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You are here: Home / Politics / Media / A rare Kaplan victory for me

A rare Kaplan victory for me

by DougJ|  May 24, 201011:50 am| 104 Comments

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Though the answers aren’t particularly exciting:

Louisville, KY: I’m writing as a supporter of Rand Paul, whom the Post has treated unfairly. You say that his position on 40 year-old settled law is important. I say that he is the *only* candidate looking towards the future where we are forced to accept the single North American currency called “the amero” (go on YouTube and search for Vincete Fox amero if you don’t believe me).

Why aren’t we hearing more about this instead of about hypotheticals and bygones?

Perry Bacon Jr.: Hypotheticals matter; campaigns are about what you will do as much as what you have done, particularly for someone who has never held office before. I think his views on the Civil Rights act are important, in part because they might give a clue to his votes on the minimum wage and other such things.

[…..]

Lexington, KY: Rand Paul may not be the smoothest talker, he may not answer the questions the way you want him to, to quote Sarah Palin. But who else has the guts to take on the NAFTA superhighway? Who else will put us back on the gold standard where we belong? Aren’t these more important issues?

Perry Bacon Jr.: I think he is pretty good talker. I”m agree to hear him defend his views on the big issues, repealing the health care bill, raising the retirement age, etc.

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  1. 1.

    Quackosaur

    May 24, 2010 at 11:56 am

    I find it interesting that the Louisville person seems to accept the “amero” as a forced inevitability. If it’s going to happen, what can Paul do about it? After all, Obama will just force it down the American people’s throats, or something.

    That said, since his information on the inevitability of the amero seems so credible, I guess I should start buying ameros…

  2. 2.

    Mike Kay

    May 24, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I actually like how Perry Bacon stuck the shiv, “I want to hear him talk about raising the retirement age [for social security and medicare benefits].

    Yes, I want to hear more about too.

    Heh!

  3. 3.

    kid bitzer

    May 24, 2010 at 11:57 am

    you’re kind of a warped dude, dougj. extremely funny, though.

  4. 4.

    Paul in KY

    May 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Jack Conway is a pretty good politician. He’s a proud Duke grad who’s been elected to statewide office in KY. Nuff said.

  5. 5.

    Crashman

    May 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    I love when you do this, Doug.

    However, I believe this Perry Bacon Jr. fellow is actually a computer bot, like one of those dumb customer service chat bots that companies try to force people to talk to. He will not pass the Turing test; no way he is a thinking human being.

  6. 6.

    Mike Kay

    May 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    NAFTA superhighway

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8flODdDX8UQ&feature=related

    ahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

  7. 7.

    Dork

    May 24, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    “Perry Bacon Jr.” sounds like something on the Hardee’s menu.

  8. 8.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    So much awesome, so little time!

    For your next act, DougJ, may I suggest Covington or Newport, KY?

  9. 9.

    Kevin Phillips Bong

    May 24, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Bumblefuck KY hello: “Will Obama require me to let the black helicopters land in my backyard? Thanks for your response.”

  10. 10.

    JoyousMN

    May 24, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I knew twas you, Doug.

    Ole Perry really ducked your questions. Ya think he purposefully misunderstood or had NO IDEA what you were talking about?

  11. 11.

    Anya

    May 24, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    @Quackosaur: I find it more interesting that the Perry Bacon Jr. accepts these things as facts. Does this guy answer any question.

  12. 12.

    Alex K

    May 24, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Rand Paul is the only candidate willing to talk about space aliens eating our brains. Why does no one else want to cover that issue?

  13. 13.

    trollhattan

    May 24, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Comedy gold DougJ, with the special hint of believability required to make it work. We should recruit Sacha Baron Cohen to add to this effort.

    R lubrul medyur.

  14. 14.

    Keith

    May 24, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    My only criticism is that you didn’t obsessively refer to him as “Dr. Paul”

  15. 15.

    Andrew

    May 24, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    I really don’t understand the Amero fear. If Canada and Mexico decided they wanted to move to a standard currency, they’d just adopt the dollar. There’s absolutely no chance of the US changing currencies.

  16. 16.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    @JenJen:

    Sounds good. Lexington and Louisville were the only two cities I could think of.

  17. 17.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    @Keith:

    God damn, how did I not think of that? You are so right.

  18. 18.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    @Andrew:
    The Amero is the Left Behind of currency. It’s what we will spend after all our dollars have been raptured.

  19. 19.

    Chat Noir

    May 24, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    DougJ rulez.

  20. 20.

    Citizen_X

    May 24, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Well, here’s a question for the Randbots, Alex Jones fans and all other paranoids: what if the Tri-Lateral Commission, and its puppet, Obama, force us to move to an Amero…which is BACKED by GOLD??? WHAT DO WE DO THEN?

  21. 21.

    Keith G

    May 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    @Andrew:

    True, but *they* need to whip up “feary” things to motivate their target audience. And, God, are those people pig-ignorant.

  22. 22.

    El Cid

    May 24, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Credit where also due: Instead of just letting editorial page editors Hiatt and Diehl burnish the backside of Colombia’s right wing President Uribe, the Washington Post is taking note of the Colombian judiciary & journalistic investigation of Uribe’s and his administration’s long and rich and now blatantly exposed connections to death squad narco-paramilitaries for over 2 decades as a key part of his supposed ‘victories’ against leftist narco-guerrillas at the cost of rural civilians (over 3 million internally displaced refugees, second only to Darfur / Sudan) and the very legitimacy of Colombian democracy (1/3 of the Colombian Congress, all Uribe allies, are either in jail or under court indictment for collaborating with these right wing death squad narco-paramilitaries and the entire state security apparatus has been shown to be doing illegal spying on all non-Uribe allies including the Supreme Court).

    These are the organizations which continually threaten and assassinate union organizers, academics, prosecutors, journalists, and local and even international human rights organizations — more than likely responsible for this week stabbing the head of Colombia’s CODHES human rights group after right wing narco-paramilitary death squad threats for months.

    The Washington Post has actually stepped ahead of the crusading and extremely brave Colombian press in showing that Uribe’s brother helped found and run one of the major narco-paramilitary death squad groups from the Uribe ranch.

    …Uribe’s government has…been tarnished by scandals, including accusations in congressional hearings that death squads hatched plots at his ranch in the 1980s and revelations that the secret police under his control spied on political opponents and helped kill leftist activists.
    __
    Now a former police major, Juan Carlos Meneses, has alleged that Uribe’s younger brother, Santiago Uribe, led a fearsome paramilitary group in the 1990s in this northern town that killed petty thieves, guerrilla sympathizers and suspected subversives. [Note: paramilitaries and Uribe’s spokesman regularly choose any individual or group in apparent opposition as being in league with the guerillas, including journalists, teachers, and human rights workers, which of course is followed by paramilitary death threats.] In an interview with The Washington Post, Meneses said the group’s hit men trained at La Carolina, where the Uribe family ran an agro-business in the early 1990s.
    __
    The revelations threaten to renew a criminal investigation against Santiago Uribe and raise new questions about the president’s past in a region where private militias funded with drug-trafficking proceeds and supported by cattlemen wreaked havoc in the 1990s. The disclosures could prove uncomfortable to the United States, which has long seen Uribe as a trusted caretaker of American money in the fight against armed groups and the cocaine trade.

    Uribe’s office, and even his personal secretary, has been shown to have been using the state security apparatus not only to illegally spy, but to help assassinate opposition figures by providing intel to the right wing death squad narco-paramilitaries.

    Uribe’s cousin Mario is also being prosecuted for such charges of close paramilitary collaboration.

    This is the leader and administration which Hiatt and Diehl called the ‘savior of South American democracy,’ in between ranting about the horrendous evils of Hugo Chavez, who hasn’t been accused of anything nearly like that which has emerged about their neighbor Colombia’s government.

    So far Uribe, recipient of absolutely massive U.S. military and logistical aid, has practiced plausible deniability, and has claimed to be the innocent victim of a criminal conspiracy within the government against him.

    It’s worth pointing out that the state surveillance side of these revelations came entirely from a brave Colombian magazine, Semana, who aren’t rich and who have made do with simple and courageous journalistic investigation and don’t whine about the difficulties of the U.S.’ billion dollar newspapers in not being able to fund investigative journalism.

    Now that Uribe’s term is over, I guess it’ll be okay for the U.S. foreign policy establishment to begin to condemn his regime for the perhaps permanent damage he and his mafia-vs-guerrilla strategy have done to the country’s democracy.

    His vice president Santos is running for President, but the man projected to win in the 2nd round of elections is Green Party candidate Antonius Mockus, in an unprecented move from barely registering in the polls to a so-far likely victory.

  23. 23.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    @DougJ: I only bring them up because national political reporters always seem to forget that the largest population concentration in Kentucky are the Cincinnati suburbs of northern KY, not Louisville, or Lexington.

    And it’s one of the many reasons I believe this seat is beyond ripe for a Dem pick-up.

    This is probably my favorite Kaplan win of yours, too. ;-) So far!

  24. 24.

    El Cid

    May 24, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    For those who didn’t follow Mike Kay’s link, there is no NAFTA ‘superhighway’, and not much need for it, particularly given that all cross-border roads may carry Mexican trade under NAFTA, though currently with some rules on trucking.

    This is a right wing scare, like the “Amero” currency, and like the “black helicoptes” / Hillary UN/Russia occupation of the 1990s militia & shortwave right.

  25. 25.

    cintibud

    May 24, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    @Citizen_X: That is actually great. We need to horn in on every “gold standard” comment threat we can find and say – “It’s coming! Haven’t you heard of the Amero?” If enough folks repeat it then it will magically come true! *

    *folks may need to be instructed to clap louder.

  26. 26.

    tkogrumpy

    May 24, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    @Crashman: You must not have joined in any of Gwen Ifill’s internet chatfests.

  27. 27.

    BenA

    May 24, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    @Citizen_X:
    This is awesome… pure awesome.

  28. 28.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    @El Cid:

    Interesting.

  29. 29.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    @Citizen_X:

    What about an Amero backed by gold, with Reagan all the currency?

  30. 30.

    Butch

    May 24, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    I had actually never heard of an amero (would it be capitalized?) until just this morning. I’m always on the trailing edge of new developments, but am wondering about the current exchange rate.

  31. 31.

    Captain Goto

    May 24, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    When I saw that name, I couldn’t help thinking of
    this.

  32. 32.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    @JenJen:

    The Cincy airport is actually in Kentucky, right?

  33. 33.

    RareSanity

    May 24, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    DougJ, Earl of Song Lyrics in Post Titles, Duke of Classic Hip-Hop, I hereby dub thee Sir DouglassJ of Chat Trolling…

    *taps shoulders with sword*

    You have earned it…

  34. 34.

    tkogrumpy

    May 24, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    @DougJ: right.

  35. 35.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    @DougJ: Weirdly, yeah, the Cincy airport is in Covington, Kentucky. Hence the “CVG” airport code. It’s always laughably confusing to those who land here; I’ve had to explain to many an airplane seatmate that no, we’re not actually in Ohio yet. About 10 minutes north, cross the river… see that shining city? That’s the ‘Natti.

    ETA: If Cole is reading this, I bet he’s LOL’ing at my description of my hometown. ;-)

  36. 36.

    Culture of Truth

    May 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    The Amero and gold standard are much more important the irrelvant hypotheticals like civil rights! Pull your heads out of the sand, people!!!

  37. 37.

    Culture of Truth

    May 24, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    If only David Gregory had the guts to ask PaulCat about the Amero!!

  38. 38.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    @RareSanity:

    I am honored.

  39. 39.

    blahblahblah

    May 24, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Trolling, trolling, trolling, trolling…
    The Washington Post is rolling…
    Right on down that…
    waaaaaaaterfall!

  40. 40.

    El Cid

    May 24, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    @DougJ: I think it’s astounding, and have been reading the Colombian and Latin press on this for the past few years, and I’m continually shocked and not-shocked by the lack of attention to this travesty by the press in the nation which has devoted so many billions of dollars, training, and diplomatic support to this nation. Good articles pop up very infrequently in the New York Times and Washington Post, but not any where near jeremiads against this or that ‘leftist’ leader, against whom any loose suggestion of evidence of nefarious activities will be used by the editorial writers to demand a blockade, etc. The Post‘s Jackson Diehl actually lied and inserted words not present in an original document in order to fan greater charges against Chavez. Most editorials, however, did say it was a good thing that Colombia’s Supreme Court denied a referendum trying to approve a 3rd term for Uribe, who was originally limited to 1 term, though of course that referendum led itself to huge investigations over vote bribing which continue to this day. The whole administration is based on a vast criminal enterprise, but they did fight guerrillas strongly and made urban centers much more secure.

  41. 41.

    charlequin

    May 24, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    @Butch: “Euro” isn’t. Actually, I don’t think currencies are in general.

  42. 42.

    Culture of Truth

    May 24, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    PaulCat handled Gregory quite deftly, though Fluffy got some good questions in.

  43. 43.

    Zam

    May 24, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    @Butch: No one has heard about the amero it is a government secret that only those blessed with a special type of intellect can see.

    In truth it is just some crazy talk probably stemming from talks of a reserve currency formed from more than just the dollar, just like the “one world currency” shit that was going down a couple months ago.

  44. 44.

    Face

    May 24, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    OT:

    This guy thinks something very major is happening in oil spill.

    No idea if s/he’s a crank, or legit, so I apologize if this link is not credible.

  45. 45.

    MikeJ

    May 24, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    @JenJen: Do you pass the Florence, Y’all water tower between the airport and the city or is it further out?

  46. 46.

    Jager

    May 24, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    @Mike Kay:

    The NAFTA Super Highway has been operating for years, the signs say I-35 it runs from Laredo Tx to Canada, and it even connects to other major US highways, including a portion called I-29 that goes directly to fucking Winnipeg! There is another NAFTA Superhighway hidden as I-5 and that damn thing runs from Tiajuana to British Columbia, fer gawdsakes! How did Lou Dobbs miss…it! I understand that 1-95 will soon have a 90 mile bridge to connect it to CUBA!!!!!! Get Lew Rockwell on the case…NOW! Where’s Alex Jones when you need him?

  47. 47.

    Anya

    May 24, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    DougJ, part of me feels it’s not right to appropriate other people’s crazy believes.

  48. 48.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    @DougJ:

    What about an Amero backed by gold … ?

    This is what’s so perplexing about the people crying for a return to the gold standard. They all fear a standard global or even regional currency, yet they want to base all of our currencies on … a global standard.

    WTF?

    .

  49. 49.

    mistersnrub

    May 24, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Why is Rand Paul the only candidate willing to take on aliens, bioduplication and nude conspiracies? Who else will take on these pressing issues?

  50. 50.

    MikeJ

    May 24, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    @JGabriel: You’ve given me an idea for a new sign to take to the next teabagger rally. “The Gold Standard: The Best First Step to One World Government”

  51. 51.

    Martin

    May 24, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    @MikeJ: That’s outstanding. How can we spread this idea?

  52. 52.

    Linda Featheringill

    May 24, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    @JenJen:

    . . . . the largest population concentration in Kentucky are the Cincinnati suburbs of northern KY, not Louisville, or Lexington.

    Downtown Cincinnati might be liberal but everything around it is considered to be quite conservative and quite Republican.

  53. 53.

    martha

    May 24, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    @DougJ: Henderson is another–I spent my childhood there and my dad was born and grew up there. Western KY across the Ohio from Evansville Indiana.

  54. 54.

    scarshapedstar

    May 24, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    I HEARD THAT OBAMA IS GOING TO MERGE THE DOLLAR WITH KENYA’S AND CALL IT THE AMERIKENYO AND HE’S GONNA BUILD A GIANT HIGHWAY FROM HERE TO KENYA! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

    WHY ISN’T THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA TALKING ABOUT THIS?!

  55. 55.

    licensed to kill time

    May 24, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    DougJ, you wrote those questions like a true believer! I was fooled for a few seconds until (D’oh!) it hit me. I like the details of misspelling Fox’s name and slippin’ in the Palin. Kudos!

    edit: oh, and Perry Bacon Jr? most excellent name, holy shit it’s real. more coffee.

  56. 56.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    @Martin:

    That’s outstanding. How can we spread this idea?

    Just bring back The Trilateral Commission. Wasn’t manipulating gold prices one of their functions (in the wingnut myth-form)?

    .

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack

    May 24, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    @Quackosaur:

    If you haven’t realized it already, the “Louisville person” is DougJ. One of his hobbies is crashing the WaPo chats and seeing if he can “get on the air” with carefully crafted wingnutiana.

  58. 58.

    Linda Featheringill

    May 24, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    @Face:
    That link is to Monkeyfister.

    Monkeyfister is referred to occasionally by the guys on The Oil Drum. No one on TOD has denounced Monkeyfister.

    And people on both sites apparently are having suspicions that the situation may be changing. New escape route for the oil/gas, broken off BOP, or caveins along the well beneath the ocean floor.

    I haven’t checked on them for a couple of hours. Maybe I should.

  59. 59.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    @MikeJ:

    You’ve given me an idea for a new sign to take to the next teabagger rally. “The Gold Standard: The Best First Step to One World Government”

    “The Gold Standard: Because No One Ever Manipulates Gold Prices!”

    .

  60. 60.

    Captain Haddock

    May 24, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    I sold my Gyro stock short right before Greece imploded. I am going to roll those profits right into Ameros.

  61. 61.

    MikeJ

    May 24, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    @JGabriel: The Hunt Brothers want you! To return to the gold standard!

  62. 62.

    b-psycho

    May 24, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    @JGabriel: The idea is that since you can’t just make more gold it’s more stable. They seem to completely ignore the humongous cliff existing currency would have to fall from to make gold even remotely make sense though.

    More of a tie-in of currency to labor productivity would be nice. Or just SOME sort of alternative to the current whatever-wall-street-wants method.

  63. 63.

    lou

    May 24, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    @DougJ: For future reference, those are the two cities least likely to contain the nuts, just like Austin in Texas or Raleigh in NC. Try Frankfort, Bardstown, Bowling Green, Eizabethtown, Campbellsville, Middletown, or my personal faves, one of the towns named after the Frenchies back when Kentuckians actually admired the French, like Versailles, La Grange or Paris.

    I, of course, am listing the towns where my relatives live who would actually spout that amero or NAFTA superhighway crap.

  64. 64.

    MikeJ

    May 24, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    @lou: he was talking to a WaPostie. There’s no chance that anyone working for them would know anything about KY and less chance they would ever research it. If he had said anything other than Louisville and Lexington they would have assumed they were fake.

  65. 65.

    DougJ

    May 24, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    @lou:

    Thanks. I do like to try for realism.

  66. 66.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Excellent, DougJ. You have the patois down right, and you don’t go overboard with the sarcasm. Nicely done!

  67. 67.

    Fern

    May 24, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    @Jager: Hey – watch what you say about Winnipeg! Some of us live there!

  68. 68.

    El Cid

    May 24, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    @scarshapedstar: Technically it would the Amerikenyan Shilldollar, since the Kenyan currency is the shilling.

    Though really we need to merge the dollar, the Mexican peso, the Kenyan shilling, the Indonesian rupiah, and probably the Euro as well. Just to get the whole known soshullistical caliphate up and going.

  69. 69.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    @MikeJ: The “Florence, Y’all” tower is south of the airport, so if you’re traveling to Cincinnati from there, you won’t see it. Keep driving north way past the city on I-75 and you’ll see the Sweet Buttery Jesus though. ;-)

    @Linda Featheringill: Well aware of that, but just to dig a little deeper, Hamilton County has been trending liberal for years and doesn’t just include downtown Cincinnati, but also the close-in and affluent suburbs, including the one I live in. “Everything around downtown Cincinnati is quite conservative and quite Republican” just isn’t an accurate statement. Hamilton County went for Obama over McCain in the 2008 General Election after back-to-back sweeps by Chimpy in 2000 and 2004. Also, it was the largest Ohio county to go for Obama during the 2008 Primaries, and that’s really saying something. Now, heading out to the rural suburbs, of course you hit a strong GOP pocket, but you’ll have that in almost every major city in America. The northern Kentucky suburbs regularly vote Democratic in state-wide elections as well, and I’m sticking to my guns that if anyone in the state of Kentucky is going to reject Rand Paul, it’s going to be those folks. The southern Cincinnati suburbs are the swing part of Kentucky.

  70. 70.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    May 24, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Devoted WaPo chat watchers chime in here.

    As it me or have the clueless hacks like Bacon Bits Jr started to totally generify their responses of late? They either duck the questions entirely, give a pat conventional wisdom answer, or answer with a rhetorical question.

    No longer do we see the gaffs and utter stupidity that would leak forth from the likes of Romano, Kornblut, Bacon Bits, etc.

    Methinks it’s cuz they know the blogosphere will be all over em and never know which questions posed to them are from people like Doug looking to trip them up or are “regular” questions.

    It’s made the chats very, very boring.

  71. 71.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    @b-psycho:

    The idea is that since you can’t just make more gold it’s more stable.

    But the point is that it’s still ridiculous for people decrying global standards to campaign for a global standard.

    .

  72. 72.

    The Populist

    May 24, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Wow….just wow. The only defense his rubes can come up with involve myths such as the superhighway and the “Amero” which are paranoid wet dreams.

  73. 73.

    licensed to kill time

    May 24, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    @comrade scott’s agenda of rage:

    Romano, Kornblut and Bacon Bits Jr sound the the makings of an awesome salad. Throw some words in there for dressing, and you’re done.

  74. 74.

    Dr. Squid

    May 24, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    @Jager:

    I-15 also connects down in San Diego and goes all the way up to Alberta. Don’t exactly see the nutty Utards be all up in arms about that.

  75. 75.

    Paul in KY

    May 24, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Northern KY is generally a Repub stronghold (of the Grayson variety). Be interesting to see how much they like Dr. Paul.

    To me, Mr. Conway is going to have to take the populous parts of Eastern KY (hammering Paul on his anti-miner positions) and then win Central KY handily & also Louisville (will need a big turnout in the West end).

    If he can go even-steven with Paul up in Northern KY, that will be good (Bunning whipped Baseler & Mongiardo something fierce up in Northern KY).

  76. 76.

    licensed to kill time

    May 24, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    @licensed to kill time:

    Just to start it off I threw in a free ‘the’ and left out the ‘like’.

    Duh. Fat finger salad is so delicious.

  77. 77.

    Jules

    May 24, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Someone needs to ask Paul why a woman’s womb is not private property.

  78. 78.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    @Paul in KY: Paul, what do you think, any chance Grayson might make an independent run at the November election with hush-hush national GOP support? Because if you want to pick off the GOP faithful and split the vote, Northern KY is where you do it.

    And don’t you think Conway is a superior candidate to Mongiardo? I do. If anyone can pick off some votes or even depress Northern KY turnout in November, I think it’s Conway.

  79. 79.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    @JenJen:

    Paul, what do you think, any chance Grayson might make an independent run at the November election with hush-hush national GOP support?

    Can’t speak for Paul, but it seems unlikely. Grayson, with McConnell, has already come out in support of Rand Paul.

    .

  80. 80.

    Legalize

    May 24, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    @JenJen:
    I don’t know. NKy is pretty damn Republican. Just not necessarily Rand Paul Republican. I do agree that Paul’s success in Ky will have more to do with his swaying NKy Republican voters than voters in Louisville or any other part of the Commonwealth. Louisville and Lexington will probably go for Conway, and the nutter parts of the state will go strongly in Paul’s direction. We’ll see if NKy follows the southern Ohio trend away from the bat-shit loony GOP. It’ll be interesting to see what role the president has in this fight. Kentucky isn’t Obama country by any stretch of the imagination.

  81. 81.

    Jager

    May 24, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    @Fern:

    Your socialism, drip, drip, dripping into North Dakota and Minnesota from the so-shul-ist capitol of Manitoba is soiling our con-stit-tu-shun, also…

    One of my best friends is a commie from Transcona and played for the “frenchie” Jr team the St. Boniface Bruins, if he wasn’t such a good shit I wouldn’t tolerate him, eh?

  82. 82.

    b-psycho

    May 24, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    @JGabriel: It is, I agree.

  83. 83.

    Jager

    May 24, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    @Dr. Squid:

    See, there is another Nafta Highway that Dobbs missed, no wonder CNN let him go…he’ll make a helluva president don’t you think?

  84. 84.

    Quackosaur

    May 24, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    That’s what I get for just reading the block quote.

    /facepalm

  85. 85.

    liberal

    May 24, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    @El Cid:

    …from the Uribe ranch.

    They’re rent-collecting scum. That’s all you need to know.

  86. 86.

    Paul in KY

    May 24, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    @JenJen: I don’t think there’s any chance Grayson will go as an Independent in Fall. he’s still Sec of State, has a job to do & will want to make some other runs (as a Repub) in future.

    You hope that Dr. Paul is such an anethema to the Yacht-basin GOP folks in KY that they abstain on that race.

    Mr. Conway seems to be a superior candidate. I basically voted for him, because I liked his positions better. LtGov Mongiardo is a little too conservative for me. Have met the guy though, nice dude.

    I think when you get them both up on stage (in a debate), you’ll see Mr. Conway as the better candidate/person (for those watching). I predict it will be sorta like the difference between Sen. Obama & Sen. McLame back in the last pres. race.

  87. 87.

    Carol Johnson

    May 24, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:
    The city proper is blue, and some of the suburbs are bluing as well. It’s the further suburbs that are still red.

    The big reason Kentucky has the Cincinnati airport is because when the replacement for Lunken Airport (too small for jetliners) was proposed in Blue Ash, Blue Ash fought tooth and nail to prevent it. I think they lost out on a lot of development up there and a lot of tax money that goes to Kentucky could have gone to Blue Ash and Cincinnati if the airport had been built. I look at Kenwood and wonder if things would have worked better if there was the additional airport traffic going down i-71, Right now the replacement for the old buildings at Kenwood is being stalled due to the economy. Probably would have been better off being an airport instead.

  88. 88.

    Ash Can

    May 24, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    @Paul in KY: I’m seriously looking forward to those debates. My money’s on Paul doing a Sarah Palin, blowing off the questions altogether and filibustering with memorized talking points that have little or nothing to do with the topics at hand.

  89. 89.

    MTiffany

    May 24, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    The Amero, gold standard, and the NAFTA superhighway? Wow, talk about hitting the loony-tunes G-spots. But they left out ‘black helicopters,’ ‘livestock mutilation,’ ‘the Illuminati,’ and ‘the secret global Zionist banking conspiracy.’ Did I forget anything?

  90. 90.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    @Legalize: I really should’ve made that more clear earlier; I certainly didn’t intend to suggest that NKY is “Obama Country” or even trending at all the way southwestern Ohio is (although Covington really does get hipper by the day and I’m contemplating a move there). But, like you said, it seems to me to be the ripest area of the state for picking off general election voters who would have chosen just about any Republican but Rand Paul. I can see plenty of regular GOP voters in NKY who might just skip that choice on the ballot altogether.

    @Paul in KY: Yacht-Basin? Oh, that is awesome. May I steal it?

  91. 91.

    Paul in KY

    May 24, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    @JenJen: You have given my ego a mild stroke :-), however I cannot lie (as other Juicers might know), I first heard Pat Buchanan refer to a wing of the GOP as ‘the folks down at the yacht basin’.

    Yes, I steal my lines from Pat Buchanan, among others. LOL.

  92. 92.

    maus

    May 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    But who else has the guts to take on the NAFTA superhighway

    How is informing the people of its existence “taking it on”?

  93. 93.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Used the socialist word. Content modified and reposted. Don’t release from moderation.

    .

  94. 94.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    @maus:

    How is informing the people of its existence “taking it on”?

    Because publicizing its plan and goals is the first step to destroying the liberal conspiracy agenda!

    .

  95. 95.

    JGabriel

    May 24, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    MTiffany:

    But they left out ‘black helicopters,’ ‘livestock mutilation,’ ‘the Illuminati,’ and ‘the secret global Zionist banking conspiracy.’ Did I forget anything?

    That Obama is a Kenyan sociaIist in league with anarchist terrorist William Ayers to destroy America?

    .

  96. 96.

    Alan in SF

    May 24, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Oddly enough — and who would have predicted? — the “evidence” the Post commenter says proves his case about the “amero” proves the exact opposite.

  97. 97.

    Joel

    May 24, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    That’s some pretty good Sasha Baron Cohen-style questioneering.

    For a good idea of what I’m talking about.

  98. 98.

    Steve Finlay

    May 24, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    The amero — yeah, OF COURSE all of us up here in Canada want to replace our version of the dollar with a currency which would start its life carrying a (multi)national debt the size of Jupiter.

    If we have any sense (which I do not take for granted), you would have to invade us to force us to take on something so stupid. But since both our countries have sent all our working soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq, the war would have to be fought by hockey players. Is Dustin Byfuglien yours or ours?

  99. 99.

    ruemara

    May 24, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    @Dork:

    Is it wrong that I find a “Perry Bacon Jr” to be delicious? Curse you diet.

    @Face:
    I just can’t fucking look anymore. Hang the way the law normally works, time for the gov to sweep them aside, commandeer the resources and cap that shit now. Leave ’em stuttering in the dust with a bill taped to their forehead.

  100. 100.

    Steve Finlay

    May 24, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Clarification: My point is that the wackos who think the “amero” is real must be assuming that nefarious evil furriners in Canada and Mexico WANT to take over the glorious greenback. This is idiocy: Any evil furriner who would actually WANT to do that must have an IQ in the single digits.

  101. 101.

    JenJen

    May 24, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    @Paul in KY: Oh honey, I’ve always been a big fan of yours. ;-)

    @Carol Johnson: Are you in Cincinnati? I never knew that about the Blue Ash Airport and honestly can’t imagine having the big airport there now, but in retrospect it would’ve been preferable to Strip Mall City. Speaking of Kenwood (where I live), urban blight has shamed us into submission. I’m speaking, of course, of the Shame of the City, the hideous unfinished construction that is the Kroger Metroplex adjacent to the Mall, that Kroger is finally abandoning (shocking!! not) at the end of the month. It really does stand as the Local Poster Child for the 2008 Crash, if you ask me. This is what crooked bankers, crooked developers and a greedy lust for unnecessary expansion looks like, Cincinnati. Tear the whole pathetic goddamned failed thing down, I say.

  102. 102.

    MTiffany

    May 24, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    @Alan in SF:

    Oddly enough—and who would have predicted?—the “evidence” the Post commenter says proves his case about the “amero” proves the exact opposite.

    Exactly! That’s what the conspiracy wants you to think! By providing evidence to the contrary, the conspiracy outs itself by affirming the negative! You have to know how to think about these kind of things, otherwise, reality seems rational.

  103. 103.

    Steve Finlay

    May 24, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    @MTiffany: Brilliant! MTiffany, I humbly accept that I cannot even attempt to snatch the pebble from your hand.

  104. 104.

    Steeplejack

    May 24, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    @Quackosaur:

    Well, you were the first commenter, so you didn’t have the benefit of reading all the chortling, congratulatory responses.

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