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by @heymistermix.com|  December 30, 20103:32 pm| 68 Comments

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I sense creeping Galtism amongst the FP crew, but perhaps some of you are feeling more communitarian.

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  1. 1.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    December 30, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Happy New Year?

    Any New Year’s resolutions? Mine is to be more assertive.

  2. 2.

    Evolved Deep Southerner

    December 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    If y’all want some lessons in Going Galt, you need to get with Larison.

    He hasn’t put up a new post at Eunomia since the 21st gloating about New START and how foolish Kyl, Palin, Romney and the gang looked. That may be on purpose, though, as much as he talked about New START and the stupidity of its opponents.

    Still, when he decides to Go Galt, by God he has no trouble doing it, unlike Mr. Cole. None of this “Fuck y’all, I’m gone for a while” only to come back and post 45 minutes later.

  3. 3.

    DJShay

    December 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    I don’t make New Year’s resolutions. They always get broken, then I feel guilty for the rest of the year. I day at a time is my motto.

  4. 4.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Most of the folks have left work here. The others are milling about in cubicles talking about nothing. No one is visiting my office.

  5. 5.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    @DJShay: So make a resolution, break it the next day, and then resolve each of the next 363 days not to feel guilty!

  6. 6.

    Chyron HR

    December 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    I liked that King of the Hill episode where Bobby got Galt and had to ride around on the little scooter.

  7. 7.

    Shinobi

    December 30, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    I’m still capitalistically stuck in the stupid office. It’s as if we aren’t all just sitting here wishing we could leave or something.

  8. 8.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    December 30, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    @LGRooney:

    No one is visiting my office.

    nobody likes visiting the dentist.

    on the other hand, you could pull a Palin and put on a tight mini-skirt with some sexy heels, that usually reels in all the guys.

  9. 9.

    DJShay

    December 30, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    @LGRooney: It’s a plan!!

  10. 10.

    freelancer

    December 30, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Driftglass linked to someguy I don’t read who did a Swift Memorial Roundup of 2010, which is worth checking out. One of the posts mentioned was Cole’s nutshelling of Wingnut Wurlitzers/Puke Funnel, media cycles, and how American Politics works. That post is amazing.

  11. 11.

    Redshirt

    December 30, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    I’m so busy!

  12. 12.

    FlipYrWhig

    December 30, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    @Chyron HR: From eating at the New York-style deli!

  13. 13.

    DJShay

    December 30, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    I’m still at work, but fixin to leave. So, in the 5 minutes it will take me to get to my car and get to my apt (l live right across the street from my job) here’s yet another right wing freak out. This time they’re boycotting Justin Bieber. Yeah. That guy:

    So it was quite a surprise this month to read that Sullivan has set his sights on a new target: Canadian teen pop superstar Justin Bieber.

    Mosque foes recently started a boycott of Bieber after he made comments in support of the mosque project in an interview with Tiger Beat, a teen fan magazine, Sullivan told WYNC earlier this month. Now, his 8-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son have been banned from attending Bieber performances.

    I informed them, ‘Hey guys, guess what? Justin Bieber spoke out for the ground zero mosque,” Sullivan explained to Salon in an interview. “My little girl took down his poster and said she didn’t want to have nothing to do with him anymore. These are my kids. They’re living this thing.”

    A Facebook page has been set up by an ally of Sullivan publicizing the boycott of Bieber and several other pro-mosque celebrities. It has attracted nearly 500 fans.

    Wow. That would indeed be something if it was was real. What Bieber said I mean. Apparently the Tiger Beat interview was a hoax. Yeah. I’m SHOCKED that RWNJs would believe a hoax.

    Celebjihad.com seems to specialize in softcore celebrity porn, but poke around a bit and you find this disclaimer:

    CelebJihad.com is a satirical website containing published rumors, speculation, assumptions, opinions, fiction as well as factual information.

    I was able to reach the proprietor of the site, who confirmed that the Bieber item is in fact a hoax. “[T]he fact that some people take it seriously is hilariously depressing,” he said in an e-mail.

  14. 14.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit): I’m not particularly interested in reeling in the guys to my office and I am quite certain that my legs, even if I shaved them, would not be much of a draw even in heels. Of course, if I did something to draw in the women, my wife would be cheesed – and she would find out – and I don’t want that headache. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

  15. 15.

    Suffern ACE

    December 30, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    I want to start baking again this year, but I also need to lose 40 pounds. I’m wondering how to do both…

  16. 16.

    kindness

    December 30, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    resolutions? What like I now have to promise myself not to vote republican? That I’ll lose 20 lbs? That I’ll quit sniffing model glue?

    Well…..I resolve to have as much fun as humanly possible on New Years Eve watching the reincarnated Grateful Dead in SF.
    Sadly, I’m the designated driver…..does that mean I can’t do psycadelics? (or learn to spell properly)

  17. 17.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    @DJShay: Unless you call the highway a street, want to explain why you drive that far? Are you in LA?

  18. 18.

    schrodinger's cat

    December 30, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Where is our esteemed blog host? Or has Tunch finally got rid of him and escaped to warmer climes?
    I think I have spotted Tunch in disguise

  19. 19.

    CADoc

    December 30, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    I too am longing to go home. This is the slowest time of the year, I guess because people leave town and the real macho viruses have not yet arrived. In March when the true flu season and allergy season hit at the same time, I’ll be looking back fondly to this week.

  20. 20.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    @Suffern ACE: If you’re any good, sell it! You can get your fix dipping your finger the batter and make money on the rest! Or, don’t use a mixer or blender or food processor or kneader… just do it by hand. It’s a decent little work out.

  21. 21.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    December 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    @LGRooney: that’s so unfair. guys actually have to be good looking to reel in chicks, were as women only have to dress scantly and wear falsies.

  22. 22.

    DJShay

    December 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    @LGRooney: LOL! Right across the street is far? I’ve been on the same tank of gas for a month :-)

  23. 23.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit): I’d second that resolution but need to check with my wife first to see what mine is.

  24. 24.

    Bulworth

    December 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    I can’t believe I’m in the office today…Coulda, woulda, shoulda gone Galt.

  25. 25.

    MikeJ

    December 30, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Bake, but bake badly.

  26. 26.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    @DJShay: A joke, son! You’re built too low to the ground! The fast ones go over your head! You’ve got to keep your eye on the ball! Eye… ball. Eyeball! Almost had a gag… joke, that is.

  27. 27.

    cathyx

    December 30, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Bake and donate to a soup kitchen.

  28. 28.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit): That’s only because we men are such idiots to go gaga so simply. As long as we keep falling for it, the women will keep doing it to us.

  29. 29.

    Suffern ACE

    December 30, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    @MikeJ: I actually think that might work. I’ll call it “experimenting.” (I wonder what would happen if I added two extra cups of flour and left out the sugar…hmmm)

  30. 30.

    General Stuck

    December 30, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    but perhaps some of you are feeling more communitarian.

    I hereby refudiate your communitarian .

    And why does FF redline “refudiate” when it is now an official Palin Speak. Don’t those geek hippies watch the news?

  31. 31.

    LGRooney

    December 30, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Don’t just leave out the sugar, put in some unsweetened cocoa!

  32. 32.

    freelancer

    December 30, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    THANK YOU, Cole, for the new rotating header. I don’t know when it got added to the mix, but it’s freaking perfect. Also, as a member of your readership, I must say, all your blog are belong to us.

  33. 33.

    D-Chance.

    December 30, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    I sense creeping Galtism amongst the FP crew,

    Unfortunately, not enough of them. The C-lister is still active, it seems…

  34. 34.

    gbear

    December 30, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    The week between Christmas and New Years always feels lost in a fog. I’ve been at work all week and have actually gotten a lot done, but I’m falling off a cliff this afternoon. When I get home, the car may just sit in the garage until monday.
    One of my fave guilty pleasure dumb web sites, ‘Happy Chair is Happy’ went galt a couple weeks ago. It had been sliding downhill a bit but I still has a sad to see it go away.

  35. 35.

    Gravenstone

    December 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    @D-Chance.:

    Unfortunately, not enough of them. The C-lister is still active, it seems…

    Yup, you chimed in right on schedule…

  36. 36.

    R-Jud

    December 30, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    I am done with work for 2010. I am making this, plus some homemade shortbread, for a Hogmanay-themed house party tomorrow night and two of these, which someone here linked to a while back, for lunch the following day.

  37. 37.

    JPL

    December 30, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: lol.. I hope the blog host sees that .

  38. 38.

    schrodinger's cat

    December 30, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    @JPL: I love that photo, the kitteh looks so Zen, with the cabbage leaf over his head.
    As if he is saying, human, I look cooler than you even with this cabbage leaf over my head.

    P.S. Have you noticed the kitteh’s tail? definitely Tunch…

  39. 39.

    asiangrrlMN

    December 30, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit): Ha! You funny.

    @DJShay: I don’t make resolutions any more, either, for the same reason. Instead, I set up the goals I want to meet for the year and the steps I will take to meet said goals. Oh, and I brood about what I didn’t do in the current year. Good times.

  40. 40.

    schrodinger's cat

    December 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Did you check out the photo I posted, in my earlier comment? I think you will like it.

  41. 41.

    Wiesman

    December 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    I have a bleg. (Or whatever it is called when someone begs for something in the comments of someone else’s blog.)

    I belong to a political book club and the book we are reading now is “Economics in One Lesson” by Henry Hazlitt. Apparently this book is a Libertarian manifesto even more revered than Atlas Shrugged.

    Anyway, I already have thought up some of my own criticisms of the book (lack of empiricism, straw man arguments, the assumption that because something should happen eventually that it will happen quickly enough to matter) but I would love to find any good rebuttals to the arguments made in the book. Teh Google has not been helpful, believe it or not.

    Any help appreciated.

  42. 42.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit):

    Mine is to be more assertive. </blockquote.

    Fuck off, asshole.

  43. 43.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    @kdaug: @kdaug: I mean, not to you personally, but just as an example of how to be assertive.

  44. 44.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    @kdaug: Not that I meant to hurt anyone’s feelings.

  45. 45.

    Montysano

    December 30, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    So, a couple of months ago, I bought a ’95 Volvo 940 for $1K. It’s the 5th red-block Volvo that we’ve owned, and it was the sweetest.

    This morning, a young woman sailed through a stop sign and I nailed her. No injuries, thankfully. Was texting involved? Can’t prove it, but I’d bet on it. Her Kia is fucked. My car had both airbags deployed and the windshield broke. I scooped up some parts off of the street, started it, and drove the 4 blocks back to my house. But I’m sure it’s totaled, which is a damn shame.

    I see massive amounts of Pinot and a trip out back to the shed in my near future.

  46. 46.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    @kdaug: If I did hurt your feelings, I certainly didn’t mean to. You’ve always seemed like a nice enough guy in my book.

  47. 47.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    @kdaug: And now I’m thinking I never should have written that post at all.

  48. 48.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    @kdaug: I’m sorry.

  49. 49.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    @kdaug: Please don’t hate me.

  50. 50.

    El Cid

    December 30, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Some time way way back I did something on the FireDogLake site (I don’t know, signed up for a list, donated money to a candidate, whatever).

    So I still get these e-mails. I get a ton of e-mails from political things and websites and only read a few.

    This one did in fact make what sounds to me to be some fairly grandiose claims, of course, depending on whether or not it’s meant to say that that website and its authors did these or progressives / whoever in general were those who achieved this list.

    Sounds to me like the former. Make your own mind up.

    Firedoglake serves some of the best stuff in politics: effective advocacy, fiercely independent reporting, and unique opportunities you won’t get anywhere else.
    __
    And we get results. We won an audit of the Federal Reserve. We beat back the banks from profiting off of student loans. We won safety protections for BP oil disaster cleanup workers. We reported on foreclosure fraud before anyone else. We saved Social Security from the Catfood Commission.
    __
    That’s not even half of what we did together in 2010.

    I don’t know about the foreclosure fraud reporting. I wouldn’t know who uncovered that to some greater degree.

    Maybe the FireDogLake website and readers and activists really did all those things. I would think that this would have been major national if not international news, but I guess you never know, right?

  51. 51.

    General Stuck

    December 30, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    @kdaug:

    LOL, you may need some lessons. Post assertive profuse apology is a step forward, then 12 steps back.

  52. 52.

    agrippa

    December 30, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    maximum galtism:

    Ayn Rand stated, “I am not going to die, the world is coming to an end.”

    pure black humor.

  53. 53.

    JimK

    December 30, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    WoooHoooo! An Albuquerque Low for Colorado! It’s about time, worked outside for 25 years, the one winter inside-NO SNOW! Well, Well.

  54. 54.

    freelancer

    December 30, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    @kdaug:
    @kdaug:
    @kdaug:

    No more “whatever you’re having” for you.

  55. 55.

    General Stuck

    December 30, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    @El Cid:

    Could be some of these things they did. But I personally beat back the banks from profiting off student loans. Me and my friend Magoo.

  56. 56.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    @freelancer:
    I’m sorry.

    I guess I just don’t do “assertive” very well.

    Asshole.

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    December 30, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    Bake really badly.

  58. 58.

    El Cid

    December 30, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    @General Stuck: You know what they say about success having a thousand fathers. On the other hand…

    I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.
    __
    I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.
    __
    Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I’m bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard.
    __
    I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.
    __
    I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don’t perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a travelling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children trust me.
    __
    I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.
    __
    I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis.
    __
    But I have not yet gone to college.

  59. 59.

    JPL

    December 30, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    @kdaug: It was funny though.

  60. 60.

    kdaug

    December 30, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    @JPL: I aim to please.

  61. 61.

    Anoniminous

    December 30, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    @Wiesman:

    This, will give you a starting point.

    Found the link for the above here.

    Steve Keen has some good stuff, although nothing I could find – in a quick skim – specifically on Hazlitt.

    One problem with discussing economics with the Right Wing is, by-and-large, they haven’t actually sat down and read the books they so glibly mis-quote. And they certainly haven’t read any criticisms of their vaunted ideas. If they had they’d know the re-establishment of the Gold Standard in 1873 sent the US economy into a 30 year recession, ultimately giving rise to William Jenning Bryan’s “Cross of Gold” speech.

  62. 62.

    Mojotron

    December 30, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    saw this over at Sully’s site and laughed.

  63. 63.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    December 30, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    @kdaug: tease :^(

  64. 64.

    Ab_Normal

    December 30, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    @Wiesman: I found this by Brad DeLong:

    http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/04/economics_in_on.html

    by checking Mike Huben’s Critiques of Libertarianism

    http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html

  65. 65.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    December 30, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    @El Cid:

    This one did in fact make what sounds to me to be some fairly grandiose claims

    I’m Shocked! I’m Shocked!

    Her royal highness herself posted on July 1st that Pelosi would ram social security cuts down our throats during the lame-duck session. Of course Pelosi’s repeated denials didn’t extinguish the conspiracy theory.

    Nevertheless, like a grifter, her claims are contradictory. She takes credit for stopping social security cuts, yet she’s currently circulating claims that cuts will happen in the state of the union address.

    but I think my favorite was when she claimed to have personally led the impending primary defeat of blanche lincoln on HuffPo a couple of weeks before the actual election occurred. Of course, the beauty of a self-reinforcing echo chamber is never having to peel the egg of your face. also too, never dance on a grave before the funeral.

  66. 66.

    ruemara

    December 30, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    Do what I do. Bake, and fatten your friends and co-workers.

  67. 67.

    Mike Kay (Christine O'Donnell's Co-Witch)

    December 31, 2010 at 12:22 am

    test

  68. 68.

    Wiesman

    December 31, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Thanks to Anonimous and Ab_Normal. I’ll take a look at those links.

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