This piece at the Politico titled “Newt Gingrich: on the edge or over the line?” is precisely the kind of press he wants, and the Politico is eager to serve it up. See- it’s an honest debate over whether or not Gingrich’s bile is over the line.
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mikefromArlington
Those bozo’s write hit pieces about you if you don’t give them access or write blathering love sonnets if you are willing to give them access.
It’s all about access for Politico. They are the whores of journalism.
MattF
All about ‘Does Newt’s demagoguery give him an edge on the competition?’… Ugh.
I actually think there’s a story here, on the lines of ‘Why do Republican politicians all turn out to be hollow and evil?’ Even Cheney was once a human being, so I’ve heard.
That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal
@mikefromArlington: Yeah, but access to what? This is Newt Gingrich we’re talking about. He’s a nobody.
EdTheRed
It’s a league game, Smokey.
Zifnab
No. It’s an opportunity to print Newt’s name as many times as possible in a news column. Newt is a slimy little attention whore and a key Republican fund raiser. The more times his name appears in the news, the more money he can collect from business leaders looking to bend his ear. Content is irrelevant, so long as Gingrich comes across as powerful and connected.
Culture of Truth
Never mind Gingrich — I heard Donald Trump is running for President!!
earlofscruggs
There are real historians out there, you know, and real intellectuals, and real experts in all kinds of fields whom you could invite on a talk show. Instead, we have to listen to this ignorant, insane ball of bellyfat tell us that liberals want to impose Shariah law.
Daddy-O
You give the People what they want when they want it
And they wants it all the time…
–Parliament/Funkadelic
cleek
@earlofscruggs:
Politico might listen to him. i sure as shit don’t.
El Cid
You’re not an over the line right wing extremist unless you’re wearing a Nazi SS uniform, and I mean right now, not just on some weekends. You might also have to openly declare that you want to slaughter the Jews who control the media and the banks. I’m not sure, though, because if at the same time you offer to cut taxes on the rich and deregulate, you could probably still get interviewed and quoted as an elder philosopher statesman.
arguingwithsignposts
@MattF:
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Punchy
It will be fun watching only Republicans out-bigot, out-crazy, and hurl daily insults at one another for the next 2 years. For a party so schooled on acting as one and toeing the party line, they’re not used to having to argue and defend themselves. This should be great theater, especially once Palin jumps in.
Lynnehs
I second Punchy’s comment. If the GOP doesn’t get its act together, it’ll go the way of the Whigs.
Jay in Oregon
I choose “unfit for polite society”…
That’s the same trick you use when you want to send a petulant child to bed. You don’t ask him if he wants to go beddy-bye, you give him a choice of whether he wants to put on his his Star Wars pajamas or his Spongebob pajamas.
El Cid
Aw, fuck.
El Cid
Hugo Chavez, both nationalist leftist and douchebag for whatever nation gives them favorable trade deals.
jrg
@Lynnehs:
Yeah, right. This nation has an endless supply of bigotry and stupidity.
Keith G
@Lynnehs:
But not before it, with help from our media and disenchanted lefties, pull my country over the edge.
GregB
I heard that The Politico has an insurance policy that covers treatment and care for shoulders that have been dislocated while giving reach-arounds.
KCinDC
Sorry to complain, but is anyone else having problems with this annoying Bing ad at the bottom of the page? After the page loads, it jumps down to the ad every time, so you have to scroll back up to read the post and comments. This is happening on both the front page and individual posts.
Zifnab
@El Cid:
That only gets you in trouble if you’re on a low-rated CNN daytime infotainment show and are about to be replaced by a former state-wide office holder with a penchant for hooking up with hookers.
So, if David Vitter ever gets into the cable news business, everybody better start getting really quiet.
Steve
@El Cid: There’s a lesson here that we should have learned during the Cold War. Folks like Ho Chi Minh had no particular devotion to Communism, they were simply willing to break bread with whoever was willing to support their nationalist agenda. Sometimes the bad guys are true believers but they often turn out to be more pragmatic than we assume. Countries targeted by US trade sanctions tend to trade among themselves not because they share any real-world agenda, but simply because they have to trade with someone.
Omnes Omnibus
@KCinDC: yes. it is happening to a lot of people. I don’t like Bing as a search engine, but,even if I did, that ad would cause me to never use it again.
arguingwithsignposts
@KCinDC:
I was having the same problem (Chrome), which finally forced me to install Ad Block extension. Until the Bing ad is gone, Ad Block stays up. I hope Cole is listening. That is the most annoying ad yet – and that’s saying something considering the “You won an iPod” ads of yore.
Zifnab
@El Cid:
If anyone ever imagines what life would be like with El Rushboy as President…
Dork
@GregB: Not to mention Damaged Colon and Tonsils Insurance, too.
El Cid
@Steve: Don’t get me wrong — his economic programs though often conflicting drastically between different parts have certainly been thoroughly coherent in their thrust, and even the UNDP recognizes that only Venezuela has come close to meeting its Millennium Development Goals for its population, particularly the poor.
He just applauds whatever nation gives them good deals. Iran partners up for auto and tractor industries, and therefore Ahmedinajad is just being attacked by the West whenever he makes another jerkass statement. China becomes a major supplier and purchaser, and now their dissidents are just like the crazy ultra-right wingers of Venezuela.
MikeTheZ
OT: Employer demands mean some jobs go unfilled
Shorter: Employers want to pay 1 person to do job of 3, whine that they can’t find people to do that
lamh31
The only pages I usually read on Politico is Ben Smith’s blog, cause I find that for the most part if I want just “straight” info, his blog post are okay for that (unless that tv whore Jonathan Martin is subbing or Smith), and their Politico44 site dedicated to POTUS 44 admin news.
But if ya’ll want a better article to read, this one is not a bad one, meaning it’s not too heavy on Politico’s village spin, but it’s actually a valid story.
Barack Obama gets more personal with black voters
I only have 2 addendum to it,
1. they have a quote from John McWhorter(sp?) saying that that Dems and Obama need to get Blacks not only to the polls to vote, but to get them to vote for candidates “even though they are not Black”. Okay, first of all, getting them to the booth is the most important part. Secondly, once in the booth, the majority of the people will vote the straight Dem ticket anyway!. Thirdly, Blacks have been voting for non-Black candidate the majority of the time anyway. The problem you have is when voters feel aggrieved in some way by the non-Black candidate, that’s when you have a situation such as what may happen in the case of Kendrick Meek in Florida.
2. Uhm of course it’s more personal for Obama, I think we all know why, and let’s be clear, enthusiam for Obama in the Black community is STILL near 100%. We are and will continue to be his most loyal supporters. Honestly, the only thing that I can see eroding that support, is if he cheats on Michelle O (he’d probably still get pretty decent numbers, unless he cheats with a non-Black woman, then he’s toast, sorry, but it is what it is).
Anyway, I digress, the article is pretty good otherwise.
Mnemosyne
@MikeTheZ:
Kind of like when they whined that they were forced — forced, I tell you! — to use H1B visa workers because those greedy American software engineers just wouldn’t write code for $30,000 a year.
That's Master of Accountancy to You, Pal
@El Cid: From the article:
FTFY
El Cid
@That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal: Ha ha. I should have seen that.
Mumphrey
What a joke of a piece. They didn’t call him out on his endless lying and only grazed his soulless hypocrisy. And they had to tout his Vision and Historical Perspective, since they don’t want to be called liberal…
But then, I guess that’s all we could expect, though. I mean, hey, Newt Gingrich’s ass isn’t going to kiss itself.
MikeTheZ
@Mnemosyne: Ugh. I saw a listing the other day for a company trying to hire an Electrical Engineer for $13/hour.
Roger Moore
@That’s Master of Accountancy to You, Pal:
Yes, but are they worse than Man U?
Mnemosyne
@lamh31:
You know, I keep seeing that weird meme that somehow Black people vote only for other Black people rather than voting for the candidate that will do the best job for them, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen any evidence of that. If that was the case, Joseph Cao never would have won in Louisiana since he was up against a Black longtime officeholder. But Jefferson was totally corrupt, so Cao won even in that heavily Black district.
Of course, now he’s probably going to lose his seat because he’s been voting with the Republicans against the president, but it won’t have anything to do with the fact that he’s Asian and most of his constituents are Black and everything to do with the fact that he consistently votes against a president who’s very popular with his constituents. Yet I’m sure that it’s going to be reported as, “See? Black people won’t vote for an Asian guy!”
KCinDC
@Omnes Omnibus, I know that ad people have bizarre ideas about human nature, but it amazes me they so stupid they think scrolling the page down to their ad will do anything but enrage the target audience. I don’t use Bing either, and this idiocy only reinforces that decision, even in a time when Google is becoming increasingly worrisome.
Bender
Gingrich has it figured out. The rule is always the same: If you are an outrageous or idiotic Republican, Big Lefty Media give you face time in hopes that you will frighten voters. If you are an outrageous or idiotic Democrat, Big Lefty Media hide you under protective palm branches.
morzer
Give Politico enough time and they’ll be debating whether Gingrich’s SS uniform has historically correct insignia – and they’ll do so with complete obliviousness to the fundamental question that needs to be asked.
Martin
@Mnemosyne:
White people find nicer way to say ‘Niggers are lazy and stupid’. And then, in the same breath, accuse them of having sufficient guile and commitment to a job to rig a national election.
Shocking, isn’t it?
Up next:
“$250K is barely getting by in most communities, but those luckie duckie government workers earning $50K are proof that government spending is out of control!”
Suck It Up!
@lamh31:
I know a lot of people say it shouldn’t matter, but I would lose my shit if this happened. I’m a bigger M-bot than I am an O-bot.
Amanda in the South Bay
@KCinDC:
I too often wonder what universe marketing types live in. Its like when I watch stuff on Hulu, whenever there’s a commercial I mute and open up a browser window to dick around in-just watching a commercial these days makes me want to go berzerk and never buy that product.
Davis X. Machina
@MikeTheZ: They’ll get him or her, too. Tuition loans don’t sleep, and can’t be discharged through bankrupcy.
Pangloss
Doesn’t everyone think that Calista Gingrich is just dreamy? Wouldn’t she make a fabulous First Lady?*
* At least until a younger, blonder model comes along?
El Cid
People continue to correctly emphasize the continuity between the TeaTards and Beckists and the ultra-right anti-Commie superparanoid John Birch types (and properly it should extend back to the Liberty League ideologies and anti-New Deal hysteria).
Sean Wilentz in the New Yorker and part of his review being on the uber-loony W. Cleon Skouson, who wrote the Bible of the Becker and Teabaggers movement, The 5,000 Year Leap:
Well worth a read, you Commie Fed Reserve librul anti-Natural-Lawists.
Wilentz is right about the 5,000 Year Leap, as having read it it is a combination of decent (though available in a billion other sources) historical reviews of how the Constitution came to be mixed in with Natural Law crap.
MikeTheZ
@Davis X. Machina: Don’t remind me. Its why I’m thinking about grad school right now.
Davis X. Machina
Ya know, there is a natural law, but Natural Law jurists would rather eat broken light bulbs than, ya know, follow it.
Suck It Up!
OMG! Someone Save Him!:
“Obama Is In the Jaws Of Political Death: Can He Survive?”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599202471800
Stay Tuned
Bender
I like the cut of this guy’s jib! Political Ad Paraphrase:
Man carrying rifle: I’ll protect our 2nd Amendment rights, take on the Obama Administration, get the federal government off our backs and out of our pockets. I’ll cut federal spending, repeal bad parts of “ObamaCare,” I’ve sued the EPA, and “I’ll take dead aim” (fires single rifle shot through a mounted copy of C’n’T bill) at the Cap and Trade bill.
Hmmmm, no mention of political party or what branch of the Tea Party sponsors this “Manchin” fella. He must have a huge lead!
Davis X. Machina
@MikeTheZ: All us 55-year olds who borrowed to send our children to school, and are facing terminal unemployment, are right there in the boat with you… I wonder how long my 1979 GRE scores are good for.
morzer
@Davis X. Machina:
Not long, I fear. ETS erases test records older than 5 years.
Mnemosyne
@Martin:
I think it’s even simpler than that — it’s good old-fashioned projection. As in, “I would never vote for a n* or a wetback, so I know they would never vote for a white politician.”
lamh31
@Mnemosyne:
Right you are. As some of ya’ll know, I’m a transplanted NO-ian will most of my fam still there, and Cao was toast almost from the moment he started voting against Obama policy. His first vote (I belive it was against the stimulus, even though, he told some of the press in NOLA that he was actually thinking about it) was the deadliest. People remember that vote well. So really all the Dems had to do was pick someone with enough name recognition, and hometown pinache, and they had know real chance of losing that seat again, add to that Cedric Richmond just happens to be Black, and it becomes a 99.99999% lock.
eemom
@Suck It Up!:
Fuck Halperin. Also fuck fellow Chicken Little asshole Steve Kornacki at Salon, for his “last resort of the doomed” screed today. Fuck them repeatedly with something rusted, twisted and pointy.
Mnemosyne
@lamh31:
I kept hearing rumblings that the Democrats were going to try and get Cao to switch parties, but nothing ever came of it and Cao became just another “Party of No” functionary for the Republicans. I don’t know if he was unable to make a deal with the local machine or what, but it really seems like a missed opportunity for the Democrats.
Suck It Up!
@eemom:
So, Fuck ’em?
Tom
Imagine the piece was titled: Newt Gingrich: Over The Line.
This immediately becomes an opinion piece, not a report. Many news stories don’t make strong stances because they are there to report on a subject and let readers draw their own conclusion.
lamh31
@Mnemosyne:
I’m not sure about that. It may be so, but this might have been before Cedric Richmond announced his candidacy. It was gonna be hard enough for Cao to hold on to this being and R anyway, even after Katrina, the largest population are still African Americans, and in New Orleans, you be hard pressed to find any who are not Dems. I may be wrong, but I think that Cedric once before ran against “Dollar” Bill, and lost in the Dem primary. so once Cedric (who’s a hometown boy, with fabulous connections) announced, then it was/is his to lose.
the other thing not in Cao’s favor, is that I can not recall him really campaigning in the AA districts much. He essentially won, cause he was not Bill J, so white Dems in LA voted for him in larger numbers, and AA Dems voted in larger numbers for Cao. With Cedric running, Cao won’t have the luxury of running against a convicted criminal!
debbie
@lamh31:
Isn’t that why conservatives were so atwitter about the missing wedding ring?
ruemara
@Pangloss:
yeek! I thought disney retired that face when they stopped doing 10001 dalmations sequels.
Tony J
@El Cid:
Sad to say, but when I heared the initial news coverage the fact that they were pushing the “Hostage definately not killed by her rescuers” line so strongly made me expect that the other shoe was about to drop. The PR boys only go all out that early when they know people are going to be hearing a different story very soon.
Hence the effortless switch to attitudes of “She shouldn’t have been in a warzone anyway!” and “Asking questions is objectively pro-terrorist!” I’ve been hearing on the British version of Talk Radio this morning. Give it a couple of days and I expect to hear that “everyone already knows” that standard hostage-rescue techniques in a free-fire zone mean tossing grenades into every room you pass “just in case”, so it was her own fault for not knowing this and planning accordingly. Followed by the Breaking News that actually that’s – not – standard practice, but since She Sez one thing and He Sez another, “everyone” has decided to “leave it up to the experts” to sort out who, if anyone, takes the blame.
The ‘experts’ being “the people with the most first-hand experience of situations like this”, who will, of course, wear the same uniform as the people who lied about it in the first place. You don’t really have to be a tinfoil-hatter to know what their conclusions are going to be. So we shrug, and it becomes old news.
Rant over.
@Roger Moore:
If you have to ask the question..
KCinDC
@El Cid, I’d say if you’re killed by grenades thrown by some group, even if it’s accidental, those people shouldn’t be identified as your “rescuers”. Maybe “would-be rescuers”, but if someone isn’t rescued I don’t think they have rescuers. Heard the same language on NPR this morning.
CalD
If you’re reading the Politico, it’s no one’s fault but your own. No good can come of it.