can i use my coverage to pay for the phone calls i made to get it passed?
    Bloody oath….i had people all over my client’s offices today reporting back to me in 5 minute intervals as things happened. Until……..i got interrupted in a meeting by a couple of Australians who were on my ‘watch posse’ (as they called themselves) walked into meeting ……”IT PASSED” was all they said and walked out of room. I cried……

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