Somehow or another I really tweaked my shoulder today, so to ease the physical pain and the mental anguish I just created reading the stupidity at memeorandum, I’m drinking a mojito the size of Tunch. I do have to say that at memeorandum, I found myself in complete agreement with Greg Sargent– it is time for Sestak to shit or get off the pot in regards to the job offer controversy he created.
In other news, I picked up a “pineapple tomato” plant that I found intriguing and will add it to the garden, as well as a beautiful geranium that had not yet bloomed, which I think I will just put on Tunch’s ledge with the jade plant and the bird’s nest fern.
ellaesther
Dude. The size of Tunch? I mean, I don’t usually go in for the Tunch-bashing, but I’m just going to say that I hope you’re not also on pain meds, because throwing a mojito the size of Tunch on top of them would likely kill you ded.
And I would miss you.
ETA: Feel better!
schrodinger's cat
My big orange kitteh loves to pluck leaves off of the jade plant and bat at them, as if they were mice. I hope your jade plant survives on Tunch’s perch.
Just Some Fuckhead
Who fucking cares about Sestak and some phantom job offer. This is exactly the sorta nonsense people are fed up with. Meanwhile we got no financial reform, no climate legislation, no consensus on an unemployment bill, a porous and dangerous Southern border and an ecological disaster in the Gulf.
Christ, people are fools.
Josie
Pictures please – the plants and/or Tunch, not the mojito.
Anne
I got pineapple tomatoes from my CSA last year, and they’re great. Big, juicy, good flavor, and gorgeous yellowish-orange flesh shot through with red:
flickr.com/photos/beyondramen/3869623994/
I picked one up for my garden this year, too. Take care of that shoulder!
South of I-10
BP’s company man on the DWH refuses to testify at the MMS/Coast Guard hearings – cites 5th Amendment.
John Cole
@Just Some Fuckhead: Actually, we got financial reform.
Violet
I had a pineapple tomato a few years ago. Didn’t do very well in my neck of the woods, but I don’t live in prime tomato country.
Bad Horse's Filly
One of my big boys went out onto the patio, decided a geranium looked tasty, ate a few leaves and a flower, came in (or course) and promptly threw it all up. Hasn’t touched it since, so I think yours will be safe on Tunch’s perch, even if he decides it looks like lunch.
Yutsano
@John Cole: Dude you’re harshing his poutrage. It’s still all Obama’s fault.
Bad Horse's Filly
Also, since this is an open thread, on my way home from work, I got caught up in a fleet of storm chasers (at least a dozen). Took me a minute to realize what they were. I wondered where they were going, then I looked east…Oh, that’s where they are going, where that big rotating cloud is.
I have to tell you, when they turned off I was sorely tempted to follow them.
ellaesther
Ok, Open Thread, right?
So: Please tell your senators that they should sign Sen. Feinstein’s letter calling on Obama to move Israel and the Palestinians back to direct negotiations aimed at a two-state solution as soon as possible:
emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/calling-all-us-senators-please-support-israeli-palesti…
Also, too: Anybody here old enough to be struck by how striking it is that a powerful US Senator — a powerful Jewish US Senator — is urging the American President to do what he can to establish an independent Palestine?
We forget how mindblowing that is.
Cat Lady
Things work in mysterious ways. MA Attorney General Martha Coakley’s office is suing to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act.
Coakley is a very good AG. This could get very interesting.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cat Lady: Will this put Scotty Brown in a tough spot on DADT? Underlining his out-of-touchitude? Coakley’s revenge?
Litlebritdifrnt
This evening when I pulled into the driveway and parked (at the end cause DH is away), I noticed that two parent Grackles were going nutsoid. Then I noticed in the tree by the driveway was a baby grackle, obviously just fledged sitting in the tree. Con and Ms. Peaches were attempting to exit the garage (where they had been sleeping cause of the rain) and every time they snuck their heads out the grackles swooped down on them to attack. When I stuck my head out of the car (very, very close to the baby) the parents turned their attention to me (it was like a scene from The Birds I swear), at least it gave Con and Peaches a break to get to the front door. Eventually the three of us made our way to the front door with the Grackle parents scolding us from the trees. Good times.
Cat Lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yes. Brown picked the wrong hill to die on, here in this state. Dead Man Walking.
ellaesther
Oh and while I’m being self-promoting:
If you could meet anyone in the world – would you?
emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/the-limits-of-awkward-conversation-or-bono-obama-and-m…
Brian J
Well, now, it’s nice to hear that you are drinking a mojito. I love them. They are, by far, my favorite drink. They give you a nice buzz, but they aren’t nearly as heavy doing down as a lot of other drinks. Sure, it’s not Jameson, but who cares? If you like it, you should drink it, which is the motto I take in regards to this drink. And yet, I still get crap from friends and coworkers. It’s not a comso, for Christ’s sake (and if you are a guy that likes those, drink ’em, whether or not you are gay).
Knowing that John Cole, a man’s man, drinks them is quite a relief.
jeffreyw
Mmm…BBQ chicken.
WereBear
I think John should patent that drink, and call it the Tunchito.
I fulfilled a long held ambition today; I remembered to pick up a bag of whole beans and grind them with the coarse setting for my French press. Num.
So my ambition was kinda small. I achieved it!
Note to self: get a Tunch mug and my mornings will be awesome.
jeffreyw
C’mon…throw it!
DougJ
I’m so sick of the so-called Sestak controversy. Who cares? I can honestly say that I don’t care when Republicans do this either. This is just how politics works. Why make a big to do about it?
jeffreyw
Sorry, no points.
jeffreyw
Much better, Bea.
South of I-10
@Litlebritdifrnt: Sounds like the nesting pair of Mockingbirds in my Azalea bush. You better not get too close to the azalea, if you know what’s good for you!
ellaesther
@WereBear: Still, I think we’re going to have to crank your ambitions up a notch. Maybe to grind the beans AND drink the resultant coffee from that Tunch mug. Dare to dream!
Corner Stone
@Brian J:
***SPUTTER***
Tsulagi
Maybe you could use some time in an all-inclusive in Mexico. At the one I came back from last week, you could have all the mojitos you could drink while conscious. And if you came to before 2am, you could have them cart your ass to another restaurant/buffet or bar to knock yourself out.
One trendy new thing among beach vendors selling stuff was massage. For around $25 you could have an hour massage on a table set up on the sand under an umbrella. Most of the massage were offered by guys, but I did notice a few fairly nice-looking masseuses. Didn’t get to find out how good they were as the SO lives to rain on my parades.
But I’m sure laying on a cushy table on a nice beach, gentle breezes, and drinking a mojito while lovely hands work your muscles just can’t compare to the joy you get from writing a blog.
Elisabeth
@ellaesther:
So I guess she wasn’t one of the 70+ Congresscritters who wrote and told the president to back off being soooo mean to the Israeli government?
PeakVT
I think I will just put on Tunch’s ledge with the jade plant and the bird’s nest fern.
Don’t be surprised if Tunch suddenly starts sneezing on occasion.
Allison W.
I wonder what the Left would say if Sestak wasn’t a Progressive? I wonder what they would say if Specter made an allegedly false claim, won the primary and then wouldn’t answer reporters about whether the claim was true or not?
Corner Stone
@Allison W.: WTF are you babbling about?
This is a silly non-story. Who gives a shit?
Corner Stone
@Tsulagi:
I think you just sealed the deal.
Calming Influence
Tunch could drink a mojito the size of John Cole and still walk a straight line to the food bowl.
BombIranForChrist
I don’t want to sound like a liberal conspiracy nutbag, but is memeorandum weighted heavily towards conservative sites? It seems that every time I go there, the top stories are about:
1. Palin
2. Teabaggery
Am I seeing conspiracy where none exists?
ellaesther
@Elisabeth: I presume not!
Honestly, when I started writing commentary about the issue of the occupation and a two-state solution and yada yada yada, alllll the way back in 2002, I got threatening phone calls and nasty-ass letters and peace-advocating Jews spoke in whispers — all of 8 years ago, I would never have dreamed that a Feinstein would do this.
Having said that, my real fear is that the general waking-up of the American Jewish community is coming too late.
Litlebritdifrnt
@South of I-10:
Yeah last year the Mockingbirds nested in the same spot and it was a nightmare getting home.
dr. luba
I hate black flies. That is all.
Bruce (formerly Steve S.)
I’ve seen the 10-15 second James Carville clip three or four times, but just now I saw it for the first time with the sound down. Either he has a John Holmes sized dick or Mary Matalin has sexual proclivities that would make the Marquis de Sade blush. Sweet Jesus, if for any reason you need to swear off sex forever just picture those two in the sack together, it’ll be a piece of cake.
debit
@WereBear: If there is a Caribou near you, try the Lucana beans. Seriously. Caribou has been perfecting the dark, rich roast but without the bitterness. First Obsidian (good) then Mahogany (really good) and now Lucana (OMG so incredibly good).
WereBear
@debit: Mmmm, I do love dark roast. I have yet another ambition! Thanks.
Corner Stone
@Bruce (formerly Steve S.): I’m sure you were saying something but for some strange reason I’m now blind and can’t read it.
trollhattan
So help me Cole, I hope you get your sack of goddamn Carly cash from me clicking that link immediately above this post.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
She knew she could feed on his soul, she didn’t know it would mean she got his face (remember when she used to call him Serpenthead? How’s that for karma). Other than the Cheneys, I can’t think of two people who deserve each other more.
Anne Laurie
@Bad Horse’s Filly:
May be just as well you didn’t. The evening news had a 30-second shot of the “6 – 12 inches of hail” that crunched car windows “in the Denver area.” I did wonder about you at the time, and I’m glad to hear that you didn’t get caught in it… at least, not accidentally!
YellowJournalism
Found out today that both boys have ear infections. I didn’t even suspect it with the younger one! And hubby is working late today, so I’m on vomit patrol by myself for the first half of the night. Man, I wish I could have a mojito right now…or maybe a bellini. I would also be curious to see what a Tunch-sized mojito actually looks like.
@Litlebritdifrnt: Yikes. My sister ran over a crow once, and a large group of his buddies chased her into the house as soon as she got out of the car. The next two days, there was a flock of them camped out in the tree near where she hit it. (My parents had a long driveway with lots of big trees. Dead baby birds were common sights in the spring.) Sis is deathly scared of birds, especially crows, turkeys, and chickens, even before the crow incident happened.
asiangrrlMN
@ellaesther: I wrote a response! I actually would because one thing I have confidence in is my ability to chat with people.
@jeffreyw: You are a cruel cruel man.
@Brian J: Actually, I find mojitos to be insidiously dangerous because they don’t taste like they have alcohol in them, and I have a low tolerance. They are quite tasty, though.
Oh, and obligatory, Tuuuuuuuuuuuunch!
Anne Laurie
John, we tried a Pineapple tomato last year, and it was sooo good that this year we have two. (As well as a related variety called Ananas Noire or ‘Black Pineapple’, another experiment.) We were warned they could be a little fussy and weren’t as productive as the standard big-box offerings, but last summer none of our tomatoes did very well — we had record-setting rains three months in a row — and the Pineapple still produced a few fruits to enrapture both me and the super-taster Spousal Unit. So I’d advise making sure your plant stays well-watered, for best results…
gbear
open thread question to the grammar trolls here:
When alphabetizing a CD collection, who comes first:
Beck, Jeff or Beck (Hansen)?
WereBear
@gbear: Beck first, as a singular name.
For instance, Cher.
Morbo
Open thread huh. Dear NPR: If I have to hear one more fucking sob story about Harvard business school grads unable to find jobs right out of college I am going to drive into the nearest telephone pole. Do you really want that on your conscience?
SixStringSlingr
@gbear: Since his stage name is simply “Beck”, I would put him first.
ETA: ‘Cause if you were gonna go with Beck Hansen, he’d belong in the H section.
gbear
Thanks.
Thankfully, I don’t have to think about where to put Cher.
gbear
@Morbo: Did you hear their tearful goodbye story about that retiring bimbo news anchor yesterday? I came into that story near the end and was wondering who this life-long public servant was. I will admit that I screamed at the radio when I realized who it really was. Luckily no telephone poles were nearby.
Steeplejack
@gbear:
What WereBear said.
And alphabetize your goddamn numerical artists as if they were spelled out, e.g., “311” as “Three Eleven.” None of this “We have a fake numeric section at the beginning of the alphabet” crap. That’s not alphabetizing, that’s sorting.
SIA
@Yutsano: Hey, everything go OK with the surgery? Had to step away from the puter for a few days so didn’t read anything afterwards. Hope all is well.
Anya
A nice perspective from a TPM reader who seems knowledgable about drilling technology. CRITICAL PERSPECTIVE
ellaesther
@asiangrrlMN: I saw that! You are braver than me, quite genuinely. (I used to be braver than I am today — foolhardy might be more like it).
And, if I may: Yay for Balloon Juicers who comment on my blog! It makes me happy, always.
Mnemosyne
@YellowJournalism:
It could be worse — my friend took her daughter to the doctor with what she thought was a cold and it turned out the poor kid had pneumonia. She felt like the worst mother ever.
Anya
No link, why can’t I do these stupid tasks properly.
Steeplejack
@Anya:
The link is there, but when you use all caps it doesn’t show up. It’s a WordPress thing. Better to use caps and lower case (more readable, anyway).
ETA: Here is the (edited) link taken from your comment: Critical Perspective.
SIA
@Steeplejack: So can you tell me how to show a link, but type in what you want to call it, rather than the http://www.blank.com actual link address? I see this done all the time and have no idea how.
ellaesther
@WereBear: @SixStringSlingr: What they said.
(Alphabetized CDs, FTW! When my daughter was a toddler, she would constantly rearrange them and it drove me nuts.)
Yutsano
@SIA: It went pretty fast. I’m still in the recovery stages which means I’m probably gonna get some static for sitting out the whole week. I’ve also decided I didn’t care, as I tested with the IRS and they sent me an unnecessary reminder e-mail to take the test, so I’m guessing even if I show at least a modicum of competence I may just get that job. Not counting anything just yet, but it does look good there. I’ll most likely go back to work on Sunday barring anything unforeseen.
@Anya: A) as Steeplejack explained, your link works just fine.
B) thanks for that. It always helps to get a perspective from someone who knows what the hell they’re taking about.
gbear
@Steeplejack: Yes. I do have UB40 before U2.
Steeplejack
@SIA:
1. Type what you want to actually appear in your comment, e.g., Critical Perspective.
2. Highlight it.
3. Click (or “mash,” if you are really Southern) the “link” button just above the comment window. This will pop up a little window where you . . .
4. Enter the actual URL you want to link to.
Note: Make sure the URL includes the “http://” prefix. WordPress does not like links that start with “www”.
What you will end up with in your comment is this:
(P.S. And, yes, I broke my own rule from the other night about putting a period outside quote marks, because in techno-geek writing you want to make sure the reader doesn’t think the period is part of the literal computer text.)
ellaesther
@gbear: Of course you do.
Because you’re literate.
Ronbo
Enough! How about we argue that Candidate Hillary made love to and then killed her lawyer? You are festering maggots and then wondering what that nasty smell is.
Basta!
Ronbo
@Just Some Fuckhead:
I couldn’t agree more. These nitwits won’t quit … wonder why?
Brian J
@Corner Stone:
Huh?
@asiangrrlMN:
I think it depends on where you get them. Some chain restaurants are known to water down some liquor. But yes, in general, they can be dangerous because they taste so light.
Steeplejack
@gbear:
Thank you. You have validated my existence sufficiently for me to slog on through the undifferentiated gray landscape of my life for another day or two.
WereBear
And I always put Prince under the P’s, as a singular name, and it doesn’t matter what weird symbol he might be using at the time…
Zamfir, of course, goes last.
Anya
@Steeplejack: Thanks for the tutorial. Much appreciated!
@Yutsano: I hope you feel better soon. And good luck with that job.
gbear
@WereBear: Actually, The Zombies are last.
edit: and in the LPs, ZZTop are (is?) last, of course
Steeplejack
@WereBear:
What? You have Zamfir but no Z.Z. Top?! For shame.
Had a friend back in the day who would crack me up by putting on her fake British accent and calling them “Zed Zed Top.” Good times.
Svensker
Mr. Cole, could your multitudinous gardening/yard activities be a bit much for your shoulder? Go easy, sir!
WereBear
@gbear: Oh, I was making a joke about Zamfir. I’m with the comedian who said, “Let’s all hope Zamfir doesn’t die tragically.”
I have The Zombies, but ZZ Top goes first, I think.
ellaesther
@gbear: Zuzu’s Petals.
youtube.com/watch?v=OdZYjCphnJ8
YellowJournalism
@Mnemosyne: I was actually worried that is exactly what was wrong with my oldest. I am very thankful it wasn’t that, but it turned out the infection in his right ear is pretty bad, and I’m thankful I didn’t wait any longer to take him in. I’m always paranoid about being “that mom” who takes her kids in for any little thing to the point of being annoying, because the last few times we’ve gone to the doctor, I’ve been told that whatever I brought them in for was nothing to worry about (aka nothing to waste the doctor’s time with). The boys’ doctor is pretty good with them, though, and we’ve been through a lot with him because of our youngest son’s medical problems.
@Yutsano: Cougars heal fast. Or is that only the case of a hangover?
Anya
Are we too high minded to discuss the blogger and SC GOP candidate’s alleged affair?
I am not interested in the morality of it or even the political angle but the stupidity of these politians to incriminate themselves. First of all why are politicians stupid enough to send each other texts. If you are dumb enough to have an affair, why not learn how to cover it up, or have the freaking affair with someone who has the same incentive to keep it a secret. Another ambitious sleazebag who has an equal chance on losing it all if the affair is discovered.
Steeplejack
@WereBear:
Goddamnit, “ZOM” goes before “ZZT”.
Throw out spaces and punctuation and go by the letters alone. You don’t care what “Z.Z.” stands for, because the group’s name is not Zebediah Zephyr Top, it’s Z.Z. Top.
And if it were the name of a guy, he would be alphabetized under “Top, Z.Z.”
(Jethro Tull is alphabetized in the J’s for the same reason–group name, not a guy. Although I think they should be called Jethro Dull, based on the worst concert I ever attended.)
handy
This basketball game is brutal. Way to go refs.
gbear
@Anya:
Sorry, we’re working the other end of the alphabet tonight.
Yutsano
@YellowJournalism: I’d still rather be a Coug than a Dawg. Although ultimate irony: if I get the new job it is literally right across the canal from Montlake. It’ll all be good though. I think I’m healing I’m just maybe slightly pushing it as it was only two days ago.
Mumphrey
I heard about the “bribe” thing, but I don’t see how it could be a bribe, at least as I understand what a bribe is.
Maybe I’m wrong here, but it’s my understanding that a bribe is when A gives, or offers to give, B something of value, whether money, land, a job or something else, and then B does A some kind of favor in the official capacity of a government job.
So, if A gives B’s son a job, and B is a judge, and throws out evidence from a trial in which A is a party or something, then that’s a bribe. If A gives B, a customs officer, $100 if B doesn’t go through A’s bag, then that is a bribe. If A, who is a president, gives B, a senator, a seat ont he Supreme Court if B will vote for bill number whatever, then that is a bribe.
But I don’t see how Sestak’s backing out of a political race is a favor done in his official capacity as a Representative. He isn’t saying he’ll vote for this or that bill or against this or that amendment or for this or that nominee. All he’s doing is dropping his Senate run. That’s a private choice. You could call it a favor, but it’s still a private favor. How can that be bribery? I think the Republicans are nuts for trying to make this into a big deal, at least if we’re talking about the legal or ethical merits of the thing. As far as fundraising goes, and stoking up the teabaggers goes, it might make sense, I guess, but really, there doesn’t seem to be any wrongdoing here to me.
If I’m wrong and there are any lawyers here who know more about this than I do, then by all means, set me straight.
Steeplejack
@gbear:
Ze amour? [Pepe Le Pew voice]
SIA
@Steeplejack:
OK! Hope I mash the right buttons.
ETA: Hey – it worked! thanks Steeplejack.
SIA
@Yutsano: Glad to hear it. I have a feeling you’ll get that job.
Anya
@Mumphrey: It doesn’t matter whether a crime took place or not, the GOP will continue to insinuate that laws were broken and the stupid villagers will cary their water and that asshole Issa will continue to harass Holder if this is not dealt with. Sestak has to come forward with a better explanation than he’d offered thus far. I think his performance with dancing Dave was pitiful. Why can’t he put this to rest?
SIA
@WereBear: I would think The Zombies would go before ZZ Top (Z-O is before Z-Z). Unless you’d file The Zombies under “T” which I doubt, right?
gbear
@Steeplejack:
and Iggy Pop is under ‘I’ for the same reason (and because he started out as Iggy and the Stooges).
Steeplejack
@SIA:
Well done.
Jeez, never thought I’d say this twice in one hour: You have validated my existence sufficiently for me to slog on through the undifferentiated gray landscape of my life for
another day or twomaybe a week or so.Steeplejack
@gbear:
Thank you. Order is restored to the universe.
It is a tribute to Michael Bay’s filmmaking prowess that this thread is more interesting to me than the climax of Transformers on ABC.
SIA
@Steeplejack: My dear, not only do I validate your existence, but I celebrate it; not just for your superb XHTML tutorial, which a non-tech person like me can understand and implement, but for your excellent analysis of British mystery programs. I salute you.
MagicPanda
@gbear: I think all alphabetizing for music should be done by whatever their stage name is (without reordering), because it’s the only sane way to do it.
If you go by last name except for fake stage names (like Iggy Pop) which of the following should be sorted by last name, and which should be sorted by first name?
Elvis Costello (born Declan MacManus)
Madonna (born Madonna Ciccone)
Alicia Keys (born Alicia Augello Cook)
Belinda Carlisle (born Belinda Jo Kerzcheski)
Steeplejack
@SIA:
Have to admit I have fallen behind on the new season of Foyle’s War. After that first episode, which I didn’t like much, I recorded the two following, but I haven’t watched them yet. Then this last weekend there was not another one, at least on my PBS stations here in NoVa. WTF?! I know the previous season was short, but three episodes? C’mon! I hope this is just a brief programming gap.
Thinking back on the whole series, what I would like to see is an episode in which Foyle goes to America to catch up with the American diplomat or industrialist who either committed murder or was implicated in a murder and got away because of the exigencies of the war effort. Foyle told him he would be coming after him one day. Do you remember that episode?
Mumphrey
@Anya:
Yes, you’re right about the Republicans screaming about it all. It makes me sad that they have so little morality that they’d do that, but it doesn’t shock me.
I never saw Sestak talking about this; I don’t know how badly he handled it, but it seems like it shouldn’t have been too hard to wave it away. I got the impression that he himself tried to make it into some big scandal before the primary to somehow impugn Specter. I can see how people might look at it and see it as what they always decry as–and I’m so tired of hearing this expression but I don’t know of any other–“politics as usual”, but it doesn’t really bother me. It happens all the time.
Allison W.
So I saw this reader letter at TPM. It’s an actual expert with actual experience and he gives his report of things. Things the MSM isn’t telling you for some reason.
Steeplejack
@MagicPanda:
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We don’t care what their real names are–or, in Madonna’s case, even what her surname is–because we are going by the stage names under which they perform.
And, yes, Elvis Costello started out as Elvis Costello and the Attractions, which might get him in the E’s, but he has released enough albums as plain Elvis Costello that it makes sense to catalogue him as “Costello, Elvis.” (Ditto for Ben Folds and the Ben Folds Five.)
WereBear
@Steeplejack: How can that be? I’m trying to wrap my mind around a boring Ian Anderson… and failing.
But off days happen to everyone.
@Yutsano: So glad to hear. DO NOT PUSH. For heaven’s sake… our minds always get bored before our bodies are ready.
@SIA: Well, true, “The” never counts.
But I put Z Z Top first because it’s just Z, then Frank Zappa (because I group him with Mothers of Invention, and he’s the common denominator) then Warren Zevon, then Zombies, The.
MagicPanda
@Steeplejack: But then I don’t get why Iggy Pop would be under I instead of P. How is that different than Elvis Costello?
Would Big Boi be sorted as “Big” or “Boi”?
MagicPanda
And how is Elvis Costello any more or less a stage name than Snoop Dog? And if they are the same, would you file under Dog, Snoop?
Cacti
I think the WH is right to let Sestak twist in the wind.
I believe the reason he’s being so cagey is that he exaggerated and now there’s no way out of it without him looking like a d-bag.
WereBear
@MagicPanda: I think it was mentioned that he started out as Iggy and the Stooges. Just as it was, I think, Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention.
I can see why Cher and Prince and Madonna went with the one name.
MagicPanda
@WereBear: Except that Steeplejack said that Elvis Costello started out as Elvis Costello and the Attractions…
Yutsano
@WereBear: I have a friend who’s a surgeon who’s keeping tabs on how I’m feeling. If I can’t work tomorrow I can’t period. They’ll just have to adjust. And if not we’ll both move on.
gbear
@Steeplejack: I’ve got Elvis Costello under ‘C’ and Ben Folds Five under ‘F; Elvis Pesley under ‘P’, although he has his own special box.
Steeplejack
@MagicPanda:
With Iggy Pop, I was cutting gbear some slack. I could possibly see alphabetizing Iggy Pop as “Pop, Iggy.”
With Snoop Dogg and Big Boi (and Lupe Fiasco and 50 Cent, etc.), you’re talking about stage “names” that are labels and don’t aspire to be names in the way that “Elvis Costello” or “Elton John” is a name, albeit a fake one. That is, you’re never going to hear anyone say, “Hey, Mr. Cent, can I have your autograph?” I think Snoop started out as “Snoop Doggy Dogg.” (“Well, we named him after his uncle, but then we gave him his mother’s maiden name as his middle name.” No.)
And, as with everything else, there are always tough borderline calls. I deal with this crap every day at the Big Box Bookstore. Don’t get me started on Gabriel García Márquez.
ETA: In the final analysis, it’s up to whomever the job is for. I go by store/library type rules, but if you’re doing your own CD collection you can do it any way you want. “I have a huge T section: The Beatles, The Bee Gees, The Cars, The Doors . . . I just can’t figure out where to put The The.”
someguy
This blog is always a reliable place to catch the latest in right wing talking point / concern trolls. John still can’t help but parrot right wing talking points. Last week it was Blumenthal. This week it’s Sestak.
For fuck’s sake John, I know you’re a former Republican but honestly, I thought when you gave that shit up it meant you quit chugging Teh Stupid out of the keg. Try to keep it down to 2-3 swigs per day, willya?
WereBear
@MagicPanda: He started out just as Elvis Costello. The Attractions became his backing band, later.
One of the things you have to consider is if the band was a separate entity/front man situation. Then there’s who wrote the songs…
And to be honest, I can’t even crack open the cabinet and see how I did everything, because Mr WereBear loaded it all into iTunes and we put the CD’s in storage. Now we’re at the mercy of Steve Jobs for alphabetizing… but at least we can search. :)
MagicPanda
@Steeplejack: Hehe… :-)
Totally makes sense. I used to catalog CDs by last name years and years ago, and then I gave up. A “stage name without reordering” system isn’t any more or less right, but it’s a hell of a lot easier.
More puzzles that I can now avoid:
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Doc Severinson (file under S?)
Dr. Octagon (file under D because octagon sounds less like a name than severinson?)
Fatboy Slim (file under F?)
Fats Domino (file under D because the dude’s real name is Antoine Domino?)
Kenny G (file under G for Kenneth Gorelick? Or under K?)
Steeplejack
@gbear:
The King definitely deserves his own box.
gbear
The ambien has kicked in royal. gotta go. goodnight all. (you don’t want me Posting on ambien. It’s not pretty).
SIA
@Steeplejack: I do remember that episode. That would be a good plot for afinal one. And I bet Sam goes with him.
I watched both the 2nd episode, and thought it was good. I’ll be interested in your take if you recorded it and watch it later.
Think there’s to be at least a 4th episode, but I’m not sure, because the had a Miss Marple mystery on last week.
Steeplejack
@MagicPanda:
However you can find it is the best system to use. I would agree with all your examples. I don’t know Dr. Octagon, but it sounds like a band name, not a person.
At the store we have Kenny G in the K’s. At home I do not have that particular problem, thank God. (Okay, I do like a couple of his songs. “Midnight Motion,” maybe, when I’m in a particularly sniveling smooth jazz mood.)
Steeplejack
@MagicPanda:
Damn you. I had to go look up “Midnight Motion” on YouTube. Share the burn.
I think Hiroshima’s “One Wish” is a viable antidote, according to the periodic table of smooth jazz.
Steeplejack
@SIA:
I did record them and probably will get caught up over the holiday weekend.
Steeplejack
I’m out. Gotta go to work early in the morning.
asiangrrlMN
And I thought I was OCD. Huh.
@ellaesther: You want my honest answer? My ability to chat and charm, etc., is one thing in which I have confidence. Plus, I have enough intelligence and knowledge to talk about many things. Therefore, I think I would be able to talk to just about anyone, except, as I noted, Alan Rickman.
@Brian J: I believe Corner Stone is laughing at your description of Cole being a man’s man. And, as for the mojitos, I’m a lightweight. One drink in less than an hour is enough to get me buzzed.
kay
That’s it exactly. I don’t know how Sestak weasels out of this, though.
He was outraged and shocked.
Just go out and admit it was a political ploy to gain “outsider” status, and drop the confidential informant-style intrigue.