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Baby You’re a Star

by John Cole|  September 21, 201010:28 am| 13 Comments

This post is in: Science & Technology, Shitty Cops

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Good piece by Radley Balko in Reason on how to legally, economically, and effectively utilize technology to record the police.

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  1. 1.

    Moses2317

    September 21, 2010 at 10:32 am

    The Senate is taking up debate today on repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and on passing the DREAM Act. Let’s call our Senators today and urge them to fight for equality and fairness.


    Winning Progressive

  2. 2.

    JPL(formerly demo woman)

    September 21, 2010 at 10:32 am

    It’s to early in the morning to link to Reason.

  3. 3.

    Poopyman

    September 21, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Good! ‘Cause we’re going to need it here in MD.

  4. 4.

    Dave Fud

    September 21, 2010 at 10:45 am

    I like what Balko did here. Hopefully he will do more work like this – which seemed likely as I read his bio and it looked like a solid libertarian vitae, not a glibertarian one. How refreshing for a libertarian to be concerned about civil liberties.

  5. 5.

    Egypt Steve

    September 21, 2010 at 10:46 am

    What Dave Fud said.

  6. 6.

    Linda Featheringill

    September 21, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Interesting article. I am not a very technical person but I thought there was some good information there.

    I liked it so much, and I placed a link for the articl on twitter.

    Maybe we should all invest in some of this before the Repugs take over everything?

  7. 7.

    New Yorker

    September 21, 2010 at 10:58 am

    How long before Balko strikes out on his own? He really doesn’t fit in with the rest of the crew at Reason, as he seems genuinely concerned with civil liberties and issues other than overtaxing “producers” like Dick Fuld.

  8. 8.

    Joey Maloney

    September 21, 2010 at 11:12 am

    His key suggestion is finding an organizational/technical solution that will get the video streamed and saved in the cloud as it’s shot, so that it’s not vulnerable to having the camera confiscated and, oops, accidentally damaged.

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    daveNYC

    September 21, 2010 at 11:54 am

    I know there’s nothing that can be done about cops that arrest and confiscate people’s tech using the usual BS charges of ‘public disturbance’ or ‘obstruction of something or other’. If cops want to arrest you, they will. It’s messed up, but it’s the way it is. What I don’t understand is how the hell laws that prevent the videotaping or whatnot of cops on duty are even remotely constitutional. It’s not even nuanced, it’s just a blanket ‘thou shalt not film the police’.

    Sputter.

  10. 10.

    Dr. Morpheus

    September 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    So assuming that you could successfully upload a video of police malfeasance to the cloud as it was happening without the risk of getting it deleted my question is this.

    Is it wise to let the offending officer(s) know that their actions are being recorded off-site in order to stop them from beating/tazing/shooting someone or yourself?

    Or is it better to let them finish and then use the video in later prosecution?

    I can see arguments for either.

  11. 11.

    Dr. Morpheus

    September 21, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    @daveNYC:

    What I don’t understand is how the hell laws that prevent the videotaping or whatnot of cops on duty are even remotely constitutional. It’s not even nuanced, it’s just a blanket ‘thou shalt not film the police’.

    Well here in Illinois it’s a supposed violation of the Illinois law against wiretapping.

    My question is, o.k., if that’s true what about all those stores, like Walmart, that have every nook and cranny being video taped as well as their parking lots?

    Do the owners/management get arrested or fined?

    Somehow I think they can get away with it but private citizens will get slammed.

  12. 12.

    Brachiator

    September 21, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Interesting article, even if it is typical fairy tale level stuff from the Reason people. I particularly liked this:

    And it’s a pretty powerful check on government, as shown by the Iran demonstrations…

    Shit, not only were the Iranian video feeds largely ineffectual, but I also recall a sizeable contingent of Juicers turning their backs on even wanting to be informed about what was happening in Iran, and deriding the fools who believed it important to publicize what was happening there. But also, at one point it became so dangerous to be caught with a cellphone in Iran that demonstration organizers suggested the following:

    It suggests demonstrators leave cellphones and jewelry at home and carry only an identification card and relatives’ phone numbers.

    It would also be interesting to see what would happen if an attorney attempted to use this kind of recorded feed at a trial. If past practice is any indicator, pro-cop juries tend to jump through all kinds of hoops to vindicate the police, and video evidence which “obviously” shows a civilian defendant doing dirty deeds is magically interpreted as “not telling the entire story” if the defendant is a cop.

    I’m also curious to know what police forces are doing to deal with the fact that more people are carrying cell phones with cameras. Ah, here we go. Apparently, turnabout is fair play:

    The Los Angeles Police Department calls them “scouts,” and
    they are so good at their job that, during this week’s protests, some were shot at and others were arrested–by their own colleagues. The LAPD undercover officers assigned to join the crowds of demonstrators drawn by
    the Democratic National Convention are a young, purposefully rag-tag group that has blended easily and invisibly into the sea of young protesters….
    __
    LAPD officials say the information gathered this week was invaluable. And the use of technology such as cell phones has vastly improved the undercover operation.

  13. 13.

    Nemo_N

    September 21, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Could you pimp this one too?

    “Why is the city of Montgomery condemning the property of African-Americans along a civil rights trail?”

    http://www.slate.com/id/2267743/

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