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Brazil v Chile Open Thread

by Randinho|  June 28, 20102:13 pm| 89 Comments

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Can Chile stop Brazil or will the absence of three of Chile’s defenders make them the first South American team to go home?

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  1. 1.

    frankdawg

    June 28, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Brazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [inhale, back to vuvulezla] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzil!

  2. 2.

    Stroszek

    June 28, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    I hear Brazil is good at the soccer.

  3. 3.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Got the TV on and they showed the crowds at the Copacabana beach in Rio. Wow.

  4. 4.

    Punchy

    June 28, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    How about BJ-sponsored Brazilian waxes if Brazil wins?

  5. 5.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Go Chile!

  6. 6.

    Morbo

    June 28, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Missing three defenders? Oh dear, I don’t think I’ve predicted a big enough win for Brazil.

  7. 7.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Chile has an Argentine manager? That’s like England having a Scottish manager. Inconceivable!

  8. 8.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Chile’s flag is very similar to the Texas flag.

  9. 9.

    wmd

    June 28, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Regardless of who wins a South American team will go home.

  10. 10.

    valdivia

    June 28, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    interesting piece on Bielsa the chile team coach
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2010/06/bielsa_plots_brazil_downfall.html

  11. 11.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Aguante el Locoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. 12.

    frankdawg

    June 28, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    @Violet:

    We have a large Chilean community here & I used to wonder why all the Texans had moved in :)

  13. 13.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    @frankdawg:
    Yeah, one of my friends is married to a Chilean. When I first met him, I couldn’t figure out why he had a Texas flag hanging at his house. So I asked and then felt like an idiot when they told me it was a Chilean flag. LOL.

  14. 14.

    Punchy

    June 28, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    All this talk of Chile and Brazil makes me hungry for a bowl of some warm scantily clad swimsuit models

  15. 15.

    valdivia

    June 28, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    is it my imagination or are the chileans giving the brazilians a fight?

  16. 16.

    Bootlegger

    June 28, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Chile refuse to bunker down and counter, they will attack from the start and pray to their Incan gods they get some goals. This game won’t be 0-0 at FT.

  17. 17.

    Bootlegger

    June 28, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    New FIFA rule, if a player goes down too easy or doesn’t try to keep his feet no foul is called even if he’s hit with a 2×4.

  18. 18.

    wrye

    June 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    I’d like to see someone new win the cup, but I suspect It’ll be another Germany/Brazil final. So go Chile, I guess?

  19. 19.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    @valdivia:
    Chile seems to be fighting hard to me.

  20. 20.

    Bootlegger

    June 28, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    “He’s gone to ground too cheaply.”

    Kudos to the ESPN commentators who have consistently called out the drama queens.

  21. 21.

    Miss Kitka's Comrade Wayne

    June 28, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Julio Cesar (Brazil’s goalkeeper) looks just like Buzz Lightyear?

    I want more Chilean shots on goal the better to test this.

  22. 22.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Ooh, nicely done from the corner kick.

  23. 23.

    Martin

    June 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Nice goal

  24. 24.

    Gozer

    June 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Goooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaalll!

    (couldn’t resist)

  25. 25.

    Bootlegger

    June 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    That Brazilian play looked like the ol’ USC student-body-right, two pulling guards clearing out for the back.

  26. 26.

    Bootlegger

    June 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Chile was going to live or die by their attacking style. Brazilians say DIE.

  27. 27.

    Martin

    June 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Wow!

  28. 28.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Where was the Chilean goalkeeper?

  29. 29.

    Nethead Jay

    June 28, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Very nice first-timer from Kaka to Fabiano on the 2nd goal.

  30. 30.

    Moonbatting Average

    June 28, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    How was that second goal not negated by an off-side?

  31. 31.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Lucio looks like Seinfeld‘s Kramer.

  32. 32.

    Mike E

    June 28, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Wow, you can feel how wound-up Chile is. Brazil, so calm and clinical: This would describe the side that have any chance of hanging with them. Who dat?

  33. 33.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    @Moonbatting Average:

    Fabiano was shooting into an empty net, not passing to Kaka. So no offside, even though Kaka was technically in an offside position (it was Kaka to his left, right?).

  34. 34.

    You Don't Say

    June 28, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Who can beat Brazil?

  35. 35.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    @You Don’t Say:
    Uruguay?

  36. 36.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    @Violet: En sus sueños. Em seus sonhos.

  37. 37.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    @valdivia:
    Hey look! You’re being substituted in on the Chilean side! Let us know what it’s like to play Brazil.

  38. 38.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    @You Don’t Say:

    In order of likelihood:

    Germany
    Uruguay (yes Uruguay, arcane futbolistic reasons)
    Argentina (Also arcane futbolistic reasons)
    Netherlands.

  39. 39.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    @Randy Paul:
    Yeah, probably. Brazil is looking fearsome.

    Since I haven’t followed football at all prior to the World Cup, can someone tell me what Brazil’s record is against Argentina?

  40. 40.

    valdivia

    June 28, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    @Violet:
    lol.

  41. 41.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    @Violet:

    In world cup Matches the only one I remember is 1990’s Argentina 1 – Brazil 0, glorious, glorious day.

  42. 42.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    June 28, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    @NameRequired:

    No, not Uruguay. Ghana needs to beat them so I don’t feel as bad about our defeat.

  43. 43.

    Gozer

    June 28, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    @Violet:

    As per wiki of the 89 matches played between the nat’l teams 23 were draws with both nations having 33 wins.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina_and_Brazil_football_rivalry

  44. 44.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Off Course, generally they win, but they still remember that elimination in the round of 16

  45. 45.

    Mark S.

    June 28, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    If I were Dunga, I’d start thinking about taking Kaka out. The last thing they need is for him to get another yellow.

  46. 46.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    In more recent history they have beaten Argentina in the last two Copa America championship games.

  47. 47.

    Martin

    June 28, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Well, that should settle this match. Bring on the next victim.

  48. 48.

    KG

    June 28, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    @Violet: All time record is 33-33-23, so they are actually evenly matched, historically. Of course, that doesn’t really mean much since it’s not like Maradona and Pele are playing these games. Much like in the World According to ESPN the Lakers losing 9 of 11 NBA Finals to the Celtics supposedly mattered – as if West, Russell, Cousy, and Chamberlain were going to be suiting up.

  49. 49.

    Fester Addams

    June 28, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    So it’s all futbol all the time here at Jus de Ballon…

  50. 50.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    @Gozer:
    Oh, wow. Wikipedia even has it’s own page for the rivalry. I should have known.

    Sounds like they are evenly matched. So potentially they could play each other in the final, if they both make it that far.

    I wish Chile would get a goal.

  51. 51.

    Miss Kitka's Comrade Wayne

    June 28, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    @Violet: In World Cup matches, Brazil defeated Argentina in 1974 (2 to 1) and in 1982 (3 to 1). As NameRequired correctly notes, Argentina defeated Brazil in 1990 (1 to 0). I happened to have watched all three of those matches, each on a different color teevee.

  52. 52.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    The last non-age restricted tournament Argentina won was the 1993 Copa America. The Olympics have age restrictions.

  53. 53.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    @Violet: Not recently they aren’t.

  54. 54.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Brazil looks formidable.

  55. 55.

    Eric S.

    June 28, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    @KG: For the love of FSM, THIS! How I tire of historical analysis. At best it is interesting trivia and it is nice to know something about the history of sports.

  56. 56.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    June 28, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Since I’m a fan of the Dutch, just how much better are Brazil than the Orange? Is it worth bothering to turn the TV on?

  57. 57.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    We won’t know until they meet. The hooting for Brazil is a bit premature, given their performance against North Korea and Portugal. How good are Chile?

    I think the Germans, Dutch, Spanish or Argentina would do a lot better than Chile. I further think England made Germany look a bit better than they are. I’m rooting for a first and long-overdue Dutch win.

  58. 58.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Can’t wait to talk to my friend who has been watching this match in Brazil.

  59. 59.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    June 28, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    @Leeds man: Just wondering, because the ESPN analysts have been savaging the Dutch defense all day and saying that Brazil’s attack is going to expose them.

  60. 60.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    @Leeds man: North Korea was a bit of an unkown entity until Brazil played them. Portugal played a dirty game to tie.

    Brazil played pretty well against Ivory Coast.

    The best WC final would still be brazil v Spain.

  61. 61.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Alexi Lalas has been slamming on England for awhile now. He just did it again. I know England sucked, but is there some kind of history there? It seems kind of personal, as much as he doesn’t seem to let an opportunity pass to say how bad they are.

  62. 62.

    Mike E

    June 28, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN): Just marking them will take the Dutch out of their game–today’s match looked like a heavyweight bout where the eventual victor was waiting for a little fatigue, some loss of nerve, and then the opening that leads to a knockout blow.

  63. 63.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    June 28, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    @Violet: A history is one possibility, but I also wonder if he’s just shit-stirring. With all of the Brits that ESPN has on board to cover this, he may be hoping to get a Scottish/English brawl going.

  64. 64.

    Mike E

    June 28, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    he’s just shit-stirring

    Who, our Alexi? /snark

    After saying that Seth Blatter only wants controversy about eleventy billion times, methinks he doth protest too much. He’s giving us redheads a bad name!

  65. 65.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Has the Brazilian defense really been tested in this tournament? They haven’t met the likes of Robben, van Persie, Kuyt and Sneijder yet.

  66. 66.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    @Violet:

    He wasn’t good enough to play in England.

  67. 67.

    You Don't Say

    June 28, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    @Violet: I don’t know why Alexi does it, but I know I’d take every opportunity to rub in. ;-)

  68. 68.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    June 28, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    @Leeds man: Besides, it’s hard to overcome the Dutch intangible advantage of having the best name in the tournament: Giovanni Van Bronckhorst.

  69. 69.

    burnspbesq

    June 28, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Make a sandwich when you say that. One of the two families that founded Boar’s Head was named Bronckhorst.

  70. 70.

    Paula

    June 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Crap. There’s no contest about who’s gonna win this thing, is there?

    EDIT: On the plus side, NED-BRA is going to be entertaining. Or horrid.

  71. 71.

    frosty

    June 28, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Arghh.

    Looking at the all the green and yellow in the stands, it reminded me of nothing so much as Yankee fans in Camden Yards. So now I know who I’m rooting against for the rest of the World Cup.

    FTFY. That is all.

  72. 72.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Too bad Jan Johannes Vennegoor of Hesselink didn’t make the squad.

  73. 73.

    Wordsmith

    June 28, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Brazil vs Germany ……

  74. 74.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    @Leeds man: I think that you could make the same argument about the Netherlands as well not having had to face the likes of Kaká, Robinho, Maicon, etc.

  75. 75.

    Gozer

    June 28, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    I hope the Oranje make it through. If there’s a Holland v. Portugal final I wonder if it’ll get as hairy as 2006’s Battle of Nuremberg?

  76. 76.

    SLKRR

    June 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):
    The Dutch have a really good team this year… I think they will play well against Brazil and could win. They will certainly be the first team of any real strength that Brazil has faced in this tournament.

    Argentina x Deutschland is going to be a great game, too.

  77. 77.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @Randy Paul:

    Absolutely. I just want the Dutch to get a little joy. I saw the ’78 final, and it was a heartbreaker. ’74 was probably worse.

  78. 78.

    Violet

    June 28, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    @SLKRR:
    Yeah, I’m looking forward to these two matchups. Both promise to be exciting.

  79. 79.

    Randy Paul

    June 28, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    @Leeds man: I was living in Germany in 1974 and I was the only person I knew pulling for the Dutch. I loved Cruyff, Neeskens and company.

  80. 80.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    @Randy Paul:

    And Dennis Bergkamp is one of my favourite all-time players, despite the fact that he played for some obscure North London side.

  81. 81.

    Bill Murray

    June 28, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    @Leeds man: or was he too good. He played in Serie A when it was better than the EPL

  82. 82.

    handsmile

    June 28, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    @ Leeds Man

    I share your respect and affection for Dennis Bergkamp, a footballer of immense talent and class. After retiring from that “obscure North London side,” do you (or another reader) know if he retired entirely from football or did he seek a sheik’s ransom with a Middle Eastern club? (“Et tu, Cannavaro?”, I weep.)

  83. 83.

    NameRequired

    June 28, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    @frosty:

    Welcome to the club, the beer is in the second drawer in the fridge.

  84. 84.

    Leeds man

    June 28, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    @handsmile:

    Wikipedia says he’s training to be a coach.

  85. 85.

    frankdawg

    June 28, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Same here – but I am a very raw neophyte so I have no idea how to judge one team against another. The times I have watched I thought Brazil looked too good & the Orange just good enough. If I had to bet I’d say Brazil but I have no real clue.

    BTW – in case you have not had enough vuvuzela there is a two disk CD of the greatest hits!
    http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=50670

  86. 86.

    Cacti

    June 28, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    @frosty:

    Looking at the all the green and yellow in the stands, it reminded me of nothing so much as Yankee fans in Camden Yards. So now I know who I’m rooting against for the rest of the World Cup.

    The Yankees win a lot because they have the most money.

    In what way is Brazil similar?

  87. 87.

    frosty

    June 28, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    @Cacti: Umm. ‘Cause they’re a powerhouse team that beat the underdog guys I was rooting for? That’s how Brazil = Yankees.

  88. 88.

    Randinho

    June 28, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    @Leeds man: IIRC he was with that obscure North London side the year they went undefeated . . . :-)

  89. 89.

    Randinho

    June 28, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    @handsmile: Not likely as he has a deep fear of flying.

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