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I wish this daughter of a prominent, mean-spirited, vindictive and painfully hypocritical Republican politician no ill will. I knew kids who shoplifted where it was a way of acting out/cry for help and if this is the case here, I hope this young woman gets the help she needs. Anyway, the reaction of the store employees is no surprise:

The daughter of New York’s toughest-talking, law-and-order mayor was arrested for petty larceny and hauled out of the store in handcuffs. She was taken to the 19th Precinct stationhouse, where she was expected to be issued a desk appearance ticket.

Once store employees learned who the suspect’s father is, they told cops they didn’t want to press charges, a source said.

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  1. 1.

    PaulW

    what the hell are they afraid of? Rudy didn’t break above 5th place in the 2008 primaries!!! HE SUCKS! Throw his daughter in jail.

  2. 2.

    Nellcote

    Once store employees learned who the suspect’s father is, they told cops they didn’t want to press charges, a source said.

    I don’t belive his anonymous source.

  3. 3.

    beltane

    Very kind of the store employees, especially since Giuliani was not known to every show mercy towards petty criminals himself.

  4. 4.

    burnspbesq

    Rudy’s kids are a case study in something. His son was thrown off his college golf team in circumstances that nobody knowledgeable will talk about on the record, and now this.

  5. 5.

    Anya

    DougJ, I feel that highlighting this story at BJ is not kosher. Ms. Giuliani is a young lady who made a stupid mistake and she deserves her anonymity, like many young and old people like her who are caught daily doing the same thing. If she had a different last name, we would not be talking about her.

  7. 7.

    burnspbesq

    Completely off topic, but the new Los Lobos record is all that. Might be their best since “Kiko.” The boys are back.

  9. 9.

    New Yorker

    I dunno. After Rudy joined the Palin-Gingrich circus against the community center in lower Manhattan, I can’t help but do a childish point-the-finger-and-laugh thing.

    I doubt either of Bloomberg’s daughters would ever be caught in such a situation.

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Anya:

    If she had a different last name, we would not be talking about her.

    and if she had a different last name, and/or especially a different color skin, charges wouldn’t have been dropped.
    But I do get what you’re saying. Maybe DougJ could make like the gossip columns and refer to her as “the daughter of a prominent, mean-spirited, vindictive and painfully hypocritical Republican politician”.

  11. 11.

    DougJ

    @Anya:

    I see your point and I thought about not posting it for that reason. But I think that it is worth highlighting the double standard here, which is why I decided to post it.

  14. 14.

    Anya

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I get what you’re saying about the color of our justice system but that’s not her doing. Also, it’s not her fault that she has a mean spirited asshole for a father. I don’t think they’re particularly close. Not surprising, considering how he humiliated her mother.

    You’re blind item works for me. DougJ, take a note. But I do get the larger point and the reason, you posted.

  15. 15.

    New Yorker

    Just to clarify the above, I’d point and laugh at Rudy, not at his daughter. Anyone born to such a sociopath is liable to be completely messed up and need professional help.

  17. 17.

    Lev

    Isn’t she the one who was outed as an Obama supporter on Facebook?

    She should have to pay her fine like everyone else, but having Rudy as a dad has to be, I don’t know, the worst thing ever. I’d rather have Ray Liotta’s dad from GoodFellas as my father.

  18. 18.

    DougJ

    @New Yorker:

    My feelings exactly.

    Also too, there are plenty of kids born to sociopaths who store employees aren’t afraid of. I feel bad for them too.

  20. 20.

    burnspbesq

    Sigh. Pat Robertson’s pet “public interest law firm,” the American Center for Law and Justice, is suing to overturn the Landmarks Commission decision that paved the way for the construction of the Cordoba center in lower Manhattan.

    Fuckery most foul.

  24. 24.

    Anya

    OT, I am very busy these days ( have a new boss, who’s a poster child for micro-managing petty boss) so I don’t get to comment as much as I like but I have not seen anyone comment on David Sirota’s ridiculous diary at GOS. He is the worst of the firebaggers. Why do they have to talk about progressives as a battered partner and Obama as their abusive spouse?

  27. 27.

    beltane

    @burnspbesq: Why don’t they just pray for the mosque not to be built? They’re always telling us that the Lord is all-powerful and that filing lawsuits is sosha-list, un-American behavior.

  29. 29.

    West of the Cascades

    @DougJ: This is one of those great posts that works out its meaning through the comments … one doesn’t want to dump on a 20 y-o kid who needs help, but the incident illustrates a lot of things that are wrong with the way we (and the police, and shop employees) respond to incidents like this. No question without her name she’d have been prosecuted. And its absolutely correct to call BS on her dad, who is a sociopath — his statement as an “update” on that Daily News article that is linked to says that “this is a private matter and [we ask that the family’s privacy be respected.” As if the dad ever extended that courtesy to anyone arrested, or shot for reaching for a wallet, during his administration? The hypocrisy is overwhelming, which is why the post was necessary — but the sensitivity and nuance that comes out in the comments is what makes this blog so worthwhile.

  30. 30.

    DougJ

    @West of the Cascades:

    Yes, I was happy to see Anya pop in and say “hey don’t dump on the kid”. I wasn’t trying to, of course, but it’s great to have a commentariat that is sensitive to that.

  31. 31.

    AxelFoley

    @Anya:

    DougJ, I feel that highlighting this story at BJ is not kosher. Ms. Giuliani is a young lady who made a stupid mistake and she deserves her anonymity, like many young and old people like her who are caught daily doing the same thing. If she had a different last name, we would not be talking about her.

    If she had a different last name, her ass would be locked up right now.

  32. 32.

    DougJ

    @Anya:

    There’s no point in reading David Sirota. He’s consistently awful. I wrote at a blog of Sirota-ites once upon a time so I can’t even bear to read the stuff.

  33. 33.

    Ailuridae

    @Anya:

    OT, I am very busy these days ( have a new boss, who’s a poster child for micro-managing petty boss) so I don’t get to comment as much as I like but I have not seen anyone comment on David Sirota’s ridiculous diary at GOS. He is the worst of the firebaggers. Why do they have to talk about progressives as a battered partner and Obama as their abusive spouse?

    Actually that’s not OT at all because Sirota’s fundamental problem is that he is petulant spawn of the privileged much like Guiliani’s daughter. That he once tried to accuse Nate Silver of the same speaks volumes about his own self-awareness. Sirota’s diary is beyond the pale in a lot of regards but his complete ignorance of history is astounding. Then, once he is corrected, instead of admitting his ignorance and apologizing he moves the goalposts.

    On the topic of the thread …. Normally I would tend to agree with the class/race angle that it wasn’t Giuliani’s fame that scared the retailer but a different set of rules for rich white kids here I don’t see how that’s the case. She was taken to the precinct in cuffs and then the store decided not to pursue matters. So this wasn’t just a Choat thing but a Giuliani thing.

  36. 36.

    mclaren

    Since failure among America’s elite always leads to promotion and success and wealth, counting down to seeing Giulini’s shoplifting daughter installed as newly-appointed $150,000-a-year head of a presitigious presidential commission on white collar crime in…3…2…1…

  38. 38.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @mclaren: Nah, Meghan McCain will take her to lunch and explain how to get on the RightWing Celebutante publishing racket.

  39. 39.

    Yutsano

    @Steeplejack: Ahh you’re letting him off easy. I’d pin him to the wall and scream in his face, “YOU WILL RESPECT MY DROID!!” But then again things might go downhill from there.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Whatever else may be true Meghan is not a rabid fire-breather Republican. Hell I think she says half of what she says because of her father, I’m not sure how much of the standard party line she swallows.

    (note to self: comments need more double entendres)

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack

    @Yutsano:

    On this blog, things almost always go downhill from anywhere.

    How are you enjoying your time off? Or are you preoccupied with packing/moving? And were there any epiphanal moments in your last days at the old job? Inquiring minds want to know.

  42. 42.

    General Stuck

    @eemom: I read that earlier today and fully agree. Some of the best writing I have seen ever. Honest and humbled, but not in a maudlin way. I doubt I could write something like that with such a grim diagnosis. He doesn’t have long and knows it. It made me feel for the guy that I have never liked very much.

  43. 43.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Yutsano: True, and I do give her and her mother a great deal of credit for appearing in those anti-prop-8 ads, but she can be very nastily partisan, and she oozes a sense of entitlement that would embarrass a Bush. Her (apparent) lack of self-awareness wrt her privileged upbringing, and apparently sincere belief that she owes her writing career to something besides her last name grates.

  45. 45.

    Yutsano

    @Steeplejack: Heh. They all laid it on thick my last day. Granted I had opened the center and was one of the originals, but several others have left before me and none of them got their own cake and cards and hugs and stuff. My supe asked me if I still wanted to do this. I paused for a second, then went, “YUP!!” Then I logged off, sent my very last time card, and I was gone. Only been back once to get my paycheck.

    I’ve found a place I’m pretty sure, so now just finalizing some stuff here before The Big Move. I may even have the commute figured out (there’s a transit station very close where I can park that has a direct line right to my work) so really I just need to set up a few more details and I’ll be over there hopefully around August 20th.

  47. 47.

    Steeplejack

    @Yutsano:

    Make sure you take some time off and just chill before starting the new job. That “empty time” can be extremely valuable.

  48. 48.

    Yutsano

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Violet: Picture it: Jenna and Meghan with their own talk show. You know it’s coming, they’re both laying the groundwork for it. It’s just a matter of time before their underlings they put in the work to make it happen.

    @Steeplejack: Job doesn’t start until September 13th. And I was a total slug today even though there was shit I needed to get done. Right now I’m just choosing to indulge in chocolate milk and blueberries. Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.

  49. 49.

    Anya

    True, and I do give her and her mother a great deal of credit for appearing in those anti-prop-8 ads, but she can be very nastily partisan, and she oozes a sense of entitlement that would embarrass a Bush.

    I think the younger Barbara Bush is sensible and so far I do not see a sense of entitlement. But I cannot stand Meghan McCain. She’s a self-absorbed twit.

  50. 50.

    Mark S.

    @burnspbesq:

    What the fuck are they going to argue? The building is a historical landmark and must be preserved? They’ll be laughed out of court.

  52. 52.

    Stillwater

    @Anya: [Sirota’s] awfulness shoks me all the time. Somehow, each post of his gets progressively worse.

    Is this a new definition of ‘progressive’? If so, it might settle some lingering disputes on this site.

  53. 53.

    Ailuridae

    I think it is a pretty safe bet that the election following either

    1) her father’s death
    2) her father’s removal from the Senate

    McCain will no longer be a Republican. As it is she’s basically as removed from her party’s core stances on issues as Ben Nelson is and she’s probably to the left of about 1/5 of the Democratic caucus in the Senate.

  55. 55.

    Nick

    @Anya:

    I have not seen anyone comment on David Sirota’s ridiculous diary at GOS.

    Who cares with Sirota says, every few weeks he writes some diary trying to start a pie fight. Who takes him seriously?

  56. 56.

    Jager

    @burnspbesq:

    New Yorkers will love that, Pat Robertson’s pet law firm, uh-fucking-huh, what was the George Carlin bit about a wildfire consuming the entire country, when it got to the Hudson River, New Yorkers flipped the fire the bird and told it to fuck off…it stopped.

  57. 57.

    burnspbesq

    @Ailuridae:

    She was taken to the precinct in cuffs

    Which is ironic. Prior to Rudy’s tenure as US Attorney for the Southern District, people being arrested for non-violent, white-collar crimes were typically allowed to surrender voluntarily and come into Foley Square by means other than the front door, in order to save them embarrassment and keep photos that might taint the jury pool off the front pages of the tabloids. It was Rudy who pioneered the Wall Street perp walk that so many around here would like to see more of. Politically ambitious US Attorneys are very much a mixed blessing. See also, e.g., the current Guv of Jersey.

  58. 58.

    Steeplejack

    @Yutsano:

    Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.

    Hey, I’m sucking down champagne and dark chocolate. You’ll get no criticism from me.

  60. 60.

    burnspbesq

    @Mark S.:

    Hopefully the Landmarks Commission did its job the right way and developed a bullet-proof factual record. But if they didn’t, the way this stuff normally works is that the court will remand to the agency with instructions to do it right the next time, the agency will comply, and the second determination will be bullet-proof fo shizzle.

    It’s just legal time-wasting to buy time to create some sort of astroturf groundswell. I have every confidence that the fine people of New York won’t fall for it. Although any city that roots for the Knicks …

  62. 62.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Sweet Mother of Fuck. I just found this story via Booman

    Kathryn Chapman took a trip to the annual Our Lady of Mount Carmel Big Time celebration last weekend, and she was shocked to see a shooting game with President Barack Obama as the target.
    “I just can’t believe how far things have come that now on church property you can shoot the president and get a prize if you hit him in the head or heart,” said Chapman, a Medford, Mass., resident who last lived in Roseto the year President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. She was in town for a family reunion.

    At a fucking Church carnival.

  63. 63.

    Mark S.

    I know you’ve all been waiting for GayPatriot’s take on the ruling today, so here it goes. Mr Patriot is worried “this decision will further divide the nation on gay marriage and embolden social conservatives,” but let’s get to the legal analysis:

    The judge cites the constitution, holding that “Due process protects individuals against arbitrary government intrusion into life, liberty or property.” Agreed, but he cites a court case not the legislative arguments in favor of amending the constitution to include what would be the 14th Amendment (wherein we get the due process clause.

    There was some static on the line, so that did come through very clearly. But let’s get to the coup de grace:

    Then, the judge, goes on to say that the “right to marry” is fundamental. Yeah, but has he read the actual text of Prop 8? It doesn’t addressed the “right to marry,” but what marriages the state recognizes.

    There you go. Game, set, and match.

  66. 66.

    burnspbesq

    @MoeLarryAndJesus:

    Not easy being on the men’s golf team at Duke. The women’s team is a fucking dynasty (Dan Brooks has won more NCAA championships than Mike Krzyzewski), and the men are typically mediocre to putrid.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    @burnspbesq: You’ve gone to caveman speech. I think you’re too far gone now.

    BTW is it a bad sign when one of the big things you’re looking forward to is the inside conversations among your new co-workers? I can only imagine the story swapping that’s about to happen in the new gig. Plus I found out yesterday one of my Senators has an office in the building a few floors up from where I am!

  69. 69.

    Dr. Morpheus

    @Anya:

    OT, I am very busy these days ( have a new boss, who’s a poster child for micro-managing petty boss) so I don’t get to comment as much as I like but I have not seen anyone comment on David Sirota’s ridiculous diary at GOS. He is the worst of the firebaggers. Why do they have to talk about progressives as a battered partner and Obama as their abusive spouse?

    Ask Corner Stone, he seems to wear that mantle around here.

  72. 72.

    Corner Stone

    @Dr. Morpheus:

    Ask Corner Stone, he seems to wear that mantle around here.

    I may be petty but the last thing anyone could call me is a micro manager.

  74. 74.

    Yutsano

    @Martin: I wasn’t gonna go there, but, y’know, Dubya and Yale. Lots of kids are in Harvard exclusively by legacy. They do try to diversify their population, but big donors always have a slot for their kids regardless of how much they fuck up.

  75. 75.

    burnspbesq

    @Yutsano:

    Don’t know if you saw the announcement that came out today about the redeployment of Exam resources. LMSB is becoming LB&I (or something like that), and getting a shit-ton of new headcount, primarily directed at international compliance and examination of international issues. That’s the growth area in the Service for the foreseeable future.

  77. 77.

    asiangrrlMN

    Hm. Not much to say about this except it really must suck to be the daughter of Guiliani. It does sound like a rather-expensive cry for help to me, but I, too, am cognizant that if she were a black male, the chances of her not being thrown in jail are slim and none.

  78. 78.

    Yutsano

    @burnspbesq: I’m intrigued and cringing at the same time. I’m also very seriously considering brushing up on my Japanese now. Even when their economy is in the toilet they’re still a major economic force in the world. Either that or German and French, more likely German as I could whip that into shape faster.

    Plus I just got fingered yesterday, so the big news stuff isn’t percolating down to me yet. It doesn’t bother me as this was one of my primary reasons for jumping ship in the first place: I wanted a career dammit.

  79. 79.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Yutsano: Um, you might want to rephrase that last bit, dear. You got fingered yesterday?

    And, a bone to pick with you from a prior thread. Some women do not find money and/or power to be an aphrodisiac at all–you fake-married one–so plz to qualify in the future. Kthxbai.

  80. 80.

    burnspbesq

    @Yutsano:

    Robert Rodriguez was a revenue agent in El Centro, California who got caught taking bribes from taxpayers to compromise audits. As a condition of getting a decent sentencing recommendation (he ended up getting 15 years, but it could have been much, much worse under the sentencing guidelines, because the tax loss was humongous), he agreed to make a training video.

  81. 81.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: Well okay fingerPRINTED, but that doesn’t sound as interesting or intriguing. And yeah I did kind of mea culpa there. I should have mentioned that women willing to marry Rush are such creatures. I even got a h/t to FH #1 in there.

    Speaking of creatures…he’s working himself to death again isn’t he?

    @burnspbesq: Okay so not THAT Robert Rodriguez. I was wondering.

  82. 82.

    eco2geek

    @MoeLarryAndJesus: People who sue their son’s college golf team because their son got kicked off have some fucked up priorities, too much money, or both.

    “This has been heartbreaking,” Giuliani’s mother, Donna Hangover Hanover, said in a statement. “We tried for many months to convince members of the Duke administration that this situation should be corrected and we are sad that we have now had to turn to the court.”

    Heartbreaking indeed.

  83. 83.

    burnspbesq

    @Yutsano:

    From tomorrow’s Tax Notes Today:

    The IRS announced August 4 that the Large and Midsize Business Division will be renamed the Large Business and International Division to reflect a realignment undertaken to enhance international tax administration.

    The central purpose of the reorganization is to give the international program a boost in administering the international tax laws, including the new Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act provisions of the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (P.L. 111-147), the IRS explained. Approximately 875 current LMSB employees who specialize in international issues within the industry divisions of LMSB will be rededicated to the international unit, more than doubling the international staff, according to the announcement. (For IR-2010-88, see Doc 2010-17403 2010 TNT 150-11: IRS News Releases .)

    Michael Danilack, the current deputy commissioner (international) of the division, will lead the realigned international unit. In a conference call about the change, Danilack said he hopes the realignment will enable the IRS to focus its “resources more strategically on the high-risk areas.”

    Danilack said that approximately 400 of the staff of nearly 600 who have been working in LMSB’s international program have been focused on offshore compliance, “which right now is mainly addressing individuals who have investments overseas,” including cases coming in through the IRS’s voluntary disclosure program for unreported foreign accounts. He clarified that the Global High-Wealth Industry unit, which has not been realigned as part of this effort, “is not engaged in that offshore compliance activity.”

    LMSB Commissioner Heather Maloy explained on the conference call that the realignment is not a change in the number of people devoted to international issues, saying, “The idea is to bring them all together.” But she added that in general, no employees will be physically moving as a result of the realignment. “When the international examiners, for example, were housed in the industries where they have been to date, they worked on the cases in their industry, not across the whole organization,” she said.

    Barry Shott, former deputy commissioner (international) for LMSB and the former U.S. competent authority, praised the announcement. “It’s a big move for the Service. I think it’s going to change a lot,” Shott told Tax Analysts. Shott, now a managing director in the tax controversy and dispute resolution practice in PricewaterhouseCoopers’s Washington National Tax Services group, explained that after the IRS Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998, the international examiners were placed under the responsibility of the industry directors, of which there are currently six. He said that placement meant that “there wasn’t one line-of-sight into what was happening,” and, as deputy commissioner, he couldn’t see every case that was important.

    This reorganization will remedy that situation, Shott said. Under the new regime, the IRS can better focus its international resources in terms of staffing cases and pursuing issues. “These resources will now be reporting to the deputy commissioner (international) through the chain of command,” he said. “It will ensure greater consistency in what’s examined, how it’s examined, and what the result of the examination is going to be.”

    Larry R. Langdon, former LMSB commissioner, told Tax Analysts that the move was “very consistent” with IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman’s view that more emphasis needs to be placed on international issues and that more resources need to be devoted to international tax administration.

    Langdon, now a partner at Mayer Brown LLP, called the increased international focus “a very good thing,” but said that apart from moving the advanced pricing agreement program out of the chief counsel’s office and into LMSB, and having all of the international examiners and economists reporting to Danilack, the realignment may be more a “changing of labels rather than a changing of people’s roles.”

    The revamped international unit is expected to place a greater emphasis on transfer pricing, and will include a transfer pricing director and chief economist at the executive level. “One of the most significant challenges the Service faces today in international is obviously transfer pricing and you’re seeing many, many more transfer pricing cases in LMSB,” Shott said.

    “The Service tried to deal with these issues and revenue agents oftentimes didn’t have the leadership and the guidance they needed by someone who understood very clearly what the risks were for taxpayers and what the risks were for tax administrators,” Shott explained. Langdon agreed that the addition of a director-level person to focus on transfer pricing and an economist at the executive level will be very important and will allow for increased monitoring and coordination of transfer pricing issues.

    Maloy noted that the realignment has been taking place over the last 18 months. “This is a step in a longer process of planned steps,” Shott said, adding that under appropriations measures working their way through Congress, IRS enforcement programs will likely receive an increase in funding for fiscal year 2011. “The Service will continue to hire people for activities throughout the Service on international issues,” he said.

  85. 85.

    Yutsano

    @burnspbesq: Intriguing. I shall haz to keep an ear to the ground since I’ll be living in a city with a large international business presence. But even if I just end up working with Canadians (even before it was legal I wanted to get married there) I’ll be happy there as well.

    @asiangrrlMN: Donna Hanover has been a piece of work all her life. IIRC they called her marriage to Giuliani an unholy union.

  86. 86.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Yutsano: Which wife is this? She’s not the affairs woman, is she? She wouldn’t be the kid’s mother, then. Is she also the mother of the daughter? I get confused with the sanctity of straight marriage being as it is.

  87. 87.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: Donna was Number 2 (I think, really hard to keep Rudy’s right) and their careers ascended at the same time. Bad juu juu. But apparently multiple marriage is turning into the Republican male norm. Mittens must be fuming, the LDS Church don’t do divorce.

  88. 88.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Yutsano: Well, multiple marriage and wide stances in the Minneapolis bathroom. The two are not necessarily mutually-exclusive, either. I could look it up if I really cared, I guess.

  89. 89.

    Martin

    @Yutsano: No, they try, but if someone with a name who can bolster their endowment arrives in the app pool, they’re going to get in.

  90. 90.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: I suddenly want someone to get Mittens to make a comment on Mormonism and polygamy. Specifically relating to the Jeffs case winding through Texas right now. It’ll be such a delicious spot to put him in, because there is simply no way he can answer that honestly.

  91. 91.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Yutsano: My guess is that he would give some kind of blandishment about how Mormons are not for polygamy any more and that Jeffs is an outlier. I mean, what else can he do?

    By the way, my college, St. Olaf gave preference to males and spawns of alumni during my days there. So, the heritage spots tradition is not just for Ivy League schools.

  92. 92.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: I am sooo glad I went to a state school. All it really took for me to get in was citizenship in the state of Washington. But just in case you think I was a grade slacker or had few choices, I got into Stanford and Rice too. I also got into UCLA but my parents didn’t want me living in L.A.

  95. 95.

    joeyess

    Once store employees learned who the suspect’s father is, they told cops they didn’t want to press charges, a source said

    Maybe I’m missing something here, but why is this no surprise?

    …….. and justice for all.

  96. 96.

    debbie

    Rudy’s kids are a case study in something.

    F’ed up parents. She and her brother have done nothing except act out their entire lives. I remember watching Andrew climb all over his father and the podium at Rudy’s swearing-in ceremony. I remember SNL’s reenactment with Chris Farley, but the actual footage was its own freak-show.

  98. 98.

    kc

    I knew kids who shoplifted where it was a way of acting out/cry for help

    I knew kids who shoplifted when [sings] they want somethin’ and they don’t wanna pay for it. [end singing]

    I don’t wish Ms. Guiliani ill, either. In fact I feel sorry for her. According to that story, four cops hauled her out of the store. FOUR! Doesn’t that seem a like a bit of overkill for shoplifting?

    At least they didn’t tase her.

  99. 99.

    Rudy "9/11" 9iu11ani

    When I got that phone call on 9/11 – whoops, sorry, force of habit. What I meant to say was, when I got the phone call from our heroes – I mean, the NYPD – telling me that my daughter had been arrested… well, my heart felt like it crumbled and plummeted 111 stories down. I haven’t been that shocked since we were attacked on September 11th, two-thousand-one (9/11/2001) when I was the mayor.

    On September 11th.

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