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Two Words: Whitey Tape

by John Cole|  August 21, 201012:59 pm| 106 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    I’ll believe it when I hear it. And even then, only after its been verified as authentic.

  2. 2.

    Wordsmith

    August 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Please excuse this; this is just a knee-jerk reaction on my part.

    Ya know….these people – SMH – they’re just evil, EVIL. They have nothing better to do than destroy anything good or promotes fellowship. They’re not human.

    Off to get bricks to build a goddamned wall.

  3. 3.

    Sentient Puddle

    August 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    @Violet: Given the source is apparently Pam Geller, I think I’ll stick with plain not believing it.

  4. 4.

    Cat Lady

    August 21, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    I’m not getting out of the boat, but I’m hoping it’s all a rickroll.

  5. 5.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Don’t these people ever sleep? Geez, it must be hard to keep that level of hate up over the weekend.

  6. 6.

    Derelict

    August 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The source is Africa Press International, the most trusted name in yet-to-be-released tapes.

  7. 7.

    beltane

    August 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Is that a picture of Johnny Rotten?

  8. 8.

    J.W. Hamner

    August 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Screw you guys, I’m going to see Scott Pilgrim.

  9. 9.

    Violet

    August 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    @Sentient Puddle:
    Yeah, that’s my starting point. And if Breitbart’s involved in any way, it’s obvious fake. That’s if it even exists, of course.

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 21, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. This guy has been vetted by the FBI, the State Department, and presumably half a dozen overlapping intelligence agencies. What resources do they have compared to a crank with an internet connection?

  11. 11.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Good thing there aren’t any tapes around of Tunch plotting the overthrow of Cole’s couch or anything … oh, wait.

  12. 12.

    beltane

    August 21, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    @Sentient Puddle: A Pam Gellar/Andrew Breitbart production?

  13. 13.

    Kryptik

    August 21, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    @Sentient Puddle:

    Which is precisely why we should expect all the news channels to be waiting breathlessly for the tape, and eating time up with rampant speculation about how Rauf might be Bin Laden’s secret brother-in-law once removed.

    Because obviously, Pam Gellar is the most senior authority on this all.

  14. 14.

    Montysano

    August 21, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    I was channel surfing the other night, and sweet jabbering Jeebus, who do I see on Hannity? Pam Geller, performing acts of punditry. Bob Marley immediately came to mind: “This could be the first trumpet, might as well be the last”.

  15. 15.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    @Kryptik:
    Just out of curiosity, what does Pam Geller do IRL? Other than be a total bigoted ass?

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 21, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    @Montysano:

    sweet jabbering Jeebus, who do I see on Hannity? Pam Gellar, performing acts of punditry

    Fuck, that’s just water finding its own level. She was on CNN several times. But perhaps I’m being redundant

  17. 17.

    Kryptik

    August 21, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I have no idea, but I presume it involves watching TV and marking down names to report to the FBI for sounding too swarthy and Arab.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: She was married to a Long Island car dealer (mega-dealer, I think is the industry term). She got a huge settlement, escaped indictment when he got nailed for fraud, and now spews hate on the internet and, for reasons I’m sure Campbell “Real News” Brown could explain to us, CNN.

  19. 19.

    Mark S.

    August 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    What the hell is Weasel Zippers? It is apparently the most trusted news source on memeorandum, since it shows up on practically every goddamn item.

  20. 20.

    roshan

    August 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    The Park51 center seems to be the same size as it’s Imam.

  21. 21.

    The Bearded Blogger

    August 21, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    It has become depressing in its predictability

  22. 22.

    Politically Lost

    August 21, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    I’m going to admit something.

    The only reason I know of the existence of Memorandum is because of Mr. Cole linking to it in order to make a point.

    I’ve never once clicked through from his link because the names on the Memo stories are always like Andrew McCarthy, or Ace of Spades and such. Further, the headlines are ALWAYS counterfactual.

    I haven’t clicked on any of those Memo stories because I believe the result will be like when Mickey Mouse gets dosed with insecticide, or when Alice drops the shrooms, or when Neo chooses to eat the pill etc. It’s always tempting to take free drugs, I have succumbed many times in the past.

    In essence, I think John is trying to melt my brain with atomic powered stupid. Will not click link, no matter the depth of snark buzz available from the stupid.

  23. 23.

    The Bearded Blogger

    August 21, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    @Politically Lost: Mickey Mouse on insecticide?

  24. 24.

    KCinDC

    August 21, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    ADVISORY: Islamophobic hatemonger Pamela is named Geller (like spoon bender Uri), not Gellar (like Buffy‘s Sarah Michelle).

  25. 25.

    lost in GA

    August 21, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    @ beltane Indeed that is Mr. Rotten during his PIL days I believe.

  26. 26.

    Leo

    August 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    With this and the Assange warrant being issued and withdrawn the course of a few hours we may have reached a new, never-before-seen frontier in baseless smearing and slander this morning.

  27. 27.

    stuckinred

    August 21, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: From Urbana, left in 84.

  28. 28.

    Politically Lost

    August 21, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Bearded: That was a classic cartoon. Mickey is in his garden trying to kill bugs with his old school bug sprayer and ends up squirting himself in the face with a cloud of instant acid trip. Find it if you can, it was in color. There was a black and white episode where Mickey falls asleep and “sleeping” Mickey wakes up and walks to a mirror and enters a parallel world that was wild too.

    I swear Disney and his crew were all heads.

  29. 29.

    The Bearded Blogger

    August 21, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    @Leo: Harry Reid is a Mormomuslim!

  30. 30.

    joe from Lowell

    August 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Whitey Tape is right.

    If they had anything, they would have led with it, like they led with the edited Rev. Wright tape, and the edited Sherrod Tape, and the edited ACORN video. They didn’t set any of those up with a week-long “It’s coming!” campaign – they let the powerful words and imagery speak for themselves.

    As with the Whitey tape, as with Breitbartolypse, when they say they’ve got something coming, they’re full of crap.

  31. 31.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Geller is just shooting off her mouth and hitting her foot as usual.
    Rauf and his wife are totally the most ‘moderate’ muslims the west can hope for. they are goofy sufi lovebunnies, all into that interfaith crap, and OBL reguards them as total maftoons (read uncle toms or gungas).

  32. 32.

    quaint irene

    August 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Is that a picture of Johnny Rotten?

    I thought it was Martin Short in one of his more insane roles.

  33. 33.

    The Bearded Blogger

    August 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    @Politically Lost: Never seen it, would really like to. I’ll check the youtube later.

    Fantasia could be sufficient evident for your claim.

  34. 34.

    mcd410x

    August 21, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Digby pointed this out the other day, re: The Confederate Party. Lincoln says it in his Cooper Union address far better than I can:

    “… The question recurs, what will satisfy them? Simply this: We must not only let them alone, but we must somehow, convince them that we do let them alone. This, we know by experience, is no easy task. We have been so trying to convince them from the very beginning of our organization, but with no success. In all our platforms and speeches we have constantly protested our purpose to let them alone; but this has had no tendency to convince them. Alike unavailing to convince them, is the fact that they have never detected a man of us in any attempt to disturb them.

    “These natural, and apparently adequate means all failing, what will convince them? This, and this only: cease to call slavery wrong, and join them in calling it right. And this must be done thoroughly – done in acts as well as in words. Silence will not be tolerated – we must place ourselves avowedly with them. Senator Douglas’ new sedition law must be enacted and enforced, suppressing all declarations that slavery is wrong, whether made in politics, in presses, in pulpits, or in private. We must arrest and return their fugitive slaves with greedy pleasure. We must pull down our Free State constitutions. The whole atmosphere must be disinfected from all taint of opposition to slavery, before they will cease to believe that all their troubles proceed from us. …”

  35. 35.

    J sub D

    August 21, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    I would vote for a politician who would stand up and say “This whole debate about the community center on Park is fucking stupid and people should just STFU and get on with their lives”.

    But that probably isn’t going to happen.

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    @Politically Lost #28:

    *I swear Disney and his crew were all heads*

    Ever seen Fantasia stoned?

  37. 37.

    Nately's Whore's Kid Sister

    August 21, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    @Politically Lost: No worries. If you’ve ever managed to read an entire freeper thread without having your head explode or losing all faith in humanity, you can read it without going into meltdown.

    OTOH, if recent encounters of any kind have left you temporarily immunodeficient, give it a pass.

  38. 38.

    KCinDC

    August 21, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Of course my comment linking to the Mickey video was eaten. Maybe this’ll work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r45taz9Boi0#t=3m20

  39. 39.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    I had no idea you had managed to fit conversations with OBL into your busy schedule. What with being a second Einstein and America’s Youngest Secret Agent, I really don’t know how you manage it.

  40. 40.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I’ve seen Oliver Stone. Does that count?

  41. 41.

    smiley

    August 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    @Politically Lost: Check the name of that web site again. It’sMemeorandom. It’s a “what are people writing about and what are they saying about it” type of web site. Granted, it can be pretty depressing at times. And now is one of those times.

  42. 42.

    Mnemosyne

    August 21, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    One of my all-time favorite Disney cartoons — Pluto dreams that he ends up in Hell being judged by a jury of all cats:

    Pluto’s Judgement Day

    ETA: Fun fact: That’s Walt Disney doing the voice of Mickey — he personally voiced Mickey in everything up until 1946.

  43. 43.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    @morzer:

    What with being a second Einstein and America’s Youngest Secret Agent, I really don’t know how you manage it.

    ive been debriefed.

  44. 44.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    I think you mean debagged.

  45. 45.

    middlewest

    August 21, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    It’s amazing when you realize that our media, the republicans, and some dumbocrats are allowing a woman who sympathizes with neo-nazis and holocaust deniers to slander a Muslim activist who vigorously supports Israel’s right to exist. In a sane world, wouldn’t AIPAC be squashing this like a bug?

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 21, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    @morzer #40: Yeah, him and Rock Hudson and Mike Gravel.

  47. 47.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Must have been some good stuff. How was the Gravelanche?

  48. 48.

    Politically Lost

    August 21, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Fantasia is the Ultimate evidence of my proposition, and yes I’ve partook while enjoying it. Kind of a right of passage don’t you think?

    However, back in the 80’s, the Disney Channel wasn’t the tweener chum bucket it is today. It used to constantly play the original Disney cartoons. There were many an afternoon where I enjoyed seeing those cartoons just knowing that old Walt and the boys were toking along with me.

  49. 49.

    Shalimar

    August 21, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    @Leo: The day is still young.

  50. 50.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    if n/e should be interested in what actual muslim captive experts think about Rauf, you can read the thread here.

  51. 51.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    @morzer:
    I’m just glad we have the expert on all things judeo-christiano-islamic to set us whiteys straight about MENA, IQ and g, and EDK’s slaveholding embryos.

  52. 52.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    @morzer:

    I think you mean debagged.

    ? what does that mean?

  53. 53.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    @matoko_chan:
    “muslim captive experts”? What exactly does that mean in the context of that thread?

  54. 54.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: that would be slave-embryos, not slave-holding embryos.

  55. 55.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    @matoko_chan:
    You need to fix your snarkometer.

  56. 56.

    kay

    August 21, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    She got a huge settlement, escaped indictment when he got nailed for fraud, and now spews hate on the internet and, for reasons I’m sure Campbell “Real News” Brown could explain to us, CNN.

    That’s the other thing. Major media ordinarily treat religious issues with such deference. They all put on their serious, respectful faces and call on university professors to comment.

    Except this religion. Where the expert they call is the car dealer’s ex-wife.

  57. 57.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: meh. its an old AI term from building rule-based systems.
    captive experts just means amerimuslims in the context.

  58. 58.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    @kay:

    car dealer’s ex-wife.

    I like it. Get that on a chyron somewhere:

    Pam Gellar
    car dealer’s ex-wife

  59. 59.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 21, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    @matoko_chan:
    Is it neutral, or am I picking up some derogatory overtones from that?

  60. 60.

    Davis X. Machina

    August 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    In a sane world, wouldn’t AIPAC be squashing this like a bug?

    In a sane world would any of us know who AIPAC was without looking it up first?

  61. 61.

    ricky

    August 21, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @<a href="#comment-

    I have seen some of Pammy's vid blogs in her bikini.
    Do you have a link to one which reveals her big ass being nailed by a car dealer?

  62. 62.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debagging

    Can it be that the great secret agent and polymath of our day doesn’t know how to use teh Google?

  63. 63.

    lacp

    August 21, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Isn’t it obvious? Imam Rauf and Julian Assange are actually…the same person! Have you ever seen them together? Huh? Well, have you?

  64. 64.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    @lacp:

    I’ve never seen them together with Matoko-chan or Emperor Xenu either. Alarming, isn’t it?

  65. 65.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    @morzer: no, i meant how does that apply to me in context? what do you mean? how was i debagged?

  66. 66.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    Clearly, we are not putting enough education on our kids. We really need to improve reading comprehension and problem solving.

  67. 67.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: hmm…actually its positive. captive experts have the best domain knowledge.
    :)
    i just meant that if you read that thread there is a lot of argument about Rauf. several prominent posters argue that the mosque should be moved.

    Building a Muslim center with a mosque without peaceful consensus and in the midst of controversy is tremendously unwise. For the present and for the future.
    Our faith advocates a practicality that leftist rhetoric doesn’t have space for. Islam works in the level of the real, and in the level of the real, there are numerous negative consequences to not presenting a spirit of compromise and remaining unbudging and stubborn in the face of all this.
    I pray Allah grants us all the wisdom of compassion and fair-minded contemplation derived from the beauty and example of His text above all others.

    Aziz sez:

    Look, Rauf’s absence is inexcusable. He was in Malaysia, then he was back, then he left again for the State Dept trip. AEveryone else, including his wife (Daisy Khan) and Sharif have ben taking interviews, facing hostile crowds, dealing with hostile questions, but he has floated away.
    Like it or not, he has to answer some of the oncerns about him because he is still seen as the driver of the project. He has a responsibility and he is not upholding it.
    Like I said I could have easily written an article about Rauf and why he isnt the terror-lovin Imam that his detractors make him out to be. But what is the point? I have no credibility if the subject of my defense wont make minimal effort on his own behalf.

    durr, muslims arent monolithic.

  68. 68.

    Uloborus

    August 21, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    @morzer:
    Man, Matoko’s said some odd things, but she’s not the only person I’ve heard this from. OBL hates moderate Muslims way more than he hates America. We’re just an excuse for recruiting. His goal is to overthrow moderate Islamic or secular governments of Islam-dominated nations and replace them with Taliban-style extreme theocracies.

    Bush and Cheney were patsies that made him look better. People like Rauf are the threat to a guy like him.

  69. 69.

    ricky

    August 21, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    This just in:

    Pam Geller Linked by FOX affiliate to murders of Ground Zero first responder associates.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_ufV1Zj9XnA9Qn0Ukjs8QJM;jsessionid=764C7BA312FD6D4B7F135ABE5BCD7E18

    Well, if the bikini fits….

  70. 70.

    GregB

    August 21, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Good God. I tooled around over at Atlass Shruggs. If I were an Amercan Muslim I would be seriously thinking about an escape plan.

    We keep on hearing from the far right that America is Germany in the 30’s. It may be coming true only there won’t be brown shirts, they’ll be wearing red, white and blue and carrying crosses.

  71. 71.

    Svensker

    August 21, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    @KCinDC:

    That is terrifying. Glad I didn’t see it when I was a kid.

  72. 72.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    here is my favorite picture of uber-skank Geller humping puffy buffoon Roobart Sbunsars (Robert Spencer’s) leg.

    loonwatch is our antidote to the deeeply stupid jihadwatch and the even more moronic (if possible) atlasshrugged.

  73. 73.

    Gen. Jrod and his Howling Army

    August 21, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    NEXT WEEK: “The release of the explosive Rauf tapes has been delayed for another week, due to, um, opposition from the Dhimhicrat Party and, uh, Islamofascists. Yeah, that’s the ticket. THEY DON’T WANT GOOD AMERICANS LIKE YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH! In the meantime, buy our book; or, get it for FREE with a subscription to The National Review! Operators are standing by.”

  74. 74.

    Martin

    August 21, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    My vote is a tape of Eddie Murphy as Tyrone Green performing ‘Kill the White People’ with Rauf’s face edited in.

  75. 75.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    @Uloborus:

    What amuses me is Matoko’s habit of repeating cliches as if she had just discovered them, or was even the source of the data in question. Given her alternate reality as a spy and social theorist, one wonders how she fits her frantic activities into 24 hours a day.

  76. 76.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    @morzer: really? that ‘muslims will vote for shariah when they can vote’ couldn’t have been much of a cliche or we wouldn’t have wasted a trillion dollars and 6000 soldier lives on creating another islamic state where a lot of muslims hate us.

  77. 77.

    Robert

    August 21, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    That is a photo of Johnny Rotten, aka John Lydon, from the Public Image Ltd. video for their song “Rise,” which as you may recall included the refrain “anger is an energy.” So the photo becomes unintendedly appropriate.

  78. 78.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    Quite true. I should have also included the numerous times when you were wrong, bluffing, wrong and bluffing, or simply talking out of your debagged behind. Happy now?

    And by the way, since we are in the Correcting Matoko’s Mistakes part of the day, unlike e.g. the Stoics with their theory of ekpyrosis, Aristotle did not think that the world was going to come to an end. For him, it was uncreated and eternal, with the impersonal Prime Unmoved Mover at the center of it all, thus the problems later Christians and Muslims had with integrating his cosmos into world-views that required a Divine creation. See Physics VIII, De Caelo I and Metaphysics passim.

  79. 79.

    mr. whipple

    August 21, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    My first visit to memeorandum via JC’s link.

    I think I need a shower, some booze and anti-depressants.

  80. 80.

    MikeBoyScout

    August 21, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    The only time I can recall secret previously unreleased tapes living up to their billing for revealing scandal is Nixon’s Watergate tapes.

  81. 81.

    Mike Furlan

    August 21, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    This is not another “Whitey Tape” situation.

    Michelle could not sue for defamation without causing her husband lots of short term problems.

    In this case there isn’t any downside for Imam Rauf.

    If that tape don’t exist, somebody is in a lot of legal trouble.

  82. 82.

    D-Chance.

    August 21, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    I stopped following that Memeo thread at, “great champion of freedom, Pamela Geller”…

  83. 83.

    OGLiberal

    August 21, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    I just listened to the beginning (I don’t think listening any further would reveal much) of the Steve Emerson interview with Bill Bennett, which is where the shrieking harpy got her information. What she posted is all he said about “the tapes” and it was almost an aside…Bennett didn’t even did deeper on it. Emerson spent more time complaining about how the opponents are being called “racists” and “bigots”. He also through around a lot of innuendo and claims not backed up by facts, which he admitted. He made bad sounding charges and accusations but they were usually followed with, “we’re still looking”, or, “we haven’t found out exactly who/what yet?”…it was a lot of, “if this turns out to be what I think it is, but I have no proof to back any of this up.” Of course, he’ll probably never have that proof other than what is out there already….but the wingnuts will think he uncovered some grand conspiracy. The things he said that are on these “tapes” (again, he didn’t treat these tapes as much of a big deal or secret) are, I’ll bet, his interpretation of statements that are much less controversial. (the already revealed, “Americans also have to admit that they haven’t been perfect in foreign affairs”-like statements could be shown to be proof of “defending Bin Laden’s violence”…you know how that works) He also believes that groups like CAIR are “radical organizations”, so you know where he’s coming from.

    If anybody wants to listen to the full 30-minute interview, it’s here:

    http://www.billbennett.com/michaelmedved/player.aspx?g=aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLnRvd25oYWxsLmNvbS90b3duaGFsbC9iZW5uZXR0L1N0ZXZlRW1lcnNvbjIubXAz

  84. 84.

    sfHeath

    August 21, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Do you remember the AP memo that had all the rightwingers up in arms yesterday? The one that said they weren’t going to use the phrase “Ground Zero mosque” anymore, as it was misleading?

    Breitbart’s website “Big Peace” quickly put up an article “fact-checking” the AP memo. Never before have I read an article with the term “fact-checking” in the title that didn’t have a single fact anywhere in the article. Of course, this essay was written by Frank Gaffney, so I may have been expecting too much.

    The central point of the article was an assertion that Imam Rauf had (somewhere, sometime) referred to the project as the “Ground Zero mosque”. Not a single link, not a single reference, no context, not even a quote that had been taken out of context. Here’s the entire basis of the article:

    Interestingly, among those who formerly used the now-proscribed descriptor “Ground Zero mosque” is none other than Feisal Abdul Rauf, its imam and chief promoter.

    Gaffney didn’t even tell a story about where this supposed usage happened. But with this article on the web, it’s now a settled fact that Imam Rauf himself calls it the “Ground Zero mosque”.

    This is followed by an attempted fisking of the AP memo with a dozen, a full twelve, paragraphs headed “THE FACTS:” in which there is not a single verifiable fact, just anti-Islam opinionating.

    It is so frustrating to argue against people who don’t know what a fact is.

  85. 85.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    @morzer: oh that is right! the conflict between the eternal universe and the nafahs al rahman was the problem. ty for the correction.
    you know, you don’t have to read meh.
    pie meh.
    it will save your bloodpressure.

  86. 86.

    ogliberal

    August 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    btw, I love how the wingnuts are all up in arms about their guesses (because that’s all they are) about who is funding this horrible mosque when it was recently revealed that, um, they really don’t have any funding. Of course, that’s more evidence the Abdul Rauf’s current trip is really a tax-payer funded get-money-from-the-terrorists-for-the-victory-mosque trip. You discount one thing and they find something else…and none of what they claim is backed up by facts. And they just keep going…you’ll never get them to say, “yeah, you’re right…I ain’t go shit”. And the more they scramble to find the new reason the more they believe their own ridiculous lies.

  87. 87.

    matoko_chan

    August 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    @ogliberal:

    the more they scramble to find the new reason the more they believe their own ridiculous lies.

    the scientific term for that is backfire effect. it is only observed in conservatives

  88. 88.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    @matoko_chan:

    Young lady, do your parents know you are on the computer? Asking older men to “pie” you is really rather dubious behavior.

  89. 89.

    Suffern ace

    August 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    @matoko_chan: And I agree with those sentiments. I thought that when miss USA expressed similar thoughts last night, we might have a breakthrough as we had two swimsuit clad women…one who wants to ease these current tensions and the other who wants them to go on forever…and hopefully people would listen to the one who wants to ease the tension. Not only is rauf refusing to make comments when interviewed, he did so fully clothed. A lot of the reason why the msm is emamored with geller is over the swimsuit appearances. Much like they can’t ever discuss some of the serious issues posed by the way arapio polices without distracting people with comical tales of pink underwear.

    Thank goodness the times finally decided to interview other American Muslims about this issue. if only they too had provided photos of themselves clad appropriately to be taken as experts. We would be a lot closer to understanding each other.

  90. 90.

    Americaneocon

    August 21, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Hey, you cool cats are all linked up here: ‘Right. Right. They’re Moderate Muslims. Got It…’.

  91. 91.

    TooManyJens

    August 21, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    @Americaneocon: I would say thank you for bringing that to our attention, but somehow “thank” doesn’t seem like quite the right word. I’m sure it will come to me.

  92. 92.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    @Americaneocon:

    Eocon? What is an American eocon? An easily outwitted con? An ancient con? A misspelled excon?

  93. 93.

    daryljfontaine

    August 21, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Totally worthwhile use of your time. Went last night.

    @morzer: It’s an American felon who is a fan of the Michael Jackson film “Captain EO.”

    D

  94. 94.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 21, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    @morzer: If I were actually speaking to you, I would tell you how much you made me laugh with this comment. Heh.

    The tape: Uh-huh. Sure, Pammy. I believe every word you say. Riiiiight.

  95. 95.

    Francis

    August 21, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    BTW John, is Larry “Whitey Tape” Johnson still around?

    I’m still waiting for that tape of Michelle railing on whitey in Trinity United church wearing a Nat X style dashiki while eating a bucket of KFC with Farakhan and the Unabomber cheering in the audience. That was 2 years ago Larry…tick tick tick.

    Yeah, I’m guessing if Geller has a tape of this imam, it has been “selectively edited”. I call bullshit.

  96. 96.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    *blinks* Still not speaking to me? But I haven’t even mentioned Brett Favre and his collection of antique bodyparts!

    Oops. I shouldn’t have said that…

  97. 97.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    @Francis:

    I think the original version was Pammy And Asad Do Dallas… but I guess they gave up on re-editing.

  98. 98.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    August 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Now the sound quality isn’t the best. And he’s speaking a rare dialect of Mooslimese.

    Fortunately, we just happen to have found the one expert in the entire world can properly translate the blood thirsty ravings of this killer.

    Naturally, we can’t name the expert or show you his face or even do the
    silhouette, altered voice thing for fear the crafty killer Mooslims will track him down.

  99. 99.

    KCinDC

    August 21, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    I can’t believe I waited for however many minutes it took for Americaneocon’s video to load from whatever gerbil-powered server it came from. I foolishly thought there was some possibility it could have something vaguely to do with Rauf, but no, it was just some sort of wingnut porn: shots of terrorist outrages, set to a dance beat. I closed it after a few seconds.

  100. 100.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    August 21, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    @Gen. Jrod and his Howling Army:

    NEXT WEEK: “The release of the explosive Rauf tapes has been delayed for another week, due to, um, opposition from the Socialist DhimhicRAT Party and, uh, Commie IslamoMUSLIMfascists. Yeah, that’s the ticket. THEY DON’T WANT GOOD AMERICANS LIKE YOU TO SEE THE TRUTH! In the meantime, go to our website and donate to our STOP THE EVIL MUSLIMS fund, buy our book; or, get it for FREE with a subscription to The National Review! Operators are standing by.”

    Fix’t.

  101. 101.

    morzer

    August 21, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    @kommrade reproductive vigor:

    I thought Moose Slimese was Palin’s native dialect?

  102. 102.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    August 21, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Hep me! Teh ebil soc1al1st filter et me post!

    Tanx!

  103. 103.

    kay

    August 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    @Americaneocon:

    The NYTimes has a good piece on the imam. They talked to a lot of people. If you’re actually worried about him, you’ll read it.

  104. 104.

    300baud

    August 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    @mcd410x:

    That Lincoln quote is fantastic, and perfect for today’s environment. It seems like the other side of “the wicked flee when no man pursueth.”

    The other day a friend of mine was riding his bike down a major street’s bike lane when a passenger opened their door right in front of him. The driver was apologetic, but the passenger flipped out and started yelling at him, in a state he described as “fake outrage”. The alternative being embarrassment and humility, and perhaps some painful introspection.

    That seems like a great metaphor for so much of this summer’s rage against various brown people.

  105. 105.

    meh

    August 22, 2010 at 10:15 am

    @OGLiberal:

    He also believes that groups like CAIR are “radical organizations”, so you know where he’s coming from.

    Except for the fact that CAIR is an organization with a rich history of ties to terrorist orginizations. It was founded the Muslim Brotherhood, was an unindicted co-conspirator in the HLF trial in Texas, and there is video of Nihad Awad (CAIR’s Director) at sermons in Virginia being given by Anwar Al-Awlaki (with Randall Royer in attendance – who later pleaded guilty to a charge of planning assaults on US Troops in Afghanistan through Lashkar-e Tayyiba.).

  106. 106.

    Curmudgeon

    August 23, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Oh, you good little dupes, keep thinking your good little thoughts, and aiding and abetting the enemy within….

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