Have at it. I have no energy to do anything. Heat is sapping my will to live.
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Have at it. I have no energy to do anything. Heat is sapping my will to live.
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Hang in there.
No air conditioning, John? At least you seem to be feeling better today based on the amt you have posted. That’s a good thing.
In Phoenix we have the Summer 100/100 rule: Expect about 100 days of 100 degree weather.
We’re just tougher people out here.
Get an air conditioner.
Or, “Why I left the South.”
I’m one of those people who adjusts better to cold than hot. Heat AND humidity? My pores close, my brain swells, and and I’ve been known to put ice cubes in my shoes.
DickSpud, am I a complete fool for thinking Phoenix has great weather? I’ve never actually been but I’ve heard/read what its weather is like. Maybe I’m a just a sun-starved San Franciscan.
We have some storms nearby that are creating a cool breeze. So no complaints today.
new Hummingbird pic for those who care.
@WereBear: Grew up in MN and am the opposite: much prefer the heat to the cold—though I miss the ice sports.
@General Stuck: “new Hummingbird pic”
OK, how should one rate this on the whole upholding religio-traditional culture metric? Man Holds His Mom Hostage for Not Ironing
Does keeping the little women in their place outrank the honor thy mother commandment? Inquiring minds wish to learn.
Seems to be vaguely on-topic or at least in-theme to the thread with all the various sources of heat in it anyway.
Actually, we do, from October until April, have the most pleasant weather you can find.
And the summer Hundreds are only really uncomfortable during the monsoon period, typically July and August. When the humidity is low (dew points 35 F and below) the heat is really easy to take. And the nights are balmy. During the monsoon, it stays hot around the clock and it does get on your nerves. That’s what Mojitos were invented for ….
Good air conditioning and the principle of APS takes care of the dog days. APS = Always Park in Shade.
There’s a supermarket here that has a free underground and air cooled parking garage that is the best kept secret in Arizona. And it always has empty spaces, even on the hottest day of the year. For a fee, I will tell you where it is.
@scav: Oh, a conservative ethical dilemma! I say they side with the son, not because gender trumps respect for age, but because of the gun. Have to respect the second amendment and the right to brandishing the gun above all else.
Balmy 58 degrees here.
Oh, I have full air- just I ran it so much I got an astronomical bill so now am only running it when it is super hot. But that isn’t the problem. The problem is I like being outside in the summer, and I can’t air condition that.
Hottest day so far today. 83°. 89° tomorrow. 90° Friday.
Bleh. I threw snowballs at Rainy Pass just Saturday. Do not want heat.
I was for the heat before I was against it.
@MikeJ: Sux here today. Temperature is up to 88, will get to 90 tomorrow. Fortunately, am going to spend weekend in the Cascades, where the weather will be more reasonable. (Except for the pilgrimage to Hanford. That’s going to be beautiful…but very, very hot.)
@John Cole: water, water, water. That’s all you can really do. Water and maybe wearing visors or baseball caps when you can.
As a dude, you at least have the advantage of being able to go shirtless or the wet t-shirt route. Us women, all we can really do is wear “skimpier” clothing, but there is only so much skimpy we can do without being jailed for indecency….
Water, water, water
Heat is why the future Mrs. Hueco and I are planning to leave Texas and head to New Mexico. I think it was only 77 in Santa Fe today.
The general rule is 5 degrees F per thousand feet of elevation.
Must be a radioactive Xtian sect I haven’t heard of.
We had a lovely July 4 weekend in my part of Georgia. Lows in the 60s, highs in the upper 80s, light breeze, low humidity. We’re now back to regularly scheduled summer weather–92 degrees, 75% humidity. But it’s freaky to know that it’s cooler down here than it is in the northeast.
Heat = garden FAIL. OTOH, everyone else’s lawn is brown too – flowering bushes and flowers are on life support if not DOA, and I’ve resorted to focusing on 2 or 3 pots to keep hope alive. Cats have become cat-shaped puddles, and I’ve completely and totally given up on my hair. Also.
Used to live there, and spent last week there. Good plan. Perfect weather, especially when it rains, because there’s a rainbow. every. time.
“We’re just tougher people out here.
Get an air conditioner.”
Air conditioners make you tougher?
My experience is that digging ditches in dry CA 100 plus heat more comfortable that ambling along in 90 degree eastern high humidity. And compared to others, I am extremely tolerant of 90 degree high humidity weather. But they do tucker one out. Except in New Orleans, where one can amble with a icy cooling drink until you are so snoggered nothing much bothers you, though I guess the booze is not good for you in the heat if you are not healthy.
Good luck to people back east.
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: Where? I’ve lived here 40 years and have never heard of it. That really is a well kept secret!
I can’t help but snicker when people talk about the unbearable 90-degree heat.
Here in Phoenix, we’ve had our coolest day in the past two weeks today…
Especially when yours breaks in July and you have to cough up 4 grand to replace it. Builds character.
But.. it’s a dry heat! ;-D
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: My bad. That is tough!
Please refer to the word “fee” in my earlier post ……
Of course, we can barter for anything of value.
Do you have any good darkroom equipment? Native American rugs? Etc.
I have friends in Scottsdale calling bullshit on this one. Of course they’ve only been there 6 months, but they’re explorers.
Just Some Fuckhead
It was a hundred degrees here today but I still go outside to nurture my farmer’s tan.
…and this is why all the idiots who said “Oh look it’s snowing in January it means there’s no global warming” need to die of heat stroke this week. That oughta learn ’em.
AZ people are wusses. Where I grew up in CA, I dug ditches uphill to summer school and back every day in 105 degree heat. Through earthquakes. And brush fires.
Bill E Pilgrim
No comparison. John lives in humid land, like most of the country anywhere but the West, and it’s totally different. I grew up in the West with dry heat and it can be 105 and I’m basically fine, but in somewhere like New York or DC it reaches 80 and I’m at my limit and go looking for air conditioning.
Horrible weather really, you wonder why anyone settled there. Yurp is mostly pretty dry by comparison.
Seriously? Are you talking about the parking garage?
I have been using it for 20 years.
Put your money where your mouth is. $1000 says it is exactly as I described.
@John Cole: John – we had the full heating and air thingy and I was paying to heat and cool a 3 bed 2 bath house when we only use three rooms. When it broke this winter I said sod it, and bought a couple of space heaters for the living room and the bedroom and we made full use of the fireplace. Worked like a charm. My electric bill went from $400.00 a month to $96.00. We enjoyed the Spring and when the heat arrived we bought a couple of window a/c units one for the great room and one for the bedroom. They keep the house nice and cool and my bill is still only $144.00 a month. I have just added a unit into the kitchen, only used when I am cooking. For conservation as well as fiscal reasons I really cannot see heating and cooling an entire house (as well as all the ducts in the walls and attic) when it is only me and the DH for 11 months a year. (I will get another window unit for the guest bedroom when mother arrives for her month long visit in September). It is something to think about.
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: Old Native American pottery perhaps. . . need to check with my husband first. He may already know where it is though.
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Oh, I agree. The worst summer I ever spent was on the Eastern Seaboard, Washington, Baltimore, Philly, New York, Boston …. suffocating heat and humidity. I was glad to get back to Phoenix.
But we really prefer that people think it is too hot here, it keeps them from moving here and choking up our roads.
South of I-10
@John Cole: We have a couple of these fans outside and one of these. They make a huge difference if you are going to spend any time outside in the heat. Drink lots of water and slow down. It’s too damn hot to be moving that fast! It’s actually been cooler here, we are getting lots of rain.
They just wanna know so they can know the value of APS too!
FWIW, it’s 80 deg here and 90% humidity. I wish I were in AZ now. I’d prefer 110 deg and low humidity, this sucks.
Yes, “complete fool” covers it. Nobody should have to endure Phoenix between May and, say, the first of October. Perversely, they get rain during their hottest months–the infamous monsoons. Absolute lunacy.
You want heat? Drive sixty miles west, spend the day in the valley and drive back home. SF will seem mighty nice then!
PS) air conditioning the outside = hose with a sprinkler attachment. It cools you down and its great fun! (and its okay for the ladies so long as they are wearing a bra)
Bill E Pilgrim
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: Oh sorry I should have realized.
We did the same thing in San Francisco. People always remark about how cold it is and quote some Mark Twain line and we would say right, true, oh my yes, horrible, and not tell them that this only applies to the tiny part known as the actual city of San Francisco and a few miles in any direction it’s the warmest most perfect weather ever invented, so fewer of them would decide to stay.
Er, I mean no it’s not. Damn I’m slipping.
NB: Good luck with scaring them off by the way, as you can see in the case of San Francisco, it didn’t work.
South of I-10
@Just Some Fuckhead: I admire your courage in the face of adversity.
I grew up in the midwest and southeast, and I’ll take 90 and humid over 115 and dry all day long and twice on Sunday.
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Lived in the Bay Area twice and loved it both times. San Jose first, and then San Bruno. Crystal Springs, to be exact. One of the foggiest and chilliest spots on the peninsula. Just loved it.
Of course a night game in July at Candelstick …. argggh. That is a chilling experience. But go two miles away and you’re fine.
Have you tried the 3 fan system? Have two fans blowing air in and one fan blowing out. That way you have air constantly flowing through the house. Having the exhaust fan is important so don’t leave that out. Believe it or not it does a decent job of coolign the house. When I was a kid I used to read all these science books and project stuff and was reading this particular tip and set it up at home (I was like 12 or something) when it was like 115 dry heat in Indiana and damn me it worked.
My old house had a bunch of trees over it and it keeps the house fairly cool.. a natural heat shield. My other house, not so much although it is our first summer in it.. but we are 500 ft above sea level so it tends to be a tad cooler up there.
I think your state legislature and governor are taking a different approach to that problem
We are having some wacky heat wave going on right now.. holy moses.
Bill E Pilgrim
Improvised AC: Big fan blowing right on you and have a spray bottle at hand, like you’d use for plants or ironing. One spritz directly into the fan which all flies back at you and cools you off immediately. Last week it was in the 90s here and at 96 I finally broke it out, spraying every few seconds at one point there. Man does it work.
I am the master at finding and parking in shade. Also planning all car excursions for a time of day that provides good shade … before 10 am or after 2 pm. Know your sun angles. At high noon in a bare parking lot you are screwed, but I don’t patronize those places much.
One of my favorite peeves is the idiots who decide to cut back their trees right at the beginning of the hot season, and get rid of the shade in the hot part of the summer. Those places go on my “No Fly Zone” list, I just won’t do business there.
With shade, a good car ac, and some planning, you can breeze through the dog days here and never feel much of anything. If you want to. I also did summers here in a Jeep with no top and no air, and did quite well.
103 in the Philly area today.
I think the sun is only a yard out from my head.
Jan Brewer has turned into a complete asshole.
@Cacti: When it gets to 100 or near, what the dry heat does is evaporate sweat before it has time to do it’s work to cool you off. I miss the sweat on those days. The thing I didn’t like about high humidity is the effect on breathing, and allergies. They were much worse for me living back east, where I have very little problem with them here in the SW. It’s a tough call, but I choose the dry heat for the easier breathing. Though the body effect in 100 degree dry heat is worse, imo.
Bill E Pilgrim
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: Definitely. On the other hand the first games I saw there as a small kid, Willie Mays, McCovey, the Alou brothers and Orlando Cepeda were still in the lineup. I even remember the batting order.
@Cain: This is pretty bad, but it is only a couple days. Summer of 1995 was brutal. I was in Baltimore working at Camden Yards and we had 24 straight days of 90 degree weather. Luckily my apt building had a pool on the roof that we could sneak into to cool off after games.
(EDIT: A great suggestion if spending a bunch of time in the summer heat is to carry a small towel with you which you can moisten and then leave on yuor head/neck to cool you down. This is especially useful for sporting events and concerts)
“Turned into” would indicate that she wasn’t one in the first place.
She did manage to turn Arizona into a national laughingstock in less than two years though.
@Bill E Pilgrim:
Oh boy. Ron Hunt. Jim Ray Hart. Marichal and Perry. Russ Hodges and Lon Simmons on the radio. Best baseball fan days ever. Those Giants were an awesome team.
My personal downside for the dry air of the desert is, I’ve had a damn nosebleed from practically the day I arrived in Arizona.
@Matt Mangels: I once traveled from Phoenix to San Francisco for a wedding. It was an interesting trip. I flew out from Southern California where the weather was fairly nice. In Phoenix, I experienced my first desert monsoon (and the preceding humidity from hell) during an out door concert. The next morning, we flew up to SF. When we got on the plane, it was over 100 degrees in Phoenix. When we landed in SF, it was about 54 degrees. That was a shock.
I had to help move our college senior daughter to a new apartment in Austin today. She moved from a 3rd floor apartment to a 1st floor place. I’m used to working very hard outside on our farm in central Texas, no matter the weather or the task. But there’s just something especially punishing on a day like today about inhaling asphalt fumes and repeatedly climbing stairs.
She’s put her run for the governor’s job (she is not an elected governor) ahead of the people as far as I am concerned. Playing the political odds just as McCain is doing. Sickening.
You can always tell the out of towners here. They say things like “My hair is catching on fire.”
Hey, it grows back.
Well, it used to.
@Cacti: You should have stopped in New Mexico. Everything is enchantment with cosmic vibes and nose bleeds never happen.:)
72 degrees in Long Beach today, overcast most of the day; even got a bit of rain this morning.
And now: EARTHQUAKE!
I wonder if Inhofe is building any igloos?
@KG: Feh. A mere 5.4.
@Cain: Have you tried lighting a fire in the fireplace? Hot air rises, draws more air into the house. Probably better if your fireplace is in a room you don’t use a lot.
I grew up in Houston, and had the great good fortune of hunting and playing as a young boy on 2500 acres in West Texas.
We’d build stands and repair wells and mend fences and all kinds of shit during the summer before the hunting season.
A typical day? Oh, about 118.
And I’d laugh at that shit compared to a 99 degree day in Houston. Just laugh at it.
Yeah, you couldn’t touch metal with your bare hand, but you could breathe and work and if you covered your head and had water with you it was awesome to be out in the hot rocky desert.
Now my dad lives south of Tucson. Same shit there.
Nothing compared to a humid heat like Houston.
@Corner Stone: Yeah, I went to college in Central Arkansas.
I had the sense to move away.
Sunday evening I had to stop myself from turning the heat on because, chilly or not, one doesn’t turn the heat on in July. Now they’re forecasting temps in the high 80s to mid-90s. Summer has begun. I miss the rain already.
We felt it up here in the Valley, too. People who were standing or walking didn’t feel a thing, but those of us who were sitting at our desks definitely felt it. Probably about a 2.5 by the time it got up to us.
Has anyone read this rant in the Sun Times? It’s bizarre. It reminds me of the glibertarians hating A Christmas Carol because of the changes in Scrooge.
Alternate universes: Not just a theory anymore.
I think down there they call it Arkansas Liberation Day.
Obviously, I’m not that bright.
Me, too. It was the winters that chased me out of Chicago and out to sunny southern California. 80 below with the wind chill? No. Thank. You. If it’s too hot outside, I can turn on the air conditioning, but I would spend months in Chicago feeling like I would never be warm again.
So, if I give something away out of generosity, it means that I think it’s free?
( shakes head )
It’s like trying to explain baseball to a basset hound.
So much for the reality based community.
Soaked, dripping, underwear stuck to your buttcrack …. versus none of the above.
A dry 115 degree day lets you sit by the pool in the shade and not even break a sweat. Keep your swamp. Yuck.
Mmm…I like pie.
5.4 in Borrego Springs.
I have too much respect for myself and my neighbors to let my fat ass go shirtless in public.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Bill E Pilgrim:
My dad likes to say that if the Pilgrims had landed in Los Angeles, everything east of the Rockies would still be a wilderness.
One does, if one is in San Francisco in July. I turned ours on last week. I miss San Diego (my hometown).
And I was in an actual desert where it got into the 130’s. I will take 120 degrees any single day of the week over 95 degrees and the kind of humidity we have. Some days I think I need a snorkel or spoon to walk outside.
Yeah, it’s recently turned into “Stay inside whenever the sun is out” temperature in Austin. Which I think I’ll do quite happily.
You must not be much of a sweater to begin with. I’m pretty much dripping wet the instant I walk out into any kind of heat, whether it’s dry or humid.
@Mnemosyne: DickSpud is more of a fleecie than a sweater, i think.
What kind of funny is that we are having 90 degree days with like 65% humidity, and I’m okay; not lovin’ it, but okay.
But the people around me are doing the dude who fell off the camel in Lawrence of Arabia.
I guess getting used to negative 40 winters means you give up the heat tolerance.
I keep reading British knitting magazines and getting confused whenever they start talking about the new “jumper” they’re working on. Separated by a common language, we are.
I don’t perspire, I glow.
just curious is that you spud? You know dethspud?
I am just a figment.
@Mnemosyne: “mummy have you seen my jumper?” “Yes dear it was on the cat” best line in the Harry Potter movies ever.
@DickSpudCouchPotatoDetective: Yup its you, missed ya pal.
Compared to that rant? That’s anti-basset hound.
I’ve been watching the shake maps on and off for that area for a few years. Something’s happening there. What it is ain’t exactly clear.
Hey, I’ve had a Basset. But I wouldn’t read the Sporting News to him.
Dozens of earthquakes in the past week. So. California citizens: Remain calm. Nothing to see here. Look! Lindsay Lohan!
A neckerchief full of ice cubes is your friend (or, if you can find it, the high-tech equivalent with the evaporative crystals that you soak). Cooling the important blood vessels that run thru your neck really does help. Also, a really absorbant sweatband under a brimmed hat or cap — I used to have a terrycloth baseball cap that I soaked before going out & gardening, but I’ve found that just soaking up the sweat before it runs into my eyes & soaks my hair works just as well. If it’s too far from your garden to take breaks in the air conditioning, a spray bottle you can use to ‘mist’ your bare arms & legs is also very pleasant…
Is there a man with a gun over there?
@Cat Lady: Actually, there probably is nothing to see there. Foreshocks are predictive for certain kinds of faults, yes, but not for strike-slip faults such as are found in California. You’re more likely to be experiencing an earthquake swarm.
@John Cole: Your ass shouldn’t be the thing wearing your shirt or you’re doing it wrong.
I am such a WATB when it comes to the heat. I start whimpering when it’s over seventy. We are in the mid-eighties here, and I am a wreck. I have the air set at eighty, though (which means roughly eighty-five outside), so I use a fan. Give me twenty below with three feet of snow ANY DAY over this.
In other words, no southern states for me, even if there weren’t other reasons I wouldn’t live in the south.
Sure, I’ve done it plenty of times. It’s more effective in the summer than in the winter. So I only try to do it in the summer now.