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Because Country First, That’s Why!

by John Cole|  November 15, 20104:45 pm| 42 Comments

This post is in: Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Even by WaPo/Fox standards, this Q&A with Schoen and Caddell was pathetic and nonsensical.

BTW- the last time some aging idiot babbled about country first, he pushed Sarah Palin front and center onto an unsuspecting nation.

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  1. 1.

    geg6

    November 15, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    What do you expect from dinos, John? They, according to my biology book in high school, have very, very, very small brains.

  2. 2.

    John PM

    November 15, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    These guys have “put country first” Tourettes.

    Obama should announce the abolition of Congress and the Supreme Court – then he can get some shit done! That would be putting country first!

  3. 3.

    soonergrunt

    November 15, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Please, please, please tell me that our resident WaPo chat-tweaker got at least one good one in on these assholes.

    Please?

    Lie to me if you have to.

  4. 4.

    kdaug

    November 15, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Is it obdurate of me to wish these cretins limit themselves to one term of writing idiotic opinions? And that, perchance, that one term has just expired?

  5. 5.

    BGinCHI

    November 15, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Oh, the stupid in this:

    And we wrote this article in the hopes that President Obama would put country first — and our nation’s problems ahead of its politics. …

    Obviously this is meaningless tripe. But it’s especially mindless because if these morans knew anything, actually substantively knew things and had thoughts, then they’d instantly recognize that “our nation’s problems” as well as its “politics” ARE our country.

    And we should be precisely “putting first” our problems and solving them. And you know who isn’t trying to do that? Yeah, these two, the pinhead pundits who listen to them, and the GOP.

    Assholes.

  6. 6.

    Ash Can

    November 15, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    From the poster’s commentary at the link:

    Even by the low, low standards of Post Q&As, this is particularly lazy.

    No, it’s not. Schoen and Caddell aren’t being lazy, they’re being so blatantly bigoted — whether anti-black or anti-Dem or both — that they’re floundering for words to use as a figleaf for their true intentions. As a result, they fall back on the same bullshit meme over and over again. It doesn’t really work as a figleaf, but when you’re trying to hide that much, nothing really will, or can.

  7. 7.

    suzanne

    November 15, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Who was that right-wing troll who used to hang out here and would end all his posts with “Country First”? That dude was awesome. I should go sneeze on his door handle.

  8. 8.

    Allan

    November 15, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Feel the Bloombergmentum!

  9. 9.

    TooManyJens

    November 15, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    God damn it, I needed those IQ points I just lost by reading that.

  10. 10.

    rickstersherpa

    November 15, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Although the WaPo was fairly neo-conservative and generally seethed with hatred for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, they seemed neutral on Obama until the Education Department like started applying standards and accountability to all the tax dollars going to Kaplan in the form of student loans who then ended up unemployed and not employable with their so-called credentials. Since then, Schoen and Caddell have become regular visitors ot the WaPo editorial pages. The WaPo editorial page is actually completely non-apologetic for using its space to flog the corporate interests.

  11. 11.

    Face

    November 15, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    this Q&A with Schoen and Caddell was pathetic and nonsensical.

    It would have been considerably better if it was T&A.

  12. 12.

    wasabi gasp

    November 15, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    We are all Wasilly now.

  13. 13.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    November 15, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    The Sadly, No! take on this is awesome, and the pix of Caddell and Schoen capture their manly-yet-forebearing, Country-First essence perfectly.
    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/33883.html#comments

  14. 14.

    Culture of Truth

    November 15, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Good lord, I lost several IQ points just reading that drivel.

  15. 15.

    licensed to kill time

    November 15, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Well, I refuse to read it and thus will never know what bullshit they are projecting onto Obama now.

  16. 16.

    harokin

    November 15, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Srsly, what does “this specific time of unprecedented crisis and division” mean? What is the crisis? High unemployment? Is this a rule, that any time unemployment is at or about 10 percent for 18 consecutive months, the commander-in-chief must announce he is a lame duck?

  17. 17.

    Culture of Truth

    November 15, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    coke to TooManyJens

  18. 18.

    phantomist

    November 15, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 125 76 60.8 1017 105.3
    2 David Garrard, QB JAC 180 125 69.4 1440 104.9
    3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 329 215 65.4 2944 102.9
    4 Tom Brady, QB NE 304 196 64.5 2176 98.8
    5 Vince Young, QB TEN 140 81 57.9 1090 97.6

    –Why do I think Schoen and Caddell would politely request 3 of the top 5 NFL quarterbacks retire and “put the NFL first”.

  19. 19.

    Anne Laurie

    November 15, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Dave Weigel’s take:

    … isn’t the point of the column that Schoen does work for Michael Bloomberg? Editors are only so interested in publishing endless “Michael Bloomberg should run for president” columns, and they are less interesting in running those columns from people with financial ties to Bloomberg. But package your argument for a wealthy liberal politician to save America as a contrarian “argument” for Obama to quit, and voila — instant interest!

    As the DC proverb goes: Follow the money.

  20. 20.

    beltane

    November 15, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    I thought I was familiar with all the well-known DINO hacks, so it comes as a bit of a surprise that I had never heard of Schoen and Caddell until about a month ago. They must be D-listers, the Rosenkrantz and Guilderstern of malevolent wankery.

  21. 21.

    danimal

    November 15, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Since opinion mongering and Fox News increase the partisan divisions in America, I call on Schoen and Caddell to quit their jobs immediately…for their country!

  22. 22.

    beltane

    November 15, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Virtually all of the Beltway media establishment are nothing better than court eunuchs who are thoroughly invested in serving the interests of the ultra-wealthy. In exchange for their devoted service, the media are showered with expensive trinkets and baubles and are hand-fed exquisite delicacies from their masters’ tables.

    Once you realize who these asshats really are, and what their function in society really is, nothing they say or do will be able to surprise you. The word “corruption” doesn’t even begin to describe what is going on in Washington these days.

  23. 23.

    Bob Loblaw

    November 15, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    @phantomist:

    I would instead ask what the fuck kind of list are you trying to pass off where David Garrard and Vince Young are better quarterbacks than Peyton Manning, myself…

  24. 24.

    Jeff

    November 15, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I think we have met the first human beings who could fail the Turing test.

  25. 25.

    Culture of Truth

    November 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    He should resign now, for the good of the country, and let a white guy take over.

  26. 26.

    Jeff

    November 15, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    I think we have met the first human beings who could fail the Turing test.

  27. 27.

    Culture of Truth

    November 15, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    I would also note the Civil War was pretty divisive, and Lincoln ran for reelection.

  28. 28.

    Tonybrown74

    November 15, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Wasn’t “Country First” McCain’s campaign slogan from 2008?

  29. 29.

    Lev

    November 15, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @Tonybrown74: I wish he’d kept the line about being “The American President Americans Have Been Waiting For”, which is shockingly upfront with its assumptions.

    The funniest thing? McCain seems to be more influential among Republicans than ever before.

  30. 30.

    phantomist

    November 15, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @Bob Loblaw: Agree or disagree it’s the current qb ratings.

  31. 31.

    Roger Moore

    November 15, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    @Culture of Truth:
    IOKIYAR. Not that Lincoln would be treated as anything but a RINO if he were dealing with today’s party.

  32. 32.

    Cris

    November 15, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    @suzanne:
    Atanarjuat.

    Country first.

  33. 33.

    Lev

    November 15, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    I’ve always believed in County First. Contra Costa for life, bitches!

  34. 34.

    Jeff

    November 15, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    @Bob Loblaw: and how are Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees 15th and 13th respectively!

  35. 35.

    J. Michael Neal

    November 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    @Jeff: Because the QB rating formula is moranic. It heavily weights the TD/Int ratio, which is a terrible measure. The next biggest component is completion percentage, which is another almost useless stat.

    Among the simple stats (staying away from Football Outsiders type stuff, since that makes TV analysts’ heads explode), there is one of them that is head and shoulders above the rest: yards per pass attempt. That’s it. A QB who goes 3 for 3 for 15 yards total is almost exactly as valuable as a QB who goes 1 for 3 for 15 yards.

    TDs and interceptions happen in sufficiently small numbers that they are subject to a lot of non-explanatory noise. On top of that, some interceptions are really the same as a punt. If it’s third down, the QB throws the ball 35 yards downfield and it’s picked, you really just punted. It’s not a big deal.

    Any amalgamated stat that doesn’t have yards per attempt as its primary component is no good. Allan Barra has been going on about this for years. I haven’t read him recently, but a decade ago, he claimed that the best QB in NFL history was Bart Starr. Football is enough of a team sport that I don’t think we can sort out who was really the best at any position (except, of course, that Jim Brown was the best running back evah), but Barra’s position is hard to argue with.

  36. 36.

    Remember November

    November 15, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    NO they have it all wrong- It’s

    Zillionaires first,
    Wall street Second,
    Justice third,
    Ethics fourth,
    Country fifth.

  37. 37.

    Kryptik

    November 15, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    What I still have not gotten clear from these two dipshits is ‘How does insisting he will not run in 2012 somehow put Country First?’

    They never quite get around to explaining it, they just seem to treat it as a given that it’d be ‘putting Country First’. And how does this ease away the divisions in this country? If anything, it’d make them stronger by completely and utterly reinforcing the impressions of ‘REPUBLICAN RIGHT! DEMOCRATS WRONG! CONSERVATIVES STRONG! LIBERALS FUCKING HATE AMERICA!’

    What bullshit.

  38. 38.

    Jeff

    November 15, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    @J. Michael Neal: I could agree with Bart Starr– as a son of the Fox Valley my self– but I would give a close second ( or maybe tied) to Johnny Unitas.

  39. 39.

    cckids

    November 15, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    They never explain how Obama announcing he’ll only stay 1 term will magically change the Republicans & make THEM put country first. The idea that suddenly the GOP will hold hands, sing Kumbayah & stop being oppositional asshats is pretty far-fetched.

    If he stated he wasn’t running, the only story line would be “told you he was weak”, then they’d carry on selling out “country first” to the highest bidder.

  40. 40.

    Nick

    November 15, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    @cckids:

    They never explain how Obama announcing he’ll only stay 1 term will magically change the Republicans & make THEM put country first. The idea that suddenly the GOP will hold hands, sing Kumbayah & stop being oppositional asshats is pretty far-fetched.

    They won’t, but it isn’t about that, it’s about getting the negro out of the way.

  41. 41.

    ricky

    November 16, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Speaking of things never explained, can anyone name a Democrat who has paid either of these two for anything resembling professional services in recent memory?

    I ask because my inner progressive voice cries out to scream “Primary his ass.” Or at least boycott his away games.

  42. 42.

    iLarynx

    November 16, 2010 at 8:55 am

    The entire Republican contingent of the 112th congress should put the country first and resign. You’d avoid much of the partisan bickering, get more done, and the place would smell a lot better too.

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