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Paging Matt Taibbi

by DougJ|  April 14, 201012:02 am| 147 Comments

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Suck. On. This.

As I have said before, friends don’t let friends drive drunk — especially when we’re still in the back seat alongside an infant named Democracy.

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  1. 1.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    April 14, 2010 at 12:05 am

    Friends don’t let friends read Friedman sober.

    Fuck, I need a beer.

  2. 2.

    Ruckus

    April 14, 2010 at 12:09 am

    @Amanda in the South Bay:
    Actually that should be – Friends don’t let friends read Friedman. Period.

    And after clicking the link so do I.

  3. 3.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    April 14, 2010 at 12:12 am

    This article stands out in the mindless mental masturbation Friedman gets paid a lot of money to annoy us with.

  4. 4.

    16shellsfromathirtyaughtsix

    April 14, 2010 at 12:15 am

    I’m starting to wonder if this is all some elaborate ploy to see how far he can go before they shitcan him.

  5. 5.

    robertdsc

    April 14, 2010 at 12:15 am

    I should send Friedman a link to 4chan. Maybe then he’ll keep the jerking around to himself.

  6. 6.

    Lev

    April 14, 2010 at 12:15 am

    I can’t believe I’m in a world where Tom Friedman is a respected policy voice. It’s like only the lefty blogosphere realizes that the emperor has no clothes.

  7. 7.

    CJ

    April 14, 2010 at 12:18 am

    But the bigger objective was to help Iraqis midwife a democratic model that could inspire reform across the Arab-Muslim world and give the youth there a chance at a better future.

    This, combined with the photo portrait, make me want to kick children in the mouth.

  8. 8.

    jrg

    April 14, 2010 at 12:22 am

    “The Industrial Revolution to me is just like a story I know called “The Puppy Who Lost His Way.” The world was changing, and the puppy was getting… bigger.”

    But seriously:

    What matters in Obama’s war in Afghanistan is whether the Afghan people are allied with their own government and each other.

    We cannot achieve this in our own country. How are we going to do it in Afghanistan?

  9. 9.

    fucen tarmal

    April 14, 2010 at 12:23 am

    dude that is the kind of thing you close a message with, if you are fucking with someone in particular. like you are agitating some one. this is why crazy people think there are hidden messages from the government in the newspaper.

    wtf.

  10. 10.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Maureen Dowd is off today.

    …at least that part made sense.

  11. 11.

    Ron Beasley

    April 14, 2010 at 12:26 am

    If there is anyone I dislike more than Dick Cheney it’s probably Friedman. Cheney is not intellectually dishonest _ he may lie but you know where he stands. Cheney is wrong about everything but he’s very intelligent. Friedman on the other hand is wrong about everything and a pontificating moron. Nuff said!

  12. 12.

    Joey Giraud

    April 14, 2010 at 12:26 am

    The only people I know who respect TF are the mushy moderate liberals. True right-wingers think he’s a liberal.

    Hard to belive. Personally, I think TF is what they used to call a “hidden persuader.”

  13. 13.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 12:28 am

    In re: Friedman spew,
    Oh. My. Holy. God.

    @drainflake77: In a very real sense, Maureen Dowd is off every day, when you think about it.

  14. 14.

    handy

    April 14, 2010 at 12:29 am

    “Last throes” Cheney often has issues with the truth, too. Don’t sell short his capacity for dishonesty, intellectual or otherwise.

  15. 15.

    petorado

    April 14, 2010 at 12:29 am

    I see Tommy took another cab ride. Who else but a foreign cabbie would’ve thought of that clever “friends don’t let friends drive drunk with baby democracy in the back seat” analogy.

    In tomorrow’s Tommy column: why Obama needs to multitask on two wars like a cabbie driving and talking on his cell phone. Genius!

  16. 16.

    Comrade Kevin

    April 14, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Did Friedman get that one from a caddie in Bangalore?

  17. 17.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Uh Oh! Holy unclosed HTML tag, Batman!

  18. 18.

    Comrade Kevin

    April 14, 2010 at 12:32 am

    @Ron Beasley: You need to be boiled in oil.

  19. 19.

    mai naem

    April 14, 2010 at 12:33 am

    I bet Friedman’s a chic-ken hawk. They need to get rid of the age limit off service in the armed forces and send Friedman,Brooks,Perle, Kristol,Krauthammer,Kaus,Peretz,Lieberman,Fleischer, Senor, Rove,Cheney, Shrub,Giuliani,Clinton,Palin, McConnell, Boehner(he won’t need a tanning bed anymore),Romney,Hitchens and every damn rah rah warmonger. Let them lose their lives for their war.

  20. 20.

    PeakVT

    April 14, 2010 at 12:38 am

    But, in truth, it was really a rare exercise in the revolutionary deployment of U.S. power.

    Whiskey tango foxtrot, over.

  21. 21.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 12:38 am

    @soonergrunt: Ha! I have to admit that I’m sometimes fascinated by the ways in which we lowly commenters can break the blog.

  22. 22.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 12:39 am

    It was sold as being about W.M.D. But, in truth, it was really a rare exercise in the revolutionary deployment of U.S. power.

    Best trillion dollars we ever spent. And it’s a little troubling that our two experiments in democracy building have resulted in two suspect elections in the last six months. But for Friedman, that just means we should stay there for another decade or two.

  23. 23.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Oops. Someone broke the Internets.

  24. 24.

    handy

    April 14, 2010 at 12:40 am

    @slag: The blog isn’t broken so much as bent a bit to the side.

  25. 25.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 12:42 am

    @handy: True. We’re all just leaning forward. Into the future!

  26. 26.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    April 14, 2010 at 12:44 am

    @handy:

    Just The Moustache of Understanding tilting at windmills again.

  27. 27.

    burnspbesq

    April 14, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Let’s try an intervention.

    Italics go bye-bye?

    Now?

  28. 28.

    balconesfault

    April 14, 2010 at 12:46 am

    @Mark S.: But for Friedman, that just means we should stay there for another decade or two.

    How many Friedman units is that? My head already hurts too much to figure it out.

  29. 29.

    Nutella

    April 14, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Moved from the end of the OTHER Friedman thread:

    Check out this interesting series of articles from another scion of the ruling class, with this very nice line:

    I laugh whenever I read one of Thomas Friedman’s “Gosh Golly, Globalism!” theses

  30. 30.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 12:47 am

    @burnspbesq: Nice try.

    Also: John’s going to kill us for adding all these superfluous tags.

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    April 14, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Behold the power of lessthanslashigreaterthan.

    Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.

  32. 32.

    Comrade Kevin

    April 14, 2010 at 12:48 am

    There’s “em” tag that is not closed, from what I can tell. </em>

  33. 33.

    burnspbesq

    April 14, 2010 at 12:50 am

    @slag:

    Dammit, it was fixed for a second. Who re-broke it? I feel like Jack Bauer – no matter how many people I torture, the terrists are still one step ahead.

  34. 34.

    MikeJ

    April 14, 2010 at 12:51 am

    This is what it must have been like all the time when balloon-juice tilted to the right.

  35. 35.

    PeakVT

    April 14, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Unfortunately, adding in an extra [/i] doesn’t work.

    But how about an [/em] tag?

    ETA: Nope. It just looks fixed when the edit script causes Firefox to re-render the section.

  36. 36.

    tenkindsofgrumpy

    April 14, 2010 at 12:53 am

    I believe this gentleman is out of ideas.

  37. 37.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 12:54 am

    does this work

    eta: it sure don’t

    or did it

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Maybe?

    TAG BE GONE!

    EDIT: Nope. Dammit.

  39. 39.

    TenguPhule

    April 14, 2010 at 12:55 am

    As I have said before, friends don’t let friends drive drunk

    Surely Friedman’s friends can make an exception for him.

    Failing that, make him drink till he stops breathing.

  40. 40.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 12:55 am

    @PeakVT: That’s the thing. RonBeasley’s em tag is closed. Eventually.

    Span and div closing don’t work either. We are going to be in so much trouble when dad gets home!

  41. 41.

    Comrade Kevin

    April 14, 2010 at 12:58 am

    @slag: except that the close is in a place that makes it invalid HTML.

  42. 42.

    TenguPhule

    April 14, 2010 at 1:04 am

    I can’t believe I’m in a world where Tom Friedman is a respected policy voice.

    I try to comfort myself with the thought that in some alternate universe, Friedman was strangled to death with Malkin’s entrails and peace descended at last.

  43. 43.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:06 am

    @Comrade Kevin: True dat. But then it gets closed again in the next paragraph. Which should count for something.

  44. 44.

    PeakVT

    April 14, 2010 at 1:07 am

    @slag: The open tag in Beasley’s post is [em style=””]. Is the style part illegal or does it need to be closed explicitly?

  45. 45.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 1:08 am

    I can has close tags?
    Hmm. Guess not.

  46. 46.

    nutellaontoast

    April 14, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Hey, what a coincidence. I say that exact same thing all of the time!

  47. 47.

    Meg

    April 14, 2010 at 1:14 am

    test

    test

  48. 48.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:14 am

    @PeakVT: Interesting. Not seeing the style tag you’re seeing in Firefox for Mac. Just the standard openemclosed. This is the tag that appears to be offending: “span onclick=’yus< ". openclose brackets on either end, of course, but that doesn't matter. Nor, apparently, does the single closing em tag in the next paragraph.

    OK. Awesome. Now I broke the internets all over again.

  49. 49.

    Comrade Mary

    April 14, 2010 at 1:16 am

    in the name of Eminem, I command you to close!

  50. 50.

    mai naem

    April 14, 2010 at 1:16 am

    I would like to clip some metal banana clips to Friedman’s moustache and then hang him outside the NYTimes building using some chinese made string tied onto the clips. And ofcourse I would have him hanging for only 6 months.

  51. 51.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:18 am

    @slag: Did I do it? Did I? No. Probably not.

    Hmm…OK. Maybe I did. Can a comment stuck in moderation really be that powerful? A disturbing thought.

  52. 52.

    JGabriel

    April 14, 2010 at 1:19 am

    Why is everyone so emphatic? Can’t we all just get along?

    .

  53. 53.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 1:23 am

    I guess we should be grateful that it’s just this thread that’s all whacked and not the entire blog. That would be quite the tragic happenstance.

  54. 54.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:26 am

    @JGabriel @Yutsano: OK. Am I the only one who’s seeing things normally now? And I use the term “normally” quite loosely, of course. No more oddly than usual, I should say.

  55. 55.

    Comrade Mary

    April 14, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Well, the unclosed em tag in comment 11 has one more interesting effect: all places in the code from that point forward that used straight quotes now have the ASCII code for curly quotes. The span tag following that comment has the em tag closing right inside.

    I don’t think this is fixable from our end.

    Also: why does WordPress hate America?

  56. 56.

    Comrade Mary

    April 14, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Grr: one more time.

    Well, the unclosed em tag in comment 11 has one more interesting effect: all places in the code from that point forward that used straight quotes now have the ASCII code for curly quotes. The span tag following that comment has cleverly tried to fix things by placing the em tag closing right inside, and all hell has broken loose.

    I don’t think this is fixable from our end.

    Also: why does WordPress hate America?

  57. 57.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 1:32 am

    @slag: If you mean that the italics have gone away, no. It’s just you, and you HAVE* gone insane after all.

    *I would’ve used italics there instead of caps, but well, yeah.

  58. 58.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 1:33 am

    I love the italics, people. So flowery and genteel-like. Much better than fucking Tom Friedman. I skimmed the article, but I could not stomach reading the whole fucking thing. Bastard.

  59. 59.

    Steeplejack

    April 14, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Friedman:

    But the bigger objective was to help Iraqis midwife a democratic model [. . .].

    Hate to be a pedant, but it should be “midwive a democratic model.”

    Yes, I know that in the greater scheme of the Mustache’s incoherence this is a small nit to pick, but if he’s going to go for the pseudo-elegant tropes he should at least get them right.

    And, damn it, I take it back that I “hate to be a pedant.” What I really hate is douchebags getting paid big bucks to write incoherent drivel and not even being able to construct it correctly. It’s like listening to someone play a Stradivarius that’s out of tune. And in Friedman’s case it’s like playing “Pop Goes the Weasel” on a Stradivarius. Ugh.

    &#150 Steep + Oh fuck it I’m going to bed.

    P.S. Who the fuck italicized the whole thread?! Let me see if I can nip that for you . . .

    ETA: My fix no fixee. Thank you, Ron Beasley at #11. FY and FYWP.

    [Further] ETA: Hey, I think I did fix it! Yee-haw.

    [Even further] ETA: But then when I hit page refresh my fix gets unfixed. FYWP! Fuck everybody! Steep out.

  60. 60.

    Martin

    April 14, 2010 at 1:39 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Much better than fucking Tom Friedman.

    Ew. TMI. Or did you use the pitchfork?

  61. 61.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:39 am

    @soonergrunt: OK. This is freaky. It’s working fine for me in both Firefox and Safari. Maybe try a shift refresh or a control reload just for kicks? Am I the only one who can see my comment in moderation when viewing page source?

  62. 62.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 1:41 am

    @Steeplejack: Good luck nipping that. Do not hate being a pedant when it comes to the Villagers. They need someone to get pedantic on their collective asses.

  63. 63.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 1:43 am

    @Martin: Lord I hope so. There isn’t enough brain bleach in existence to deal with that horrific mental image.

  64. 64.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    April 14, 2010 at 1:43 am

    Help! I’m trapped in an italics factory!

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    April 14, 2010 at 1:45 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    This italic bullshit is really getting to me. Just wanted to say before I leave that I commented earlier today on the other thread just before going to work and didn’t see your question until I came back tonight. Short answer: I didn’t go to work until 4:00 p.m. Mañana.

  66. 66.

    Wile E. Quixote

    April 14, 2010 at 1:46 am

    You know, the more I read Friedman the more he sounds like BoB. One of these days he’s going to write a column about how the Obama administration’s middle eastern policy is like stumbling around a darkened warehouse while being chased by a lesbian driving a forklift and how the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is like a fight between a toothless lesbian and a shirtless Asian woman at a Chinese restaurant and the truth will finally be revealed.

  67. 67.

    Doug Kahn

    April 14, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Ngo Dinh Diem. We can’t abandon the South Vietnamese to the communist infiltrators who etc. and so on and so forth.

    Are we there yet?

  68. 68.

    Steeplejack

    April 14, 2010 at 1:48 am


    ETA: Tried some invisible HTML-fu that didn’t work. FYWP. No, seriously, WordPress, you really suck.

  69. 69.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 1:49 am

    @Wile E. Quixote: Yeah, but unless you’ve studied the seven liberal arts, you won’t know what to do with that information.

    @slag: nope. still hosed.

  70. 70.

    hamletta

    April 14, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Must be nice to be married to a shopping center heiress. Frees you up to think.

    Apparently it doesn’t free you up to reflect, because then you’d remember that Iraq was a functional society until we fucked their shit up.

    And all that thinkin’ doesn’t make you empathetic. Sure, we freed the Iraqi people from An Evil Dictator, but tell that to the (now) single mothers turning tricks in Damascus.

    The World Is Not Flat Like a Risk Board, Thomas Friedman, and you will answer to God for your evil stupidity.

  71. 71.

    Doug Kahn

    April 14, 2010 at 1:50 am

    The italics started in the Beasley comment at 11.

  72. 72.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 1:51 am

    @Steeplejack: Night, Steep man. Thanks for trying.

    @Wile E. Quixote: Hey, can I be the shirtless Asian bi woman in your scenario? As long as B.o.B. is nowhere near me.

    @Yutsano: Hi, hon! You at work?

  73. 73.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 1:51 am

    @soonergrunt: Proof that I’m not crazy?

    OK. Trying again. I know I’m going to get in trouble for this. “span onclick=’yus< "

  74. 74.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    April 14, 2010 at 1:51 am

    ¡ʎzɐɹɔ ƃuıʇʇǝƃ sı sıɥʇ

  75. 75.

    NYT

    April 14, 2010 at 1:54 am

    Friedman is a case study in revisionism . Here he is today:

    Unlike Afghanistan, the war in Iraq was, at its core, always driven more by idealism than realism. It was sold as being about W.M.D. But, in truth, it was really a rare exercise in the revolutionary deployment of U.S. power. The immediate target was to topple Saddam’s genocidal dictatorship. But the bigger objective was to help Iraqis midwife a democratic model that could inspire reform across the Arab-Muslim world and give the youth there a chance at a better future.

    But in an interview with Maxine McKew he gave in 2002, he cites WMD as the reason the US should go to war, with cheap oil as his secondary reason. When asked about democracy he says :

    TOM FRIEDMAN: I don’t think anybody really knows what the long-term impact would be on regime change in Iraq.
    The best case scenario you get an Iraqi Thomas Jefferson in there and Iraq is transformed into a democracy. Obviously that would have a huge impact on the region.
    Each one of these states – Saudi Arabia, Egypt, around Iraq – they have their own internal dynamics and they don’t fall like dominos.

    Oh yeah and here is his opinion of Karzai then:
    Imagine if Karzai, God forbid, had been shot and worse. We would have lost the lynchpin really of our whole effort to democratise Afghanistan right now.
    Something I’m uncomfortable with – this man Karzai was a wonderful guy I’ve met and interviewed – is protected by American diplomatic security.

  76. 76.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 1:54 am

    @hamletta: Yeah, no shit. I really think I need to get on the batshitcrazy gravy train. I need to make me some Friedman’s wife kind of money. I could make millions as a reformed liberal! Oh, excuse me, lie-beral!

    @Thoroughly Pizzled: How did you do that? I like it!

  77. 77.

    furioso ateo

    April 14, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Frankly, this low-key approach made a lot of sense to me because I never thought Afghanistan was that important.

    He has the blood of 100k+ Iraqis and 4k+ Americans on his moustache. All because he thought the war in Afghanistan was boring.

    For real, I ever run into him in public, he’s getting a punch in the mouth.

  78. 78.

    soonergrunt

    April 14, 2010 at 1:56 am

    @slag: Well, in the image you provided, the italics are not present from post 50 onwards.
    I don’t know as that proves anything about your sanity though.

    In all seriousness, I see all of the posts after mid way through #11 as italicised in the bodies, but not in the user name fields. Did the guy break the style sheet?

  79. 79.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 1:57 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Home, noshing on rugelach from the Jewish deli in AZ (not to brag but mine are bettah!) doing a round of laundry late night and waiting until one of our illustrious hosts fixes the thread. I think we’re gonna be stuck slanted for the rest of the night though.

    @furioso ateo: A punch in the mouth? I think you’re being too mild. I have zero doubt you’d demonstrate with alarming alacrity just what our all-volunteer force is capable of.

  80. 80.

    hamletta

    April 14, 2010 at 1:58 am

    @Wile E. Quixote: You forgot the cab driver!

    Friedman always attributes his most brilliant, yet populist and folksy(!) (see below), ideas to random cab drivers.

    (below) Populist and Folksy as defined by one T. Friedman, of course. He’s less sloppy than Brooks—cabbies in Tehran don’t know from Applebee’s, much less its abundant salad bars—but he’s full of at least as much shit, if not more.

  81. 81.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 2:01 am

    @Yutsano: Yeah, I hear you. I have to get my last load of laundry, but I haz a kitteh grooming on my lap. My eyes are starting to hurt.

    @furioso ateo: I will give you a rusty pitchfork, free of charge, if you promise you will fork Friedman with it.

  82. 82.

    The Dangerman

    April 14, 2010 at 2:03 am

    I had to read Post 69 with my head upside down…

    …hold on.

  83. 83.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 2:06 am

    @soonergrunt: I don’t think it was RonBeasley’s fault. But if you copy the offending span tag at the end of that #11 comment and paste it into your own comment with the extra openbracket before the em tag, you may be able to fix the problem for you. Your comment will end up in moderation, however.

    And you’ll notice that the italics turned off halfway through comment 48 for me. Comrade Mary’s italics were self-inflicted.

  84. 84.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:06 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I also meant to tell you: while waiting bored in the airport in Seattle, I saw a tourism ad for Taiwan. I of course immediately thought of you and smiled, especially when they showed some of the cultural dancers. I had never really seen a traditional Taiwanese outfit before, it looks similar to Japanese casual wear from the Tokugawa era. I guess that shouldn’t be too surprising considering how close Taiwan and southern Japan are. Anyway I was eating brown rice with chopsticks at the time so it seemed appropriate.

    EDIT: We is fixeth! Woot!

  85. 85.

    MikeJ

    April 14, 2010 at 2:07 am

    Yea! A grup showed up to fix it!

    We should have chanted, “Friendly angel come to me…”

  86. 86.

    Doug Kahn

    April 14, 2010 at 2:08 am

    My comment is awaiting moderation. Why? Am I moderate? I went to Communist Martyr’s High School.

  87. 87.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 2:13 am

    …to fix what?

  88. 88.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 2:15 am

    Bravo! Now I hope all my moderated comments get deleted before they break something new.

    “span onclick=’yus< " Frak!

  89. 89.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 2:15 am

    @Yutsano: Cool! I did Taiwanese dancing when I was younger. Ah, the good old days. Who the fuck broke it again?

    OK. Who is fucking with me now?

  90. 90.

    auntieeminaz

    April 14, 2010 at 2:16 am

    @Thoroughly Pizzled: How did you do that? Also, too, the italics all disappeared after I refreshed. Weird.

    Now what happened?

  91. 91.

    Anne Laurie

    April 14, 2010 at 2:18 am

    Y’all stop “fixting” for a few comments, okay? I think I’ve hand-adjusted everything back to WP-normal, if you refresh yr screens.

  92. 92.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:18 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I think someone is messing with us. The italics show up then go poof. Rawr.

    I will say it did make me want to visit Taiwan now. I suppose I could fly to Sydney then Taipei and make a big ass trip out of it. Although I want to sneak in New Zealand in there as well.

  93. 93.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 2:20 am

    @Yutsano: You should. I think you would really dig Taiwan. Just make it a month-long trip before starting your new job!

    @Anne Laurie: Thanks, Anne Laurie. You’re an angel. And, I didn’t try to fix anything!

    @slag: Just be glad it was her and not Cole. He gets really pissed when we break the blog.

  94. 94.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 2:21 am

    @Anne Laurie: Yay!

    I knew we were going to get into trouble.

  95. 95.

    hamletta

    April 14, 2010 at 2:21 am

    @Yutsano: I have a great recipe for rugelach.

    It’s a great dough that’s easy for pastry-challenged people like me, and you can stuff it with anything you take a liking to.

  96. 96.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 2:25 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I know. Expecting to be banned any minute now.

  97. 97.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:25 am

    @hamletta: I freely admit the recipe I have is not originally mine but belongs to Ina Garten. It does, however, make very easy and very FANTASTIC rugelach. I’m not above seeing another recipe and trying it out just to compare.

  98. 98.

    freelancer

    April 14, 2010 at 2:27 am

    @Yutsano: Well, Hello, Sir.

    How do you be?

  99. 99.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    April 14, 2010 at 2:27 am

    Fun with Tom and Matt:

    For anyone who might not know what this post is referring to, here’s one of the best samples:

    Remember Friedman’s take on Bush’s Iraq policy? “It’s OK to throw out your steering wheel,” he wrote, “as long as you remember you’re driving without one.” Picture that for a minute. Or how about Friedman’s analysis of America’s foreign policy outlook last May: “The first rule of holes is when you’re in one, stop digging. When you’re in three, bring a lot of shovels.” First of all, how can any single person be in three holes at once? Secondly, what the fuck is he talking about? If you’re supposed to stop digging when you’re in one hole, why should you dig more in three? How does that even begin to make sense? It’s stuff like this that makes me wonder if the editors over at the New York Times editorial page spend their afternoons dropping acid or drinking rubbing alcohol. Sending a line like that into print is the journalism equivalent of a security guard at a nuke plant waving a pair of mullahs in explosive vests through the front gate. It should never, ever happen.

    Friedman’s inept use of language is only half the fun, it’s the use Taibbi puts it to that’s the other half, like handing a great jazz musician a fragment of a melody and letting him take it from there.

  100. 100.

    slag

    April 14, 2010 at 2:32 am

    @Anne Laurie: Also, please be sure to delete that last comment I have in moderation. No good will come of it.

  101. 101.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 2:34 am

    new around here – are there any lovely parting gifts for being comment # 100?

  102. 102.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:35 am

    @freelancer: Alive and well. Enjoy the wonderful landing in Sky Harbor? Love the rental system down there too YIKES!

  103. 103.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 2:36 am

    …or for being a really slow typist?

  104. 104.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    April 14, 2010 at 2:38 am

    @drainflake77: Why, yes, it’s usually a new house, a yacht, and a lifetime supply of cat food.

    It looks your comment was actually 101 though, rats, too bad!

  105. 105.

    freelancer

    April 14, 2010 at 2:39 am

    @Yutsano:

    Yeah I left today. Now I’m safely back in the confines of the Missouri Valley, and though its roughly the same temp today, it’s WAY muggier.

    Sorry we didn’t get a chance to meet up, but I had family down there I didn’t even have a chance to call, we were that busy.

    Awesome trip. Just awesome. Exactly what I needed.

  106. 106.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 2:42 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: what use could anybody possibly have for a house and a yacht?

  107. 107.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    April 14, 2010 at 2:45 am

    @drainflake77: Sail the house to an island and plant a garden and a picket fence around the yacht. And live there happily ever after.

  108. 108.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:47 am

    @freelancer: It’s all good. I didn’t have a huge amount of unaccounted for time as it was myself, although the wedding was fantastic. I agree the weather was beyond perfect (if you do relocate down there don’t expect that all year) so it was great sitting in the sun right before I left. Glad you enjoyed yourself, and like you said, we’ll always have Paris.

    @asiangrrlMN: I could handle a month off, although being the good American I am I’d have to spend only one week in each place then move on. Plus that seems to fit my attention span well anyway. It’s either that or just not come back period.

  109. 109.

    drainflake77

    April 14, 2010 at 2:50 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: ah shoot!! darn that lucky slag!!!!

  110. 110.

    fucen tarmal

    April 14, 2010 at 2:50 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    i’m sorry but taibbi must not get around the internet much if he doesn’t know how you can be in three holes at once.

    not that i disagree with the overall rantrum, i’m just saying.

  111. 111.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 2:51 am

    @Yutsano: Yeah, if your idea of perfect temps is sweating your ass off hot. Harumph.

  112. 112.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 2:54 am

    @Yutsano: As long as you have the intertoobz and will not disappear from the face of the earth, it’s all good.

    FYWP! Why for I cannot edit my own comment?

  113. 113.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 2:57 am

    @asiangrrlMN: If I were gone for that length of time I would for certain invest in a laptop with a good wireless card. Of course unless I need one for a new job (which BTW there was some progress on that front today but I’ll come back to that later) I really don’t need one right now. Oh and no offense to burnpbesq but no iPad for me plz.

  114. 114.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    April 14, 2010 at 3:03 am

    @fucen tarmal: Oh I think Taibbi agrees that you can be in all kinds of trouble at once, just as Friedman says, he’s making fun of the other, concrete side of the metaphor. Which makes no sense whatsoever.

    It never does, with Friedman.

    Another wonderful section from that piece gets into it more broadly:

    Like George W. Bush with his Bushisms, Friedman came up with lines so hilarious you couldn’t make them up even if you were trying—and when you tried to actually picture the “illustrative” figures of speech he offered to explain himself, what you often ended up with was pure physical comedy of the Buster Keaton/Three Stooges school, with whole nations and peoples slipping and falling on the misplaced banana peels of his literary endeavors.

  115. 115.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 3:03 am

    OT (does anyone remember what this thread was originally about) – but concerning Palin’s speaking contract:

    Palin “requires that any questions she gets from the audience be pre-screened. In fact, even questions from a moderator are to be pre-screened, according to the document.” Additionally, “Any guests at private receptions must be pre-screened.”

    That’s pretty lame for a speech at a university. Real free exchange of ideas.

  116. 116.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:11 am

    @Mark S.: Well, to be fair to Palin, she has no ideas to exchange, so it wouldn’t really be fair.

  117. 117.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 3:16 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I just want her 15 minutes to end like yesterday and for her looks to finally start fading so the idiot teabaggers who have no real idea why they’re following her can move on to the next conservative shiny object. This is the direct consequence of what happens when men think with the wrong head, starting with Grandpa McCain. Good ol’ Walnuts couldn’t stop staring at her ass the whole damn race. Oh and he’s only one point ahead of that nutbag Hayworth so the Dems better be paying attention and field a good candidate because AZ might just turn into a pick-up state if JD wins the primary. BTW saw three different campaign commercials for Grandpa, no substance to them whatsoever and Cindy was nowhere to be seen in any of them.

  118. 118.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:19 am

    @Yutsano: No kidding. You know, I would even put up with her shit on FOX and such if she just promised never ever ever to run for office again. Damn Grampy McCain for foisting her upon America. And, I never saw the attraction. She has dead eyes to me. Give me Tina Fey any day over half-term governor quitter Palin.

    @bago: I can Roto-Rooter up to five holes at one time. Just ask me how. For three low low installments of $29.99 each, you, too can find multiple-hole satisfaction.

    @auntieeminaz: Yeah, no such thing. If it’s over thirty, it’s too hot.

  119. 119.

    auntieeminaz

    April 14, 2010 at 3:20 am

    @freelancer: It’s a dry heat here in the desert. Today was an absolutely perfect day.

  120. 120.

    bago

    April 14, 2010 at 3:20 am

    @fucen tarmal

    In order to work three shovel-ready holes at once you’ll have to stop by asiangrrl’s rusty toolshed.

  121. 121.

    bago

    April 14, 2010 at 3:26 am

    @bago

    You Do realize that rusty toolshed has an urban dictionary entry when you posted that, right?

    @bago

    No. No I did not.

  122. 122.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 3:27 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Yeah, no such thing. If it’s over thirty, it’s too hot.

    Heh. My friend the Communist lived in East Germany for several years before the wall fell (he defected, I’m still trying to get him to write a book about that experience) and he said he had never been so cold in his life. As soon as he could sell his house in California and move to the desert of Phoenix he was packed up and gone. I call him a lizard just because of that. You’d like where my ex was from for the cold. Can’t beat Whitehorse, Yukon Territory for chilly temps for sure. Although when summer breaks out up there the meadows and forests are indescribably beautiful. Eight months of snow though. Eight months. I’m just sayin’.

    @bago: Ew. Just. Ew.

  123. 123.

    Calouste

    April 14, 2010 at 3:28 am

    @Mark S.:

    She has to know in advance what she has to write on the palm of her hand.

  124. 124.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:35 am

    @bago: Aaaaaargh! I shouldn’t have clicked. I really shouldn’t have clicked on the link.

    @Yutsano: Eight months of snow? #Ears perk up#. Sounds right up my alley!

  125. 125.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 3:41 am

    @asiangrrlMN: :: hands brain bleach to wifey ::

    Yeah. Exactly. I may send bago my therapy bills now. Yowza.

  126. 126.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 3:44 am

    I wish I didn’t click that either.

    Soooo, in the effort to think about anything else, who does everyone like for the NBA playoffs?

  127. 127.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:45 am

    @Yutsano: Thanks. I needed that.

    @Mark S.: Eh. I have always like San Antonio, but I don’t see them making it to the Conference Finals.

    And, since this is my mood, it should be yours, too.

  128. 128.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 3:46 am

    @Mark S.: Well after the massive ass raping attempt the owner of the former Seattle Supersonics pulled, my low interest in the NBA turned into pretty much zero. So I’ll call no dog in this hunt and stick with that story. But hey yakyu is in full swing again and the Mariners aren’t sucking too horribly, so there’s always that.

    @asiangrrlMN: This is fitting my mood a bit more. I ma go Iko Iko just because right before bed, but for now gonna lose myself in a Canadian songstress:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60bNzi9dA9U

    @MikeJ: And did a damn good job too. Who knew John Fogarty could be covered so well?

  129. 129.

    ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty

    April 14, 2010 at 3:47 am

    Since this is an open thread ….

    This is really good news, and not for John McCain.

  130. 130.

    MikeJ

    April 14, 2010 at 3:47 am

    @Yutsano: And Death Cab played opening day!

    edit, now with linkee
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0i7P6kL5TU

  131. 131.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:51 am

    @Yutsano: I lurv Sarah McLachlan. Sigh.

    And, I would be happier about baseball if Ratface Pawlenty hadn’t robbed the Hennepin Taxpayers in order to provide a welfare stadium for the Twins.

  132. 132.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 3:51 am

    Bah. damn overlinkage.

  133. 133.

    ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty

    April 14, 2010 at 3:55 am

    Since this is an open thread, and to rescue it from the endless doldrums of wee hour Mass For Shut-ins:

    Don’t know if this has been pimped on these pages already, but ….

    I hope many BJers got to see the Frontline documentary on the story behind the HCR process and passage of the bill.

    A stunning and exhausting story, see it if you can.

  134. 134.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 14, 2010 at 3:57 am

    @ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty: Thanks for the link. I will watch it when I am not in such a shitty mood as I’m sure it will piss me off.

    All right, folks. I’m outie. Night one and all.

  135. 135.

    Yutsano

    April 14, 2010 at 4:04 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Since I wasn’t naive enough to think that HCR wasn’t going to pass in a form that would make a large number of folks happy, little this documentary will have i it will surprise me. However I will give it a watch when I have the opportunity, which is not now because I’m tired. Night y’all.

  136. 136.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 4:06 am

    FYWP!

    ETA: Does this blog not like Amazon links? I seriously tried like five times to post a comment, and they all disappeared. I hope they don’t all suddenly show up so I can look like an idiot for posting the same thing five times.

  137. 137.

    ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty

    April 14, 2010 at 4:11 am

    @Mark S.:

    This thing eats posts every day, and it’s not always possible to figure out why.

    Yesterday it was because it didn’t like a URL that I put into my Website field on top of the post editor. Took it out, problem went away.

    You never know, the thing is a truly broken piece of software.

  138. 138.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 4:18 am

    @ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty:

    Well, it kinda sucks cause it was a pretty long comment, which I also thought might be a problem. But mclaren writes a Russian novel every time he comments, so that’s probably not it.

  139. 139.

    ExtremismInTheDefenseOfLiberty

    April 14, 2010 at 4:21 am

    @Mark S.:

    Heh. Mclaren probably runs the piece by a content editor before he submits it.

    Anyway, I got in the habit a long time ago of making a quick save to Notepad for any post that took any work to write, before I submit it. It sounds clunky but if you post often here it is well worth the trouble.

  140. 140.

    bago

    April 14, 2010 at 4:26 am

    That was supposed to be an apology for using that phrase. After re-reading the first post it sounded kind of dirty so I checked. Oops.

    However, anyone who clicks an urbandictionary link to “Rusty Toolshed” knows what they’re getting into.

  141. 141.

    Batocchio

    April 14, 2010 at 4:30 am

    Holy fuck. What is wrong with these people? I know that Friedman, McArdle, Brooks and the rest are vain twits and ridiculously delusional about their own insight/intellect. Still, Friedman thought that line was good. He thought it would play with his crowd. And, FSM help us, he may be right. But he really didn’t realize how many other people would mock it?

    His views on Iraq in the same op-ed are really despicable, revisionist and similarly paternalistic, if expressed in less painful prose. The moustache’s stock in trade is avuncular imperialism.

  142. 142.

    sukabi

    April 14, 2010 at 4:40 am

    DougJ, you’re an asshole…. don’t do that again.

  143. 143.

    Mark S.

    April 14, 2010 at 4:56 am

    @Batocchio:

    avuncular imperialism

    I like that term.

    It would be one thing if Friedman were a systems analyst living in Buffalo and he thought this way, but this is a guy who regularly jet sets around the world and should know that the rest of the world doesn’t see America as a completely benevolent superpower that only uses its vast military for good. But Friedman’s only contact with the plebes is probably his cab rides, so he probably has no idea how non-millionaires in other countries think.

  144. 144.

    Svensker

    April 14, 2010 at 9:24 am

    @Steeplejack:

    What I really hate is douchebags getting paid big bucks to write incoherent drivel and not even being able to construct it correctly. It’s like listening to someone play a Stradivarius that’s out of tune. And in Friedman’s case it’s like playing “Pop Goes the Weasel” on a Stradivarius. Ugh

    Hit the nail on the head.

    Also, too, anyone who uses the word “jihadist” should be parachuted in to the high mountains of Afghanistan with their only supplies a knife (strapped to a thigh for sleekness) and a few granola bars. If that person makes it out alive, I’d guess they wouldn’t use that word again.

  145. 145.

    Aaron Baker

    April 14, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Wow. I mean, just Wow.

    And we all thought allegory died with Bunyan.

  146. 146.

    Spork

    April 14, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Hilarious. I pegged it as Friedman right at “friends don’t let friends drive drunk”. And to think that there was a time when his reporting was insightful (I’m talking a long time ago, well before he found himself on the NY Times op-ed page).

  147. 147.

    liberty60

    April 14, 2010 at 10:25 am

    @Yutsano:

    I just want her 15 minutes to end like yesterday and for her looks to finally start fading so the idiot teabaggers who have no real idea why they’re following her can move on to the next conservative shiny object.

    These are people who still revere Phyllis Schlafly, for God’s sake. Sorry to say, but in 40 years we will still be cursed with the gratin’ speechifyin’ of the Wasilla Grifter.

    Oh, and off-topic (since Friedman has pretty much been kicked to a bloody pulp)-
    Glenzilla has a great tweet about the Village idiocy of “anonymous sources”:

    I wonder if Marc Kaufman met his secret WH source in a garage in order to learn about Obama’s “bold and daring vision” http://is.gd/bskZM

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