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by John Cole|  October 13, 20108:26 pm| 80 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Carrie

    October 13, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    i’m just keeping Stuck’s seat warm.

  2. 2.

    TooManyJens

    October 13, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    I’m all out of love.

  3. 3.

    stuckinred

    October 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    The future’s uncertain
    and the end is always near

  4. 4.

    BGinCHI

    October 13, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    This is Jane Hamsher, she is about to take her own life. This could have been avoided if she had a Sassy Gay Friend.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnvgq8STMGM

    (Note: plz substitute “Jane” for “Ophelia” but you can just leave “bitch” as “bitch”)

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 13, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Pat Sajak wants to take the vote away from cops, firemen, school teachers, social workers, a lot of doctors and nurses and, I think, active duty military.

  6. 6.

    kdaug

    October 13, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    OK, I’ll throw down: How about three new top marginal rates, one at $500K, one at $1M, one at $5M. Make em, say, 50%, 75%, and 90%. Methinks that could solve that whole debt problem right quick. (For the record, I’m not an economist, I just play one on TV).

    So say we all?

  7. 7.

    Cat Lady

    October 13, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Next to last miner is out, one to go. Obama said “they’ve inspired the world”. The nerve!

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Pat Sajak couldn’t do Vanna White’s job.

  9. 9.

    Comrade Mary

    October 13, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Pet pics are always on topic.

  10. 10.

    mr. whipple

    October 13, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    I

    ’m all out of topics.

    Pets are always good.

  11. 11.

    General Stuck

    October 13, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    I’d say you’ve had a pretty bloggy day for yourself bossman, managed to get called about everything but a milkcow, and now that is covered as well. Tomorrow will likely be no better, so get the beauty rest. We minions will have your back unless somebody sues us, or Jane declares all out war. She skeers me a little.

  12. 12.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 13, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    We are an emotional lot, aren’t we?

  13. 13.

    JPL

    October 13, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    @Cat Lady: What an amazing rescue. BBC has had excellent coverage all day.

    EDIT..must thank the person last night who told us about the coverage on BBC.

  14. 14.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 13, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Highly paid civil service drones, the lot of them.

    A reading from the Gospel according to St. Ronald: “Everything private is better than anything public, and so long as one of us, somewhere, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement, none of us, anywhere, is truly free.”

    Here endeth the lesson.

  15. 15.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 13, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Oh god, I love Sam Seder but he and Olbermann are having an FDLish circlejerk about the NYT Mag interview.

  16. 16.

    General Stuck

    October 13, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Speaking of war, I’m about to give the pooch his bath.

  17. 17.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 13, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    If you’re in for giggles, apparently Christine O’Donnell is debating Chris Coons tonight in Del. Wonkette is live blogging.

  18. 18.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 13, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Maybe looking at friends would help.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4890225887/

  19. 19.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Coons looks pretty solid so far, while O’Donnell seems to be babbling out anything she can think of, whether it’s relevant to the topic or not.

  20. 20.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: It’s hard not to be. It seems like we live in truly insane times. Then again, I guess all times are insane.

  21. 21.

    FlipYrWhig

    October 13, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Obama said “they’ve inspired the world”. The nerve!

    It’s like he thinks he’s a citizen of the world!

  22. 22.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    And O’Donnell can’t think of a recent Supreme Court decision she dislikes… Wolf has to offer her Roe versus Wade. And now she’s gibbering about porn, Miranda rights…

  23. 23.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 13, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    @morzer:
    Not able to watch atm, but will definitely be looking for the replay, just for the trainwreckedness of it all.

  24. 24.

    Menzies

    October 13, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Out of curiosity (dumb topic warning) –

    Why does everyone seem to hate the very existence of Parker/Spitzer?

    I realize I’m defending a show I don’t even watch here (I’m generally doing work when it’s on) but I was really surprised to see how much bile got hurled at the show even before it premiered. I’m not particularly sold on the concept myself, but I thought people would at least give it a small chance.

    Is it part of the Spitzer hate-on? Is it just a general dislike for Crossfire-style shows?

  25. 25.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    It’s on CNN online, if that helps.

  26. 26.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 13, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Just one word, Tunch. Always wanted, always on topic.

  27. 27.

    Menzies

    October 13, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Well, he’s certainly not a ‘Murican citizen, so somewhere else had to take him!

  28. 28.

    FlipYrWhig

    October 13, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    @morzer: I like Coons. Strikes me as a boring, hardworking kind of guy like Cardin or Whitehouse.

  29. 29.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 13, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    O’Donnell will be toast, is toast, was toast, never wasn’t toast. Every pixel and dollar spent defeating her, every second of coverage she receives, is better employed against Toomey, Johnson, Paul, MacMahon, Coats, Ayotte, Portman, Maese….

    She’s not a threat — she’s a distraction. She’s a Judas goat for the media. Who are but a short ride away in DC and NY, the easier to cover the train wreck-cum-freak show. It’s almost eerie, the coincidence.

    More bright shiny things offered to us secure in the knowledge that we’ll chase them….

  30. 30.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    My dog and my friend’s pup.

  31. 31.

    Jager

    October 13, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I watched for a while, she is from the Palin/Bachmann school…she cannot shut up and she does the eye rolls too. Tell me again why cable is covering a debate from a tiny state between a rational person and a 19 point underdog?

  32. 32.

    gene108

    October 13, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Impeaching Obama is blase. They did it with Clinton. If you really want to impress the wing-nut base, you have to find a way to remove Obama from office, remove the Biden from office, so the next President will be the Republican Speaker of the House.

    Like any attempt at the crazy, you have to keep upping the ante or else your audience will get bored with the same-old, same-old.

    I’m not saying Congressional Republicans wouldn’t try. I’m just saying they won’t impress their base, unless they are able to take impeachment a step further and remove a sitting President.

    I can see the freeper posts about how useless impeachment is because the stinkin’ Democrat President gets to still be in office, and calls for Constitutional amendments to make it easier to remove Democrats from office.

    I mean unless they do make it easier to impeach and remove Presidents from office, I don’t think the GOP base will get excited if they keep trying this after Obama.

  33. 33.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    He’s pretty good at using the rhetorical elbow every so often, and he’s managed to make O’Donnell look like an idiot. Not, admittedly, a tough ask, but credit where it is due…

  34. 34.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: Those are some nice looking cats. I love ginger cats. They are too cool for school.

  35. 35.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    My God, O’Donnell is seriously annoying. She’s an obnoxious combination of whiny little girl and poorly trained parrot.

  36. 36.

    Annie

    October 13, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    @morzer:

    Why can’t they ask her about her employment record. She won’t be able to say what jobs she likes or dislikes because she has no employment record. Except living off of campaign contributions and avoiding paying her mortgage and rent. That’s a great job if you can get it. And, yes, she definitely went to the Palin School of Campaign Fashion. (PSCF U). She aced “Pearls and Suits 101.”

  37. 37.

    WereBear

    October 13, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Sounds like someone needs a kitten picture!

    Tristan, 5 weeks, loves his humans.

  38. 38.

    The Disgruntled Chemist

    October 13, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    @ Menzies,

    Out of curiosity (dumb topic warning) –
    Why does everyone seem to hate the very existence of Parker/Spitzer?

    Did you catch them covering the last few Chilean miners to come out of the mine tonight? They were unbearable. One of them (does it even matter which?) said that they don’t really feel that sorry for the miners because they have a big book deal coming.

    Oof.

  39. 39.

    FlipYrWhig

    October 13, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Your list of the active races reminded me… One thing I haven’t quite understood this whole cycle is why no one tried very hard to sock it to Chuck Grassley, the guy who did more than anyone else to ruin the health care bill, who’s running in the state that made Obama Obama against a cool woman named Roxanne Conlin. Instead the biggest blogosphere activist effort was against Blanche Lincoln, who is, no lie, incredibly sucktastic… but why not change the game a little bit by playing the bold progressive card in Iowa, a state that has actually elected progressives? Mystifying to me.

  40. 40.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    October 13, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    All 33 Chileans miners are now on the surface and in reasonably good condition.

  41. 41.

    Art

    October 13, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    I received a robo-call from John Raese today. Seems the West Virginia candidate with the out of state house in his name, the out of state wife, and kids that attend out of state schools, can’t find an instate business to do his campaign calls.

    The phone number for the Raese robocall on my caller ID: 213-271-9624.

  42. 42.

    fordpowers

    October 13, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    out of topics?
    clearly you weren’t watching this:
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295974-1

    there are some gems in there.

  43. 43.

    Nicole

    October 13, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Um… no pet pictures to offer, but here’s one of my three-month old doing a classic scene from “The Godfather.”

    http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad214/otterbird/photo-3.jpg

  44. 44.

    BDeevDad

    October 13, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Did you hear, we’re still fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    October 13, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    @Comrade Mary:

    Pet Tunch pics are always on topic.

    FTFY.

  46. 46.

    Sly

    October 13, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    I have an idea.

    The government should create several databases of information regarding the rules and regulations of various institutions so that political activists who are interested in recommending a certain course of action to their elected officials so as to enact specific policy agendas, they can be sure that such actions are legal.

    This would be especially critical for the U.S. Senate, since it seems to be the institution that is the focus of most people’s attention.

    They should put this database on the internet, and give it a URL that is easy to remember.

    Something like rules.senate.gov.

  47. 47.

    phillip anderson

    October 13, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Well there’s always these new Paladino porn emails that the WNYMedia.net folks dug up today.

    And, yes, they’re genuine, they’re real.

    Funny how Carl thinks two women having sex is “awesome” (actual quote) but that two women actually in love is “sick.”

    Personally, I don’t ever want to be lectured by this asshole ever again about morality, or perversion, or parenting or what a good Catholic he is.

  48. 48.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    @Nicole:
    Brilliant! Such talent.

  49. 49.

    freelancer (itouch)

    October 13, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    @phillip anderson:

    I can’t believe we’re losing to these people.

  50. 50.

    James K. Polk, Esq.

    October 13, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Been signing up people to vote at my community college… Last day to register in California is the 18th, I got five! How many people have you registered?

    Just got my own ballot in the mail today, huzzah!

  51. 51.

    Kristine

    October 13, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    @WereBear: Tristan is too cute to be legal.

    Gaby’s decided it’s her turn to prevent me saving for my old age. Last week, it was sick call/xrays/roto-rooter to remove a half-inch bone chip from her GI tract. Today? Ear infection.

    I predict a lull of a month or two, at which point King will take over. His specialties are gastritis and inflamed moles that require surgical removal.

  52. 52.

    Ash Can

    October 13, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    @BDeevDad: Because we didn’t finish the job in the ’80s and ’90s, according to her.

    Shame on the people who put this poor thing up to running for the Senate.

  53. 53.

    MikeJ

    October 13, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    @Art: Really, really sloppy. You can program the switch your calls go out through to send any ani you want, regardless of area codes.

  54. 54.

    El Cid

    October 13, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    The BBC has had wonderful coverage of the miners’ rescue. (For Spanish speakers, BBC Mundo just mainly gives the feed.)

    President Pinera gave a speech which was actually quite good. Remember, it was only last year that Santiago and surrounding areas were hit by a massive quake and then the nearby coasts were hit by a tsunami.

  55. 55.

    Sly

    October 13, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    @Ash Can:

    Shame on the people who put this poor thing up to running for the Senate.

    Chris Coons calls that person “God”.

  56. 56.

    Ash Can

    October 13, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    @Sly: LOL!

  57. 57.

    Menzies

    October 13, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    @The Disgruntled Chemist:

    Oh, my. I did in fact miss that – like I said I’m generally not watching them.

    . . . in their defense, the same joke has been made like seven times on Twitter today, so I’m not sure if it’s just the joke that’s distasteful or the manner in which it’s delivered. (I’m going to go ahead and guess Spitzer on it, but like you said, it doesn’t matter.) My problem isn’t that the show sucks, it’s more that no one seemed to bother to think about whether it might not.

  58. 58.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    October 13, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    @The Disgruntled Chemist: It was probably Parker. I doubt Spitzer would have said that. Spitzer is a pretty progressive guy, though he has authoritarian tendencies, obviously. And yes, the hooker problem is a strike against him too.

  59. 59.

    MikeJ

    October 13, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    @Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle: obviously?

    And what’s the problem with sex workers?

  60. 60.

    Mnemosyne

    October 13, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @MikeJ:

    I think having prosecutors blackmail sex workers into having sex with them rather than going to jail is a problem, don’t you?

  61. 61.

    Art

    October 13, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @MikeJ: Thanks for that tidbit. What does “ani” mean?

    Might try to call a statewide talk radio (Talkline) show that airs M-F 10am-12pm and bring this point up. The network which airs the show, MetroNews Radio Network, is owned by Raese and serves 56 radio stations.

    Check out the pro-Raese news items and opinion articles:

    http://www.wvmetronews.com/

    In other news, I am a little know poster that has been extremely negative. This morning I received my first epidural pain block in my spinal to manage the pain caused by a protruding L4 disc that impinges my L5 nerve root. After 3 months of debilitating pain, I have some relief! No excuse for being a Richard Cranium, but I hope folks can understand. Also, too, I hope I can do some Physical Therapy soon and avoid surgery.

    My life has been hell. I could barely stand/walk for 20 minutes in a row. I collapsed in tears in the produce section of Kroger’s because of weakness and pain in my legs. Worst of all, I am a newly certified teacher that can barely finish the day as a substitute…I have had to turn down a few jobs.

    Personally, things are looking better!

  62. 62.

    Nicole

    October 13, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    @Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle: Useless but amusing trivia- New York horse racing hates Spitzer for a pretty inept case brought against two Clerk of Scales while he was AG. (I like Spitzer, but this case was very politically motivated and resulted in two racing employees getting thrown under the bus before the case was dismissed) When the prostitution scandal came out, a few horses were named in his honor, including “Client Number Nine” and “Luv Gov.”

  63. 63.

    WereBear (itouch)

    October 13, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    @Kristine: Thanks. I’m sure Republicans would ban so much cuteness.

    They can’t handle the cuteness.

  64. 64.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    @WereBear: OMFG adorable!

  65. 65.

    PurpleGirl

    October 13, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    @Art: If you are still reading this thread… Talk to a neurosurgeon about a hemilaminectomy. I mean it. I have/had herniated disks at L4/L5 and L5/S1. The L5/S1 was way huge. We tried conservative treatments but the bulge kept getting bigger and the pain kept getting worse. We then did the surgery. While there were some residual problems, there has not been pain in 16 years and that site. I had reached the point where I could be semi-active only for about 7 hours and that kept shrinking too. It the problem is acute — i.e., came on suddenly and a short time ago — you are a candidate for surgery. Please believe me.

  66. 66.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    @freelancer (itouch): The thing I’ve noticed about these “family values” dudes is that their followers do not care one iota about their actions. Sinning is okay because they can be forgiven. The important thing is believing the right thing. And thus, these hypocrisies are nothing to them. It’s just us sitting there amazed at their gall.

  67. 67.

    Barb (formerly gex)

    October 13, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Holy cow, really? That’s disgusting.

  68. 68.

    morzer

    October 13, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    @Annie:

    I want to hear someone ask how she survived on a declared income of $5800. Let’s see a real breakdown of how she got by on that. I suspect she runs races to pay the bills, not out of principle at all.

  69. 69.

    MikeJ

    October 13, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I heard about him paying huge amounts of money. I didn’t hear about him blackmailing people. That’s obviously bad, but has nothing to do with sex workers.

  70. 70.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 13, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    On the topic of Christine O’Donnell, I’m shamelessly blogwhoring for my latest populist design, striking a blow against Christine O’Donnell’s Delaware Senate campaign. Everyone should join.

  71. 71.

    suzanne

    October 13, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    @James K. Polk, Esq.:

    How many people have you registered?

    I registered seven. In Spanish, no less. (Considering how poorly I speak my native language, I was pretty damn pleased with myself for being able to converse in a different one.)

    I had the most hilarious phone call with some schmuck from the DNC today. I had volunteered to do voter protection, and he was calling to verify my information and to see if I was still available. He verified my name, address, phone number, occupation, and then asks me, “Do you speak English?” My only response to that question was obnoxious, braying laughter.

  72. 72.

    CynDee

    October 13, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Wiki has an excellent, concise article on the San Jose mine accident — history of mining in Chile, history of the mine itself, geology and up-to-the-minute news on the rescue and current condition of the miners.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Copiapó_mining_accident#cite_note-69

  73. 73.

    Mnemosyne

    October 13, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    @MikeJ:

    That’s obviously bad, but has nothing to do with sex workers.

    It has a lot to do with it because he was able to blackmail them because sex work is illegal and he could have them arrested and thrown in jail.

    That, frankly, is what I find disgusting about Spitzer — at the exact same time that he was crusading against prostitution and sending sex workers to jail, he was hiring them on the side with the (sometimes implied, sometimes not) threat that if they told anyone, he would send them to jail, too. It takes a pretty sick person to do that.

  74. 74.

    Hal

    October 13, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Someone needs to do a what’s-the-frequency-kenneth on Tom Brokaw for that idiotic comparison between the word whore and the N-word in last nights CA Governor debate.

    What’s hilarious to me is Fox News pushing the equivalency while having it’s anchors utter the word whore, when they would never utter the n-word.

  75. 75.

    General Stuck

    October 13, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Gotta love the firebaggers. They are learning to cover the anti Obama battlefield from every direction with clown grenades.

    Earlier we had Glenn and Taylor Marsh, amongst others on the Obama is too mean to wingnuts front, concerning his bonging the Chamber of fucking Commerce, or wingnut central command. And on the Obama is a weiny giving aid and comfort to the wingers undercutting dems campaign message, we have Jon Walker whining about a boilerplate answer Obama gave when asked about what if the wingers take back the House.. Pretty soon Jane will chime in and call him a homophobe, like you know who. It’s an all out assault of ass backwardness, and reminds me of in HS, when one of our guys recovered the other teams fumble and raced for the winning touchdown. Only problem was it was in our endzone and ended up being a safety. Not the good kind of safety.

  76. 76.

    MJ

    October 13, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I agree. he’s is my kind of Democrat–smart, well prepared, and funny. But…I’ve gotta say, (speaking as an AA woman who usually doesn’t care about such trivial matters) Mr. Coons has an extremely… awkward … last name.

  77. 77.

    Art

    October 14, 2010 at 12:01 am

    @PurpleGirl: Thanks a ton for your input. My wife is in your camp: surgery now.

    But I’m a bit more conservative…which is funny as I am registered Democratic voter and she’s a Republican that votes sometimes (a sensible one, she voted Obama and will not vote for Raese). MY GP, new neurosurgeon, and a casual mention to my children’s pediatrician, have all said go conservative and wait out surgery.

    I am losing weight via dietary restrictions to treat high cholesterol and high triglycerides, but I need to strengthen my core where all my back ailments lie. I worked a lot a back breaking jobs from adolescence on, but lately with finishing my degree, certification, and being a stay at home Dad, I have become a noodle with a small gut (6′ 01″, 215).

    I wanna work on this physically and deal with the pain before surgery. That’s just me.

  78. 78.

    platonicspoof

    October 14, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Open thread!

    Now I can thank WP and this browser for the important life-skill of having learned to read text with a strikethrough just as fast as if it hadn’t been buggered.

    Starts at comment 24.

  79. 79.

    WereBear (itouch)

    October 14, 2010 at 7:02 am

    @Art: Google “The Egoscue Method.”

    worked great for me.

  80. 80.

    Steeplejack

    October 14, 2010 at 9:21 am

    @WereBear (itouch):

    Second the recommendation on Pete Egoscue, in particular Pain Free: A Revolutionary Method for Stopping Chronic Pain. Amazon link here.

    In short: four or five simple, no-stress exercises that help with the alignment problems that lead to back pain, etc. But much more than that, too.

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