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Treacle

by DougJ|  August 21, 20107:00 pm| 138 Comments

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Although I don’t normally like this style of drink, I have to say that this is a top notch concoction.  Got any good drink recipes?

Treacle

Makes 1 drink

Adapted from a recipe by Dick Bradsell, El Camino, London.

  • 2 ounces dark rum
  • 1/2 ounce simple syrup
  • 2 dashes Angostura bitters
  • 1/2 ounce apple juice

Instructions: Stir the rum, simple syrup and bitters together in an ice-filled old-fashioned glass for at least 20 seconds. Float the apple juice on top of the drink.

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  1. 1.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    I am skeptical, but I might give it a try at some point.

  2. 2.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Makes 1 drink.

    * 1 beer

    Instructions: Pour beer in glass. For a stronger beer flavor, add beer.

  3. 3.

    South of I-10

    August 21, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Sounds delish. I’m listening to my sister in law’s band, they are playing a local show, Rendevous des Cajuns, the host hasn’t shown up and I know they are nervous as hell. Anyway, if you want to listen along, you can do it here.

  4. 4.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I thought it was very good and I normally avoid anything with simple sugar. I’m thinking of adding it to the rotation (which for now is just wet martinis, rye manhattans, and that Brazillian one I can’t say or spell).

  5. 5.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Sounds like a great drink (as in, one drink) to go with a not–too-sweet dessert.

    I like Sazerac, a New Orleans cocktail, but don’t have a recipe (I’m sure they’re readily available on the intertubes). I know it’s got whiskey and a couple types of bitters and that you don’t want to drink more than a couple if you’re out in public.

  6. 6.

    WereBear (itouch)

    August 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    You had me at dark rum.

  7. 7.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    O/T other than the fact that I am drinking while posting. I just came from the grocery store and half heard a story on the radio that there is a church in Florida planning on burning copies of the Koran on 9/11? Please tell me this is not true. I am afraid to go looking for the story. I cannot believe that such a thing would be allowed to go on in this century.

  8. 8.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    @DougJ: caipirinha?

  9. 9.

    b-psycho

    August 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Simple one, but good: 50% white rum, 40% pineapple juice, last 10% cherry pucker. Over ice.

    I don’t make tiny mixed drinks though (this was in a normal sized drinking glass when I made it), so that might be a bit much for some.

  10. 10.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    @lacp:

    Yeah, that’s what it is. I love them, but not everyone does. They’re very strong. I consider them a New York drink. (I’ve never heard anyone in New York describe a drink as “too strong” and I’ve never heard anyone outside New York describe a drink as “too weak”).

  11. 11.

    JMG

    August 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    This is what my parents drink. I’m pretty much a beer and wine guy, but these do taste good.

    J&B Old-Fashioned.

    2. oz J&B scotch
    dashes of Angostura bitters
    orange slice
    lemon slice
    club soda to fill old-fashioned glass
    Most important- NO SUGAR!!!

  12. 12.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: No, it’s true. They’ve been planning it for a while.

    Remember, the people opposed to the NYC community center aren’t bigoted against Muslims, they’re just sensitive about a neighborhood they’ve never visited.

    If I lived closer to Florida I’d bring some Bibles and pictures of Jesus to burn. If you’re going to go first amendment, go all the way, I say.

  13. 13.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    @JMG:

    That sounds good.

  14. 14.

    mr. whipple

    August 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Good to see some of these old-timey drinks coming back in.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!

  15. 15.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    @DougJ: I love them too. I think most people expect them to taste like mojitos, which they don’t, ’cause (1) they don’t have mint, and (2) cachaca is not the same as rum.

  16. 16.

    MikeJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    @DougJ:

    rye manhattans

    I knew I had found the correct bar in town when I ordered a manhattan and quickly added, “do you have rye?” The bartender looked at me incredulously and said, “that’s what manhattans are made from.” I’ve also never had them ask any questions when I order a martini since they know “martini” means gin and dry vermouth. I’ll admit, sometimes I play the heretic and have my martins perfect, that is, half dry, half sweet vermouth.

  17. 17.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    I’m a G&T girl. I love, love, love tonic water. The gin is just a bonus. And always served with lime. Never lemon. Lemon ruins a perfectly good G&T.

    Directions:
    Add as much gin as you desire to glass.
    Add as much ice as you’d like.
    Fill with tonic.
    Stir if desired.
    Add squeeze of lime.

    Sit on porch, stoop, deck, or place of your choice and enjoy. Perfect for a hot day.

    I’m not too picky about the gin, but usually go with Tanqueray because that’s what I usually buy and the English and Scottish family members like it.

  18. 18.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    @DougJ: NYC or the upper wilderness area that is usually referred to as Canada? NY city residents at least used to overall be pretty moderate about drinks. I don’t think they’d complain about drinks being too strong, but I don’t think they favored strong drinks either.

    My grandparents used to drink old-fashioneds. Haven’t had one in ages. G&T is my weak spot.

  19. 19.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    @mr. whipple:

    Old-time drinks are the way to go. They figured that shit out and then people fucked up with vodka and bourbon and no vermouth. (I love bourbon but Manhattans are better with rye.)

  20. 20.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    @Violet: Have you tried Hendrick’s? It’s the best I’ve ever tasted, and I used to insist on Bombay Sapphire.

  21. 21.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    @MikeJ:

    So what do you do? 2 oz rye, 1/2 oz sweet vermouth, 1/2 oz dry vermouth. Or less vermouth?

    Also too: what is the best sweet vermouth?

  22. 22.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    @lacp:

    I like Seneca Drum and Bluecoat better than Hendricks, at least for martinis.

  23. 23.

    Katienorth

    August 21, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    This is a delicious alternative to a manhattan known as a Dirty Sheehy:

    2 oz rye whiskey
    1 oz Tuaca
    1 oz blood orange juice
    a few drops of orange bitters
    orange twist garnish

  24. 24.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    @Martin:

    G&T is my weak spot

    Me too. I had neighbors who used to make them in the early evening after work. We’d all sit outside as the heat of the day subsided, quietly getting blitzed. Nothing better than a good G&T.

  25. 25.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    @Violet: Give Plymouth a whirl. Tanqueray tastes like Pine-Sol. You might also give Citadelle a try – it’s very nice.

  26. 26.

    DFS

    August 21, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    There are good rum/fruit juice/sweetener drinks out there, but the trouble is that they’re outnumbered a gazillion to one by the bad ones. I usually recommend Jeff Berry’s version of the original Mai Tai recipe…

    Juice of one lime
    1 ounce aged Martinique rum
    1 ounce dark Jamaica rum
    1/2 ounce curacao
    1/4 ounce orgeat
    1/4 ounce sugar syrup

    Shake it all like hell with crushed ice and one lime shell, serve in an old-fashioned glass with more crushed ice and the other lime shell and a sprig of mint if you’re feeling fancy.

    It’s fun to go to chain restaurants, have a look at what they claim goes in a Mai Tai, and see that inevitably they have gotten every single ingredient wrong.

  27. 27.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    @lacp:
    I have not, but like I said I’m not picky about the gin. I’m all about the tonic water. I have had gin I don’t like all that well, so I guess there is good and bad gin, but I drink very little and can’t be bothered to spend a lot of money on expensive liquor.

  28. 28.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    @DougJ: I live in Philly, so your mention of Bluecoat warms my heart. I like Bluecoat also (haven’t tried Seneca Drum), but still go with Hendrick’s – hey, de gustibus and all that shit. Have you tried Philadelphia Distilling’s rye vodka or their absinthe yet? I’ve tried the vodka (and liked it a lot), but the absinthe is about $60/bottle, which is out of my range.

  29. 29.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    @Martin:
    Whenever I finish the gin I’ve got I’ll check back and see what brand to buy. I don’t expect that to happen soon unless I end up hosting Christmas.

  30. 30.

    MikeJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    @DougJ: Same total amount vermouth, just split half and half.

    The best vermouth of any kind is Vya. I often drink the red/sweet by itself.

  31. 31.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    @DFS:

    I like that one a lot, too, though I cut the extra simple sugar. Also, it’s even better if you add orange bitters. Great drink, though.

  32. 32.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    @MikeJ:

    I’ve had trouble finding that one in Rochester.

  33. 33.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal

    August 21, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    @Violet:

    I’m a G&T girl. I love, love, love tonic water. The gin is just a bonus. And always served with lime. Never lemon. Lemon ruins a perfectly good G&T.

    Uh, oh, we have something in common. Except my digestive system can only tolerate very limited amounts of carbonation. I’ve managed to find a substitute for every thing else (liquor for beer; iced tea for cola), but nothing that replaces tonic water.

    Oh, and Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury.

  34. 34.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    @Violet: Boy, you’re no fun at all – an intelligent drinker…..

  35. 35.

    PeakVT

    August 21, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Instructions: Pour beer in glass. For a stronger beer flavor, add dark beer.

    Improved.

  36. 36.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    @lacp:

    My serious gin drinking friend likes Hendrick’s for g&t, Seneca Drum for martini, or vice versa, I can’t remember. For me, there’s something about a Bluecoat martini that’s transporting.

  37. 37.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal:

    but nothing that replaces tonic water.

    Yeah, tonic is special. That would be tough to replace if you can’t handle carbonation. Is there anything you can take to help with carbonation, so you can enjoy the occasional G&T?

  38. 38.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal:

    I didn’t “get” that Ray Bradbury thing. I watched it because I generally like the stuff that Zoe person does — anyway, she’s a good respite from the Conors. It just seemed like an excuse for people to check out young women in the name of science fiction.

  39. 39.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal

    August 21, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    @Violet: Oh, I still have the occasional G&T. However, it is only occasional, and Diet Tonic Water used to be the beverage I drank in extreme quantities. Now it’s decaf iced tea.

  40. 40.

    MikeJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    @DougJ: Do you have a Wegmans? They’re what I miss most about the east coast. They always had everything, and if there was something I wanted, they’d get it.

  41. 41.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    @lacp:
    Heh. No, just cheap. And honestly, not that bothered about liquor. I do like tequila shots occasionally and I used to make a mean margarita, but it’s been ages since I’ve done that. I also make a nice mojito, and love those.

    But honestly, I don’t drink much, and the less I drink the more alcohol bothers me. I can’t sleep well if I drink and then I lose the entire next day. The last time I had anything to drink it was one glass of wine. I spent the entire next day vomiting. I don’t know if it was the alcohol (probably not) or the food (probably ate something bad) but I was sick, sick, sick. So I’m a little leery of having anything to drink at the moment. That was no fun at all.

  42. 42.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal

    August 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    @DougJ:

    It just seemed like an excuse for people to check out young women in the name of science fiction.

    Uhm, yeah. I’m trying to figure out what isn’t marvelous about that.

  43. 43.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    @Violet: Your gin lasts until Christmas? Shit, I’m lucky to get a bottle to last a week.

    Did I mention I like the stuff?

  44. 44.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    @MikeJ:

    We have a billion Wegman’s. This is Wegman’s HQ. The mothership is in Pittsford, about 8 minutes from my house.

  45. 45.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    @Martin:
    My gin lasts a long time. Honestly, I just don’t drink that much. Very occasionally I’ll have about a third of a beer with pizza. And a glass of wine once in awhile if I’m out, but that usually leaves me loopy. I’m the ultimate lightweight. At least I’m a cheap date. Heh.

  46. 46.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    @PeakVT: Yeah, I just assume beer == dark beer. If you can see through a glass of it, I don’t consider it beer.

  47. 47.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    @Violet: You’re not an intelligent drinker – you’re merely intelligent? Now I will have a sad, which I will chase with some of the cheap whiskey I have been drinking since I went online this p.m.

  48. 48.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @DougJ: I will say this: at my old job Wegman’s was one of our clients, and they were by far the easiest to deal with. Hiring competent staff is a big positive, plus they’re leaders in getting health and other benefits to their employees. Wish I had them out this way, but truth be told QFC ain’t all that bad.

  49. 49.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal:
    I can’t do diet drinks. The fake sweetener leaves such a bitter aftertaste for me, I can taste it for hours. I go full calorie or nothing. If I have more than one fake sweetener item in a day I’ll end up with a very angry digestive system.

  50. 50.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    @lacp: Don’t have a sad! Just enjoy your whiskey. Now that’s something I’ve never acquired a taste for. I just don’t get it. It tastes like paint thinner soaked in rubbing alcohol. Yecch. And yeah, I’ve tried the good stuff. Even done a tour of a distillery in Scotland. Still don’t get it.

  51. 51.

    Little Boots

    August 21, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    You scamps.

  52. 52.

    Little Boots

    August 21, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Yeah, whiskey. I gotta go with Violet. Vodka or gin.

  53. 53.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    @Violet: Definitely hit the right word with ‘acquired’ – I like whiskey, and I’ve never known anybody (including myself) who didn’t have to acquire a taste for it. I wouldn’t believe anybody who told me otherwise, either. If you’re not big on drinking, it makes no sense to try to get a taste for whiskey.

    A shameless Philly plug: DougJ noted the merits of Bluecoat gin. The same distiller makes Penn 1681 Rye Vodka. I strongly recommend it, with the caveat that I won’t reimburse you if you don’t like it.

  54. 54.

    Kirk Spencer

    August 21, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Hard Lemonade. Start with a classic lemonade recipe. For one, that’s 1/3 cup lemon juice (or juice of one lemon), 1/3 cup sugar, a dash of salt, and 2 cups of water. Stir till sugar and salt are dissolved, and pour over ice to serve.

    To make it hard:
    “Southern” lemonade, add one ounce of Jack Daniels.
    “Blind” lemonade, add one ounce vodka. Or Everclear if you’re feeling dangerous.

  55. 55.

    Little Boots

    August 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    @lacp:

    How many tries does it take?

  56. 56.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    @lacp:
    I think I’m not going to bother trying to like whiskey. But I will definitely try the Bluecoat gin the next time I need to buy some. Might even splurge and buy some anyway. I’ve been talking about a G&T so much it has made me want one!

  57. 57.

    KG

    August 21, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    My heart is split between rum and vodka. A simple vodka/tonic or Cuba Libre is so damn good. Also a big fan of a well made margarita (on the rocks of course).

    When it goes to beer, I follow the skin test. The beer must be darker than my skin. For me, that eliminates most pilsners and quite a few lagers. Luckily, the good stuff, ales and stouts are free game.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    I can’t handle gin at all, and I’ve never quite seen the point of vodka, but I’m with Violet on the wonderfulness of good tonic water. I love it all by itself over lots of ice and with a nice squodge of lime, but my favourite hot-weather drink is white rum and tonic. Zackly like a G&T or V&T, only with white rum.

    Also love dark rum and orange juice.

  59. 59.

    Little Boots

    August 21, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Does Vodka need a point? I thought the point was the whole, drinkie, drinkie thing.

  60. 60.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Ohhhhh…dark rum and OJ. Heaven.

  61. 61.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    @Little Boots: Well, I guess the main question is: how bad do you want it? Is there some specific reason you want to drink whiskey? If not, and if you don’t drink much alcohol, I don’t think it’s worth the time, money, or funky tastes.

    I drink everything, from $7.50/bottle “blended whiskey” to 30-yr-old Irish single malts. Obviously, if you want your whiskey experience to consist of something more than falling off the bar stool (not that there’s anything wrong with that, at least in most of the places where they know me), you’re going to be looking at high-end bourbons/ryes/scotches/irish/etc.

    Yes, there can be tasting rewards very much like wine, although the tastes involved are very different and the tasting process is very different as well (you rinse your mouth with water BEFORE you drink the whiskey). I can’t give you a tasting timeline, because I think it would involve how much homework (and $$$) you were willing to put in ahead of time. If you had some idea of the differences in whiskey going in, I’d say one whiskey-tasting session with perhaps 5-6 whiskeys (preferably all of the same kind-don’t mix bourbon and scotch) would let you know whether this is for you or not.

    Obviously, I’m not an expert – I’m a drunk. If there are any experts out there on this thread, please weigh in.

  62. 62.

    suzanne

    August 21, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I want this terrorist anchor baby to be born already so I can have a damn martini. Or a mojito. Or a margarita. Or a glass of wine. Or my entire liquor cabinet. ***sigh***

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    @Little Boots #59: IMHO, only if you’re trying to get drunkie drunkie.

  64. 64.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Oh, a site worth checking out is americandrink.net. Pretty good stuff there.

    Coincidentally, I just made a tom collins for the wife.

  65. 65.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    @suzanne: I don’t know if this will help you or not, but a good friend of mine just had her first baby, a girl. So it does come to an end.

    And I’m pretty sure the first thing she’ll want to drink is a bloody Mary made from her husband’s special habañero vodka. That part I don’t think helped much though. :)

  66. 66.

    Little Boots

    August 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    @lacp:

    Was kidding, mostly, lacp, as I’m assuming you are with the “don’t drink much alcohol,” but more seriously I have tried whiskey a few times, and I’ve heard whiskey aficionados go on about it, so I thought, maybe I just haven’t really given it a chance. But no, that’s probably not it, I can see.

    I’ll stick to gin and vodka. And I’m happy you found what you like.

    Cheers!

  67. 67.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    @Little Boots: Like the Sam Adams dude sez, “Always a good decision!”

  68. 68.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    August 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    I often think that the cocktail’s brilliance depends on where you drink it. I have had the unique opportunity of drinking a Singapore Sling in the Writers Bar in Raffles in Singapore. The absolute best Bloody Mary I ever drank was in a piano bar in Hong Kong, high above the city, with windows on all four sides, stunning views, the most perfect mix of tomato juice, vodka, salt and celery, in the most brilliant ambiance. I hate scotch with a vengance, but I quite happily sipped single malt in the Chiefs Mess in HMS Cochrane in Scotland on New Year’s Eve as a piper walked into the bar and played in the New Year. I remember drinking the dryest of dry martinis in the Bali Sol in Bali.

  69. 69.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    here’s my recipe for something i call “drunk”:

    Red Oak : 2 bottles
    Stella : 2 bottles
    White wine : whatever’s left in that bottle.
    Oban + rocks.
    something smokey.

    drink, one after the other, until you’re bored with the TV.

    yay!

    yay!

    yay!

  70. 70.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    @cleek:

    something smokey.

    I saw what you did there. :)

  71. 71.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Who are you, James Fucking Bond? I want to have those memories!

  72. 72.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    @Yutsano:
    let’s just call it a chaser

  73. 73.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Is true. They were denied a permit, but they are going to do it, anyway. Sigh.

    Drinks: I love the word treacle, and I love dark rum, so I will give it a shot.

    @Violet: T’aint nothing finer than a G&T in the summer, and you’re right–it’s the tonic that is the draw.

    Hm. I’m going to a birthday party tonight, and I was gonna bring my traditional drink (Maker’s Mark), but I’m suddenly craving gin and tonics.

    @Little Boots: I’m in the same boat when it comes to beer. I have been told often that I just have to find the right one. I tried all different kinds, but couldn’t find one I like, so I quit.

    Full disclosure: I am allergic to alcohol, least allergic to hard liquor, so I stick to the good stuff.

  74. 74.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    @suzanne: Aw, December will be here before you know it. #Pat pat# (your hand, not your stomach or your head).

    @cleek: Good lord. I would be passed out after the first one.

    Update eleven billionty and a hundred: I feel like getting drunk tonight. I think I may.

  75. 75.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    @Martin: Yeah, not getting mandatory vacation bites in those cases. It’s one of my pet causes for the next great social advancement for American labor, after EFCA. Cuz it ain’t happening without some damn good union leadership.

    @asiangrrlMN: Did someone say get drunk?

  76. 76.

    Cassidy

    August 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Coronita and grapefruit juice. Mix to taste.

  77. 77.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:
    it’s one bottle after the other… not all in a big kettle.

    cause that would be gross.

  78. 78.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    @cleek: Yes. I meant after the first glass of the first bottle. I am an extreme lightweight.

  79. 79.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    @cleek: You must be one of the young pups – geez, back in the day, we not only put it all in a kettle, we threw in som Alka-Seltzer for extra fizz.

  80. 80.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:
    ahh. :)
    that probably means you need practice. like anything, the more you do it, the longer it takes to beat you.

  81. 81.

    hilzoy

    August 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    “The absolute best Bloody Mary I ever drank was in a piano bar in Hong Kong … ”

    Once upon a time my sister and I tromped through a decent-sized chunk of SE Europe and the Middle East, looking for a strawberry daiquiri (I had never had one at the time; she thought I should.) Yugoslavian discos, dusty ouzo joints, various furtive attempts at bars in Egypt, and no success anywhere. Still, it was lots of fun looking for one, and seeing what people would come up with when we tried to explain what we were looking for, usually in some language that none of us spoke fluently.

  82. 82.

    burnspbesq

    August 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    The Mets and Pirates have busted out the Negro League unis tonight, so I’m looking at the Crawfords against the New York Cubans. Feel like I should be drinking a Ballantine Ale, the way I remember my late grandfather drinking Ballantine Ale while listening to Giants games.

  83. 83.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    @cleek: It means I’m allergic to alcohol, so I have a built-in STOP measure. I don’t always listen, and it’s always to my peril!

    @burnspbesq: That’s cool. I like old-timey unis.

  84. 84.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    ouch!

    some smart doctor should invent shots you can get for that. or, Allerga-A, where the A = booze.

  85. 85.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Wrong time of the year for this one, but it’s great in mid- to late-autumn and winter:
    Hot Apple Brandy Toddy
    Ingredients
    1 1/2 cups water
    3 tablespoons honey
    1/2 cup fresh lemon juice from a real lemon, not a bottle
    2 cups apple brandy, preferably Calvados
    Eight 3-inch cinnamon sticks
    Directions
    1.In small saucepan, bring the water to a boil. Remove from the heat and stir in the honey until dissolved. Stir in the lemon juice and apple brandy. Set a cinnamon stick in each of 8 mugs or heatproof glasses, pour in the hot liquid and serve.

    Basically, a toddy as many of you from colder climes know, is any hard liquor in hot water, but Gin and Vodka don’t work very well.

  86. 86.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    @cleek: Well, many Asians don’t have the enzyme to break down alcohol. That’s why we turn red. I have a hard time breathing in addition, which is not pleasant.

    @soonergrunt: That sounds yummmmmy, but of course, I am a winter gal all the way. How you be?

  87. 87.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    @soonergrunt: Sooner, I’d love to pump a few of those in January/February here in Pennsylvania. That looks like a great recipe to alternate with Irish coffee every other day – the Calvados kills it.

  88. 88.

    RSA

    August 21, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    So that’s treacle. No wonder the Dormouse was always falling asleep.

  89. 89.

    suzanne

    August 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    @Yutsano: Habañero vodka?!

    That sounds amazing.

    Of course, right now, if I even LOOK at spicy food, the Terrorist Anchor Baby incites my digestive system into a riot. Little bastard.

    O/T, but I’ve decided that slide #9 from this slideshow is how I’ll always remember Hitch when he abandons this mortal coil.

  90. 90.

    Bruce (formerly Steve S.)

    August 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    The best “mixed” drink is simple vodka and orange juice for the following reasons:

    1. Who in the hell doesn’t like it?
    2. Easy to get unsuspecting young drinkers silly drunk on it — see 1 above.
    3. Obviously, I’m just kidding about 2 above.
    4. But hypothetically, if you wanted to get an inexperienced drinker silly drunk, not that you would, but if you did, vodka and orange juice is the ideal delivery system.
    5. Just kidding about 4. What a terrible idea.

  91. 91.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:
    I’m doing OK. Holding together. The 8th of September is not going to be here soon enough. How are you? And I agree about being a winter person. I grew up in Colorado, and first snow was always the start of my favorite time of year. Holidays, skiing, snugging in on Sunday with my family and watching football. My mother was an absolute fanatic for the Denver Broncos.

  92. 92.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    @lacp: I haven’t found any apple brandy as good. Also, I rarely have a good business trip, but my last one was to Wilkes-Barre, PA for a conference at Tobyhanna Army Depot a couple of years ago. It was mid-October and the leaves were in full color-change mode just like the Aspens every fall when I was a kid. I arrived a day early for a pre-meeting that only took about 10 minutes so i drove all over the place that day and loved it. I changed my return flight to a day later and drove around some more after the conference.

  93. 93.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    @Bruce (formerly Steve S.):
    Lolz. I remember being one of those unsuspecting young drinkers. Hoo boy was I a mess the next day. Had no idea what I was getting myself in for. The OJ tasted so good!

  94. 94.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    @soonergrunt:

    My mother was an absolute fanatic for the Denver Broncos.

    This is a treatable condition. Oh and they’re already calling Jesus Boy a bust. I don’t know whether to laugh or…aww hell I’m just gonna laugh.

  95. 95.

    Tattoosydney

    August 21, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    OT – fuck the voters, fuck them all.

  96. 96.

    demo woman

    August 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Not a drink but definitely a hard core appetizer. Freeze a bag of cherry tomatoes with a good quality vodka. Serve with toothpicks and kosher salt. It’s a nice summer treat. @soonergrunt: After your surgery and your stitches are out, you can drink with us. We will want to keep an eye on you so you don’t drown in the toilet. I saw your comment earlier and we will be there for you.

  97. 97.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    @Tattoosydney: I noticed that. Ouch. You know if you relocate to Vancouver A) Bradley could get a job there like yesterday B) the Canadian bar is not far off from the Australian one C) there are several awesome culinary schools there and D) you two would be fully and legally married with no bullshit. Of course you’d have to deal with Harper and his level of fuckitude, but I get the feeling he’s not long for Ottawa.

    @soonergrunt: I was this close to nagging you for getting your blood pressure up a couple of threads back, but you got talked back from the ledge and I decided not to show off. But if it becomes necessary I’ll do it. :)

  98. 98.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    @demo woman #97, soonergrunt by extension: So sorry, I must have missed an important update. Sooner, I take it surgery is scheduled soon? I’m sure you posted about this elsewhere and I just didn’t see, so rather than repeat everything, maybe you could just point me to the right thread. Have certainly been thinking about you all week, so it’s not for lack of caring!

  99. 99.

    demo woman

    August 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: He’s going to have the mass removed on the 8th, I think. He can respond with more updates but plans on celebrating when his stitches are removed.

  100. 100.

    Jeff

    August 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    According to my understanding of the rules of cocktails, that drink should be shaken instead of stirred.

  101. 101.

    PIGL

    August 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    1) Place one (1) bottle of good Polish rye vodka in freezer.

    2) Wait at least three hours.

    3) If !Vitamins.Missing then
    Fill standard shot glass to 1.5oz line, and sip.
    else
    Pour three fingers into highball glass, add a few fingers of Rose’s Lime Cordial or fresh-squeezed lime juice, plus ice.
    endif

    4) GOTO 3.

  102. 102.

    DougJ

    August 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    @soonergrunt:

    That sounds pretty good.

  103. 103.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Surgery is scheduled for 7:00 AM on the 8th of September. They want to let my lungs heal up a bit before the big event.
    @Yutsano: Well, that thread seems to have petered out. A lot of talking past each other. I did something the other day that I swore I would never do, which is downloaded and installed Cleek’s pie filter. I have a couple of people in there, and am debating adding one or two more. I’d rather not but life’s too short to be pissed off a lot, even if it’s longer than the 8th of September.
    As for the Broncos, I’ve been a fan since I was a kid and when my Mom died of lung cancer last summer the only thing I wanted was her four Denver Broncos throw blankets. My wife and sisters and daughter and nieces all got her jewelry. I got the real treasure. I have a real conflict aboutTebow. I want him to fail badly, but that requires the Broncos to be damaged too. It’s like auto-schadenfreude.
    @demo woman: I am soooooo there. I wonder if that would work with store-bought cherry tomatoes. Probably not as well as the grown ones.

  104. 104.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @DougJ: Supposedly you can do this with peach brandy as well, but I’ve never tried it, and I would think that the super-sweetness of most peach brandies would be overpowering.

  105. 105.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    @demo woman #100: Thanks for the update. I’ll join in the celebration for sure.

    @soonergrunt #104: I expect you’re thinking that the next two weeks will be among the longest of your life. The waiting’s a bitch, isn’t it? But you have a huge fan club here (and I daresay many more elsewhere) who are sending you healing thoughts.

  106. 106.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    @soonergrunt: Not necessarily. Ask wifey, it is entirely possible to love your team but absolutely HATE your quarterback. Granted she’s dealing with an old man who needs to give up, you are stuck with an ego the size of Texas that pretends he’s God’s gift to football and he’s gonna save us all at the same time. Oh and the whole bullshit virginity story pretty much put it to rest for me, you got yourself one helluva gem there. Vaya con Dios.

  107. 107.

    itputsthelotion

    August 21, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Lawnmower

    1 part wheatgrass juice
    1 part vodka

    mix in a mason jar, serve at room temperature.

  108. 108.

    itputsthelotion

    August 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I once had a Bellini at Harry’s Bar in Venice. Worth every penny.

  109. 109.

    WereBear (itouch)

    August 21, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I get drunk very easily on gin. My friends know this.

    Gin is not my friend.

  110. 110.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    @Yutsano: Well, I can pray for a well-placed hit and run in the Denver area, right? Nothing that will kill him, just end his career, mind. You don’t think God would smite me for that, do you? I don’t ask for much.

  111. 111.

    Yutsano

    August 21, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    @soonergrunt: You may not even need to expend the karma. He hasn’t practiced for two weeks, and he keeps getting bruised and banged up. AMAZING how the scouts were possibly RIGHT about his possible drawbacks.

  112. 112.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    @soonergrunt:

    life’s too short to be pissed off a lot,

    that’s the only reason it exists.

    some trolls, the true trolls, exist only to bait and derail. they can’t be “reasoned with” or logically defeated because the only reason they come here is to annoy. they want your attention, not your insight, not your point of view, not even to pursued you. annoyance is their M.O., so the only way to defeat them is to ignore them completely.

  113. 113.

    cdmarine

    August 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Drink recipes? Why, yes.

    Lindemann’s Gingernut Tea

    4 parts ginger ale (Vernor’s is extra nice)
    3 parts macadamia nut liqueur (try Trader Vic’s)
    2 parts coconut rum
    fresh lime juice (1/4 – 1/2 lime per serving, to taste)

    Mix ingredients in a separate glass or container, then pour over crushed ice in a tall glass.
    Do not skip the crushed ice. The ice smooths and brightens the flavor, as well as keeping the drink from being too sweet or syrupy. If you have to use regular ice cubes, let the drink sit for awhile to let the ice melt a little, then stir and enjoy.

    Tropical Depression
    (by the pitcherful: about 4 – 5 tall glasses)

    6 c. orange juice
    1-1/2 c. passion fruit rum
    1 c. coconut rum
    1 c. red soda pop (Big Red-recommended, Faygo Red Pop, etc.)
    fresh lime juice (1/4 – 1/2 lime per serving, to taste)

    Mix ingredients and serve with ice (crushed or cubed). When I make this by the glass, I just eyeball the amounts.
    This is, essentially, a poor man’s hurricane, but without the cloying sweetness and artificiality of the mixes. Even the best of the mixes (say, Pat O’Briens) is full of dyes and nasty, syrupy gunk. This is light and fruity and yummy, and it won’t leave you feeling like you’ve been sucking on alcoholic sno-cones all day.

    … and finally…

    The Secret to a Great Mint Julep

    Cook the simple syrup with mint, and caramelize it.

    Caramelizing the syrup gives an incredibly smooth, slightly toasted nut flavor to the bourbon and mint. Worlds above your average mint julep.

  114. 114.

    cdmarine

    August 21, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Oh, also too. The best gin I’ve ever had for tonics (not good for martinis, though) is Northshore #6. It’s a Chicago distillery. They don’t say it on any of their promotional materials, but to me it has a very distinct pepperminty note that is ridiculously great with tonic. Most specialty liquor stores in the midwest would probably have it (or could certainly obtain it). I don’t know if they distribute nationally.

  115. 115.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    August 21, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    @WereBear (itouch):

    Gin is not my friend.

    So gin doesn’t know that it gets you drunk easily? I highly doubt that. Gin is a sneaky little bastard.

  116. 116.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    @cleek:
    not even to pursued you. ?

    pursued = persuade

    spellcheck = fickle mistress

  117. 117.

    cleek

    August 21, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    @lacp:
    hendricks + tonic + cucumber = heaven

    nothing like it

  118. 118.

    Jane2

    August 21, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Find some cachaca at your liquor outlet, and understand why Brazil should rule summer everywhere: simple, potent, refreshing and delicious:

    2 tsp granulated sugar
    8 lime wedges
    2 1/2 oz Cachaca

    Muddle the sugar into the lime wedges in an old-fashioned glass. Fill the glass with ice cubes. Pour the cachaca into the glass. Stir well.

  119. 119.

    soonergrunt

    August 21, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    @cleek: I try very hard to not block people. I’ve always thought that you have to try to give people many chances to show you something new and cool because you never know what you’re going to see that might change your life.
    On the other hand, there are people in the meat world that you go out of your way to avoid for many or all of the reasons that you stated in your post. Somebody out there has or probably will soon do the same thing to me.
    I like pie. Thank you so much.
    You should think about getting a paypal button. Really, dude.

    @cleek: I hate it when I do that. I was like “what the hell does he mean by ‘not even to pursued you?’ Aren’t some of them pursuing already, like stalking, and isn’t that kind of the point…”

  120. 120.

    Cain

    August 21, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    @JMG:

    This is what my parents drink. I’m pretty much a beer and wine guy, but these do taste good.

    I used to be like that. Then one fine day I moved jobs and everyone there were hard liquor drinkers. They knew all the good stuff. It started off with scotch and it just went off from there. I LOVE scotch now.

    cain

  121. 121.

    Joseph Nobles

    August 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    I like a Fuzzy Navel made with grapefruit juice instead of orange juice. It cuts the sweet way down and is a really nice mix with the peach schnaps. I call it a Ruby Navel.

    Also, I’ve tried and liked margaritas made with grapefruit juice instead of sweet and sour. I call them a Magdalene.

  122. 122.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 22, 2010 at 12:39 am

    @Martin:

    Perfect. Thought the same when I read, “Got any good drink recipes?”.

    BFO+5

  123. 123.

    DPirate

    August 22, 2010 at 3:04 am

    Strong black coffee and licorice brandy.

    White Russian with coffee brandy in place of kahlua.

  124. 124.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 22, 2010 at 3:34 am

    @soonergrunt: I’m all right. I am also all about rooting for my team while rooting for the quarterback to get a concussion (Yutsy is right about that). I installed the adapted pie filter for Chrome after swearing I would never do it. Like you said, life is just too damn short. I’ll be sending you good vibes all the way through and past Sept. 8th.

  125. 125.

    Dave

    August 22, 2010 at 3:34 am

    @DougJ: Best sweet vermouth: Carpano Antica, supposedly based on the recipe for the original sweet vermouth by Antonio Benedetto Carpano. It will probably run you about $25 for a liter bottle. Totally worth it – its a bit drier than most sweet vermouths and far more intensely herbal. It has a very clean finish and can easily be drunk over ice as an aperitif. Also fantastic 50-50 with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice over ice with a salt rim – an Italian greyhound. Will elevate any Manhattan made with it, even if using a value rye like Old Overholt. Absolutely fantastic with Rittenhouse 100. Great in a Negroni, but use a gin with a very firm juniper backbone, otherwise the Carpano will clobber the gin.

  126. 126.

    Dave

    August 22, 2010 at 3:40 am

    Couple samples from my own booze blog, if I may pimp myself – (barmancometh.wordpress.com/)

    New Orleans Buck

    1 1/2 oz. light rum
    1/2 oz. orange juice
    1/2 oz. lime juice
    2 dashes peychaud’s bitters

    Shake with ice & strain into ice-filled highball glass. Top with ginger beer.

    Use a rhum agricole blanc for a more complex twist.
    Always use fresh-squeezed juices.

    The Recoil

    1.5 oz bourbon
    0.5 oz St. Germain elderflower liqueur
    0.5 oz lime juice

    Shake with ice until frosty & strain into Mason jar filled with ice. Top with ginger beer.

  127. 127.

    Origuy

    August 22, 2010 at 4:22 am

    I’ll have to try the treacle. I don’t have apple juice, but I have everything else.
    I learned to drink Scotch in preparation for a trip to Scotland. There’s a big difference between Speyside and Island whiskys.

    I’ve got a big pile of mint. One of these days I’m going to try to make a mojito.

    If John ever makes peace with Paypal, he should add a line that says “Terrorist Anchor Baby”. Hopefully in time for suzanne to get a onesie with that on it.

  128. 128.

    hurricanesmith

    August 22, 2010 at 4:26 am

    The Gin Rickey. Greatest drink ever conceived of.

    Put three or four ice cubes in a tall glass.

    Pour 1.5 ounces of gin over the ice.

    Squeeze in the juice of half a lime, then toss in the rind.

    Top off with club soda.

    This is the best way to ease your way into a summer night. Invented by some Army guy! (Named Rickey.)

  129. 129.

    newsouthzach

    August 22, 2010 at 6:22 am

    @Tattoosydney:
    I hear you. I didn’t exactly move to Aussieland to escape American politics, but I thought y’all would be a little more sane over here.

    Oh well. Rome didn’t fall in a day, either.

  130. 130.

    Michael D.

    August 22, 2010 at 9:33 am

    @Litlebritdifrnt: My partner and I have agreed that, if we hear of such a thing happening in Atlanta, we’re going to go buy a few Bibles and burn them at whatever church is hosting the event.

  131. 131.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 22, 2010 at 10:09 am

    @litlebritdifrnt #7
    @Michael D. #131

    The pastor of that Gainesville, Florida church, Terry Jones, is a native of Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

    Rush Limbaugh is a native of Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

    Coincidence??

  132. 132.

    soonergrunt

    August 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    No, it is not coincidence, any more than two hardcore right-wing nutcases coming from Orange County would be. Cape Girardeau is Missouri’s version of the OC, and when you think about how right-wing the typical Missourian is (I lived there for the three most miserable years of my life from 11 to 14) that’s really saying something.
    They’re fucking out there in CG.

    The Broncos lost yesterday against the frickin Detroit frickin Lions!
    Next game is against the Steelers on the 29th at Denver.
    And I posted this at 11:57 Central Time. Why does it show as Atlantic Time? Is that a server setting or something?

  133. 133.

    Kered (formerly Derek)

    August 22, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    @JMG:

    This in no way resembles an Old-Fashioned, especially with the omission of sugar. Sorry.

    I need to close this thread before I see more recipes like this.

  134. 134.

    Kered (formerly Derek)

    August 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    @DougJ:

    Undoubtedly, Carpano Antica Formula is the best sweet vermouth known to man.

  135. 135.

    Kered (formerly Derek)

    August 22, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    @Martin:

    Idiot.

  136. 136.

    Kered (formerly Derek)

    August 22, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Why did I read this whole thread anyway? I have a disease.

    Anyway, an original drink recipe:

    Strawberry Fields

    2 oz bourbon or rye
    1/2 oz honey water (equal parts honey, water; otherwise honey freezes when put in a cocktail)
    1/2 oz grenadine (homemade is best, of course)
    1/2 oz lime juice
    3-4 dashes of Peychaud’s Bitters
    1 strawberry, quartered

    Shake very hard with ice and strain over fresh ice into an old-fashioned glass. Garnish with a strawberry.

  137. 137.

    Dave

    August 22, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    @Kered (formerly Derek): Well, it does resemble an old-fashioned for folks of a certain generation. Beyond that, I agree – whatever that is, it’s not an old-fashioned.

    Sugar cube + barspoon water to dissolve (sub 1/4 oz. simple syrup)

    Couple dashes bitters. Whiskey (rye or bourbon). Add ice (blocky). Stir. Take orange or lemon peel. Express oils. Garnish.

    No soda water. No muddled oranges and engine-red cherries. No Scotch.

  138. 138.

    pjcamp

    August 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I dunno.

    Probably be better if you put a little sugar in it.

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