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Open Thread: Musical Interlude

by Anne Laurie|  October 7, 20103:10 am| 26 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Ripley

    October 7, 2010 at 3:30 am

    An old friend. Thanks.

  2. 2.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    October 7, 2010 at 3:32 am

    Is there any corner of the music industry as intellectually and artistically bankrupt as country? There are four artists who started there who have released albums in recent years that I casn listen to*: Lovett, Johnny Cash, k.d. lang, and Dwight Yoakam. Every single one of them got run out of the country music community, though Cash became so popular they had to let him back in.

    Fuck you, Nashville.

    *This is not meant as faint praise. All four are tremendous. I would love to know what some of the other artists trapped in the genre could do if they set themselves free.

  3. 3.

    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    October 7, 2010 at 3:39 am

    Sorry. I forgot Emmylou Harris.

  4. 4.

    jacy

    October 7, 2010 at 3:55 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    I agree with you there. I don’t find much in current country music, either musically or integrity-wise.

    I do have everything Lyle Lovett ever recorded. I’ve worn some of it out. Nancy Griffith too.

    There’s also Raul Malo, late of the Mavericks. I never get tired of listening to him. But he’s far away from country music now.

  5. 5.

    Amir_Khalid

    October 7, 2010 at 4:08 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN): Is it because they were seen as too old-school, or could their politics be a factor? I understand that Cash was a devout Christian but seen as a lefty, while k.d. lang is of course gay. I don’t know about Yoakam.

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    Ailuridae

    October 7, 2010 at 4:12 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Not to be a dick but Outlaw Country happened before either of us were born. It’s like shitting on hip hop because of how talentless mainstream hip hop is.

    Nashville was always likely a shitty place to make music (it is a bad place to do anything) and we have a handful of examples that make us think it was something else.

    I would say that country has had more growth than most other forms of contemporary music the last two decades. Maybe not. But if you are missing out on bands like Drive By Truckers that’s unfortunate.

    Righteous Path at Austin City Limits

    That there is country music. And it kicks absolute ass

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    stuckinred

    October 7, 2010 at 6:08 am

    @Ailuridae: Ah, Athens homeboys!

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    geg6

    October 7, 2010 at 6:39 am

    With about a handful of exceptions, country music sucks and pretty much always has. One of my sisters is obsessed with it and I can barely stand to visit her what with the ubiqitous CMT baring away in the background. But I love her, so I soldier through.

    In other news, after a week of gloomy, cold, rainy days, Western PA is set to finally get a peek of sunlight today. Perhaps I might not feel like murdering someone today as a result. Oh, and it’s a hockey night in Pittsburgh tonight in the gorgeous new Consol Center! GO PENS!

  9. 9.

    Todd

    October 7, 2010 at 7:37 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN): Fuck Country. I go for Penguins.

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    David Fud

    October 7, 2010 at 7:40 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN): These are exactly the only country musicians I have ever been able to listen to (including EmmyLou), so while I applaud your taste, I don’t know if the failure of Nashville (to me) is as recent as this year.

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    debbie

    October 7, 2010 at 8:04 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    I didn’t realize that music had to fit into narrow, rigid categories. This would seem to be a new definition of creativity: Create music: Only my way.

    I don’t keep up with music as much as I used to, but if your criticism of Johnny Cash includes his version of that Nine Inch Nails song, then I have to disagree with you. I can’t listen to a whole bunch of Trent Reznor, but Cash’s voice tore right through that song and through me. It was a whole lot more authentic than the original.

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    stuckinred

    October 7, 2010 at 8:20 am

    @debbie: It’s called Ya’llternative. Where Ya’ll been?

  13. 13.

    cintibud

    October 7, 2010 at 8:37 am

    @stuckinred: I’ve heard it called Americana. i.e. Country music that doesn’t suck.

    Check out a guy named Paul Thorn sometime.

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    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    October 7, 2010 at 8:42 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN): If people ask me if I like country music I say, sure, I like Lyle Lovett, Chris Isaak and Johnny Cash. k.d. lang is pretty good, too. Love Constant Craving.

    Dwight Yoakam is awesome in Sling Blade.

    Sling Blade jam session

    Doyle loses it

  15. 15.

    The Golux

    October 7, 2010 at 8:50 am

    @stuckinred: “Y’allternative” – perfect!

    I’m a huge fan of Lyle, and all the others mentioned. Good to see Leland’s beard in the first video. Other faves:

    Steve Earle
    Lucinda Williams
    Robert Earl Keen
    Buddy Miller (Emmylou’s right hand man)
    Big Al Anderson (check out his “After Hours” CD)
    John Prine

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    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    October 7, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Anne Laurie, could you kindly take my comment (#14) out of moderation?

    Many thanks.

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    debbie

    October 7, 2010 at 8:57 am

    I too like the category name of “y’alternative.” I think I first heard it applied to the Mavericks.

  18. 18.

    Brighton

    October 7, 2010 at 9:06 am

    An essay I wrote called “A Vegetarian’s Farewell to Mustard” about mustard, baseball and life.

  19. 19.

    Wag

    October 7, 2010 at 9:43 am

    “If I Had a Boat” is a perfect Da Da song, full of non sequitors (if I were like lightning, I wouldn’t need no sneekers) that just confuse and no doubt antagonize the average Red State listener. That and his hair make Lyle the Lady Ga Ga of country.

    I sing the lightning verse to my twins every night as a lullaby.

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    That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN)

    October 7, 2010 at 9:51 am

    @debbie: You have it backwards. I like Lovett, lang, Cash, Yoakam and Harris. It’s the rest of country, that can’t think outside of its narrow box, that I can’t stand. Cash’s version of “Hurt” is amazing, as is the whole album it comes from.

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    debbie

    October 7, 2010 at 10:27 am

    @That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal (JMN):

    Sorry. I deciphered “casn” incorrectly as “can’t” instead of “can with an s thrown in”.

  22. 22.

    ornery curmudgeon

    October 7, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Lyle is playing the Closing Ceremonies of the World Equestrian Games on Oct 10th …

    NBC is broadcasting highlights on Sunday, for maybe the first time in history. I like horse sports, and noticed how much negativity is given to equestrian sports from locals in Kentucky.

    Maybe they think horse lovers took their money or something. Weird to me. Not everyone who rides is rich, lol.

  23. 23.

    Stillwater

    October 7, 2010 at 10:44 am

    Have to agree with Ailuridae – about DBT (shout!) as well as Outlaw Country. The reason most people don’t like country music as a genre, it seems to me, is because they think the over-produced Nashville sound heard on top-40 country radio stations is all there is. Not so. For those interested, go to a channel called Outlaw Country on Sirius radio, and hear real good, real raw country – David Allen Coe, Leon Russell, Waylon, Jerry Jeff Walker … Lucinda Williams, Lucero, DBT, Robert Earl Kean … A shit-ton of good music.

  24. 24.

    Don

    October 7, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    This New Yorker article about Lyle Lovett is still worth a read.

    As much as I love his music in and of itself, his live performance are nothing less than stunning for how they showcase a dozen master musicians. Everyone gets a chance to shine and Lovett’s between the songs chatter is always fresh and fun.

    Over the years I’ve heard him tell delightful anecdotes about the Penguins song (meant to poke fun at a girlfriend’s roommate who collected tons of stuffed penguins), mention that one song was meant to jerk the chains of people who like to clap along (“When do you stop? It’s an obligation and you find yourself watching the guy next to you hoping he’ll quit so you can too.”) and so many others.

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    Jennifer

    October 9, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    I’d have to say there is a difference between “country” and what Lovett, Lang, Cash, Nelson, Keene, Van Zandt, Isaak, etc create and perform. There is no formula to their music, thus no genre. They can’t be classified and that’s what I like about them so I don’t think Nashville kicked them out. I think they were too big and creative for Nashville and that suits me and them just fine.

    I agree that Lyle live is about the best you can get. His music and musicians are top-notch and no one is as funny live.

    What I find most amusing is how many times Lyle comes up on politics blogs. There’s this this cult following of his amongst thinking citizens even though he’s not overtly political. Fascinating.

    Thanks for posting these.

  26. 26.

    Jennifer

    October 9, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I meant to add that being a Texas Democrat, I often use Lyle as a defense when people insult the state. You can’t be an all bad state if you produced Lyle. ;)

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