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Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

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Listening to these guys for the first time in a while:

Also, those of you who do not like the decor of my house can lick my ring. It’s comfortable, it is clean, it smells good, my company and the animals and I enjoy it, and it is paid for. This is real America, not Selling New York, jackass.

Not to mention, my sparkling personality and obvious charm are the real selling points once you are in the house. Asshole.

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  1. 1.

    wmsheppa

    I just went to try to get into bed and one of the cats has somehow managed to take up my entire half of it. I can’t even imagine trying to fight for space with dogs.

  4. 4.

    Ross Hershberger

    I love The Pretenders. I saw them touring behind the second record and it was a pinnacle of Rock greatness. I could listen to Message of Love every day and always be happy.

  9. 9.

    Tattoosydney

    …. can lick my ring. It’s comfortable, it is clean, it smells good, my company and the animals and I enjoy it, and it is paid for. This is real America, not Selling New York, jackass.

    That’s some ring.

    By the way, TMI.

  11. 11.

    LGRooney

    Tattooed Love Boys is still one of the best punk songs in history. “Lick my ring,” indeed.

  14. 14.

    MikeJ

    Howard the Duck and Mr Stress both stayed
    Trapped in a world that they never made
    But not me baby, I’m too precious, fuck off

  16. 16.

    JasonF

    @Ross Hershberger:

    I could listen to Message of Love every day and always be happy.

    Message of Love is such an amazing song. It’s just the same two chords over and over (and over and over and over, no pun intended). It’s so deceptively simple, yet it’s such a great song.

    Chrissie has a new album coming out that she did with a guy named JP Jones and it sounds absolutely incredible. Very raw stuff about JP and Chrissie’s relationship and maybe the best stuff she’s done in a career that’s been filled with some really great stuff. The album is called Fidelity! and the band is called JP, Chrissie, and the Fairground Boys. Here’s the first single:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toq7cNCC1KE

  17. 17.

    General Stuck

    Reds beat the Dodgers for 7th straight win and break a 19 game losing streak at Dodger Stadium. Cards lose again and Reds leading the Central Division now by 4.5 games. Not everything has turned to shit in August. GO REDLEGS!!

    edit – Oh, and I loves me some Chrissie Hynde

  18. 18.

    Susan S

    Do people really fuss about your decor? I lovvvve to decorate..helps me unwind from stocks and bonds and imbecilic Republicans..come to Seattle and I’ll lend you a Jacob Lawrence..that should shut them up. Your home is lovely, your garden as elegant as your prose. Go cuddle a dog and forget them. Peace[ah, wouldnt it be luverly!]

  19. 19.

    Steven

    Just letting everybody know now: I want “Back on the Chain Gang” played at my funeral.

  21. 21.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Mystery Achievement has always been my favorite Pretenders’ song, even after all these years and all those permutations.
    @JasonF: Love that song. and another one I’ve heard (His time is tomorrow, and mine was yesterday). XM was playing them for a while, but I haven’t heard any in a couple weeks.

  22. 22.

    2th&nayle

    @jeffreyw: Tell the truth. You just baited us with the kitty pic to show off your mouth watering sandwich pics! You are merciless! Now I gotta go fix myself a grilled cheese.

  23. 23.

    gwangung

    My decor and housekeeping skills go to pot when I’m producing a show.

    If you’re in Seattle, see my show. Light, frothy romantic comedy with a touch of deeper issues to ameliorate your elitist intellectual guilt. If you have no guilt, just enjoy the leads (four extremely attractive, young Asian American women, if you’re into those things).(That’s why I do these things, you know. Being the only straight guy on a production staff and cast full of females).

  27. 27.

    MeDrewNotYou

    It was the friendly afterthought “Asshole,” at the end that cracked me up. That’s how you know he’s charming and witty.

  29. 29.

    Yutsano

    @gwangung:

    (That’s why I do these things, you know. Being the only straight guy on a production staff and cast full of females)

    There are a surprisingly large number of straight males who do theater for this exact reason. It helps when you’re the token male genitalia in the cast. I think gay men do it because we tend to be big performers. I can’t act to save my life, but I do play a mean oboe.

  30. 30.

    freelancer

    @Steven:

    Sad, but apropo.

    Even worse, more to the point of sacrilege, can’t believe that I grew up in a world where “My City was Gone” ended up being the bumper music for that jackfuck Limbaugh. We live in an indifferent universe. Se la vie.

  35. 35.

    Waynski

    @arguingwithsignposts: Was that before or after the original guy died? Do you remember his name? I used to know it. I remember when he died I was taking finals as a junior in HS, but can’t remember his name. I suppose I could use teh google, but maybe you could help me. How’s the kitteh?

  37. 37.

    Ross Hershberger

    Pete Farndon was the original bassist. Jimmy Scott is also dead. For a long time it was Chrissie and martin Chambers plus other, lesser people.

  38. 38.

    JenJen

    For some weird reason, “Brass In Pocket” keeps popping up a lot in my life lately. That it would show up in this blog kind of creeps me out.

    It’s just me.

    I love you, Chrissie Hynde.

  39. 39.

    JasonF

    Pete Farndon was the Pretenders bass player who died of an overdose right around the same time their lead guitarist, James Honeyman-Scott also died of an overdose. Those deaths, in turn, soured drummer Martin Chambers of continuing on, and the Pretenders effectively became a Chrissie Hynde vanity project as of their third or fourth album. Don’t get me wrong (no pun intended) — those latter albums included some good music, but Farndon, Honeyman-Scott, and Chambers were all just amazing musicians and it makes me sad to think that we missed out on what might have been.

  40. 40.

    frosty

    @gwangung: Checked out your link and it looks like a nice way to make a living! I read the reviews … had no idea there was such a thing as episodic theater. Pretty cool.

  41. 41.

    Zuzu's Petals

    and it is paid for

    Okay, I’m confused.

    Not to pry or anything, but when you first moved I had the impression you were buying. Then you put up a thread about how great it is to rent. So…paid for by landlord? Or …. ?

  42. 42.

    Yutsano

    @Zuzu’s Petals: I’m guessing he means the decor is paid for, which makes sense. I don’t buy home furnishing on credit ever, so I appreciate this sentiment. If I don’t got the cash I don’t buy.

  43. 43.

    JenJen

    @JasonF:So sorry, but the best Cars song ever is, clearly, Candy-O.

    RIP, Ben Orr.

    Love the Cars. Makes me feel young just listening to them again.

    ETA: Actually, JasonF, “Since You’re Gone” rules mightily, as well. Good call.

  44. 44.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Waynski:

    Was that before or after the original guy died?

    After. He actually worked on Back in the Chain Gang, and is seen in the video, IIRC. A really good bassist, but you lose so many to death, and it tears up the heart of a band.

  45. 45.

    Steeplejack

    @Waynski:

    The original bass player, Pete Farndon, died almost a year after leaving the group. It was the guitar player, James Honeyman-Scott, who died two days after Farndon was fired. Wikipedia article here.

    ETA: Man, ad.doubleclick.net is really dragging things down tonight. Talk about a barnacle on the hull. Haven’t seen it be this recalcitrant in a long while.

  48. 48.

    asiangrrlMN

    @gwangung: Yum. Really wish I could be there to see the production….because I like theatre, damn it! Yeahhhhhh…..Seriously, though, it looks like my kind of show.

    @Tattoosydney: Ew. Just–ew.

    @Steeplejack: Hiya! I’ve missed you. But, I am a bit shaken. Those are two of my least favorite songs from the eighties!

    Cole, I have always defended your decor, so some acknowledgement, please? Or is the only way to get your attention is by saying something nasty about you? ‘Coz I can do nasty. Oh, and TUNCHIE!

  49. 49.

    gwangung

    @frosty: Well, at anything below equity, you don’t make a living at it; you do it because you love it (or the side benefits, in my case).

    There’s one or two improv serial stories out there, and a few companies have gotten a half dozen chapters up and running, but I think our company’s the only one to get into double digits and up to 18 episodes. It helps that TV, movies, stage don’t tell Asian American stories; it also helps that our cast are, for the most part, pretty damn good looking (both male and female).

  50. 50.

    JenJen

    Since I’m at least halfway through +5, let’s riff on the Cars some more.

    She’s got wonderful eyes
    And a risqué mouth
    When I asked her before
    She says she’s holding out
    __
    She’s a frozen fire
    She’s my one desire

    You know, they just don’t write ’em like that anymore.

    And she won’t give up, ’cause she’s 17

    Exactly.

    Remember the first time you ever heard the Cars? Didn’t you think they were weird-sounding? And didn’t you kind of love that?

    Also, Chrissie Hynde rules.

  51. 51.

    gwangung

    @asiangrrlMN: Yeah, I thought it might appeal to you (actually, I think you might be a ringer for one of our characters). We did a segment from one show and a staged reading of another episode in Minneapolis for the national AA theatre conference a few years back; it seemed to get a good response. (Cracked me up, though. The author played one of the roles, but not the one she usually plays—and the one she played in MN was so NOT her…)

  52. 52.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Waynski – kitteh update: she’s fine, although she’s going to be in the kittehhouse if she tears up another roll of TP. grrrr. should upload some new pics tomorrow. Lightning around here tonight.

  53. 53.

    asiangrrlMN

    @gwangung: If you are ever in these parts again, let me know, OK? I would so love to see one of your shows. I could fit one of the characters? Loud-mouthed, crude, highly-sexed, and pissed off? Let me guess…second from the left? And, which one is the author?

    @arguingwithsignposts: Your fault for putting the TP where she can get it.

  55. 55.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Mine don’t fuck with it, but to each her own. Raven will, however, eat the dental floss if I throw it in the bathroom garbage, so I have to throw it away in my bedroom (they are not allowed in) or under the sink. I tell you, turning around and seeing him calmly munching on dental floss once nearly gave me a heart attack.

  56. 56.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    I’m hoping she’ll grow out of it at some point, because it’s a PITA to keep it in a high cabinet. But no floss, at least, or digging through garbage. Also, she only messes with a whole roll, not any of the stuff she’s already tore up. Already cost me at least a few dollars.

  57. 57.

    mb

    my dog adopting/buying tip: the smaller the dog, the smaller the poop. Less poop is a very good thing.

  59. 59.

    roshan

    Run Everyone, The Johns have gone Galt!

    As speculators are vilified and hedge funds are perceived as acceptable casualties of war, financial fatigue will evolve in kind. We’ve already seen the burnout manifest in trading volume — upwards of 70% of the flow are the robots — and we’ve witnessed it in financial media, with reported ratings of some of CNBC’s marquee shows down as much as 25% year-over-year.

  62. 62.

    Steeplejack

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Have had a weird schedule this week, plus been doing some philosophical stock-taking.

    I’ll accept some hatin’ on the Howard Jones song, but “Yah Mo B There” is on my “unexpected but weirdly appropriate spiritual” mix.

    ETA: Bailing for bed. Last couple of nights have been weird, like the old days: me trolling dead threads with (seemingly) no one else up. Now there’s suddenly an uptick of Friday night action. Go figure. Steep out.

  63. 63.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    All the time? unfortunately, atm, not possible. one of the *very few* small problems with the new apt. is that the bathroom door doesn’t shut completely unless you push from the inside and lock a separate lock (warping, i suspect). Plus, if I ever have company (like my kids, for instance), there’s no guarantee they’ll shut the door behind them. For the moment, the cabinet is the best option.

    Still, I’m lovin’ these hardwood floors and the ceiling fans, and the quiet. ahhh.

  64. 64.

    roshan

    @asiangrrlMN:
    Dude, the block quote was there for a purpose. Please read the labels before ingesting any pills.

    On a side note, if you’re using firefox, then install interclue to get a preview of any link before ever visiting it.

  71. 71.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: My boys like it because I’m captive. I turn on the faucet for Raven, and Shadow gets his pets. Yeah, they’re spoiled–so what?

    I like the lyrics of the song you posted, surprise surprise. And, now that I’ve heard the whole song, I like it!

  74. 74.

    Steeplejack

    @asiangrrlMN:

    You’re hitting me in a sensitive spot. I can never get too much of the Mavericks doing that song. Weird how I tunnel-vision on the brunet dancer. I try to look at the blonde and even some of the background ones, but I cannot do it. The brunette is like Michele Bachmann’s angelic alter ego. (Er, perhaps this is TMI.) She hypnotizes me. Plus, what is with the fascinating, arcane hand gestures? There should be a book about this.

    And you know which one I like for Duran Duran.

    Which reminds me, we haven’t checked your stripper set list in a while.

  75. 75.

    MNPundit

    How can your house smell good when there are so many damn animals in it? No matter who they are, animals smell.

  80. 80.

    JenJen

    @Jebediah: You only say that because the lovely, young, nubile Phoebe Cates removed her bikini top to that song in “Fast Times”.

    I’m just guessing. ;-) Either way, yes, that song kicks so much ass.

  82. 82.

    JGabriel

    John Cole:

    This is real America, not Selling New York, jackass.

    Fuck you, Cole! You sound like Palin. Manhattan is just as much real America as WV or any other inbred rural enclave.

    [Grumble grumble, mutter mutter…]

    .

  83. 83.

    asiangrrlMN

    @Steeplejack: OK, is that for the video or the song (DD)? Ohhhhh, yeah. I could dance to that Billy Idol song all right. Where’s mah pole and eight-inch heels?

    Mavericks–well, I know you have a thing for sultry brunettes….

    @arguingwithsignposts: That’s fucking awesome.

    @Yutsano: I said I FEEL drunk, though I have NOT drunk. I am stone-cold sober (but won’t be tomorrow night).

  84. 84.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @JGabriel:

    I live in NY, and Manhattan is just as much real America as WV or any other inbred rural enclave.

    Just because I can, I’m gonna troll here. There are at least 10,000 journalists in NYC proper. All the major media outlets have campuses there. Glenn Beck broadcasts from there.

    Therefore, Manhattan is *not* just as much real America as anywhere else. Just sayin’.

    ETA: I’d say the same thing about LA, FWIW.

  85. 85.

    Yutsano

    @JGabriel: It’s okay. Here. Have a cookie. That mean nasty old John Cole won’t bug you any more.

    @arguingwithsignposts: ZOMG he’s speaking in tongues! I think Smudge is cutting off his air supply!

    @arguingwithsignposts: Heh. You had to go there didn’t you? May you get smeared in Italian tuna on the night Lady Smudge runs out of food.

  86. 86.

    Jebediah

    @JenJen:
    oh crap I had forgotten about that! and as a younger fellow, I found her quite… pleasing.
    but oddly, what I am craving right now does not, I think, exist – Lucero covering the Replacements “Treatment Bound.”

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN:

    And, lord, but I love the cello. I should take it up again.

    I think there are some interesting oboe-cello duets out there. It could make for some very entertaining family events to be sure. Of course I don’t own my own horn…but that could be remedied.

  100. 100.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: I’m a classically trained vocalist as well, although can’t do that and play the oboe at the same time. Although I confess I LOVE playing English horn more than oboe. It just sounds more sonorous to me, plus it’s not that common. That and, well, I’m even better on that than oboe. Don’t ask me why, just how it is. :)

  101. 101.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    I’m sure there are some daytime musicians who would contribute if Cole would get off his ass and organize something so we could do this. Think MerleFest with more snark! Or Burning Man with less … whatever that shit is. :)

    ETA: proceeds could even go to a pet shelter!

  103. 103.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    What’s wrong with English Horn? … What? Why are you looking at me?

    For BJStock, I’m thinking more centrally located. Chicagoland, perhaps? I wouldn’t want our west coast BJers having to bear the brunt of the freight, although, I could see the WVA attraction.

    ETA: we could have a whole tent set up to explain naked mopping. I’m sure there are some DFH’s we could punch to make that happen.

    ETA2: Heck, we could have a whole tent just for hippie punching. Maybe pay Jane Hamsher to sit in the dunking booth for a while. I am envisioning all kinds of awesome here.

    ETA3: insomnia is a cruel mistress.

  104. 104.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Ain’t nothing wrong with the English horn. Mmmmmhmmmmmm. Well, if we’re talking Midwest, um, duh! Minneapolis? We have a GREAT music scene.

    Update I: It’s dinner time.

    Update II: Yes to nekkid mopping.

    Update III: It should be in winter in Minnesota.

  105. 105.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    I like the cut of your jib (Husker Du and the ‘Mats FTMFW, btw). Maybe a speech by some senator from your state, perhaps? I can think of one who would be appropriate, but his name is escaping me. However, what about the People’s Republic of Madison. I hear Cole already digs that place.

  107. 107.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: We could do half in Minneapolis and half in Madison. And that senator…yeah, he’s been so nondescript for his first year, his name escapes me.

    Update IV: Winter rules. That is all.

    Update V: Two words for you–ice fishing.

    Update VI: First Muslim person in Congress is also from here.

    Update VII: Prince is also from here, but he says the intertoobz iz dedded, so fuck him.

    @Yutsano: Minneapolis. If we’re including the Canadians, Minneapolis.

  108. 108.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: We could also go for the dead center geographic point of the lower 48, which is somewhere in Kansas I think. Of course if you include Alaska that moves it much further north. We also have to consider easy border access for our resident Canuckistanis. After all, it wouldn’t be a party without SamKitteh!

  109. 109.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Yutsano: @asiangrrlMN:
    Yeah, well Minn or Wisc. would be better options for Canuckistani BJers. Kansas is shit – too red. We need somewhere with some at least semi-blue folk, which was why I was thinking Chicagoland, but, Minneapolis to Madison is a four hour drive. Can’t see it over a weekend. Let’s stick to one or the other. Minneapolis one year, and then we can torch Madison the next. We’d at least have whats-his-face from Minn. and Feingold from Wisc. as potential speakers.

  111. 111.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Feingold is pissing me off right now, so Minneapolis it is!

    Update VIII: Though Madison has better cheese.

    Update IX: They also have dickier cops, so there is that.

    Update X: We have ice palaces in the winter.

    Update XI: It cracks me up the way he endlessly updates his articles. And, I’m good for a bit. I took a nap earlier.

    Update XII: So, you’re in LA? It’s not so late there.

  112. 112.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    Re: winter – the problem is the travel. You know how many flights get canceled out of Midway and O’Hare, not to mention those other shitty regional hubs?

    Update MMMXIV: yeah, I hate those updates. You should check out the response I gave to Uncle Clarence Thomas in one of the earlier “what is this blog supposed to be threads” about that shit.

    Update MMMXV: I took a nap earlier, too. That’s what’s keeping me awake, I think. Damn you, NAP!!!! /colbertvoice

  113. 113.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: A) Cheese can be imported.

    B) We can handle cops. Oh yes, we can handle cops.

    C) Ice palaces? Ice hotels? All sound goodst to me.

  114. 114.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Not THAT many. A couple dozen–sure. If we do it in summer, I will wilt like a delicate flower.

    @arguingwithsignposts: I saw that answer you gave. Snert.

    @Yutsano: I bet you can! And, our ice palace/sculptures are renowned around the world the state.

    Hey, why the hell can’t we have it in Canuckistan?

    Update MLCDI: If SamKitten cannot come to Mohammed–oh noez! I said Mohammed!

  115. 115.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    Oh, no. Not summer. I’m thinking early fall or early spring (like what would be spring break for many campuses).

    Summer sucks all over, so there’s no getting around that. but *real* winter – i.e., december to february – is just shit for travel. especially if there’s a storm. And given the global warming picture, I don’t think we can rule that stuff out.

    Update CCXVI: Of course, we would get better hotel rates during the winter than during the height of conference season.

  116. 116.

    Yutsano

    @asiangrrlMN: Tronno maybe? We could all camp out on Comrade Mary’s couch or something. Plus I bet the proceeds would go over rather nicely. Hell if we work it right we might be able to get a grant from the Canadian government. Y’know, them being dirty sociaIists and all. :)

    And I’m hitting the wall. Night y’all.

  118. 118.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Well, if there’s global warming, then there will be less snow in the winter. DUH!

    OK. If we MUST do another season–I vote fall. It’s gorgeous, and it’s not so hot and sneezy for me.

    @Yutsano: That would be fucking awesome! Night, babe.

    @Jebediah: You’ve been gone since we started talking about the comeliness of Phoebe Cates. Coincidence? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  120. 120.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: In all seriousness, I really hope climate change overtakes global warning as the buzz word for this phenomenon. It cuts down on teh stoopid just a skosh.

    Update eleven-billionty and one: He has a greeeeat voice. Grrrrowl.

  121. 121.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @asiangrrlMN:
    Update eleventy-billion and one – I know, doesn’t it kill you! and he plays a mean guitar!

    Update eleventy-billion and two – I think we should just start making posters and then Cole will have to do it, like gravity, or Tunchity, or something.

    Update eleventy-billion and four: I note that I stepped on the previous update eleventy-billion and one, and so have skipped ahead. Someone is Wrong on the Internet!

  122. 122.

    Shalimar

    My favorite Pretenders song: I adore the live version of I Hurt You that is on Isle of View.
    Among the popular songs, my favorite is probably Middle of the Road.

  123. 123.

    asiangrrlMN

    @arguingwithsignposts: Update eleventy-billion and two: Yes. And he has great lyrics. I’m listening to Sad, Sad, Sad right now.

    Update eleventy-billion and three: And, I just hit the wall. You and Jebediah can ponder the pulchritude of Ms. Cates in my absence. Night. I hope you can sleep soon.

    Update eleventy-billion to infinity: You stepped all over my eleventy-billion updates!

  125. 125.

    Nicole

    I spent some weeks in Akron, and while there ate at Chrissie Hynde’s vegan restaurant (the food was amazing). My family came for a visit and I took them there for brunch. While we were there, Chrissie Hynde came in to eat with another person. I was googly-eyed with excitement, and then watched in horror (okay, horror and amusement) as my brother, who was strolling the restaurant, looking at the photos on the walls of celebrity vegetarians, leaned right into Ms Hynde’s booth and shouted back to us, “Is that Tobey McGuire?”

    Outside the restaurant I told him the woman whose space he’d invaded was the owner and the singer for The Pretenders. He said, “Oh! The Pretenders! I loved ‘Walking on Sunshine!'”

    I adore my brother.

  127. 127.

    D-Chance.

    I see nothing wrong with your house’s decor, Cole.

    But, then, I sleep on an air mattress and have a gold colored chair in my living room, so what do I know…

  132. 132.

    Aldo Lomeli

    Did you think about checking Walmart.com to see what they carry? You can probably check online down to the level of your local Walmart store to see what they have in stock.

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