If you ever wondered how much of a douchebag Tucker Carlson is, wonder no more:
What can you buy with food stamps? Pretty much anything sold in a grocery store, other than tobacco, booze and hot food. To find out what that really means, I took my November stipend to Whole Foods, a pricey organic food emporium that is as much a yuppie metaphor as it is a supermarket.
My first stop was the seafood counter, where I found the thickest swordfish steak I could, which at $18.99 per pound also turned out to be the most expensive item in the department. Then I headed to the coffee section, where I dropped $11.99 for a pound of fresh roasted beans.
From there, the milk aisle, where $8 bought a half gallon of pure organic goat’s milk. Nearby was the cheese section, where I found a tiny wedge of fancy-looking cheese from some European city I’ve never heard of and threw it my cart.
Last I hit the produce section, where I discovered a small but tasty-looking container of Chanterelle mushrooms. Price? $13.99, plus tax.
At the checkout line, I whipped out my shiny new Electronic Benefits Transfer card and watched the cashier ring up my order. The total (minus the cheese, which I discarded at the last moment) came to $51.10. Not bad for a gourmet meal, especially since I wasn’t paying for it.
In this shocking report, we learn that if you lie about your economic situation, defraud the government, and receive food stamps, you can spend it all in one night on really expensive food. And the reason you can do that is BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC SITUATION AND WON’T NEED THE FOOD STAMPS TO EAT FOR THE NEXT FUCKING MONTH. People who actually need food stamps, however, won’t be doing this, because they need to make that small amount of money last for the entire month.
Thanks for the insight, Tucker. Fucking wingers. God I hate Republicans.
And daddy’s money will buy him the best defense when charged.
They truly don’t fucking get it.
Fucker Carlson lives up to his name. What a fucker.
You left off the last part where he pays a homeless guy to piss on him in the park.
Obligatory “this is an insult to douchebags” comment.
The Breitbart School of Journalism is in full-force. Next: welfare queens who have CELL PHONES!!!
Every time I see one of these “reports” about how rich kids play at being poor just so they can make “tsk tsk” noises, my belief in God dies a little more. Not a single one of them hit by lightning.
In light of this game-changing report, I propose that Obama negotiate with the Tucker Carlson party in abolishing food stamps and requiring poor people to pay a new tax on past benefits whereas John Cole will defend the Presidents pseudo-progressiveness by saying ITS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN and YOU MIGHT BE A RACIST IF YOU CRITICIZE THIS
Boyle swears he reported all actual income, including parental support on his cell phone bill alone. Angelo of @StopBeck was pressing him on it – Boyle’s Twitter name is @mboyle1
But now I look at the math, and it seems like at a minimum he’s getting $75 a month. Is that a lot in food stamp assistance?
So, their rallying cry is really going to be “Government Dessert Panels (but not Death Panels)!
Whenever I saw little Pucker on the tv (thankfully a rare thing now), I used to change the channel. I had to: The physical urge to pummel his smug face until there was nothing left but a bowtie floating in a puddle of liquid was just way too strong to be healthy.
I’m really not a violent person, I swear (Only Bill Kristol comes close to getting that same response from me).
Oh. My. Sweet. Baby. Jesus.
He outfuckered himself. And that is saying something.
And here is what life is like for people in need in the real world (Food Stamp Use Soars in 2010).
Putting this in human numbers: “A stunning 42,389,619 now use food stamps, up 58.5 percent from August 2007, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data from August cited in the story.”
42 million human beings.
my belief in God dies a little more. Not a single one of them hit by lightning.
I swear they’re 1 irons, which, as golfers know, not even God can hit.
So Tucker now wants to legislate at which supermarkets food stamp recipients can shop? Cheapo Foods or Canned Goods Only stores, perhaps? Or maybe he doesn’t want “fish” to be allowed on food stamps, even if that means a family can’t buy a giant bag of frozen farmed catfish. Coffee shouldn’t be allowed? I guess the massive tub of store brand ground coffee is off the list.
What a complete d-bag. I hope he enjoys the mercury poisoning from that swordfish.
Why doesn’t he just advocate labor camps for the poor? It would be more honest than the bullshit he came up with.
[email protected]Joseph Nobles: A bit on the low side — average monthly benefit under SNAP is $130 or so, and with the cost of living in DC, I bet it’s higher. Basically, he’s getting a small-ish benefit because he reported some income, but not enough to put a roof over his head and feed himself without some help from his parents (which he admits in his “How I got Food Stamps” article.)
In other words, he’s an asshole.
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I was on food stamps once, years ago. What I remember about it was how no matter what you did, no matter how hard you tried to stretch the food out, by the third week you were eating beans three times a day and just in a holding pattern until the next book of stamps came (yes, it was a long time ago).
I also remember how great a banana tasted after a week of practically starving. Like ambrosia.
That little fucker Tucker should try eating for three months on nothing but what his food stamp allotment buys him. the heartless little bastard.
I had a friend back in the 80s who had a government job (I think it was state funded) to show folks on food stamps how to stretch their dollars at the market. I remember tortillas with cottage cheese and beans being one of her suggestions. Most folks I ever knew on assistance had all kinds of strategies for making those dollars last the mont – including dumpster diving at the supermarket (back before they locked them up).
Creative – yes. Glamorous – no.
Has their ever been a “Tucker” in the history of the world that wasn’t a douche?
And just how much winger street cred did the douche lose being spotted in WF? And how did the clerk not sense such douchebaggery just pouring from his douchey facade and call shenanigans on his food-not-stamps?
And so swordfish and fungus really go together?
Oh, give Tucker a break. He had to suffer the humiliation of going to St. George’s School in Newport instead of Andover. Don’t tell me he doesn’t know what it’s like to be downtrodden.
It’s really kind of amazing how weak an argument someone will earnestly pursue (or, in terms of the audience, accept) when defending obviously fallacious yet deeply ingrained ideas. The staggering part is that this phenomenon isn’t just some weird little rarely observed facet of human thought. Rather, it’s the driving force behind almost everything that people do, say and believe.
It’s not quite so infuriating once you understand and accept this reality.
Jay in Oregon
Of course not, John; it’s in the name.
@Violet: I guess Tucker wants to see checkout clerks having veto authority over particular items. No, that wouldn’t create needless bureaucracy and slow everything down for everyone.
Oh wait….Tucker doesn’t want there to be food stamps at all. Sorry. Got it now.
Also, too, failed Delaware Senate candidate christine odonnell lamented the McConnell/Obama tax cut deal because it……extended unemployment benefits, which was just as bad as Pearl Harbor.
I love the fact that this is called the “DCInvestigation.”
By investigate he means use a (government supplied) debit card to shop in stores already known to accept that card for goods already known to be eligible for that card.
I call Inigo Montoya on this pompous, self-righteous moral crater.
@Punchy: Tanya Tucker. Mo Tucker.
But agreed, naming your kid Tucker is cruel.
Culture of Truth
The Republicans I know eat that stuff up. So to speak.
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I would like a safe to fall out of the sky, like they do in cartoons, and land on Fucker Carlson.
he is such a loathesome turd. If he got run over by a bus, I would do the fucking Snoopy dance.
I’ve wanted to see him sleeping on the ground in a back alley for years. The snide SOB has been punching poor people for as long as I’ve seen his fucking bow tie on TV.
This falls squarely on the mind numbingly stupid side of the stupid-evil continuum. That anyone would think this is a compelling argument is laughable. You know what else? Someone can spend their entire unemployment benefits on Farmville goodies! ZOMG! And what about those lazy old people sending their Social Security checks to Glenn Beck and Pat Robertson? Oh wait, Tucker’s probably cool with that.
Culture of Truth
Can you buy brandy and cigars with bailout money?
Ok, can you buy anything else?
I wonder how much it would cost to pay regulators and/or commissioners to determine which supermarket products are financially and nutritionally acceptable, and keep that global list updated, AND set up and operate the systems to police the whole program, ensuring that only federally-approved products are purchased. I also wonder how much money and time would be wasted by big food producers trying to get their products on the list, and litigate when they’re excluded. All of these costs and inefficiencies, though, are totally worth it, if it will help us sleep better at night knowing that we’re doing our part to keep some hapless folks sufficiently hapless, lest they be tempted to abuse our collective largess.
This is one of the reasons I also gave up on my crazy youthful indiscretion of Republicanism – the continued insistence on using individual morality plays as a basis for public policy.
a) Find someone doing something we don’t like,
b) Bring the policy banhammer down, whether or not it makes any damn sense, and whether or not the consequences are worse than the “problem” being solved. As long as we stick it to someone we don’t like, it’s a good policy.
I especially enjoy the implication that there’s a Whole Foods conveniently located in every low-SES neighborhood across America.
Or does he think that the poor take a two-hour one-way bus ride across town simply for the sweet, sweet pleasure of defrauding him and his rich homiez?
You know, that’s actually kind of tempting.
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Also, what the hell is up with this site today? I can hit refresh or submit, take a walk around the block, hit the john and come back to find the page still ‘loading’. Arrrrggggghhhh.
Are there no workhouses?
What a dickless little douche. No doubt with this bit of “investigative” reporting he’s trying to earn a coveted position in the teabagger circle suck.
In a likely related note, states like MS and TN reliably and unquestionably vote for politicians who would gladly destroy the food stamp program, institute a poor-killing regressive fair tax, and allow all corporations to pollute every last ounce of dirt in the state.
So go fuck yerselves, TN and MS.
@Punchy: I know a perfectly nice border collie named Tucker. Unlike the human Tucker, Tucker the border collie actually works, on a farm, and has the good manners not to piss on poor people. The human Tucker’s greatest accomplishment happened a long time ago, back when Mrs. Carlson spread her legs for Mr. Carlson. Other than be born to rich parents, what has this asshole ever achieved?
Calling it the bottom of the barrel would be an insult to barrels.
Don’t miss the comments on the Daily Caller article, where anyone who points out that this doesn’t work for people who really need food assistance are shouted down by the Galtian Brigades screaming about how nobody really “needs” food assistance because they have bootstraps
I highly doubt Tucker has ever spent much time outside his comfort zone, too scary. I’d like to see Tucker and his family be dropped into some small, rural redneck town to live for several months on their own as in a PBS Frontier House scenario. That would be a reality show I would watch.
When Tucker thought it was irresistible and funny to pretend to be Keith Olbermann trashing his boss, I wondered how he, a parent, explained to his kids how that was acceptable behavior.
@Tony: That’s what I thought, but the average $130 is bone-chilling.
He swore everything else came from his student loans. Of course, with this story, he’ll be angling for wingnut welfare to get those loans paid off.
By the way, this is Tucker Carlson’s website, folks, but the douche-in-training is Matthew Boyle. Not that anyone needs to stop bashing the now-bowtie-less wonder on my account, have at it, what do I care.
Used to be food stamps (in California) were issued on a sliding scale, whereby the recipient would copay some amount, depending on income, e.g., pay $35 to receive coupons worth $50. Only the truly poor received them for free. Does the program no longer operate like this?
I’m surprised li’l Tuck didn’t try to make a Caddy downpayment with his card. Not doing a very good job being a welfare queen, is he?
Seriously. It seems to me that the Holy Free Market has spoken and supermarket owners have decided they don’t want to pay to have their checkout clerks spend extra time being food stamp enforcers. You’d think a fine conservative like Tucker would respect that.
@Culture of Truth:
‘Course they do. They also get their bow-ties in a twist if anyone suggests that the Welfare Banksters not be allowed to spend “our” taxpayer money on bonuses.
That is about 50% of allowed food stamps, at least in NY & CA.
There’s a reason Tucker Carlson was added as a macro for the “Privelege-Denying-Dude” meme.
all true, except tucker didn’t write this…
Many years ago I wondered. But then I stopped wondering and just accepted it. I think everyone who reads this site has probably stopped wondering also.
Nevertheless you continue to post about it. Why? That horse (jackass?) is dead. Move on to something new and substantive. Or maybe just cut everything except:
“God I hate Republicans.”
I hate not having an edit button… link is fine.
If anyone here knows someone who is using food stamps and who could benefit from something like this, here is a guy who eats pretty well on $1 a day. http://www.grocerycouponguide.com/articles/eating-well-on-1-a-day/. Not all the meals sound very good, but he was doing it as a challenge. Probably most people would already have some staples, like oil, spices and condiments, which he didn’t have when he started, so had to budget for out of the $1.
Jeez, Brachiator. Haven’t you heard that “Kick the Poors” is such a popular game Inside the Beltway that the networks are thinking of doing a reality show?
not Carlson. ’twas Matthew Boyle.
Was Whole Foods out of rat poison?
That’s actually quite a serious weight loss diet he’s got there. One swordfish steak, cheese, milk, mushrooms and some coffee for a month?
That’s some extreme calorie restriction.
But, I wonder, won’t his milk go bad before the month is over? Or will he just use it to make more cheese?
so should people using ebt at whole foods just be shot on sight? it’s a fair question!
“In this shocking report” we relearn that:
Ultra-wealthy right-wingers are always the first in line for a government handout (that is meant for the least of US);
Ultra-wealthy right-wingers always abuse government welfare (that is meant for the least of US);
Ultra-wealthy right-wingers always defraud the government; and
Ultra-wealthy right-wingers love themselves some socialism (as long as it’s for them and not for the least amongst US).
See: Republican Welfare Queens Michelle Bachmann, Joe Miller, Charles Grassley, and every Republican taking Socialist-Government health care./b>
@licensed to kill time: You capture my life perfectly.
I hope Tucker realizes that by defrauding EBT/food stamp cards, he’s now liable to PAY THE GOVERNMENT BACK.
Actually, now that you mention it, no — I’ve never wondered about how much of a douchebag Tucker Carlson is.
Tucker Carlson is indeed a douchebag, but the byline of that Daily Caller article is “Matthew Boyle.” Who, I might add, appears to be a douchebag.
i like how the small government conservatives are mad that the government isn’t telling people what kind of foods they can and can’t buy.
@TooManyJens: The only solution is government run grocery stores where only acceptable items are available for the poor. The current system of distributing food just simply isn’t working.
The author, in his other article about how “easy” it is to obtain food stamps, could not have entirely disclosed all of the outside financial assistance he is reliant upon or he would have been turned down. That outside assistance includes some or all of his rent being covered by his parents.
I’ve been on food stamps. I am disabled, and my wife’s job in 2002-03 did not pay enough for us to make it each month. Our rent wasn’t $1365/month, like the author’s, but $455/month. We cut corners everywhere and wound up with the scintillating sum of $96/month assistance.
Sure, we could have blown it all on a trip to Whole Foods (there wasn’t one where we lived then), but then we’d have been eating twigs, bark and the living room carpet the rest of the month. No perfect organic moment for us, I’m afraid.
This guy is committing fraud, straight out, and parading around as if he has uncovered some gigantic welfare scam. It literally makes me sick. I can only hope he breaks his fucking arm patting himself on the back.
If his byline is his real name a call or two to the relevant DC offices to drop a dime might be worthwhile. His next article could be all about how easy it is to defend himself against charges of defrauding a government agency…
Dunno how it works now, but in the ’70s in MI a food stamp recipient had to hand over their food money for the month to the state in return for food stamps with a somewhat larger value. Value determined according to need by a complex formula. This obviously was highly restrictive and discouraged participation.
so has anyone living in Tucker’s state thought to turn him (or Matthew Boyle) in for fraud??? because that’s what they’re guilty of by lying about their economic status to get food stamps… if they actually did it and are not just making shit up, which for Tucker seems to be how he operates.
So Tucker wants an elaborate system of classicfications so people with no money can only buy low-priced poverty food. Guess who would be first in line to bitch about the federal bureaucracy and workforce that would have to be hired “on my tax dollars” to administer such a system.
Besides, any man under 70 who wears a bow tie un-ironically is a douchebag until proven otherwise.
We need a “Young bucks buying t-bone steaks” tag.
His 15 minutes of fame when Jon Stewart called him a dick?
Back in the day when I was in the military, it was not unusual for lower enlisted ranks to be able to qualify for food stamps if they were married with kids.
One C.O. I knew actually had some of his staff assigned to help with filling out the applications and getting it submitted.
I’ve heard that is still the case.
Why does Tucker hate our troops?
This is a pretty common Republican theme, actually: if a government program can be defrauded by criminals, that means we have to end the program that was attacked rather than, you know, prosecuting the goddamned criminals who broke the law.
Unless it’s military procurement, in which case fraud is a feature, not a bug.
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@licensed to kill time:
Jeez, you think folks like Tucker would quit disparaging Whole Foods, as the place is run by winger who doesn’t believe in climate change or healthcare reform.
Also, rich or poor, you’d be a fool blowing through money to buy at Whole Foods. For the poor, it’s Grocery Outlet time. And for those unlucky enough to live in “food deserts” (areas too far from practical reach of a good grocery store), your choices aren’t even as good as Grocery Outlet. Places like Central Market in Poulsbo and Seattle WA are useful because the food is so local and so fresh that it is actually cheaper than a lot of the things you’ll find at Safeway or QFC. Unless you want to try and live on Hungry Man Dinners or the equivalent dog food.
Beans & tuna become your constant, meat is chicken or nothing, and that’s rare. Seafood is something you hear about other people eating.
But hey – at least I don’t have to wear bow ties.
NEWS FLASH: FOOD STAMPS ALLOW PEOPLE TO BUY FOOD!
I think “God, I Hate Republicans” is our newest candidate for becoming a tag.
@Dork: Dork, I wish you and others would look at exit polling data before making comments like this. I have. Those under $30,000 in income overwhelmingly vote for Democratic candidates. They are not voting against their economic interests. It’s a myth that blames the victims. The people above $50,000 and usually above $100,000 are the ones overwhelmingly voting against the economic interests of those who earn under $30,000. As someone pointed out, it’s Republicans went after ACORN so hard. It’s also a sign of the class warfare that goes on. The solution is not to blame them. It’s to find people like that and empower them either through information or voter registration.
There are restrictions on what you can buy with Assistance, but they’re broad categories of obvious things like drugs, booze, guns, hookers, etc.
Placing more specific controls on available products would work for the GOP on two levels:
1) Look tough on the poor for good Con cred.
2) Allow lobbyists from the Potato Chip/Snack Food Council to buy their way back in with campaign donations.
Its the Daily Caller that I think of first when someone mentions original investigative reporting. The story of what can be purchased with food stamps (spoiler alert: food) has never been presented in such a brilliant, insightful, and important way.
I would also like to point out that this prick would blow his stack at the suggestion we shouldn’t use taxpayer supplied bailout funds to pay banking executives huge bonuses, but gets his panties in a bunch over a few thousand dollars worth of food stamp fraud.
The Daily Caller must be doing really badly if its employees are eligible for food stamps. Where are the Koch brothers when you need them?
Food stamps depends on the income, and size of the group. For example, my son lives in a half-way house for drug addicts. The house has 6 residents. Each of the 6 residents has zero income. Each of the 6 residents are considered a family of 1. (rather than a group of 6) My son receives $200 (the max for 1 person in Louisiana) per month. Dividing $200 by 4.3 weeks per month, gives him @ $46 per week for 21 meals. Dividing $46 by 21 meals, gives him @$2 per meal. Needless to say, he skips many meals. One can get by on this amt of food stamps if you make a big pot of beans & rice and eat it all week. If you choose to buy a big steak or lobster, then you go hungry for many meals as a consequence.
Once a month I load up the trunk of my car with groceries and non-food items (food stamps does not buy toothpaste, soap, toilet paper, washing powder, deod, etc….personal items, household cleaning items) and take it to the house he lives in. If I did not do that, my son would starve! Also, I hate it that it is cheaper for my son to buy non-nutritious items than fresh, nutritious items. Cheap, frozen pizza is a staple. Cheap colas are bought instead of milk. That’s why I take salads, fruits, meats, veggies, milk when I go visit.
Also, let’s not pretend the coffee at Whole Foods is fresh roasted. It isn’t.
my single, 22 year old, alcoholic, manic-depressive mother, my cerebral palsy-afflicted sister, and i lived on food stamps, WIC, and anything else we could get, for many years. we weren’t eating no fucking swordfish steaks. we ate a lot of day-old bread, generic mac n cheese, and drank a lot of powdered milk.
good times! yay!
Matthew Boyle sounds like a spoiled douchebag who has never once had to wonder if he’ll get to eat today, or not.
As I read this I’m eating the same lunch I eat every day. It costs $0.60 and I eat it because I really like Ramen, curry and frozen vegetables together. Enough to eat that for lunch 6 days a week for now. That’s 6 lunches for $3.60.
I could probably eat pretty well on food stamps.
My beatdown fantasy is Fred Barnes, and it involves a curbstomping that he wouldn’t survive.
You know what, I’m going to go ahead and give Boyle a grain of credit. His piece does demonstrate something worth noting: that it is possible for someone who doesn’t really need assistance to acquire an EBT card, and use it abusively. That’s a reasonable thing to bring to the attention of the public, or more reasonably to the attention of the agency administering the program.
But the problem — the douchebaggy part — is that his article focuses on the “gourmet” food he can buy with his EBT card. As though there’s something wrong with that, as though poor people only deserve to eat shit (see also: poor people shouldn’t have cell phones).
Blue Gal / Fran Langum
In Alabama and Mississippi they TAX FOOD at 8 percent, and if you’re in some metro areas there’s local taxes ON FOOD on top of that. That means you get an approximate ten percent discount on your food stamp allotment every single month. Not making that up.
@Ross Hershberger: Why not expand your horizons and bring microwave popcorn into your diet?
This just brings me back to a place where I made butter and lettuce sandwiches and was hobbling (recovering from DVT) to the local farmers market and chinatown to make my $130 last for nearly a month. I learned how to bake bread and make pasta because bulk flour was cheap, bread wasn’t. meat was 99¢ a lb chicken wings from chinatown and my treats were the cheap tea and a baker at the market who’d give me a 2 for 1 deal on a brownie. Me, my cane and a a bunch of bags. Knowing I’d be stuck with a slice of homemade, butter and a lettuce leaf within 3 weeks as my midday meal. Good times. Hah.
Fuck you M. Boyle, I hope you get arrested for fraud.
Also, the talented Mr. Boyle had the gall to tell one food stamp recipient on Twitter explaining his situation that he was “one of a few who really need” food stamps. See, there are only a few who need food stamps and the rest are young bucks buying mixers for their next house party.
He just posted a twitpic of the candy left over from his $100 splurge. So remember this name! We’ll be seeing this resourceful right wing propagandist again.
Over and over again.
When I was on assistance, meager as it was, this calculation dominated our household thinking.
I’d like to see that asshole author get his advanced degree while consumed, day and night, by the idea that tomorrow he may not eat a fucking thing.
@Mike G: young galts buying swordfish steaks?
“So Tucker now wants to legislate at which supermarkets food stamp recipients can shop?”
The real blindness is that the people who DEMANDED that food stamps assistance can be spent on virtually anything?
That would be the food producers – large businesses.
They defintely don’t want their products cut out of the allowed list. Plus, the grocery stores want an easy life.
Just try to say ( in actual regulations) ‘ok, you can buy the cheap fish but not the expensive fish’.
There could be plenty of good government liberals proposing changes that would make food stamps healthier and more economical (chips that cost $6 for a pound bag of potato, fat and salt???) and the accusations of mommy statism from Frito-Lay would make your head spin.
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@Fallsroad: Nothing focuses the mind like
( Imma complain again this site loading like old cudlip :(
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So Tucker has proved that if the government redistributes wealth to entitled twits like himself they squander the money on overpriced crap.
If I was on assistance I would not be such a spendthrift…but then I never have felt comfortable mooching off of my parents or the tax payers.
@Joseph Nobles: God I’d love to see that smug little prick prosecuted for fraudulently collecting government benefits.
Someone has applied the meme to that one, too.
and an actual comment on the article:
There are more factual mistakes in that “sentence” than there are words.
You Don't Say
And he’s wrong: you can’t buy toothpaste, shampoo, soap, etc., with food stamps.
I wish your son well in his recovery. I hope he learns that it is a life-long process.
Fuck. Is this the new, improved website?
This pisses me off.
He should go talk to a disabled friend of mine who gets by on $135 month in food stamps. — it was $160 but they just reduced it. And that’s it for the month. She also has to spend carefully and not get food that is too difficult to eat because she has lost a number of her teeth but can’t afford to get them replaced — they don’t do that kind of dental work at the dental school she goes to get her basic care.
Wonder how many replacement teeth for poor US citizens the Iraq War would have paid for?
There’s going to be stiff competition with “First against the wall when the revolution comes.”
My ex boyfriend was on Food Stamps/EBT in NYC for a year or so. We used to almost exclusively use the card at Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and farmers’ markets…because those are honestly the only places in NYC where you can get good quality, healthy food. WF/TJ are just as inexpensive as regular supermarkets in NYC if you shop smart (choose generic stuff, buy ingredients for multiple meals, etc.), and the quality of other NYC supermarkets is abhorrent – minimal selection of healthy food, and more than once I’ve unpacked my groceries and found I’d bought expired products. I was always skeptical of Whole Foods’ prices until I actually had to start shopping there, and found it was possible to do it on the cheap.
Could we have stretched the EBT even further? Well sure, we could have used them at a bodega and bought 500 Huney Bunz and Nutty Bars, but the entire point of food stamps is to enable families to eat wholesome meals instead of snack foods.
Which is a good time to bring up the fact that the people who bitch about food stamps and poor people are the same assholes who bitch about “the obesity epidemic” and how gross fat poor people are costing good rich people millions of dollars in healthcare costs. Guess what? Healthy food costs WAY more money than junk. This isn’t the poor’s fault, and if republicans are so worried about the Untouchables blowing their food stamps at rich people supermarkets, perhaps they should think about encouraging the government to subsidize fruit and vegetable farms, instead of cheese n’ chicken nugget factories. Salads might actually become affordable, and the underclass could find the ingredients for Tucker Carlson-approved meals in the aisles of their own ghetto bodegas (where they belong, damnitt).
here’s the DC Dept of Human Services web site.
i couldn’t find an on-line fraud reporting link, but there is an on-line comment page (which has no problem with such phrases as “this man” and “seems to be” and “committing fraud” – it also has no problems accepting URLs. ahem) . and there’s a bunch of promising phone numbers.
The Other Chuck
That series on $1/day eating was clever, but it’s more accurately described as “Tricky Coupon Gimmicks Using a Seed Purchase of Only $1 a Day”. Nice trick if you can swing it, but I’m pretty sure everyone doing it would see those loopholes closed right quick.
When we were on the stamps, we thought it would sure help if they had a discount on produce… to try to encourage more healthy eating…
I’d like to see a Capra version where Clarence shows Tucker what a nice place Bedford Falls would have been had Tucker never been born.
I hope he at least had the decency to take a genuine poor family out to dinner to make up for the food he’s indirectly taking out of their mouths by consuming a finite resource they depend on. Probably not, though, because then he might actually have learned something about what it’s really like to be poor. The only guy this guy could be more of a monster would be if he literally tore food away from poor children with his own hands . . . but I’m sure he’s too much a coward to try that. Some six-year-old might push his face in.
Tim in SF
Tucker’s douchebaggery is matched only by his Dickensian commenters. Wow. What an ugly world they would make if left to them.
While it’s true that you CAN do that on the first day after receiving food stamps … and it’s also true that many people DO do that on the first day after receiving their stamps … what it ALSO means is that those same people who can’t budget their money throughout an entire month will starve in the last week.
@Nimm: yes, i think the odds are low that these cadillac-driving moochers (plural, of course) would rather be griping to some old crank about tax cuts for the rich instead of moving on to their next ebt scam at whole foods, or maybe even just calling it a day and heading home to their section 8 palaces.
Small problem with John’s “YOU ARE LYING ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC SITUATION” narrative.
TheDC Investigation: Food Stamps are easier to get than you think
He is just one of those duped Redstate stupid poor people who votes Republican against his own economic interests.
I once felt sympathy for him when he was falsely accused of raping a woman who turned out to have a chronic mental disorder.
He didn’t remember it because he never actually went to the city in which she claimed the rape took place. Ever.
That feeling of sympathy? Yeah, it’s pretty much gone. That may seem callous, but over-privileged dickwads need to be taken down a peg any which way possible. Bad things should happen to bad people. That’s the only way they ever learn.
Here’s actual journalism: This CNN reporter lived on food stamps for a month.
The funny thing is I’ve never wondered how much of a douche bag Carlson is….
@cleek: By following your link I found a phone number to report Public Assistance Fraud:
Public Assistance and Fraud Investigation DHS (202) 673-6960
I just made some home made potato chips last night, It’s amazing how far a potato does not go.
They tasted great but its tricky keeping the slices to 1mm (for maximum yum) with just a knife, But I REALLY love my new knife, it’s super! http://www.japanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=05.100.20&dept_id=13198 I also got the $35 santoku, they are Blissfully sharp.
Great Cheap knives help you make great cheap food =)
Strangely enough, the Young Galts are really into dehydrated foods that you can store while waiting for the Muslim terrorists to take over the country from Real Americans(tm). Here’s a selection:
Hmmm. Shelf life.
Part of the whole problem is that Tucker isn’t really unique, or even uncommon. An anecdote to demonstrate, if I may.
I used to go to this church. The women’s group there got hold of a book that recommended people try to live for a period of time – a year if possible, at least a month – on the income of the poor. Not bad, except for what these women selected as their test income: double my salary. I, making a bit more than the US median of the time, was “poor” in their eyes. And the fuss they made of it… Oh, horrors, they could only manage ONE trip to Europe that year on that income.
The icing: they considered themselves middle class.
“They’re out of bread? Then let them eat cake.”
And yet, these are the same asshole Republicans who cried corn syrupy tears when LIBRULS made plans to remove soda from food benefits. Lord knows that god gave us mountain dew, not chanterelles.
HA HA ONLY LIBRUL WEENIES KNOW GEOGRAPHY AMIRITE
Anyone have any good Matthew Boyle recipes? One that fava beans and a nice Chianti would complement nicely?
The Caller web-editor Tucker
Is a most supercilious fucker.
When I read his damned site,
I shout: “Take this, and bite!”
Then I add, bending over, “Now pucker.”
We were on food stamps at one point and man i was so grateful for that money. The one thing I found (which I still do now) is buy large cuts of pork or beef that could be cooked and used in 3 or 4 meals or a whole chicken that you can get at least 2 meals from and soup if your lucky.
The thing that Tucker and his ilk forget is that food stamps are not for the poor. If the only people who benefited from food stamps were poor people then there would be no food stamps.
But they keep hungry, poor people from rising up and they make sure that places like WalMart have lots and lots of customers who can spend money and keep them in business.
@batgirl: Repost: Public Assistance and Fraud Investigation DHS 202 673 6960
ETA: ok, once more 202 673 6960
Everyone loves food stamps, business, agriculture, everyone.
Food stamps feed the low-wage workforce.
We couldn’t be paying people 15k a year without a food voucher. The workers would be hungry (way less productive) and they’d start demanding a wage they can live on.
The people who actually receive the voucher are probably benefited least.
Speaking of which (WalMart to End Extra Pay for Sunday Shifts):
This has been another bitch slap brought to you by courtesy of the Invisible Hand.
@Carnacki: The might be true if you said minorities making less than $30,000 overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. But here in Alabama (and probably in most of the red states) poor whites skew heavily Republican.
@Joseph Nobles: No, not for a whole month. And that’s the point. $75 has to cover the entire month, which leaves very little for anything else.
What Tucker refuses to realize is that food stamps don’t try to tell people what they can buy if it’s food, simply because people’s diets for both health and other reasons vary.
@Brachiator: and that doesn’t count the homeless and others that either can’t get / won’t apply because of pride.
@batgirl: I also emailed HHS using the address at http://www.ehow.com/how_5510624_report-food-stamp-fraud.html
Just to ensure that this guy was reported from another department.
@kay: The HR people at many of the big-box megamarts helpfully steer their employees to government programs designed for people who can’t feed or insure their families on the shitty wages they pay. Which also frees up more of their meager income to be returned to their employer as customers via their purchases. Sweet, huh?
@oorgeny: In West Virginia and Kentucky, data I’ve studied, it’s poor whites who vote solidly Democratic. I could not find exit poll data for the 2010 race.
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from Benen’s place
The High Cost of Low Prices documentary goes into the number of Mall-Wart employees on Medicare and food stamps, it’s loathsome.
I feel completely comfortable telling people to apply for food stamps.
As far as I’m concerned, it’s a direct government subsidy to low-wage employers. We’re quite literally feeding their employees, and their employees children. I don’t think the end recipient of that “largess” should feel any shame, certainly. It’s payment in kind.
They’re keeping the wheels ‘o commerce moving, and everyone’s getting paid.
I just wish conservatives would stop lying about it, with this incessant whining and finger-pointing.
It’s time to rename food stamps “food vouchers.” Vouchers are always good because when people are thus empowered, they always make the right, rational choice.
Yes, and also the middle class people who go to some Food Banks because they want to avoid the “stigma” of welfare or food stamps. And also those who make “too much” to qualify for benefits, but who are still hanging on by a mere thread.
@oorgeny: Looking at the 2008 exit poll data for Alabama, those under $30,000 — 13 percent of the voters — went 53-38 for Obama. However, that is not broken out by race.
@Dork: You know Ezra Klein had to amazing graph up the other day about the percentage of each quintiles of educational achievement and whether the members of that group vote or are unemployed. Poor people do NOT vote. Absolutely never. When I tell my disabled clients to remember who got them future healthcare benefits, they all know it was Obama, and absolutely none of them cares enough to vote. They just don’t see the point.
It’s why Republicans like gridlock and making voter harder. Anything that turns people off of the political process or, even better, makes the act of voting ANY harder than it already is ratchets down the turnout of the poor and helps the plutocracy maintain its power
42 million human beings…in the richest country in the world.
Noted for posterity. Posted at 4:16 pointing out the average monthly benefit of food stamps ($101 for a single person, $227 for a household according to FNS website). Let’s see how long it lasts.
@Carnacki: Hmmm…could that be a function of local politics where “Democrats” are nothing but conservative Republicans who call themselves Dems because white folks, in the past, always voted for Democrats (Dixiecrats). Bobby Bright here in Al is a good example, opposed to anything that would benefit is poor constituents. But, when you look at the last Presidential election, less than 10% of the white vote in Alabama went to Obama. With a median family income of about $40K, that means a whole lot of poor whites voted for McCain/Palin, In addition, the “always voted for Democrats” thing is vanishing and conservative Republicans are taking over at the local level as well.
I agree. They are vouchers. I just want everyone to admit they’re in on the deal. Food retailers, food producers (whole states), part-time and low wage employers, etc.
I’m okay with it, I guess, but I think Tucker Carlson is looking at the wrong beneficiary with his withering scorn.
Has a libertarian ever identified a “problem” correctly, let alone solved one?
I don’t think so.
@Calouste: Long live HHGTG
@orogeny: Yes, the racial breakout is done for the $50,000 and under demographic and McCain killed it, but that’s going to include a lot of people not on food stamps which prompted my original reply upthread.
Here in WV it’s easy to figure that most of the $30,000 under vote that went to Obama 62 to McCain 37 percent is white voters since 97 percent of the state is white. These were people not voting against their interest, but there were not enough people in that population voting to make up for the more well-to-do people willing to throw fellow Americans to the wolves.
@Scott Supak: As Michael Pollan noted in The Omnivore’s Dilemma, there is a subsidy in every grocery store and it’s toward almost every bad thing in the store and livestock….
Hey now. Matthew Boyle is a “Professional Journalist.”
Matthew Boyle doesn’t look like someone who has ever missed a meal. And I suspect he grabbed the last pork chop more than his share of the time.
@licensed to kill time: Well, that’s why I’m proposing that the new START be amended to provide for the elimination of targeted weapons by having them inserted in Tucker Carlson’s ass, launched into deep space, and then detonated.
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@fasteddie9318: Ah, the Strategic Tucker Ass Reduction Treaty.
jake the snake
@Blue Gal / Fran Langum:
In Kentucky the sales tax (6%) does not apply to food.
In Tennessee the sales tax (8+ %) does apply to food.
In my hometown on the KY side of the state line the parking lot of the local Walmart is packed with Tennessee license plates on Thursday and Friday.
The problem with Conservatives – or at least that kind of Conservative – is that they see the world exactly the opposite of Blackstones Formulation “Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer.”
They’d prefer to see ten poor families starve than one rich college student by Cheetos and Coke.
I once was arguing with a guy about this kind of thing. He told me about somebody his wife works with, who had, as a young woman, had a couple kids out of wedlock, and been on welfare for a while. She was able to go to college on Pell grants, and was thus able to get herself a good job that paid a reasonable salary.
I told him this was a success story, that she is the very reason those programs exist, so that people can pull themselves up out of poverty.
All he could focus on was that she had gotten all that ‘for free’, and even worse hadn’t been required to pay it back!
In this installment of ‘How Rudiak’, Natalia shows us how to perform this experiment properly:
I don’t know if there’s some kind of special New York law regarding expiration dates being printed on the inside of grocery packaging, but this smacks of “caveat emptor, dipshit.”
I’m assuming this is likely a case of canned/packaged food, not so much the eggs or milk you’re conditioned to check.
So, if I understand the article, not only can you buy food with food stamps, you get to pick what food you buy. Mind blowing. Thank goodness Tucker Carlson is around to shine some light on the important news that the lamestream media is afraid to address.
I’m surprised the piece of shit author of this crap didn’t mention all the TV dinners he could buy with his food stamps. Especially since Tucker Carlson’s mother inherited the Swanson food fortune. The fucking ironies.
I worked at a grocery store, and I saw a bunch of people come in and get crab legs, lobster, shrimp, etc, to the tune of a hundred bucks a pop with their damn EBT card.
Yes, I saw plenty of people buy “normal” groceries with their cards. You know, the kind of mom-and-pop, buying a cartload of essential staples for the kids and spouse type of shopping.
I never judged a single one of those people.
But to all the loud, obnoxious people who would come through, buy seafood that I with a working man’s salary could not afford to eat with a government-funded card, only to then whip out a wad of 20’s to buy their smokes and beer…
Yeah that fucking pissed me off, and it still does today.
Tucker Carlson is a shit-eating bastard, but he’s not completely off base here.
So I guess the alternative is that the government tells food stamp recipients exactly what they’re allowed to eat.
Doesn’t that bump up against the Nanny State outrage?
Ozymandias, King of Ants
@Blue Gal / Fran Langum: I grew up in California, where most food in not subject to the sales tax. When I first went to Alabama to meet my girlfriend’s family, I was appalled that they taxed food. Really just shocked.
Of course, that was pretty much my reaction to everything in Alabama. I was pretty numb after that trip.
@thejoz: He most certainly fucking is off base here, because the implication that it’s being exploited by the working class, not the trust fund parents-pay for everything shitheads like Carlson and his stooge.
Why are you giving him so much credit? Do you recall how the “young buck with t-bones” are used in dialogue about all government spending, to those who need it the most?
You legitimize these faux-fiscal conservatives with your lazy understanding of the discussion.
I understand the despite of ‘wingers. I do not, however, understand the despite of Republicans. There are many of us who agree with you, here.
“And through a warp in the space-time continuum a post appeared on balloon-juice from some time in the future that showed that Tucker Carlson and Matt Boyle were the first against the wall when the revolution came.”
Well, looks like WalMart has succeeded in making the poor too poor to even shop at WalMart.
@jake the snake: In MN, they do tax soda and candy, but they don’t tax if you’re paying with EBT, or at least that’s the way it worked when I worked as a cashier in a small grocery in a poor neighborhood 20 years ago.
@Carnacki: I notice that the well-off are also the first to scream at anyone who mentions anything about the growing income inequality–because, you know, it’s not that class warfare is bad, it’s that mentioning it is bad manners.
@CircleSquared: Not only is it bad manners, but bringing it up is WORSE than the existence of inequality. See passive/institutional racism, active sexism and any other discussion of privilege. It’s just untoward.
Perhaps food stamps should be called “loaves and fishes.” I like this version of the miracle from the Wikipedia:
They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.
Ya know, it would be a real shame if someone reported Mr. Boyle for possible welfare fraud.
Yep, a real shame.
@licensed to kill time:
Wile E. Quixote
Things to do while in Washington, D.C.
1) Visit Smithsonian Institute.
2) Visit Air and Space Museum (I know this is part of the Smithsonian, but it gets its own day).
3) Visit Lincoln Memorial.
4) Visit Vietnam Veteran’s memorial.
5) Visit World War II memorial.
6) See Washington monument.
7) Nail doors to The Caller shut during working hours. Set building on fire.
8) Nail doors to the Washington Post shut during working hours. Set building on fire.
Well thank FSM (and unions) for Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
The Other Chuck
Of course not. The purpose of government is to keep _those_ people in line after all.
I was disheartened to read an otherwise decent piece about “poverty in suburbia” in the local Gannett rag, recently. One divorced mother of two? three? explained that she made “about 10 bucks more than what would allow me to get food stamps.” That’s a tough spot, for sure.
However, she made a choice to stay in the suburban home post-divorce, for her kids, so her housing cost was higher than it might be. I understand; kids can keep friends and school, which is a good thing. Then the article described how she tried “not to be frustrated when she stands in the checkout line and sees people using food stamps for fancy snacks.”
Dammit, I wanted to pen a LTO, but I wasn’t sure of the facts. I just hate to see the “young bucks” thing perpetuated ad nauseum. Like we shouldn’t feel bad for
blackpoor people because they buy the wrong stuff with assistance. Fuck Reagan in his fucking grave!
This is all hilarious coming on the heels of Snowbilly Princess decrying fascist schools for discussing a “no-cookie” plan for NYC schools. Hell, my local WNY public school banned all home-baked snacks years ago. Parents have the option of store-bought or cafeteria-baked cookies or snacks, for food safety.
Aside from an established list of what food items poor people are allowed to eat, I’d really like to make the facts of food stamps, WIC, Welfare and other programs required in order to graduate high school, 2 year, and 4 year college programs. And you have to score an 80% or better on a test of the facts in order to get a drivers license or purchase a damn gun! Or vote, also.
I know I’m going too far. But I’d really like people to have facts before they have a fucking douchebag opinion.
How soon we forget the purpose of food stamps and why they are administered by Dept of Agriculture and not by HHS – they are subsidy to farming industry, not to poor people. We have grain subidies, we have fiber subsidies, then we have subsidies of the processed food industry (food stamps). I’m not sure the commodities program that Dept of Ag had is still up and running, but it was a subsidy for the dairy industry – federal government bought lard, butter, cheese, dried milk, and some other items and these were passed out to poor people as well. I knew a lot of poor college students who survived on commodities.
SNAP Fraud and Abuse
It is illegal to knowingly use, transfer, acquire, change or possess SNAP benefits or South Dakota EBT cards in any way not authorized by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. If the value is $100 or more, you could be charged with a felony. If found guilty, you could be fined up to $250,000, be sentenced to 20 years in jail, or both.
Persons found guilty of intentional program violations may be disqualified from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program 12 months for the first offense, 24 months for the second and permanently for the third offense. In addition, the court will require repayment of any unauthorized SNAP benefits issued.
Poor people tend not to vote — as do young people. If this could be changed, our whole political system would be transformed overnight. And there’s no reason in theory why this couldn’t be changed.
Notice they spend it in a conservative owned store.
Also no mention of poor people wasting it on cheap and nutritiously lame Swanson Frozen Dinners
“Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well- warmed, and well-fed.” Herman Melville
I just went through 6 mos. with food stamps and it allowed me to by better food such and fruits and vegetables. So I didn’t have to eat fucking Raman noodles or a McDonallds double cheese for a buck.
I’m off the card now cause I went above the allowed limit for monthly income. Good for me. Asshole Carlson should be reported as there are serious penalties for lying about shit like your income etc.
You can be a Good Republican or a Good American; you cannot be both.
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Sister Inspired Revolver of Freedom
Being disabled, and living on a stipend that seems to be getting smaller per month, I am looking to start baking my own bread for that exact same reason. I’m also looking into whatever else I can make for myself. The problem is laying in the supplies that will make that possible; I have to save up for them. We don’t have food stamps in Canada, and, because I have IBD, I can’t turn to the local food bank. Since I have Crohn’s Disease, I have to be able to pick and choose my food, and you can’t do that with the food bank.
I’m always surprised when it occurs to others that Tucker Carlson is a waste of protoplasm. I’m sure if we ignore it, it will go away… at the very least, we can ignore the unfathomable shallowness in which this pig wallows.
Time to break out my Tucker Carlson joke:
Q: Why does Tucker Carlson wear a spotted bowtie?
A: Because he’s a fucking asshole.
@Moe: Fuck you, Moe. Seriously, fuck you.
I really really hope today’s conservatives evolve out of the dumbest fuckers on the planet trend they’ve chosen to be in. It could be generations. Many generations.
I say again: how can we destroy these people?
“Fucking wingers. God I hate Republicans.”
We should start a club. :&)
@Dork: So go fuck yerselves, TN and MS.
Lol, I think you explained how they are pretty much doing that already.
so i take it Tucker consumes nothing but Velveeta, since he has such visceral, palpable disdain for that yuppie European cheese? Yeah right…”a country he’s never heard of” — what a twit.
I love how he feigns ignorance of the huge amount of WF generics which are actually not that pricey for what they are. Most non-yuppies like myself who sometimes shop there tend to buy mostly the generics because they’re vastly cheaper.
Shorter Tucker: Poor people should have to eat crap…to remind them that they are poor and thus inferior to among others…moi.
Can’t he be jailed for fraud?
I’m on EBT. You can’t buy anything but food. That’s fine, but what about toilet paper, dish soap, diapers, feminine hygiene and other things that are not food but that people really, really need? The joke I tell is, “you can eat, but you can’t shit or do the dishes afterward.”
@I.M. Agoste: We’ll never know until everyone reports him, of course.
@Joseph Nobles: I am a single person receiving Social Security Retirement income of $586. I get $66 in Food Stamps. The maximum amount for a single person is $200 with very little income. I sincerely hope that Karma is paying close attention to Tucker Carlson and his minions. He is so deserving of attention from that source.