This week on Meet the Press- not Rand Paul:
At the end of a rocky week, newly chosen Senate nominee Rand Paul (R-KY) has canceled a planned interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” citing exhaustion. It’s only the third cancellation from a major guest in 62 years, the show’s Executive Producer Betsy Fischer said in an interview this afternoon.
“It is a big deal when somebody cancels an appearance,” she said.
Fischer and host David Gregory have been attempting to convince Paul’s press secretary and campaign manager since the Paul camp scrapped the interview this afternoon. They first arranged the Sunday show interview on Wednesday after he won the party nomination Tuesday night. Fischer said Paul’s press secretary said he was exhausted.
What is going to be so nauseating about this is that if a Democrat canceled, the beltway boys and girls would have a serious case of the vapors. I thought that douchebag Chip Reid and his buddies were going to faint earlier this week when Obama didn’t take any questions at the signing of the Press Freedom Act.
But Rand is a Republican, and as DougJ has noted, they love getting abused by Republicans and don’t even care to have a safe word- just a few years ago, the Bush White House was openly threatening the press to keep quiet about things, and now they nearly melt down because they don’t have internet access on Air Force One. One failure to do exactly what the stenographers want is met with schoolboy taunts of “most transparent administration ever” as they giggle and high five each other when they get a Drudge link.
So since this is a Republican giving these guys the Two girls/One cup treatment, they won’t view it as a horrible breach of etiquette and get all catty for the next 6 months. Hell no- they’ll just say this shows that Ran Paul doesn’t play by the DC Rules and is a maverick and manly because he goes his own way.
Just watch.
Albatrossity
Well, sure. It gets exhausting trying to find new things to say while you are evading answering the questions!
Cat Lady
Rachel Maddow FTMFW. She shut up and let him talk, and it exhausted him.
Comrade Luke
To echo Atrios: would have been cool if MTP had the highest vote getter from that primary on the show to replace him.
You’d think the prospect of having a Democrat win Bunning’s old seat would be newsworthy.
Wait…
Rosalita
two girls, one cup treatment?
scav
well, his mouf rand away from him and his staff don’t wan him to have rand amok on da national teevee.
Comrade Luke
@Rosalita:
Google it. I dare you.
Can we refer to the Pauls as Two Pauls, One Cup? Pretty please?
freelancer
You really don’t want to go there.
John Cole
@Rosalita: A put a safe link to a wikipedia description.
Mudge
Again, as noted by Atrios..will we see Jack Conway this Sunday? Don’t hold your breath.
fbihop
I’m sure all the hard-working, blue collar workers in Kentucky will empathize with Rand int hat doing a TV interview in two days is just too damned exhausting.
Rosalita
@Comrade Luke:
dare me huh? okay here goes!
arguingwithsignposts
I don’t know that Gregory will run away from this. This is only the third cancellation on MTP evah (along with Louis Farrakhan and Prince Bandar). I suspect there will be some serious discussion of Rand’s drop-out. I could be wrong, but David G. got his fee-fee’s hurt, and we know what happens when the press gets their fee-fee’s hurt.
I’m sure president McCain is available, however.
(Conway should get the nod).
And co-sign, Maddow FTMFW. She blew him up! Twice!
pj
Senator McCain? David Gregory, here. Are you available Sunday?
me
I wonder if Rachel is getting shit from Gregory now for asking ‘Ayn’ Rand Paul tough questions and screwing up his hot get?
arguingwithsignposts
@Rosalita:
Don’t get off the boat! NOOOAAAHHH!
Fleas correct the era
At the end of a rocky week, newly chosen Senate nominee Rand Paul (R-KY) has canceled a planned interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” …
Imagine if he had been scheduled for an interview on one of the shows where they do fact-checking.
arguingwithsignposts
@me:
Morning Joke took care of that for him.
Rosalita
@arguingwithsignposts:
life preserver please!!!
how do people come up with this shit? pun intended
Joseph Nobles
More fun at the Randpaulooza – he’s been on the Alex Jones Show in the past year and he won’t answer 9/11 Truth questions. (thanks, earlier BJ commenter whose name escapes, for that link)
YellowJournalism
@Rosalita: This Family Guy clip pretty much sums it up for me. I’ve never actually seen it, and by the descriptions and reactions, never want to.
Comrade Luke
@Rosalita:
You’re better off just reading the wikipedia entry, really.
arguingwithsignposts
@Rosalita: @freelancer tried to warn you.
Life preserver GO!
(it’s actually sort of funny to watch some of the reaction videos which don’t include the original, like the grandmother – I don’t know if they’re still on YouTube or not – the “OMFGWTF?” looks are priceless)
Cat Lady
Reality – +1
Libertarianism – 0
jl
Either maverick, or the poor man had to recover from being trapped into answering a gotcha question from the ‘looney left’.
beltane
@Joseph Nobles: The truther business sunk that teabagger candidate in Texas who was threatening Perry in the primary (Debra Medina?). It is the one conspiracy theory the Republicans really do not tolerate.
I think the Village reaction to Rand Paul will largely be gauged by whatever Mitch McConnell wants it to be. The election is not until November; there is still plenty of time for a new candidate to be found in the event Dr. Paul, Jr. needs to spend more time with his family.
Rosalita
@Comrade Luke:
and you are correct wiki was enough… not a graphic I need to see
bet Rushbo has it on DVD tho
Delia
Here’s my question: what kind of a moran names his child after his adolescent book crush? No wonder Rand Paul can’t think straight. His idiot father was probably reading him Atlas Shrugged when other children were hearing The Cat In The Hat. Ron Paul has a lot to answer for.
dmp
Maybe Sarah is his sister, You f^%$ing Pussy
arguingwithsignposts
@YellowJournalism:
Thanks for that chuckle. I had not seen that particular bit.
And I have to give JC props for the Flock of Seagulls reference in the title. Perfection.
Mike Kay
I still waiting for distinguished civil libertarian glen greenwald to state his outrage over Paul’s opposition of the Civil Right Act.
funny how glenn is so silent. please don’t tell me he’s a phoney, looking the other way because it involves ron paul’s son.
Gawd knows he’d be at DEFCON 1 if kagen opposed civil rights.
MikeJ
Isn’t “exhaustion” what they often say about celebs going to Betty Ford?
What is exhaustion a euphemism for in this case? Is Libertarian Rand Paul a druggie?
arguingwithsignposts
@Delia:
His name is Randle. The Rand shorter was apparently made by his wife, according to another comment. I almost wish his name were Steve just so this particular misperception wouldn’t persist.
gocart mozart
@beltane:
How? He would have to voluntarily step down and that’s not gonna happen.
robertdsc
Rand’s full name is Randal. He isn’t named after Ayn Rand.
MikeJ
@arguingwithsignposts: Is his wife the one who makes fishsticks?
Mike Kay
I wonder if Rachel Maddow will get suspended for this?
I mean it’s because of her that Gregory lost his guest.
Litlebritdifrnt
Hate to turn this into a Two Girls One Cup discussion but it didn’t faze me one bit. It was obviously a good fake job (either that or that girl needs some serious nutritional guidance cause poop should not look like melted chocolate ice cream). Remember that movie “8mm” where Nick Cage’s character was watching supposed “snuff” movies and suddenly notices (along with Joquin Phoenix) that the woman who is supposedly killed in all these movies is the same woman? (Okay in the case of the film, another girl was actually killed but you get my point).
Spaghetti Lee
What a loser this guy is.
Rosalita
@robertdsc:
‘Rand’ still sounds like something out of a drug store bodice ripper book tho
Splitting Image
On the plus side, since they now have a replacement for John McCain, they don’t need the original anymore do they?
I’ve said it before, but the Republicans are in the middle of 1982 headed for 1984. 2012 can’t come soon enough.
theturtlemoves
@Mike Kay: I find GG to be a sanctimonious douchebag, but bringing up your distaste for him on every freaking thread might be a sign of an unhealthy obsession…
Martin
We’ll know if this pissed anyone off if we see Conway on the shows this weekend, but I wouldn’t be surprised. I know everyone suspect the conservative love from the Sunday hosts, but more than that they like to know what the fuck their show will look like 36 hours out, and right now they don’t. That’s going to piss everyone off, and by booking Conway, they can stick to the script of asking about Paul, the Kentucky race, and what it all means – they’ll just be asking his opposition.
Honestly, I think making clear to the politicians who really runs the show is going to rule the day here.
gocart mozart
HE’S GOING GALT! HEAD FOR THE HILLS!
Mike Kay
Glibtard David Weigel is wringing his hands over how unfair Rachel was to Paul (“the difficulty Rachel Maddow gave him”) and to libertarians.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/the_first_time_rachel_maddow_i.html
mclaren
Great independent site that fact-checks Meet the Press:
http://meetthefacts.com
Now the big question: Why the hell can’t our columbia-and-princeton-educated elite Beltway journalists manage to do this?
arguingwithsignposts
@Mike Kay:
Not really. He stuck his foot in his own mouth and then kept digging his hole deeper (mixed metaphors, I know)
He showed up on at least three morning shows, did NPR, and Laura Ingraham, probably a couple others.
Shorter: It’s his own damned fault for being an idiot.
asiangrrlMN
@Rosalita: Don’t ask. I Googled it and bitterly regretted it. I’m too late, I see. You had to Google it just as I did.
gocart mozart
@theturtlemoves:
Rand is like a Jane Hamsher of the right.
Fern
@MikeJ: I still think he will melt down before the end of the campaign. I don’t think he is used to situations he can’t control.
MikeJ
@Mike Kay: You say dumb stuff all the time, but you’re getting dumber. Weigel ends with, “Cue the dramatic, and appropriate, change of focus. ”
He says nothing about Maddow being unfair and you’d have to be fucking retarded to think he did.
beltane
@Mike Kay: And Andrew Sullivan, of course, has been quoting Weigel extensively the last couple of days.
Why is it that libertarians resent being made to defend their beliefs? You’d think they’d relish the opportunity to debate and persuade.
Maybe these children need to go back to their tree fort and let the big boys and girls deal with the real issues.
arguingwithsignposts
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Didn’t the producer of 2g1c get convicted in Florida of trafficking in obscenity because that kind of stuff was his whole schtick?
And while the fascination with bodily fluids other than the obviously sexually related ones makes me want to puke, I have heard there are people into that sort of thing.
MikeJ
@mclaren: The site that says Schumer “half lied” when he said Justice Jackson wasn’t a judge, because there was a different Justice Jackson in the 19th century.
Martin
@mclaren: Lies bring more viewers.
SATSQ.
YellowJournalism
@arguingwithsignposts:
Makes you wonder if John ever had a Flock of Seagulls haircut…
Mike Kay
@theturtlemoves: not at all. I’m using this fine forum to call him out. It’s obvious he’s laying off because he likes rand paul’s dad. After all would the great barrister be tongue tied if blanche lincoln opposed civil rights.
arguingwithsignposts
@MikeJ: @beltane:
Wait, is Weigel a libertarian? I know he’s covered the tea party and right wing extensively, but is he a libertarian? He’s been on Maddow and KO a few times and sounded reasonable.
Maybe an actual decent journalist.
Cacti
Like any good Republican, Rand can’t be held responsible for his actual views and public statements.
Lev
@Mike Kay: I won’t abide criticism of Weigel in general, but sometimes I get the sense that he gets too close to some of the people he covers. I mean, how many times has he talked up Allen West, who sounds like just the most assholish teabagger imaginable.
Mike Kay
@MikeJ: hippie punching is not the answer. here, have a flower.
Litlebritdifrnt
@arguingwithsignposts:
Yeah I have heard that too, but I do not believe that the vid was legit. It may be, but as I said, Gillian McKeith would have a fucking fit if the girls in that vid presented one of those poos to her and she would immediately place them on a diet of green and leafies, nuts, legumes, fish and tofu.
James K. Polk, Esq.
Two girls one cup is a interwebs rite of passage… Don’t let anyone take that away from you…
It’s fake anyways….
R-Jud
@YellowJournalism: Doubt it. Tunch probably did, though.
kommrade reproductive vigor
Effeksdee.
MaximusNYC
This is possibly the best post title on the internets, ever.
Malron
I must be clairvoyant, I called it this morning.
Nah, not really. Glibertarians and wingnuts are so predictable we all saw it coming a mile away…
arguingwithsignposts
@Litlebritdifrnt:
LOL. I don’t think the kind of girls who would do that kind of video would know who Gillian McKeith was.
Mike Kay
for anyone who doesn’t know, Dave Weigel IS a libertarian. He worked for reason magazine for years and proudly and loudly calls himself a libertarian. I imagine he agrees with most if not all of the libertarian doctrine against government regulation of business.
Rosalita
@gocart mozart:
hey gocart, is the weather safe for me to come out tonight?
arguingwithsignposts
@James K. Polk, Esq.:
I hope you’re right about the fake. Even if fake, I didn’t make it through most of it.
JGabriel
Dave Weigel:
Mike Kay:
Huh?
I mean, I know Weigel has the occasional Glibtard Moment(r), but the post you’re referencing isn’t one of them. It’s just a quick analysis of why Paul went in with one expectation from a previous interview, and why Maddow’s change of focus from that was “appropriate”.
That’s hardly “hand-wringing”.
.
Midnight Marauder
@Litlebritdifrnt:
I hate to break it to you, but the video isn’t fake. There’s a whole cottage industry of those types of videos in Brazil, and “Two Girls, One Cup” is far from the worst.
You have no idea how deep that rabbit hole goes.
@Martin:
To be honest, I don’t even think Conway needs to go on a Sunday talk show at this point. He is eviscerating Rand Paul anywhere and everywhere that will have him. Here he is on CNN this afternoon, repeating a lot of the comments he made in his interview with HuffPo today.
Mike Kay
@arguingwithsignposts: oh, of course. But lets remember the beltway sees asking any embarrassing question of republicans to be ill mannered. I mean, dick cheney appears on these sunday shows and no one will dare ask him about his role in outing valerie plame. Can you imagine them giving Al Gore the same deference for the same crime.
Litlebritdifrnt
I have to leap in here and defend Weigel. He is good people. He has done absolutely stellar work covering both the birfers and the tea baggers. He has done so much as to join Politijab and not only used content from the gang of very intelligent lawyers over there but has attributed many of his stories to them. I do not think that there has been another blogger who has consistently shone the light on the tea bagger movement and on the birfers. He is to be given credit for that whatever his political beliefs. He is the classic example of a “boots on the ground” journalist, he actually goes to all of the meetings and rallies and reports, he is not a “sit in the office and report what other people are saying”. I respect him, even if I don’t always agree with his opinions.
Mike Kay
@JGabriel: do you think Rachel was being “difficult” wth rand paul? I don’t. I thought it was a pretty neutral interview. But weigel describes it as “the difficulty Rachel Maddow gave him”. I think weigel’s characterization is wrong and unfair to Rachel. I repeat it again, she wasn’t being “difficult”. Weigel is wrong, period.
FlipYrWhig
@Mike Kay: I don’t think “the difficulty Rachel Maddow gave him” means that Rachel Maddow was “being difficult.” Those are two slightly disparate senses of the word “difficult.” Consider the connotations of “had difficulty” vs. “acted difficult,” for instance.
gocart mozart
@Rosalita:
Why, do you wanna go out tonight and make that highway run?
You don’t have to call me lieutenant Rosie and I don’t want to be your son.
Litlebritdifrnt
@Midnight Marauder:
Actually I am sure the rabbit hole is very deep. However it doesn’t bother me. Human beings are pretty strange. Always have been. There was a time about five years ago that I clicked a link to a site from a blog (I do regret that) that people basically got off (fap fap fap) to pictures of incredible suffering, death, torture, deformities, etc., nasty stuff. I have since then accepted that there are human beings that are just lost causes.
JGabriel
Rosalita:
It wasn’t Ayn Rand’s real name either; that was Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum. One assumes she chose “Ayn Rand” because it sounds like something out of a drug store bodice ripper.
.
Mike Kay
@Midnight Marauder: I’m surprised the online left isn’t lining up behind conway, this guy can fight, something the blogosphere has always talked about.
JGabriel
Mike Kay:
That could just as easily be read neutrally, Mike. As in the “the difficulty the math problem gave him.”
I’m not sure Weigel was assigning intent to Maddow, just reaction from Paul.
.
BombIranForChrist
I think Rand is going to be just fine. He and the people who will put him in the Senate actually hate the Insider Washington Blah Blah bullshit. The only way this incident could get better for him would be if he actually punched David Gregory in the balls. In an anti-incumbent, anti-Washington election, he’s doing it right.
Mike Kay
@BombIranForChrist: some people said the same thing about Palin when she immediately melted down if front of the hot camera lights.
no doubt, screaming libeal media bias works with the base, but even kentucky has some indie voters.
maus
@BombIranForChrist:
Even though the teabaggers don’t watch MTP, the villagers care and will squawk about this for a while.
@JGabriel: It’s the kind of name a rugged narcissindividualist would have.
Midnight Marauder
@BombIranForChrist:
I don’t think there’s anything Rand Paul has done right this week. Telling the constituents of your state that “accidents sometimes happen” when discussing explosions in mines and their family members dying is not doing it right. Coming out in support of BP and saying the President of the United States is “un-American” to criticize the company is not doing it right.
Honestly, this election is going to be about much more than just being “anti-incumbent, anti-Washington.” For starters, there isn’t even a fucking incumbent in the Kentucky Senate race; Bunning is retiring. Secondly, why is Jack Conway all of a sudden some kind of Washington insider?
I am consistently shocked that anyone could observe the week Rand Paul had and say this was favorable to him in any way.
Larkspur
Maybe Rand Paul will be all right. But my guess is that he won’t. I think the Civil Rights Act will be to Paul as the baby was to Greg Stillson*.
*Veiled Dead Zone Reference
FlipYrWhig
@Mike Kay: Markos Moulitsas has been pushing Conway fairly hard. Not as hard as he pushes noted Accountability Now project Bill Halter, but the push is there.
Tonal Crow
FSM I’d love to lure Rand Paul into an interview with Terry Gross. Her amiable, mousy manner disguises journalistic teeth the size of my leg.
P.S. Yours is perhaps the best thread title I’ve seen here.
celticdragonchick
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/05/rand_paul_trying_to_bail_on_me.html
Bill Murray
@Mike Kay: well he mentioned it in one of his Wednesday posts saying
” And even Rand Paul, who some are trying to depict as a crusading civil libertarian and anti-war advocate, ran on a platform (as Scott Brown did) of opposing the closing of Guantanamo, the use of civilian trials for accused Terrorists, and the granting of visas to people from numerous Muslim countries. ”
Whether you consider this stating his outrage, he clearly doesn’t think Paul is a crusading civil libertarian, so your point is at best moot and I would say pretty much wrong.
Zuzu's Petals
Reminds me of Nicole Wallace scoffing: “Who cares if Sarah Palin talks to the press? She talks to the American people!”
grape_crush
Rand Paul won’t talk with David Gregory? That’s like having a whole roomful of Jeff Gannons…
Better stay away from that mean ‘ol Katie Couric.
Tonal Crow
@Bill Murray: Rand Paul as a civil libertarian? Only someone on mighty bad drugs would swallow that.
SectarianSofa
@arguingwithsignposts:
Texas SBOE, I imagine. It’s the only way it makes any sense.
rob!
I just donated $10 to Jack Conway. Felt good.
Corner Stone
@YellowJournalism:
It doesn’t make me wonder at all.
Corner Stone
@Rosalita:
There are some things that once seen, can not be unseen.
Mike Kay
@Bill Murray: as glen would say, you have a reading problem. I wrote why hasn’t the great glen commented and condemned rand paul for opposing civil rights. why the silence. this is the civil rights act, not some traffic ordinance. glen bills himself as a constitutional law expert and he has no comment. I have no doubt, if elena kagen or blanche lincoln melted down on rachel’s show and said they opposed the civil rights act, glen would be burning up the internets. but here, he’s silent. as MLK said, “our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” in glen’s case, his phoniness begins to be exposed the day he becomes silent about things that matter.
J.W. Hamner
Ditching an appearance on MTP will not be tolerated by The Village. I bet he capitulates… otherwise I honestly think he’s done. Kentucky or no; too chicken to go on MTP? How can that work?
WereBear
A candidate avoiding the press. That is pretty wild. Is he going to campaign from a bubble, like the Popemobile?
MBSS
can you blame him?
who wants to face the dreaded david gregory?
Avattoir
Video of Rand Paul cancelling on MTP
http://tiny.cc/xn23u
burnspbesq
@Rosalita:
I know a pretty little place in Southern California.
dmsilev
@celticdragonchick: He got dissed by Luke Russert? Sheesh, talk about hitting rock bottom.
dms
AhabTRuler
@dmsilev: Well, by Luke Russert’s dead father, but close enough.
Mr Furious
I wouldn’t put it past Gregory to promise Rand a white flag interview where he takes it totally easy on him, focuses on the hoopla rather than the actual issue at hand and then attempts to give the matter closure on Paul’s behalf.
Chuck Butcher
@Mike Kay:
You’re one of the handful of people capable of typing who can’t work out the difference between “civil libertarian” and a “Libertarian.” I’m sure you can figure out the difference between the civil libertarian ACLU and Rand Paul … well, maybe not.
Mr Furious
Oh, and as for JC’s post title being the best evah, and as good as it is, it doesn’t even win the day… “Bitchin’ Amero” does.
Chuck Butcher
Before I got distracted by “teh stupid” I was going to mention why I think Rand Paul is fun.
Gregory
I’ve said it before, but one thing I so admire about libertarians is their rugged individualism.
maus
@J.W. Hamner: The Villagers really REALLY REALLY want the teabaggers to win some more so that they can get to play with their shiny new narrative.
I bet you they give him some slack.
RSR
is there an xkcd for everything? I think so (don’t forget to hover mouse for the tickler) http://xkcd.com/717/
robertdsc
To be fair, Greenwald talks about a lot more than just the civil liberties bit. He’s opined on many other things, but on this he’s almost silent. Why is that?
Yutsano
@RSR: The beauty of that medium is that if there isn’t one yet, there will be. There will be.
Wile E. Quixote
@robertdsc:
I worked with a guy who was named “Rand” after Ayn Rand. He was pretty cool, but his brother was a Randroid tool who named his children “Nathaniel” and “Brandon” after Randroid Prime Disciple Nathaniel Branden.
Nic
Maybe he was frightened off by Gregory’s penile cleft haircut?
bob h
Hell no- they’ll just say this shows that Ran Paul doesn’t play by the DC Rules and is a maverick and manly because he goes his own way.
Works well for Sarah Palin.
I’m wondering whether Paul’s atitude towards the Iran nuke program doesn’t give Democrats an opening. How can the Republicans roast us about terrorism when their rising star says he’s cool with a nuclear arms race in the Middle East?
MCA
How much have you been salivating, just waiting to use that posting title, Cole? Well done. I think half the reason I burn such a high proportion of my interwebs time at this joint is the clever titles.