August.
Every August something happens that reminds me just how stupid America has become. This month is full of fresh reminders of our dwindling National intelligence.
It has traditionally become the month to celebrate how stupid America has become. It is the month when stupidity in America goes on full display with a vengence.
It is the month where we learned about shark attacks and Gary Condit while George Bush ignored a security warning titled “Bin Laden determined to strike in US.” It is the month where wingnutopia talking points for invading Iraq was manufactured and tested. It is the month that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth began running ads about John Kerry while the rest of wingnutopia went crazy about the flip-flop meme. It was the month of Katrina. It was the month when Karl Rove convinced most of the media that he had “the math”. It was the month when the Palin traveling carnival of hucksters was introduced to America. It was the month of death panels. It was the month the Tea Party sprang forth from well fertilized astroturf. Now it is the month to worry about secret moooslims building things or terrorist cell groups of anchor babies. And always it is a month where the dumbest mother fuckers in America try to drive our National discourse with fear, ignorance and hatred.
The funny (and tragic) thing is that this shit works over and over again because we live in a pretty stupid Country or at the very least we live in a Nation of people who fear to tell the idiots to shut the fuck up. Worse, a lot of folks who should know better take leave of their senses in August and voice support for the latest fad of idiocy (and yes, Howard, I’m looking at you).
So, why not officially make August Stupid American Month. It already is the month when we are asked to care about every crazy conspiracy theory, every half-baked idea and every bit of idiotic drivel falling from the lips of fools who walk among us. Perhaps if we officially recognize all this crazy talk as the babbling of the stupid then the Country could get the crazy shit out of our collective system.
Of course, OTOH, the clowns from crazy town could just take over and make every month Stupid American Month. And perhaps, they already have.
Cheers
CatStaff
Not that we’re bitter.
JGabriel
Dorky Grammar/Typo Police Alert: 5th paragraph, 2nd sentence, Worst should be Worse.
(Please delete this post after you’ve seen it, Dennis. Thanks.)
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beltane
In Italy everything shuts down in August. They may be on to something.
This particular August is especially nasty. I don’t find the scapegoating of unpopular minorities to be one of our finest moments. And at least in the pre-2008 Stupid Months, we did not have to deal with Sarah Palin’s moronic tweeting.
Mike Kay
oh August, how I love thee.
How I long for the good ole days of August 2001, those halcyon days when we all ran home to turn on the tee vee and get the latest update on Chandra Levy and Flordia shark attacks.
those were the days.
JGabriel
Ah, August. I just posted this last month:
Go read the entire thing. August has been the month of crazy for a looong time.
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Restrung
I promise to be better prepared next year. Maybe I’ll stop reading this blog. naah. Not much I can do about it.
Omnes Omnibus
But my birthday is in August.
RareSanity
@beltane:
I don’t know, the whole teabagger, healthcare/death panel business was pretty nasty.
Mike Kay
@JGabriel: also, too.. The Guns of August
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guns_of_August
as well, as the prelude to germany’s invasion of poland on September 1st.
Dennis G.
@JGabriel:
Thanks. WP does not allow me to remove things. So it goes.
Cheers
freelancer (itouch)
@RareSanity:
Yeah, did you go all ostrich-y last year?
Lysana
And today, the press went nuts over how 20% of Americans think our Church of Christ-attending President is a secret Muslim.
It’s August. The heat cooks the national brain. That’s why we call it Silly Season.
kwAwk
@JGabriel:
You think you’re getting off admitting you’re a dork that easy?
Dennis G.
@JGabriel:
August has been the month of crazy for a long time. Perhaps it is because so many folks go on vacation and crazy bubbles to the top. Perhaps it is the heat, but I’ve learned that if it is August then stupid is leading the news.
Cheers
beltane
@RareSanity: Sarah Palin has doubled the stupid in Stupid American Month. I think the FSM cursed us with this woman as punishment for reelecting George Bush in 2004. “You people want stupid? Have I got stupid for you.”
In NYC in the 80’s the big “racial incidents” always happened in August. I think it’s a combination of the heat with the days getting noticeably shorter.
kwAwk
I’m still trying to maintain some semblance of optimism Dennis.
Today I noticed that RealClearPolitics upgraded their Senate seat rankings to take Republicans down to a gain of just 5 seats. Lowest I can remember it being all year and pretty good for a Rasmussen heavy polling aggregator.
Perhaps people in our country aren’t as stupid as we sometimes think.
MikeBoyScout
Some crazy librul supporters of the Kenyan Muslim usurper ought to have a contest for a librul crazy for August 2011.
Since August Crazy is a given, why should stupid wingnuts have all the fun?
Restrung
@JGabriel:- Nice! Awesome Ivins.
Ron Beasley
Seebach
Speaking of stupid, via Digby:
At one point, a portion of the crowd menacingly surrounded two Egyptian men who were speaking Arabic and were thought to be Muslims.
“Go home,” several shouted from the crowd.
“Get out,” others shouted.
In fact, the two men â Joseph Nassralla and Karam El Masry â were not Muslims at all. They turned out to be Egyptian Coptic Christians who work for a California-based Christian satellite TV station called “The Way.” Both said they had come to protest the mosque.
“I’m a Christian,” Nassralla shouted to the crowd, his eyes bulging and beads of sweat rolling down his face.
But it was no use. The protesters had become so angry at what they thought were Muslims that New York City police officers had to rush in and pull Nassralla and El Masry to safety.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/sensitivity.html
asdf
On the bright side, Sarah Palin stood up for Dr. Laura. That’s as stupid a political move as I have ever seen.
General Stuck
Ten more days it will be September, and all the corporate money released from the United case will be busy producing one insane pol ad after another for the coming election for murrica to speak out on that secret mooooslem terror babie presnit, Osama Bin Black. Or, you think August was bad, ,,,,,,
gex
Recent studies in psychology show that if one person says something false and the people who know it is false don’t speak out, the person who said the false thing is further confirmed in that belief. And anyone else listening who didn’t know the “fact” will now believe it.
Now add that tidbit of knowledge to the way our media plays he said-she said with the sides of the issue and refuses to point out anything that is objectively false. They are making us dumber, regardless of where you thought America started before the era of cable news.
Kered (formerly Derek)
America is plenty fucking stupid every month.
FML
Mark S.
Shorter Victor Davis Hanson:
freelancer (itouch)
@Seebach:
Race has nothing to do with it! What was that? Quick! Get the Sandni&&34!
The mind reels.
beltane
@Seebach: Silly men. Did no one tell them that real Christians have blond hair, blue-eyes, and speak only English, preferably with a southern accent?
freelancer (itouch)
@gex:
It gets worse. Debunking a falsehood reinforces and strengthens recall of the falsehood as true at a later date.
Restrung
@MikeBoyScout:
That’s Fringe Festival.
ugly link
Kryptik
My planned venture down there might be a risky one. After all, I’m sufficiently brown enough that I just might be one of them there goddamned evil Mooslems to those folks.
frosty
Great sign-off for this little rant: “Cheers”. Oh, yeah, I’m cheery now!
Thanks for reminding me of all my neighbors here …. where we put the South in Southern Pennsyltucky.
JGabriel
kwAwk:
Heh. I’m posting on the comments section of a blog. Of course I’m a dork. So is everyone else in the room.
I just think it should be okay to let someone silently correct a minor typo, which deleting my post would have facilitated.
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Yutsano
@frosty: I suppose he could get you some really odd looks and sign off with l’chaim, but Cheers is just as good.
@JGabriel: Dengre is fortunately very good about accepting our pedanticism, so he is not above correction. We’re all ultimately human.
Nick
We need a hurricane…a big one. Like now! It doesn’t have to hit anything, just swirl out in the ocean, hypnotizing the dittoheads on TV, making them run up and down the Florida coastline chasing after it like one of those ferret toys you see in the flea market with the ball. Anything to get them to stop talking about stupid shit like whether or not the President is a Muslim, two years after we debated if his CHRISTIAN preacher was racist.
Restrung
@JGabriel:
Yup. Dork. :)
JGabriel
Restrung:
I miss Molly. It’s such a shame that Ivins didn’t live long enough to mock Palin.
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LiberalTarian
Versus Smart American Month.
Which month is that again?
Yutsano
@JGabriel: Can you even imagine the florid language Molly would have used for Bible Spice? She would have ripped Mooseburger to smithereens. Not to mention she would be all over her going into labor in Texas but going back to Alaska, Molly would have had way too much fun there. I miss her.
beltane
@Nick: The addle-headed American public probably thinks Jeremiah Wright is the imam of a radical mosque in Black Muslimland. My mother tells me Americans have always been this stupid and that we should not give up hope.
JGabriel
@MikeBoyScout:
Because the liberal elite are all on vacation in August, drinking Chardonnay and eating cool cheeses with crusty bread at their air-conditioned beachfront summer homes in the final month before they return to their cushy taxpayer-funded University jobs of indoctrinating and brainwashing Liberals: The Next Generation.
Obviously.
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El Cid
Anyone else here use Firefox and the page keeps loading from various ad links etc. for a long time?
Martin
@JGabriel: What the fuck am I doing wrong, then? I’m pulling 70 hour weeks – at a taxpayer-funded University.
Suffern ACE
OK. My theory on this is that Democrats and the people who work at related institutions actually take vacations in August and December to spend time with their families.
I noticed this in December when the underwear bomber attacked and the only guy commenting on this on the TV was Peter King, spreading fear that this was the basically the attack to end all attacks. The mostest severest security breech ever!
I noticed this last summer, when Sara Palin on a Friday afternoon tweeted her “Death Panels” tweet and Alex Koperman’s post at Salon was basically “I have to leave for the weekend, but you’re not going to believe what she just tweeted.”
I’m definitely not feeling the love this summer. Obama is in Martha’s Vineyard again for ten days. I hope he’s having a better summer than our public discourse.
JGabriel
@Yutsano:
Alaska = Texas II: Bigger, Dumber, and Unhinged.
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Suffern ACE
OK. My theory on this is that Democrats and the people who work at related institutions actually take vacations in August and December to spend time with their families.
I noticed this last summer, when Sara Palin on a Friday afternoon tweeted her “Death Panels” tweet and Alex Koperman’s post at Salon was basically “I have to leave for the weekend, but you’re not going to believe what she just tweeted.”
I noticed this in on Christmas when the underwear bomber attacked and the only guy commenting on this on the TV was Peter King, spreading fear that this was the basically the attack to end all attacks. The mostest severest security breech ever!
I’m definitely not feeling the love this summer. Obama is in Martha’s Vineyard again for ten days. I hope he’s having a better summer than our public discourse.
JGabriel
@Martin:
Shame on you! Failing to live up to the conservative fantasy of evil pampered clueless liberal! Shame!
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Mark S.
Sarah Palin retweets fellow idiot Tammy Bruce:
Because if only people could hear what Dr. Laura said in context, she would be totally vindicated.
If you’re that hypersensitive about being called a racist, don’t say the n-word 38 times in front of a black person.
JGabriel
@Ron Beasley: Except for the producers of Cutthroat Island.
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jharp
Good post. No doubt Americans are the dumbest fucking people on the planet.
But not a mention of the “victory mosque”? That happened in August.
Cain
Out of curiosity, there seems to be no presence on facebook for balloon-juice. Can’t we at least have a balloon-juice pet fan page for Tunch?
cain
Martin
@Cain: No. We can hardly be the colorful sociopaths we’re so famously known as if we’re on goddamn Facebook.
Scamp Dog
@gex: That’s the problem right there. The elite media folks are either lazy, idiotic, and unprepared or driving and propagating the nonsense, so a good chunk of the population gets substantially mis-informed.
All those fiery liberals in our media then get to tut-tut about how poorly informed our country is, and wonder out loud about how this could possibly be.
Suffern ACE
@Mark S.: Yes, and Don Imus is sooooo still suffering after the “Nappy Headed Ho” incident.
Suffern ACE
@Scamp Dog: Agreeing with the Somerby critique wholeheartedly. (Even though it isn’t always popular).
Larry Signor
@El Cid: Yes. Not just this page. Just began happening the last 2 or 3 days.
Suffern ACE
@beltane: Your mother is a wise a patient woman. My dad always tells me the same thing. Funny how he can stay that way without ketamine.
Also, even though when you travel abroad you get the sense that other countries might have smarter folk, it isn’t true. I think in other places the elite just ignores the stupid and doesn’t have think tanks whose sole purpose it is to generate a consensus, no matter how stupid that consensus might be.
suzanne
August the month of stupid?
Well, matoko_chan HAS been commenting a lot as of lateâŠ
Okay. I’m convinced.
Larry Signor
@Suffern ACE: Yes. He got his official Wingnut badge from Fox as punishment.
West of the Cascades
@Lysana: please – our UNITED Church of Christ-attending President.
United Church of Christ – adopted a resolution in 2005 declaring support for marriage equality (http://www.ucc.org/assets/pdfs/2005-equal-marriage-rights-for-all-1.pdf)
Church of Christ – a loose term that doesn’t name a formal denomination, but generally defines independent churches spun out of the Restorationist movement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Christian_Churches/Churches_of_Christ – tend to be fairly conservative (“Bible Believing”) to paint with a broad brush.
Yes, it sounds a lot like the Judean People’s Front (splitters!) – but it makes a big difference when you’re labeling what denomination of Christian you’re dealing with. President Obama attending a UCC marks him as a believer in a very liberal theology and progressive Christian community.
And, obviously, I belong to a UCC or I wouldn’t be nitpicking. If I still lived in New York City, I’d be downtown carrying a sign “Christians FOR Cordoba House.”
Mark S.
@suzanne:
zing!
Yutsano
@Mark S.: It’s twue though! It’s twue!
Mark S.
@Yutsano:
walla!
GregB
It looks like Dr. Laura is inspiring some Americans to let their true feelings fly.
Remember when the wingnuts used to lecture us about defining deviancy downward.
Mark S.
@RareSanity:
It was, but Jesus, two words: Pamela Geller.
Sheila
Yes, many Americans are stupid, or perhaps just lazy, as our media encourages them to settle into niches that feed into their misinformation. The ideal of universal sisterhood and brotherhood requires that we extend to every individual the opportunity not to be an asshole; maybe many Americans never had his opportunity extended to them? (Hint: it’s not just about financial worth).
matt
From a NYT article, posted without comment:
gex
@freelancer (itouch): I weep. I guess you really can’t change people, they can only change themselves. And many have the intellectual curiosity of toe lint.
Martin
@GregB: Weird. The guy sounds much more like a Yankees fan.
Yutsano
@Martin: Zing. Hard to argue against your logic though. My brother the Sabremetrics nut HATES how obnoxious Yankee fans are. And yes I’m laying down flame bait big deal you wanna fight about it? :)
Anne Laurie
@beltane:
I think you’re onto something — I usually hand-water my garden in the evening, and it’s been depressing me that “full dark” has moved from around 9pm to 8:30pm or so already, while it’s still hella hot & humid. Everyone credits the heat for the crazification, but you’re the first person who’s pointed out we’re all preparing for SAD, too.
Anne Laurie
@JGabriel: I miss Steve Gilliard. Just imagine what that life-long, loyal NYC resident would have had to say about the Non-Mosque Nontroversy!
hitchhiker
And please, please, let us not forget that it was on August 9th, 2001 when George W Bush declaimed about embryonic stem cell research.
From his comfy faux ranch down in Crawford.
His thought was that it was plenty fine to incinerate thousands of blastocysts . . . the clear moral choice. No need to fund research.
It happened to be my 15th wedding anniversary. I watched the Bush announcement with one eye on my newly spinal-cord-injured husband, who was 43 at the time, sitting in his fucking wheelchair with despair lapping like a deep lake at his paralyzed feet.
Very hot day, that August 9th. Did you know that people with spinal cord injuries can’t even sweat?
America nodded its creepy-crazy head at Bush that day, agreeing sagely that he had threaded the needle of stem cell research funding. August really is where the lunatics show their hands.
ricky
Seventy one comments in and nobody wants to call Howard Dean a Tower of Jello? Shoot. Only Olbermann and Greenwald will give him the time of day.
Guess his fifty square block mosque moving strategy won’t make it beyond Iowa.
General Stuck
The Cincy Reds have won 6 straight and are now 3.5 games up on the Cards. wOOt! August ain’t so bad.
YellowJournalism
@Seebach: You left out the best part:
and the worst part:
JWL
We live in a country in which ‘the peoples airwaves’ is a foreign concept.
That’s all there is to it.
Why the airwaves were sold is obvious.
The question is: who sold them out?
Suffice to say, it was a bipartisan effort.
FlipYrWhig
@YellowJournalism: Metaphorical toilet, nothing. What about literal toilets at the site? Are _you_ willing to go on record in support of the Ground Zero John? Pouring out your bodily effluvia all over what is indeed hallowed ground! For shame. For. Shame.
JGabriel
@Anne Laurie:
Me too. Another progressive soul with a scathing wit ripped untimely from us.
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That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)
This is the part that gets me, from the Digby link:
Okay, one of the things that gets me. I want to ask these people whether or not they hold all of the Protestant denominations to blame for the Catholic clergy sex abuse scandal, because that’s what they are doing here. These are Sufis, for god’s sake. They’re basically the Quakers of Islam. (Okay, that’s a really tortured analogy, but it’s kinda, sorta true if you squint right.)
Bender
Didn’t Guam tip over in August?
Xenos
My theory is that all of the sane people in the media are out on vacation in the Hamptons, Nantucket, and elsewhere and the loonies briefly take over the asylum.
asiangrrlMN
@Seebach: This reminds me of non-Japanese Asians wearing, “I’m _____” buttons during the Japanese Internment Episode of which we will not speak in order to not get hassled. I have no doubt the buttons always worked the way they should. Right? RIGHT?
I gotta say, though, that I agree that every month is pretty much stupid month–not just in America, either. Every country has its stupid–we just decided to flaunt ours with pride.
@beltane: I like your theory. Palin as a punishment for W.
Fuck. I need a drink. And I don’t even drink.
YellowJournalism
@asiangrrlMN: I’ve had a shitty day that turned into a shitty night, and now the little one won’t sleep thanks to two front teeth coming in. suzanne in another thread mentioned martinis. Sounds good to me! (But I’ll probably just try to get to bed again.)
asiangrrlMN
@YellowJournalism: Sorry to hear it. Hope you can get some sleep. I know how awful it is to be sleep-deprived. Good luck.
Xenos
@YellowJournalism: Rubbing bourbon on the gums works a treat. A double for Mom is also indicated.
I have been through that process five times. Alcohol is your friend.
Lysana
@West of the Cascades:
Point of correction taken.
In return, I should note to you that it’s Park51. Not Cordoba House. The problem of using Cordoba due the tangled history of Muslim presence there led them to change its name.
Martin Gifford
Exactly.
I’d call it Cowardly Democrat Month.
Then I’d follow that with Corrupt Democrat Month.
Martin Gifford
Exactly.
I’d call it “Cowardly Democrats Month”.
Follow it up with: “Corrupt Democrats Month”.
And how about: “Lying President Month”?
JamesC
@freelancer (itouch):
Alas, I think I’ll only be feeding your statement by asserting that, despite it all, Americans aren’t nearly as stupid as is commonly asserted.
Are there a LOT of loud, crazy Americans? Well, yes. You’d have to be blind and deaf to assert otherwise. Many of them are also dumber than square wheels on a bike. But perhaps we’re letting ourselves get caught up with the image of a tidal wave of dumb, ignorant hicks, when the reality is that we’re the ones biting the American Exceptionalism illusion on this. What’s the ratio on every other culture and civilization’s share of the idiots? Are we really that bad off?
Certainly, the fact that the media finds it profitable to spin such a perspective makes this viewpoint somewhat suspect.
Furthermore, Idiocracy was wrong anyhow. Intelligence is generally on its way up. Granted, the evidence for this takes the long view – it could very well be that it’s an upward cycle punctuated by periods of moronic dips. But just because the modern media serves as an excellent amplifier to extremes of perspectives doesn’t mean we should treat the simulation of a catastrophic stampede as the real thing.
It does mean we need to invest in some better amps, pre-amps and subwoofers ourselves, though, or risk getting drowned out and ignored. And don’t be a cheapskate on the cables!
matoko_chan
@JamesC:
no… it is just the conservative side. America has been memetically linebreeding conservatives for 50 years to be racist, low-information, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-education religious bigots for half a century. the conservative base is highly susceptible to cognitive dissonance, conspiracy theory, fear of out-groups, conformation bias, all the human cognitive traits associated with lower IQ and g. and it will get worse before they die off.
Bush and Palin are merely the end result of selection for stupid in the conservative base.
there is a biological basis for all behavior.
:)
mbarnato
It’s not called the silly season for nuthin’…
matoko_chan
Dennis, it is the right mostly.
Last year in august.
The crazy tree blooms in August.
This has happened before.
Steve Benen–where the crazy tree blooms.
why don’t liberals learn? why do we tolerate Kain here? the truth is we are not the same.
and the gap between us is growing.
there are Two Americas, like Douthat said. But the Two Americas are liberal and conservative. There are two american dreams….the liberal dream is the dream of the natural aristoi….that talent and virtue will prevail….Obama is the avatar of the natural aristoi. The conservative dream is that “commonsense’, patriotism, primogenacy, and faith in Jesus entitle them to rule and impose their nasty lowminded prurient religious doctrine and racisl supremacy on the rest of us.
We are not the same. we are diverging into two memetic subspecies. and they get crazier when they are out of power. They believe power is their right.
I loathe Kain and Douthat and McMegan with all my heart because they are pushing the calumny that we are all the same, that we can somehow understand or persuade or sympathize with the crazies.
wake up! we don’t have to have to put with this. they are crazy fucktards full of evil ideas and we can call them out on it. they are aren’t ‘misunderstood’, their ideas are not equal, they are bad stupid and just like the reavers they would rape us to death, patch their clothes with our skin, and eat us. the bankstahs and the GOP pols do that every day and they fucking do it in the name of jesus and free market patriotism.
don’t forget.
matoko_chan
And Palin is the avatar of the conservatives.
intelligence, education, honesty and honor don’t matter..in fact they are negatives.
she can lie about anything, farm the marks for cash, quit her gov job, and they still still love her…because she is them.
she is the avatar of Jefferson’s yeomen farmers…….who he never meant to lead.
Bender
Please post more. We have such a laugh over these in the real, non-dressing-up-as-cartoon-characters world.
Dr. Morpheus
@Anne Laurie:
Whaaaa?
I welcome the shortening of daylight. The sun is the enemy.
Frankly, I think I have anti-SAD. I start getting depressed as the days get longer and nights shorter.
Chad N Freude
@matoko_chan:
Because we are opposed to echo-chamber discourse and welcome discussion of diverse points of view? Because we acknowledge that thoughtful expression of opinion and reasoned debate are important? Because we’re liberals and don’t believe in exclusion of dissent?
I’ve felt for some time that the criticism directed at some/most/all of your comments was overstated and needlessly offensive, but I must say that the quoted question is the stupidest fucking thing you’ve ever posted and certainly calls into question your commitment to the principles you claim to hold.
THE
@matoko_chan
My computer is currently down. I am using my PS3 to access the web.
However, even in my currently web-challenged state, it is reassuring to see that you are the one unchanging thing in an uncertain world.
Tone In DC
@beltane:
@Nick: The addle-headed American public probably thinks Jeremiah Wright is the imam of a radical mosque in Black Muslimland. My mother tells me Americans have always been this stupid and that we should not give up hope.
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Still…
Teh st00pid, it burns!
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/32881.html#comments
matoko_chan
@Bender: dont laff. Palin is your avatar.
matoko_chan
@Chad N Freude: would you tolerate Douthat or McMegan here?
Kain is just as dishonest.
matoko_chan
@THE: wallah, i have changed much since we first met.
i have evolved.
:)
THE
@matoko_chan
Proving for all time that evolution is not the same thing as progress. ;)
Brandon
Apparently, it is also the month to put a quotation mark in front of a period. Talk about dumb……
Chad N Freude
@matoko_chan:
SATSQ: Yes. As a matter of fact, I’d like to see them try to defend what they write when the commenters here attack.
Two questions back to you: (1) How about a couple of examples to support your assertion? (2) If Kain is not to be “tolerated”, how can we engage with him and point out to him the error of his ways? (It is a little-known but nonetheless true fact that people who don’t get argued with don’t correct their erroneous positions.)
I find it disheartening that someone who claims to be a “liberal” espouses the principle “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to STFU.”
Chad N Freude
@THE: Well, there’s certainly no evidence of Intelligent Design there.
Svensker
@matoko_chan:
Horse puckey. She never did a hard day’s work in her life. A yeoman farmer would have some sense of reality and dignity.
matoko_chan
@Chad N Freude: i just want him to engage his base and stop enabling them.
he said this to me when he banned me.
i objected to him weasel wording Rush’s statement that he wanted Obama to fail.
I’d be thrilled for Kain to try to educate his base instead of enabling them to be racist bigots. i’d be thrilled for him to actually defend ‘good’ conservative ideas here.
we are not the same anymore.
conservatives ARE religious racist bigots that want to suppress our civil rights.
there is no rational way to defend the fetus=slave meme.
there is no way to ‘understand’ the other side.
Kain, Douthat and McMegan have just now realized that conservatism is dying, because of the base. they didnt care when they were winning.
now they want to change the rules.
matoko_chan
@Svensker: she is not noble either. :(
matoko_chan
@Chad N Freude: did you see the result of Kain’s post on abortion?
he decided he wasn’t really a conservative after all.
but he never retracted.
he leant cover to conservative ratfucking batshit craziness on flipping the abortion meme. you see, if women dont have control over their own bodies they are slaves. that is indisputable. so Kain and his base flip it to make the fetus the slave. its just like teabagger racism. they are racists….its indefensible….so they flip that, and say the NAACP and the liberals are the real racists.
/spit
Ella in New Mexico
@El Cid:
Yes, Firefox is really getting on my nerves lately with that nasty tendency. If I could find a fast way to transfer my bookmarks, I’d dump it today.
matoko_chan
McMegan and Douthat were spectacular on flipping on Dr. Tiller’s death. here’s the meme– conservatives are wrong to kill abortion doctors BUT it is REALLY the liberals fault Dr. Tiller died because Roe makes conservatives crazy and they have to act on their crazy.
Chad N Freude
@matoko_chan & @matoko_chan: Thanks. Glad to have you summarizing and filtering what he said and didn’t say, saving me the trouble of reading the original postings whose links you didn’t take the trouble to provide.
matoko_chan
@Chad N Freude: sorry.
my bad….i thot you had read it like mechanical wretch or whoever.
heres the thread.
but the synopsis is ED never retracted the fetus=slave trope, and at the end he said he wasn’t actually a conservative.
so……what the fuck is he?
he’s a flipper.
:)
gex
@matoko_chan:
I really object to:
I generally feel I am left of most Americans. So when I see people on the “left” adopt the same intolerance and, well eliminationist, approach of the right I get upset. Apparently, no matter what the attitude of the person on the right, you simply cannot tolerate listening to what they say.
You are more than welcome to not read E.D.’s posts if you wish.
matoko_chan
@gex: Kain banned me because i objected to his fluffing of rush limbaugh when rush said he hoped Obama would fail….he explicitly told me he was pandering to his base in doing that…he also told me he would not criticize rush.
i can say what i like (i always do), and cole can ban me if he objects.
perhaps Kain can ban me again.
but what i said was the truth.
urbanmeemaw
@General Stuck: Amen to that!!
Lyris
What a shame I didn’t see this idea earlier this month. But then the teabagging/gop are stupid every month.