I’m out of this one. I don’t think the sh*tty, excuse me, I mean, gritty little Bruins are playing this week. Don’t have to worry about a humiliating pasting.
Edit: though they have won some games. They really have. Seriously.
Weird. I can get the Kansas State-Missouri game on some obscure cable channel, but no sound. WTF? Back to Stoke City-Liverpool for background accompaniment.
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Cacti
So, has the NCAA determined if the Auburn QB is the highest paid player in CFB yet?
@Loneoak: I just payed $10 to get the damn Illini radio broadcast just in time to hear the gophers take the lead! That triple overtime may kill us twice.
9.
Bostondreams
Today is the day that every Gator fan and alum (like myself) has dreaded: Steve Spurrier, the Ol’ Ballcoach, is coming back to the Swamp, and he is coming with a real honest to God chance to take the East from the Gators.
Not that we deserve the chance to get drubbed in Atlanta by the War EagleTigers, but still…
10.
Corner Stone
@jl: If by some you mean knocking out Keenum of U of H and then drubbing UT in their house then yes, they definitely have won some games.
11.
Cheryl from Maryland
Go William and Mary! Let’s beat JMU and get in the playoffs!
12.
Phyllis
@Bostondreams: If the Gamecocks who pantsed ‘Bama show up, y’all are in for a long night. As a Gamecock fan, though, I can attest that we never quite know which team will show up.
@Thlayli: As much as I hate Ga Tech it’s better for Hokies if they beat the U.
And the Illini roar back!
17.
Joey Maloney
I got two nieces at Tennessee and a third that’s an Auburn alum. And you would not believe all the internet trickerfuckery I’m going through to watch their games from Tel Aviv.
@Joey Maloney: It goes back to his recruitment by Mississippi State. A friend of an agent (John Bond) claims his old man said it would take $200,000 for him to go to MSU. He didn’t but all kinds of other stuff has surfaced, alleged cheating on tests at Florida, a stolen computer. Somehow the FBI is involved so it’s juicy.
23.
MattR
@Joey Maloney: The short answer is: possibly. The long answer is that a former Miss St player (who was associated with an agent for NFL players) is saying that Cam Newton’s father approached him and said it would take $100K+ for Cam to go to Miss St. That was after he initially denied it when it was initially reported. There are other allegations that Newton plagiarized a couple of papers while he was at Florida. In both cases, there is no real proof of wrongdoing and there is nothing to indicate that Auburn has done anything wrong (though I think it is safe to assume that if Cam’s dad was trying to shakedown Miss St he was also trying with the other schools recruiting his son. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t find at least one school that would pay him, so that leaves the conclusion that Auburn paid him – again assuming that the allegations about Miss St are true)
There are some admittedly shady characters who are alleging Newton’s father solicited money from Mississippi St. coaches. I find it a little odd that your parents can completely fuck up your eligibility like that. I think they should have to prove you at least knew about it.
I don’t know if Newton’s going to play today. Shit, if I were Auburn I’d probably roll the dice and let him play.
@Mark S.: Well, our best player sat 4 fucking games for selling his OWN jersey on eBay and the university book store sells them in the bookstore every day.
31.
BGinCHI
And I’m calling a TCU upset right now.
SDSU will put some points up today.
If I’m wrong I’ll drink a whole bottle of mid-priced Tempranillo.
@Mark S.: If it is destiny it can’t be controlled, but you weren’t the first one to say it . Big Ten tie breaker for what? The BCS takes who they want. Three years ago Illinois beat Ohio State but, since OSU had a better overall record they got the BCS bid and the Illini went to the Rose Bowl. (also a BSC game)
35.
MattR
@Mark S.: I was actually looking at these last night. If I read them right, nobody controls their own destiny yet.
FYWP keeps eating this post.
And for some reason it does not like the link for the Big Ten tiebreakers webpage. I even tried tinyurl
36.
MattR
@stuckinred:There are some quirks to deal with the scenario if all tied teams have not played each other, but basically, the tiebreakers for the Big Ten are head to head, then overall record, then BCS ranking.
Although the pick order usually corresponds to the conference standings, the bowls are not required to make their choices strictly according to the won-lost records; many factors influence bowl selections, especially the turnout of the fans for past bowl games. Picks are made after BCS selections; the bowl with the #2 pick will have the first pick of the remaining teams in the conference.
The Capital One, Outback, and Gator Bowls can select any eligible team except a team that has two fewer wins or two more losses than another eligible team. The Insight, Dallas Classic, Texas and Motor City Bowls have no such restrictions, However, the bowls cannot select a 6-6 team if a 7-5 or better team is not selected by a Big Ten-affiliated bowl.[25][26]
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MattR
@stuckinred: This is why I was looking at it. If Iowa beats OSU then the three tied teams are all 1-1 against each other. So it goes to overall record which eliminates Iowa who has two losses. Then they go back to head to head and MSU gets in. If OSU beats Iowa you have the situation you describe. Since all three teams did not play each other they go to overall record, but all three teams will be 11-1. So they go to BCS rankings which is currently Wisconsin (7), OSU (9), MSU (11)
@MattR: Right but I still ask tie breaker for what?
44.
MattR
@stuckinred: The BCS has to take the Big Ten champion. The Big Ten gets to decide how that champion is named and they use those tiebreakers to do so. (Which BCS bowl they end up in is a different story)
EDIT: I have no idea why FYWP won’t let me link to the page on the Big Ten website that I am using, but it is titled “Method to Determine Big Ten Conference Automatic Representative to Bowl Championship Series” If anyone is interested, google that phrase and it is the top result.
@Corner Stone: Because they could. Personally, it’s ridiculous to do that.
Cam Newton seems to be playing steady unfortunately for him the rest of the Auburn players look awful.
Go GA..
@MattR: Strictly football. He’s all over them being tight, making mistakes all kinds of critiques that will make Bama’s red headed stepchild cry the blues.
59.
Corner Stone
Way too fast to the corner to be stopped on that TD by Auburn.
@Corner Stone: Yep, they are not just Cam, their backs are killers. Here comes the dawgs offense!
61.
MattR
@stuckinred: Ah. That I noticed (both the tight play and Danielson’s critique of it). Thought I missed some Cam Newton drama – I just heard on one of the ESPNs as I was flipping that his father supposedly admitted to soliciting cash without his son’s knowledge.
62.
burnspbesq
The idea of rooting for Georgia is making me queasy, but I’m doing it anyway.
63.
MattR
@burnspbesq: If it makes you feel better, think of it as rooting for the clock.
64.
burnspbesq
Northwestern’s starting QB wrecked his Achilles on the winning TD pass.
I would love to be able to go to Northwestern – Illinois at Wrigley next week, but there was only room for one trip to a game in the budget, and we’re going to Portland for the Duke-Oregon game over Thanksgiving.
65.
Yutsano
@burnspbesq: Just out of curiosity, how long are you going to be up this way for? As of right now I’m not going home for Thanksgiving and Portland is a direct shot down I-5 from my place.
Quick trip: arrive at PDX around lunchtime on Friday, and go straight back to PDX after the game on Saturday. Still working out what to do/see on Friday afternoon. Will have spouse and kid with me, so breaking away for a drink may be complicated.
68.
burnspbesq
Good day for Americans abroad: Stuart Holden scored his first goal for Bolton, and Michael Bradley scored for Moenchenbladbach.
@burnspbesq: Suggestion for breakfast if you’re staying in PDX before the game: Zell’s cafe in Belmont. Their scones they serve free with every meal are absolutely addictive, half their menu is guaranteed vegetarian, it’s affordable, and hopefully the weather cooperates enough that you get to dine outside.
@South of I-10: Well, it’s trite to say it but I’m proud of the way they are playing. The Hokies are my only bright spot today.
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Yutsano
Holy crap. My Cougs just won their first Pac-10 game in years.
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JPL
OMG, Even with all the terrible things going on this week, the coach of Auburn was still able to prepare his team. What booster is paying the announcers?
@Corner Stone: Because short of just taking a knee on every possession in the second half, I don’t think they could have not scored. IU put forth the worst defensive performance I’ve ever seen from a Division I school, and I grew up watching Northwestern in the era when they set the NCAA record for consecutive losses. On their last possession, UW was using their 3rd string QB–a walk-on transfer from Central Florida–and the Hoosier D basically just let him walk into the end zone.
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stuckinred
FUKIN A!
jl
I’m out of this one. I don’t think the sh*tty, excuse me, I mean, gritty little Bruins are playing this week. Don’t have to worry about a humiliating pasting.
Edit: though they have won some games. They really have. Seriously.
PeakVT
I hope the good guys win.
Steeplejack
Weird. I can get the Kansas State-Missouri game on some obscure cable channel, but no sound. WTF? Back to Stoke City-Liverpool for background accompaniment.
Cacti
So, has the NCAA determined if the Auburn QB is the highest paid player in CFB yet?
stuckinred
@Cacti: The Auburn fans around here are great. One day it is “everybody does it” the next it’s “we didn’t do anything”! War Eagle.
Loneoak
Stupid Big Ten Network. I hope the rest of the country knows what is happening to you soon.
stuckinred
@Loneoak: I just payed $10 to get the damn Illini radio broadcast just in time to hear the gophers take the lead! That triple overtime may kill us twice.
Bostondreams
Today is the day that every Gator fan and alum (like myself) has dreaded: Steve Spurrier, the Ol’ Ballcoach, is coming back to the Swamp, and he is coming with a real honest to God chance to take the East from the Gators.
Not that we deserve the chance to get drubbed in Atlanta by the War EagleTigers, but still…
Corner Stone
@jl: If by some you mean knocking out Keenum of U of H and then drubbing UT in their house then yes, they definitely have won some games.
Cheryl from Maryland
Go William and Mary! Let’s beat JMU and get in the playoffs!
Phyllis
@Bostondreams: If the Gamecocks who pantsed ‘Bama show up, y’all are in for a long night. As a Gamecock fan, though, I can attest that we never quite know which team will show up.
stuckinred
@Phyllis: Lattimore is obviously the key. Garcia is a bum.
Phyllis
@stuckinred: Well, yeah. Also key will be how spectacular the bonehead play Garcia will make is, because you know he’s gonna give us one every game.
Thlayli
I’ve got UM vs GT on ESPN3.com. It’s, well, better than nothing.
stuckinred
@Thlayli: As much as I hate Ga Tech it’s better for Hokies if they beat the U.
And the Illini roar back!
Joey Maloney
I got two nieces at Tennessee and a third that’s an Auburn alum. And you would not believe all the internet trickerfuckery I’m going through to watch their games from Tel Aviv.
stuckinred
@Joey Maloney: oy
Joey Maloney
I mean, I don’t usually care too much for football. But it’s a nice anodyne for a bit of homesickness, and It’s a way to feel close to my girls.
Plus in this case, as a former resident of Oxford I’ll never miss a chance to see Ole Miss humiliated.
stuckinred
@Joey Maloney: Well the best to you over there.
Joey Maloney
Thanks. Now, since I haven’t really been paying attention – what’s all this chatter about the Auburn QB? Did he do something wrong?
stuckinred
@Joey Maloney: It goes back to his recruitment by Mississippi State. A friend of an agent (John Bond) claims his old man said it would take $200,000 for him to go to MSU. He didn’t but all kinds of other stuff has surfaced, alleged cheating on tests at Florida, a stolen computer. Somehow the FBI is involved so it’s juicy.
MattR
@Joey Maloney: The short answer is: possibly. The long answer is that a former Miss St player (who was associated with an agent for NFL players) is saying that Cam Newton’s father approached him and said it would take $100K+ for Cam to go to Miss St. That was after he initially denied it when it was initially reported. There are other allegations that Newton plagiarized a couple of papers while he was at Florida. In both cases, there is no real proof of wrongdoing and there is nothing to indicate that Auburn has done anything wrong (though I think it is safe to assume that if Cam’s dad was trying to shakedown Miss St he was also trying with the other schools recruiting his son. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t find at least one school that would pay him, so that leaves the conclusion that Auburn paid him – again assuming that the allegations about Miss St are true)
stuckinred
GO DAWGS!
stuckinred
The Illini are doing there best to lose to the worst team in the Big 10!
Joey Maloney
NCAA – second in hypocrisy only to the Republican party.
Ole Miss on 4th and 37. HA-ha!
stuckinred
sunk by the Gophers
and Northwestern beats Iowa.
Mark S.
@Joey Maloney:
There are some admittedly shady characters who are alleging Newton’s father solicited money from Mississippi St. coaches. I find it a little odd that your parents can completely fuck up your eligibility like that. I think they should have to prove you at least knew about it.
I don’t know if Newton’s going to play today. Shit, if I were Auburn I’d probably roll the dice and let him play.
BGinCHI
Wisco put 83 points up against IU.
We’ll see if their b-ball team can top that.
stuckinred
@Mark S.: Well, our best player sat 4 fucking games for selling his OWN jersey on eBay and the university book store sells them in the bookstore every day.
BGinCHI
And I’m calling a TCU upset right now.
SDSU will put some points up today.
If I’m wrong I’ll drink a whole bottle of mid-priced Tempranillo.
stuckinred
Bye Bye Illini
and probably the Zooker
Mark S.
Big 10 tiebreakers, how do they work? Does anyone control their destiny?
stuckinred
@Mark S.: If it is destiny it can’t be controlled, but you weren’t the first one to say it . Big Ten tie breaker for what? The BCS takes who they want. Three years ago Illinois beat Ohio State but, since OSU had a better overall record they got the BCS bid and the Illini went to the Rose Bowl. (also a BSC game)
MattR
@Mark S.: I was actually looking at these last night. If I read them right, nobody controls their own destiny yet.
FYWP keeps eating this post.
And for some reason it does not like the link for the Big Ten tiebreakers webpage. I even tried tinyurl
MattR
@stuckinred:There are some quirks to deal with the scenario if all tied teams have not played each other, but basically, the tiebreakers for the Big Ten are head to head, then overall record, then BCS ranking.
stuckinred
Michigan State beat Wisconsin
Wisconsin Beat Ohio State
Ohio State does not play Michigan State
The Big 10 tiebreaker for the Rose Bowl is who ever went last, the other team goes. The conference has no say about the BCS.
Mac from Oregon
YAWN. Another Saturday, another Duck win. We will see someone in the Championship game, LSU maybe?
stuckinred
@MattR: Again, tie breaker for what? Remember the quirks involve the Rose Bowl.
stuckinred
Bowl selection procedures
Although the pick order usually corresponds to the conference standings, the bowls are not required to make their choices strictly according to the won-lost records; many factors influence bowl selections, especially the turnout of the fans for past bowl games. Picks are made after BCS selections; the bowl with the #2 pick will have the first pick of the remaining teams in the conference.
The Capital One, Outback, and Gator Bowls can select any eligible team except a team that has two fewer wins or two more losses than another eligible team. The Insight, Dallas Classic, Texas and Motor City Bowls have no such restrictions, However, the bowls cannot select a 6-6 team if a 7-5 or better team is not selected by a Big Ten-affiliated bowl.[25][26]
MattR
@stuckinred: This is why I was looking at it. If Iowa beats OSU then the three tied teams are all 1-1 against each other. So it goes to overall record which eliminates Iowa who has two losses. Then they go back to head to head and MSU gets in. If OSU beats Iowa you have the situation you describe. Since all three teams did not play each other they go to overall record, but all three teams will be 11-1. So they go to BCS rankings which is currently Wisconsin (7), OSU (9), MSU (11)
stuckinred
@Mac from Oregon: You’d be better off than playing Auburn.
stuckinred
@MattR: Right but I still ask tie breaker for what?
MattR
@stuckinred: The BCS has to take the Big Ten champion. The Big Ten gets to decide how that champion is named and they use those tiebreakers to do so. (Which BCS bowl they end up in is a different story)
EDIT: I have no idea why FYWP won’t let me link to the page on the Big Ten website that I am using, but it is titled “Method to Determine Big Ten Conference Automatic Representative to Bowl Championship Series” If anyone is interested, google that phrase and it is the top result.
stuckinred
@MattR: Right
Mark S.
I like how the Big 10 talks about tied games, even though tie games were eliminated in like 1997.
And they use as one of the criteria winning percentage of all games played? Way to encourage teams to play a cream puff non-conference schedule.
tulip
@Mac from Oregon:
Ha!
Roll on you Bears!
BGinCHI
UGA-Auburn tied!
And SDSU up a TD (see bold prediction above).
Plus, F Notre Dame.
Corner Stone
I didn’t watch it, but I’m not sure why Wiscy put up 83 points on another team.
BGinCHI
@Corner Stone: It was IU. Victimless crime.
JPL
@Corner Stone: Because they could. Personally, it’s ridiculous to do that.
Cam Newton seems to be playing steady unfortunately for him the rest of the Auburn players look awful.
Go GA..
stuckinred
Woof motherfucking woof!
BGinCHI
@stuckinred: Wow. Dawgs are rolling! Trying to get some work done in the library and this is getting distracting….
stuckinred
All my Auburn friends are going to be livid about Danielson win or lose!
stuckinred
@BGinCHI: Told ya, it ain’t over but it’s fun now!
stuckinred
Hokies with an int in the endzone, come on Santa!
Thank jeaesus for picture in picture!
MattR
@stuckinred: Was flipping channels. Was he critical of Cam or of Auburn’s handling of things?
stuckinred
@MattR: Strictly football. He’s all over them being tight, making mistakes all kinds of critiques that will make Bama’s red headed stepchild cry the blues.
Corner Stone
Way too fast to the corner to be stopped on that TD by Auburn.
stuckinred
@Corner Stone: Yep, they are not just Cam, their backs are killers. Here comes the dawgs offense!
MattR
@stuckinred: Ah. That I noticed (both the tight play and Danielson’s critique of it). Thought I missed some Cam Newton drama – I just heard on one of the ESPNs as I was flipping that his father supposedly admitted to soliciting cash without his son’s knowledge.
burnspbesq
The idea of rooting for Georgia is making me queasy, but I’m doing it anyway.
MattR
@burnspbesq: If it makes you feel better, think of it as rooting for the clock.
burnspbesq
Northwestern’s starting QB wrecked his Achilles on the winning TD pass.
I would love to be able to go to Northwestern – Illinois at Wrigley next week, but there was only room for one trip to a game in the budget, and we’re going to Portland for the Duke-Oregon game over Thanksgiving.
Yutsano
@burnspbesq: Just out of curiosity, how long are you going to be up this way for? As of right now I’m not going home for Thanksgiving and Portland is a direct shot down I-5 from my place.
stuckinred
GO DOGS!!!!! GO HOKIES!!!!
burnspbesq
@Yutsano:
Quick trip: arrive at PDX around lunchtime on Friday, and go straight back to PDX after the game on Saturday. Still working out what to do/see on Friday afternoon. Will have spouse and kid with me, so breaking away for a drink may be complicated.
burnspbesq
Good day for Americans abroad: Stuart Holden scored his first goal for Bolton, and Michael Bradley scored for Moenchenbladbach.
JPL
I don’t like Auburn.. that is all.
stuckinred
@JPL: Woof!
Yutsano
@burnspbesq: Suggestion for breakfast if you’re staying in PDX before the game: Zell’s cafe in Belmont. Their scones they serve free with every meal are absolutely addictive, half their menu is guaranteed vegetarian, it’s affordable, and hopefully the weather cooperates enough that you get to dine outside.
South of I-10
@stuckinred: Your Dawgs are killing me.
stuckinred
@South of I-10: Well, it’s trite to say it but I’m proud of the way they are playing. The Hokies are my only bright spot today.
Yutsano
Holy crap. My Cougs just won their first Pac-10 game in years.
JPL
OMG, Even with all the terrible things going on this week, the coach of Auburn was still able to prepare his team. What booster is paying the announcers?
stuckinred
@JPL: Cheap shot cyrbaby motherfuckers. Wait till you hear them when they strip them of the entire season.
John
@Corner Stone: Because short of just taking a knee on every possession in the second half, I don’t think they could have not scored. IU put forth the worst defensive performance I’ve ever seen from a Division I school, and I grew up watching Northwestern in the era when they set the NCAA record for consecutive losses. On their last possession, UW was using their 3rd string QB–a walk-on transfer from Central Florida–and the Hoosier D basically just let him walk into the end zone.