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You are here: Home / Economics / Free Markets Solve Everything / Not a Laughing Matter

Not a Laughing Matter

by John Cole|  May 4, 20103:34 pm| 159 Comments

This post is in: Free Markets Solve Everything, War on Terror aka GSAVE®, Assholes

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But I’m still chuckling in an inappropriate manner:

Accused Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzed worked as a junior financial analyst in the Stamford, CT office of the Affinion Group, an international marketing firm, ABC News has learned.

Shahzad, who federal officials say has admitted his involvement in the New York City terror plot after being arrested late Monday at the JFK airport, worked at the firm from mid-2006 to 2009.

He probably should have just stayed with his job- as the last few years have shown, the best way to bring America to her knees is with a few assholes on Wall Street, not with propane bombs.

Also, I’ve noted that everyone seems to have caught Peter King’s “but still.” Here’s one response you will love:

“[Shahzad] has all the rights under the Constitution. We don’t shred the Constitution when it is popular. We do the right thing.”

That wasn’t Glenn Greenwald or some liberal pantywaist like yours truly.

It was Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is now the voice of reason on the right. We’re so screwed.

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  1. 1.

    flukebucket

    May 4, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Probably an Excel wizard.

  2. 2.

    Poopyman

    May 4, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Shorter Shahzed: “Where’s my [email protected]’ bonus!?!!”

  3. 3.

    brantl

    May 4, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Anybody know if this guy worked with CDOs and CDSs?

  4. 4.

    beltane

    May 4, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Any connection between Shahzed and Rick Santelli?

  5. 5.

    sukabi

    May 4, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    was he one of the junior analcysts that got cut loose as a token firing in the Wall Street Realignment of 2009?

    and re Glenn Beck being the “voice of reason”… it’s actually a reason to rejoice… his firing from Fox can’t be far behind.

  6. 6.

    Bulworth

    May 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Since when is Beck gettin’ all Constitutional?

  7. 7.

    Regnad Kcin

    May 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    unfortunately, affinion appears to have nothing to do with exotic financial instruments.

    just afffinity marketing spam: loyalty programs and other markitechture that clogs up your inbox.

  8. 8.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    May 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    What a minute. you mean “he admitted his involvement”. After being Mirandized! It’s true. The terrorists have won.

    edit – But I bet Obama tortured him with cookies to get that confession.

  9. 9.

    Zifnab

    May 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    It was Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is now the voice of reason on the right. We’re so screwed.

    He just fell out of character. Give him a minute and a face full of pepper spray and he’ll be right back to his usual self.

  10. 10.

    Linda Featheringill

    May 4, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    @flukebucket: Believe me, if you work with Excel too much, you will go nuts, or at least get really strange.

  11. 11.

    cat48

    May 4, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Found out this morning the Repugs talking point will be: “This should have been caught in the planning stages; not when ‘they’ actually had a car parked w/explosives” Have heard this verson from 3 R’s………Not good enough in other words. Just what type of police state do they want?

  12. 12.

    Mark S.

    May 4, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    OT, but tons of awesome. Right after the WH meeting about the financial meltdown:

    “That was surreal,” Obama said on the speakerphone from the car on the short ride back to the hotel, with several campaign aides on the call. “Guys, what I just saw in there made me realize, we have got to win. It was crazy in there. Maybe I shouldn’t be president,” he said in his familiar wry tone, only with more amazement than usual. “But he [McCain] definitely shouldn’t be.”

  13. 13.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    May 4, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    @flukebucket:

    Probably an Excel wizard.

    Is that from some sort of even geekier version of Dungeons and Dragons? On second thought, I don’t even want to know.

  14. 14.

    IndieTarheel

    May 4, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Said it in the other thread, gonna repeat it here:
    __

    Just scanning the channels and the CNN anchor (don’t know his name) says that Jack Bauer would have pegged the bad guy in 24 hours. With a straight face.
    __
    Even if you’re a “news”-reading bobblehead, when Glen Fracking Beck makes more sense than you do on any given subject, it’s time for you to get fired.
    __
    Out of a cannon.
    __
    Into the SUN.

  15. 15.

    Sir Nose'D

    May 4, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    How long until Beck needs to go to the Republican confessional and ask forgiveness of this grave sin? Will he leave the party, or will the party leave him? Are we watching a re-run or a re-make?

  16. 16.

    srv

    May 4, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    On Beck, another example of what I call an Overton Window Wormhole. The goal posts have been stretched so far the time-space Wingosphere is wrapping in on itself.

    The approach to the Wingularity will be marked by many crazy people saying seemingly sane things.

  17. 17.

    Regnad Kcin

    May 4, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Yes, I believe that’s a guild in World of Windows

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    @Mark S.:

    But he [McCain] definitely shouldn’t be.”

    I think Paulson, in his own memoir that I didn’t read, said the much same thing. McCain was frighteningly passive and unable to contribute anything at a photo op/meeting that he had called for. I don’t think it’s partisan to say that the man is a huge media image backed by a stunning mediocrity. Most Republicans who really know him, Lindsey Graham excepted, would agree if you got them on their third drink.
    (and, OT, if you’re looking for a laughing matter, Jane Hamsher is having a twitter war with Dave Weigel, Yglesias, and Adam Sewer).

  19. 19.

    frankdawg

    May 4, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Matt Bors beat you to this – here is a great cartoon about how much better a job of killing Americans Al Quiada could do if they worked for the insurance industry:
    http://comics.com/matt_bors/?DateAfter=2009-04-01&DateBefore=2010-01-01&Order=d.DateStrip+ASC&PerPage=1&x=47&y=19&Search=&Page=74

  20. 20.

    Morbo

    May 4, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    @cat48: Yes, clearly everyone buying M-80s and propane tanks needs to be scrutinized with the full power of the state.

  21. 21.

    frankdawg

    May 4, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @frankdawg:

    Sorry, bad link:

    http://comics.com/matt_bors/2009-11-16/

    this is the right one

  22. 22.

    Bnut

    May 4, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @Sir Nose’D:

    But remember, Beck isn’t a Republican. He’s the libertarian, independent “every man”.

  23. 23.

    Napoleon

    May 4, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @cat48:

    “This should have been caught in the planning stages”

    Which is so easy to do when you are dealing with what appears to be a lone wolf who used material like gas cans and propane canisters.

  24. 24.

    beltane

    May 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That twitter spat is what we call asymmetrical warfare.

  25. 25.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    May 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    some sort of even geekier version of Dungeons and Dragons

    Actually I think the answer is: “Yes, it’s called Wall Street.”

  26. 26.

    Cynicor

    May 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    As a resident of Pete King’s district, let me just say… what a dipshit.

  27. 27.

    Mark S.

    May 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I don’t remember who wrote it, but one account said by the end of the meeting even Cheney was laughing every time Gramps spoke up.

  28. 28.

    WereBear (itouch)

    May 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    @cat48: Too bad they didn’t apply this thinking, oh, around August of 2001, say.

  29. 29.

    Cynicor

    May 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    As a resident of Pete King’s district, let me just say… what a dipshit. Over and over and over and over and over again.

  30. 30.

    Jay in Oregon

    May 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    @Sir Nose’D:

    How long until Beck needs to go to the Republican confessional and ask forgiveness of this grave sin?

    And will he need to wear one or two wetsuits?

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    May 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    “Adam Sewer”

    Spell-check strikes again, or did you do that with malice aforethought?

  32. 32.

    Mike in NC

    May 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Faisal Shahzed will never get to be one of the Masters of the Universe.

  33. 33.

    someguy

    May 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    @Napoleon:

    Which is so easy to do when you are dealing with what appears to be a lone wolf who used material like gas cans and propane canisters.

    Hey. When propane cannisters are outlawed, only outlaw white suburban Republicans will own propane cannisters.

    They’ll get this Weber from me when they pry it from my cold, dead, surprisingly pale fingers.

    Crazed right wing Republicans don’t kill people, …er… well, yes, actually they do. Sorry. My bad.

  34. 34.

    Allan

    May 4, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Jane Hamsher is having a twitter war with Dave Weigel, Yglesias, and Adam Sewer

    Obligatory “fixed.”

  35. 35.

    b-psycho

    May 4, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Glenn Beck’s comment is easy to explain: he still thinks the guy is white.

  36. 36.

    ABS

    May 4, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    OT, but I think we have a new tagline:

    Christian right leader takes vacation with “rent boy”

    That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami — the callboy’s client and, as it happens, one of America’s most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera.

    Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. “I had surgery,” Rekers said, “and I can’t lift luggage. That’s why I hired him.” (Medical problems didn’t stop him from pushing the tottering baggage cart through MIA.)

    Yet Rekers wouldn’t deny he met his slender, blond escort at Rentboy.com — which features homepage images of men in bondage and grainy videos of crotch-rubbing twinks — and Lucien confirmed it.

    For decades, George Alan Rekers has been a general in the culture wars, though his work has often been behind the scenes. In 1983, he and James Dobson, America’s best-known homophobe, formed the Family Research Council, a D.C.-based, rabidly Christian, and vehemently anti-gay lobbying group that has become a standard-bearer of the nation’s extreme right wing. Its annual Values Summit is considered a litmus test for Republican presidential hopefuls, and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter have spoken there. (The Family Research Council would not comment about Rekers’s Euro-trip.)

    He has also influenced American government, serving in advisory roles with Congress, the White House, and the Department of Health and Human Services and testifying as a state’s witness in favor of Florida’s gay adoption ban. A former research fellow at Harvard University and a distinguished professor of neuropsychiatry at the University of South Carolina, Rekers has published papers and books by the hundreds, with titles like Who Am I? Lord and Growing Up Straight: What Families Should Know About Homosexuality.

    Lifting Luggage!!

    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2010-05-06/news/christian-right-leader-george-rekers-takes-vacation-with-rent-boy/1

  37. 37.

    burnspbesq

    May 4, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    @Cynicor:

    “As a resident of Pete King’s district …”

    You have some ‘splainin’ to do.

  38. 38.

    cleek

    May 4, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    @Morbo:

    in 18 months we’ll all need to show ID to buy propane the way many of us need to show ID to buy Sudafed.

    there will be a national registry of people who can’t buy propane or any other LPG. half the names on the list will be wrong.

    Big Charcoal will rubs its smudgy hands in glee.

  39. 39.

    Llelldorin

    May 4, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Holy shit. Beck pulled a “Wait, WHAT?”

    That… may well be the event horizon of the wingularity. I think it might be too late for us now.

  40. 40.

    Tsulagi

    May 4, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Has the diva on a snowmobile weighed in yet from her command post on Facebook? Guessing while she sounded the shrill siren warnings on Death Panels, given NYC just narrowly escaped obliteration last week, she’d trumpet as sweet music the creation of Citizen Panels. So really smart, real Americans like her, the Non-Mav, and King could be the deciders on who has rights and who don’t. It would be the foam finger thing to do.

  41. 41.

    Ripley

    May 4, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Roger Ailes, upon firing Beck: “I know he’s a drool-slinging sociopath with Nazi leanings, but still.”

  42. 42.

    Comrade Kevin

    May 4, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    @beltane: Ha. I just peeked at the Hamsher side of that, and boy, she’s fucking crazy.

  43. 43.

    sherifffruitfly

    May 4, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Uh John? The Constitution only applies to white folks.

    $5 says you see Beck say something to that effect within 24 hours.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    or did you do that with malice aforethought?

    Oh, shit no. I’m a big fan of Serwer

  45. 45.

    BDeevDad

    May 4, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I hate to go Godwin, but Liebermann should know better. This is a slippery slope where the first thing that happened in Germany was Jews were stripped of their German citizenship.

  46. 46.

    Paul L.

    May 4, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Still mad the Time Square bomber is not a white middle age tea party member?

    This story will make you even madder about the Hutaree’s “Christian” Militia lead by a Democrat that you so condemned and blamed the tea party for.
    Judge: Militia members can leave jail until trial

    The government “need not wait until people are killed before it arrests conspirators,” U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said. “But the defendants are also correct: Their right to engage in hate-filled, venomous speech is a right that deserves First Amendment protection.”

    “The feds are in big trouble,” said Lloyd Meyer of Chicago, a former terrorism prosecutor who won decades-long prison sentences against violent militia members in western and northern Michigan. “If they can’t persuade the judge by clear and convincing evidence that the defendants are dangerous, how can they convince 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt? Her ruling looks like the feds are prosecuting U.S. citizens for jibber-jabber.”

  47. 47.

    KBBoston

    May 4, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    @ABS: I believe that a wide stance is needed to lift luggage, no?

  48. 48.

    John Cole

    May 4, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    @Paul L.: Why would that make me mad?

  49. 49.

    jibeaux

    May 4, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    twitter spat

    Really, it’s not twat? I coulda sworn it was twat.

    But what do I know, I have tried unsuccessfully to get the phrase “twash talking” to go viral….

  50. 50.

    Cris

    May 4, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    @cat48: Just what type of police state do they want?

    The kind where white conservatives of pure heart and mind are safe, and everybody else goes to the camps. You know, like the Founding Fathers intended.

  51. 51.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    @Tsulagi: “Diva on a snowmobile”. I like that. No doubt she will have something important to add to the conversation in five, four, three, two, one….

    @jibeaux: I use twat ever since I heard Colbert say he twatted. And I love twash talking, but it’s a bit hard to say. I also say I twit instead of tweet when I do either, which isn’t often.

  52. 52.

    scav

    May 4, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    What little goldilocks some of them are. This arrest was TOO EARLY. This arrest was TOO LATE. This arrestee had TOO MANY RIGHTS. This little arrestee was ABUSED. OK, morphed into little piggies but that works too.

  53. 53.

    Zifnab

    May 4, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    @cat48: The kind where no white person, anywhere, ever has to worry about a brown person ever again.

    They want to live in a bubble. A tax-free, resource rich, beautiful, disaster-proof white-person-only little bubble.

    *sigh* But then don’t we all.

  54. 54.

    martha

    May 4, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    @cleek: Hey, charcoal’s the best way to grill anyway. Propane’s for whimps… But you need a chimney and hardwood charcoal to make it easiest.

  55. 55.

    Rosalita

    May 4, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    @cleek:

    I dunno, how well connected is the propane lobby?

  56. 56.

    jibeaux

    May 4, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Twash talk has an unfortunate Tweety (the original Tweety, the yellow bird Tweety) feel to it, I think that’s why it hasn’t really spread its wings and soared.

    I like twit. It’s like tweeting, but more British.

  57. 57.

    Paul L.

    May 4, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    @John Cole:

    Why would that make me mad?

    It undermines your narrative.

  58. 58.

    Zifnab

    May 4, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    @Paul L.:

    Still mad the Time Square bomber is not a white middle age tea party member?

    We’re just pissed that the Duke Lacross Rape Scandal remains unresolved.

    Mike Nifong’s head on a pike, god dammit!

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    @Paul L.: @John Cole:

    John, you have a narrative?

  60. 60.

    Gregory

    May 4, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    @ABS:

    For decades, George Alan Rekers has been a general in the culture wars, though his work has often been behind the scenes.

    You mean he led from the rear?

  61. 61.

    Zifnab

    May 4, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Something about cat blogging, Apple tech support, and Steelers die-hard fandom if I’m not mistaken.

  62. 62.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    @jibeaux: I know, but that’s why I find it so funny. OK, maybe that’s just me, but whatever. I need my humor where I can find it. And, yes, twit sounds British, which I enjoy. Besides, twit also means to mock, so it’s all good.

    @Omnes Omnibus: That was my immediate thought! Actually, he does. He hates it when fuck-ups fuck up and then talk about it as if they didn’t fuck up. That’s a pretty consistent narrative.

  63. 63.

    Ripley

    May 4, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    It undermines the narrative, but still.

  64. 64.

    The Moar You Know

    May 4, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    @Paul L.: I was not aware we had a narrative.

    Mr. Cole, what’s our narrative? Shit, I’ve just been posting my thoughts like some kind of ignorant asshole. I wanna be one of the cool kids.

    GIVE ME A NARRATIVE!

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    @Zifnab: That’s random babbling. Paul L. spoke of a narrative; I presumed it would involve more structure than that.

  66. 66.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    With each passing hour this story looks more and more like something out of a Joseph Heller novel.

    This poor fool is not a serious terrorist. We don’t have a serious press reporting the story to us. And around half of the important people in Washington DC are not serious about the government positions they hold.

    Okay, I meant two thirds.

    Fine. Three fourths.

  67. 67.

    scav

    May 4, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Funny that whole concept that reality, even changing reality, trumps preconceptions and narrative confuses some people, no? I’d check their mirrors for nose smudges where they try to headbutt the person on the other side.

  68. 68.

    burnspbesq

    May 4, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    @Zifnab:

    Snark FAIL. Nothing about that situation will ever be funny.

    Double fail for pulling that out now, in light of what is going on at UVa.

  69. 69.

    General Egali Tarian Stuck

    May 4, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    It undermines your narrative.

    A good way you can usually tell what wingers are up to is just listen to what they accuse others of. Works like a charm, usually. Unless spoken in tongues.

  70. 70.

    Gregory

    May 4, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    @martha:

    Propane’s for whimps

    Or people who need to feed the kids when they get home from work and would rather not wait for the coals to get going.

  71. 71.

    Violet

    May 4, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Oh, no! I didn’t get the narrative memo! Damn. So out of the loop.

  72. 72.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    May 4, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    @The Moar You Know: I thought our narrative was that people who want to increase our police state because the car failed to go off before a hot dog vendor noticed it and warned police were WATBs and were causing far more problems than terrorists. I don’t think it matters where he came from.

  73. 73.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): I can accept that.

  74. 74.

    MikeJ

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    @Gregory: You still have to wait for the soaked wood chips to start smoking. If you don’t you might as well cook in a gas oven inside.

  75. 75.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    @cleek:

    heh! :D

  76. 76.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    The narrative: I sense the next BJ lexicon entry brewing in this thread! And the next rotating header (er…you know what I mean).

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    @Violet: my meta-narrative is outside the parameter of the narrative loop!

  78. 78.

    PurpleGirl

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    OT: Today is the 40th anniversary of the National Guard shootings at Ohio’s Kent State University in which 4 students were killed and 11 wounded.

  79. 79.

    jrg

    May 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Double fail for pulling that out now, in light of what is going on at UVa.

    OK, I’ll bite. Besides Lacrosse, what the fuck do those two events have do do with each other?

    Quit being such a titty baby.

  80. 80.

    Poopyman

    May 4, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    John Cole is aware of all internet narratives.

  81. 81.

    David Hunt

    May 4, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    Probably an Excel wizard.
    Is that from some sort of even geekier version of Dungeons and Dragons? On second thought, I don’t even want to know.

    Funny you should mention that. I keep my D&D character on an Excel spreadsheet and use it during gaming. It’s makes updating for going up a level very easy.

  82. 82.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    @Poopyman:

    We are moving the Overton Window on narratives!

    Politico might want to comment on that.

  83. 83.

    The Moar You Know

    May 4, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    @burnspbesq: You are apparently unaware of how Paultardo came to this site, or you’d understand why anything related to the Duke Lacrosse rape case is, in fact, funny as hell.

    Those who do not pay attention to history are doomed to miss the joke. Or have their narrative undermined.

  84. 84.

    Violet

    May 4, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Oh, no! I didn’t get the narrative memo! Damn. So out of the [email protected]Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    My narrative can beat up your narrative!

  85. 85.

    John Cole

    May 4, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    @Paul L.: Really? “It hurts my narrative” is your response?

    You’re an extremely silly person.

  86. 86.

    Jason In the Peg

    May 4, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    All your narrative belong to us?

  87. 87.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    @jrg: It shows that people should have been playing a socially responsible sport like rugby rather than lacrosse.

  88. 88.

    jibeaux

    May 4, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Ok, I’m seeing a rotating subheadline of “I’ll undermine YOUR narrative” or something. Or was it just my mom who took things I said and reversed them to make completely nonsensical threats?

  89. 89.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    @John Cole: Paul L’s narrative is butthurt?

  90. 90.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    @John Cole:

    You’re an extremely silly person.

    That is so full of win.

  91. 91.

    Regnad Kcin

    May 4, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Speaking as a former hooker, I quite agree.

  92. 92.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    @Paul L.:

    John’s narrative consists of mocking corporate, government and media incompetence along with the vagaries of “conservative” (I use the term loosely…) buffoonery.

    Huttarre militia idiots are still perfectly valid targets for insult and caricature…not that being a valid target has stopped any of us anyway.

    The narrative of mockery, snark and merry invective will continue unabated.

  93. 93.

    Chyron HR

    May 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    “Why aren’t you saying the things Rush told me you would be saying? It hurts his your narrative!”

  94. 94.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    @Regnad Kcin: Um, I’m assuming that’s a rugby term? And I hadn’t heard of the UVA case. Damn.

  95. 95.

    bemused

    May 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    @cat48:
    They seem to expect police to be mind readers & have x-ray vision, at least since Obama became president. That makes sense only to R’s. oth, if we had an R prez & adm, it would been ‘no one could have anticipated’ whining.

  96. 96.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    @Jason In the Peg:

    All your narrative belong to us?

    Wrong, wrong, wrong!

    All your narrative are belong to Tunch.

  97. 97.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    @Regnad Kcin: Wing and flanker; I hooked a little in sevens.

  98. 98.

    scav

    May 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Every night, during the very last open thread, John could read us our bedtime narrative. We could cuddle with our rusty implements. I’ll get my blankie and night cap ready now.

  99. 99.

    Poopyman

    May 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    @Jason In the Peg:

    All your narrative are belong to us?

    Fixed.

  100. 100.

    Zifnab

    May 4, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    @burnspbesq: Dude, it’s Paul L. He posted about the Duke scandal continuously over the course of somewhere between six months and a year. Bringing that up is ALWAYS valid snark, current events be damned..

  101. 101.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    @scav: I like this idea! I will supply the rusty implements. Who’s supplying the pie?

  102. 102.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Who’s supplying the pie?

    Do you like cherry? :)

  103. 103.

    gex

    May 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    @Gregory: Silly boy, you know the rule by now, don’t you? A person’s personal tastes and preferences are the right and natural way to do things, and some other person who differs is always wrong or wimpy or something. Now let’s all make fun of the GOP for their tribalism.

  104. 104.

    Svensker

    May 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    A liberal friend just informed that this guy should have no rights because he is an enemy combatant.

    I really feel like crying.

    At least Glenn Beck gets it.

  105. 105.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    @Zifnab:

    The only thing I could ever figure is that Paul L dreams of being raped by the Duke Lacrosse team.

    Okay, not a reason to hate the guy. I’m sure he is not the only guy that ever had this fantasy.

  106. 106.

    Svensker

    May 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    @Paul L.:

    It undermines your narrative.

    Project much?

  107. 107.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    @gex:

    Now let’s all make fun of the GOP for their tribalism.

    Only if I get to photoshop Boener or McConnell onto a picture of a witchdoctor.

  108. 108.

    Violet

    May 4, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I want my narrative and I want it now!

  109. 109.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    @Svensker:

    A liberal friend just informed that this guy should have no rights because he is an enemy combatant.

    This is one of the biggest problems with the blurring of the legal boundaries with respect to criminals, POWs, et al., that the Bush Admin. did.

  110. 110.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    @AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat:

    The only thing I could ever figure is that Paul L dreams of being raped by the Duke Lacrosse team.

    It’s nice to have ambitions. Admittedly, that one is a bit extreme for my tastes…

  111. 111.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    @Svensker:

    Glen Beck is the Tammy Faye Baker of cable news.

  112. 112.

    Svensker

    May 4, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    @BDeevDad:

    You’d think a lot of folks would get that slippery slope idea, but the concept of “concepts” seems foreign to them. They operate on an ad hoc what feels good to them at the moment emotional level and the brain is engaged only to come up with justifications for the behavior. Reminds me of me dear departed FIL who was a nice enough guy…for a sociopath.

  113. 113.

    trollhattan

    May 4, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    @Cynicor:

    I can’t picture how King got and stays in office. I used to visit my grandmother in the Storm Lake area and never encountered anybody remotely like him. My perception of Iowans is they’re educated and thoughtful. Has the vile water since rotted everybody’s brain, or something?

  114. 114.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    May 4, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    @Svensker: Make this guy give up his liberal membership card, cause he doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of the term.

  115. 115.

    freelancer

    May 4, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    My narrative has a discernible, judicious, reality-based bias.
    I’m a fucking idiot.

  116. 116.

    twiffer

    May 4, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    @Morbo: while that might seem to be harmless ingredients to a 4th of july cook-out, the lack of hot dogs should have tipped off the FBI’s hardware and grocery store monitoring task force.

    also, terrorists need to watch mythbusters if they want to be at all competent. even if you can disable the safety valves, the tanks turn into rockets, not bombs.

  117. 117.

    slippy

    May 4, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    @ABS: @ABS: Yes. I’m sure his load was quite heavy.

  118. 118.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    @celticdragonchick: Yes! I love cherries. Pie, too. I love all pie.

    @trollhattan: I’m guessing it’s similar to Michele Bachmann and the weird pocket of nuttery here in MN.

  119. 119.

    Regnad Kcin

    May 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: yes, indeed

  120. 120.

    scav

    May 4, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Who’s supplying the pie?

    yeah, BoB’s gone. Well have to arrange for those another way. I’ll contribute the makings for ‘smores instead: we seem to have some BBQing enthusiasts here that can provide the flammable end of things, after a long and heated < ahem > debate (and possibly security checks).

  121. 121.

    Svensker

    May 4, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    @AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat:

    Glen Beck is the Tammy Faye Baker of cable news.

    Ooooh, wouldn’t he look fabulous with eye makeup?

  122. 122.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Yum! Almost cherry season here in North Carolina. I love making cherry pies, and I take pride in making my pie crust. :)

  123. 123.

    21cdb

    May 4, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    If it hurts your narrative, just throw in a big action sequence in the third act.

  124. 124.

    Origuy

    May 4, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Mr Gorbachev, tear down this narrative!

  125. 125.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    O/T

    You guys are not gonna believe this one…

    Christian Right Leader George Rekers and the ‘Rent Boy’

    Uh oh. Fundamentalist Christian leader George Rekers, who founded the politically active and virulently anti-gay Family Research Council with Dr. James Dobson, has been caught by a Miami newspaper on vacation with a ‘rent boy’.

  126. 126.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    @Svensker:

    If you picture Glen Beck in this wig, it all becomes clear.

  127. 127.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 4, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    @celticdragonchick: Now I’m drooling.

  128. 128.

    slippy

    May 4, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    @Paul L.: Paul, in the simplest analysis it’s called you are putting words in John’s mouth — and by extension all the mouths of all the liberals. It does make you look quite foolish.

    That’s polite. This is not:

    I don’t know how long you conservatards are going to go on trying to write scripts for both sides of the debate but I can tell you that when you shove a talking point like that out there it falls dead flat on everyone but the useless media, who crave adversarial scripts. Unlike you, I don’t get my talking points dictated to me from above; I actually read, analyze, and try to understand what the FUCK is going on before I open my stupid gob and let just any old slop fall out. So when you claim that the Pakistani-born US citizen being the bomber “undermines” a narrative, you need to get good and clear with understanding this, moron: THAT NARRATIVE EXISTS INSIDE YOUR HEAD. You are having it dictated to you, very likely, by fuckwits like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. If you want to be treated like an intelligent human being and not a robotic fucktard moron whose buttons are so easily pushed by the right-wing media that you literally have no free will, GO THE FUCK AHEAD.

    If you want to be talked to like a fucking adult, try accepting responsibility for what goes in your head, and start by not ASSUMING that you already know what your “liberal” opposites are thinking. Until then, you’re a twit and a laughable one at that. Jesus Christ, I am sick of conservatives setting goals and writing scripts for liberals. YOU HAVE LOST CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION. Are you even remotely aware of this?

  129. 129.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    @scav:

    BOB is not gone. DougJ is just working up a new persona.

    Doug has had more personalities here than I have, and that is really saying something.

  130. 130.

    Rosalita

    May 4, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    @scav:

    BOB is gone? Should we not say that out loud so as not to jinx it?

    Did you catch the propane versus charcoal comments a couple threads ago?

  131. 131.

    twiffer

    May 4, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    @martha: you speak the truth. hardwood lump charcoal is the way to go.

  132. 132.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    ;)

  133. 133.

    Comrade Dread

    May 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    You have to sign up with Soros. Every day he sends out the narrative and promises big money to post it everywhere.

    Speaking of which, where’s my damn check, George?

  134. 134.

    Nellcote

    May 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    @IndieTarheel:

    Just scanning the channels and the CNN anchor (don’t know his name) says that Jack Bauer would have pegged the bad guy in 24 hours. With a straight face.

    Even worse, the CNN guy was quoting NYPolice Chief Kelley.

  135. 135.

    Regnad Kcin

    May 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    @celticdragonchick: I don’t suppose that has any relation to a “rent party.”

  136. 136.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    @slippy:

    If you want to be talked to like a fucking adult,

    I’m not sure that anyone here has ever considered that possibility.

  137. 137.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    @Regnad Kcin:

    I have no idea…I suggested at LGF that it was nice to see a tea bagger turning the other cheek…ahem!

  138. 138.

    Comrade Dread

    May 4, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    @bemused:

    No, I’m pretty sure that narrative is that ‘if Obama bowed less and tortured and bombed more people, the terrorists would realize not to f*** with him and wouldn’t dare attack us on American soil.

    He makes us all look weak and vulnerable and therefore he’s responsible for the terrorist attacks and we should impeach him for treason.’

  139. 139.

    cleek

    May 4, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Who’s supplying the pie?

    looks like Paul L is.

  140. 140.

    AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat

    May 4, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    @Nellcote:

    Worse yet, the police chief was quoting Faisal Shahzad.

  141. 141.

    jibeaux

    May 4, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    @Gregory:

    No kidding, it’s the only way grilling is possible for me, other than maybe fourth of July. Plus, it is supposed to be better for the environment, and it has the endorsement of Hank Hill.

  142. 142.

    Poopyman

    May 4, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    @celticdragonchick:

    Alright you two, get a room. Preferably a kitchen fully stocked with pie ingredients.

    Mmmmmm, pie!

    What was this thread about, again?

  143. 143.

    Gregory

    May 4, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    @jibeaux: As long as you have the propane *and* the propane accessories.

  144. 144.

    celticdragonchick

    May 4, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    @Poopyman:

    LOL!

    I intend to celebrate finishing this semester and baking something yummy (No acetone, alkanes, strong acids or bases or buffered solutions!) sounds about right!

  145. 145.

    Nellcote

    May 4, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    @Poopyman:

    What was this thread about, again?

    Won’t someone please supply a narrative?

  146. 146.

    TooManyJens

    May 4, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    @celticdragonchick:

    You guys are not gonna believe this one…

    On the contrary, there are few things I have less trouble believing than hypocrisy among the anti-gay far right.

  147. 147.

    scav

    May 4, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat:

    BOB is not gone. DougJ is just working up a new persona.
    __
    Doug has had more personalities here than I have, and that is really saying something.

    BoB is gone. Long live BoB!

    @Rosalita: Consider the above whispered. When did the charcoal v. gas v. wood chips v. M-80s discussions stop?

  148. 148.

    Poopyman

    May 4, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @Nellcote:

    Won’t someone please supply a narrative?

    Um …. pie?

  149. 149.

    arguingwithsignposts

    May 4, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Okay, who broke rules 1 and 2 by talking about the narrative?

  150. 150.

    4jkb4ia

    May 4, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    John, did you ever hear of “The Reluctant Fundamentalist”? The character worked for a very prestigious consulting firm.

  151. 151.

    4jkb4ia

    May 4, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    I am telling you, you would think these guys could leave well enough alone once they found out the suspect was a Muslim. “Obama presided over three spectacular attacks aimed at our soil, even if two of them failed.” That is a narrative already.

  152. 152.

    4jkb4ia

    May 4, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    (I am counting Fort Hood as a spectacular attack just in case this was not obvious)

  153. 153.

    ruemara

    May 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    @Paul L.:
    The only thing that seems undermined here is your sanity.

  154. 154.

    4jkb4ia

    May 4, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Here is what the NYT put together on him. He has a CS degree, but from the University of Bridgeport, and he had debts. Ironically, he had an H-1B visa. Some of these frustrations would be the same as an ordinary person who just snapped, especially since the bomb didn’t speak to having high level training.

    So this is not Mohsin Hamad’s character. He is given a Princeton education and a life indistinguishable from any other young, glittering American.

  155. 155.

    Joseph Nobles

    May 4, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Glenn Beck, horrified at having allowed a reasonable statement to come out of his mouth, today went on a diatribe about Mother’s Day being a big business scam perpetuated by Woodrow Wilson while reading copy promoting Vermont Teddy Bears for Mother’s Day.

    Hell, yes, there’s audio.

  156. 156.

    burnspbesq

    May 4, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    You are apparently unaware of how Paultardo came to this site

    Guilty as charged. In 2006, I was still a Firebaggerpup.

  157. 157.

    burnspbesq

    May 4, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    @Zifnab:

    Ahhh, now I get it. So you’re telling me that he’s even a bigger dick than I already consider him to be?

    My apologies for going off on you.

  158. 158.

    BubbaDave

    May 4, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    @AngusJackBootedThugOfMeat: Tammy Faye is what Glenn Beck would be if he had a little more makeup and a LOT more human decency. From : http://www.metroweekly.com/feature/?ak=11

    I’m trying to educate parents and the Christian world and tell them, these are wonderful people, allow them to be in your church, love them. Don’t be so judgmental. Christians are so judgmental and as a result of that they become very cruel. When I go and stand among those gay men and women, I tell them “I am a preacher of the gospel that loves you. And I accept you just the way you are.” I cry when I say that but I mean that with all of my heart. Somebody’s got to love them and accept them. And somebody who loves God has got to love them and accept them

    Glenn Beck had a momentary flash of sanity, but he’s not fit to carry Tammy faye’s eyeliner.

  159. 159.

    Mike in NC

    May 4, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I resent all these narratives being crammed down our throats!

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