The International Space Station passed in front of the sun for 9/10 of a second during today’s solar eclipse, and this guy captured it in an amazing picture.
And this gas worker was able to co-discover four exoplanets (planets orbiting other stars) by spending hours analyzing data.
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funluvn
Absolutely awesome! I wonder if they did that on a sound stage in Hollywood?
BGinCHI
The guy who discovered the planets lives in Yorkshire. Usually a story like this from there involves a guy lying in a ditch and looking at the stars.
El Cid
@BGinCHI: Not only that, the discoveries had nothing to do with a telescope. At least not for him directly. Guy says he’s never owned one. All based on intense research and graphing of released data by U.Cal. He does have some ‘science’ degrees, but he was included as a co-discoverer of the 4 planets. Pretty fucking bad-ass, and I wouldn’t doubt that there were at least some around him thinking he was wasting his time.
General Stuck
The Universe is completely big.
Misha
10-year-old Becomes Youngest to Discover Supernova
And so on.
Alex S.
Yay, exoplanets! It fascinates me how you can bridge the distances between the stars with tiny pieces of incredibly precise data. The gas giant in the habitable zone is very interesting. If, for example, Jupiter was like that we’d have 4 moons capable of sustaining life. You might have several sentient species in just one solar system.
And the picture is just magical.
General Stuck
If someone could undiscover Planet Wingnut, that would be an achievement.
Great country, where any dingbat can grow up to be president.
And I was talking about George Bush, btw.
Peggy
Wow. Can you imagine how good that Yorkshireman is at spreadsheets? Get him a job on Wall Street.
kdaug
@General Stuck: Why I’m not an atheist – we’ve got no fucking idea.
eastriver
Coolest thing I’ve seen today.
J.
That picture of the ISS passing in front of the sun is stellar.
pointer
Great stuff! I feel obliged to point out, however, that there’s a world of difference between observing phenomena and contributing to the theoretical understanding underpinning those phenomena. Astronomy is unique in that the nature of the field allows amateurs to make useful contributions. Other sciences have a far higher bar to entry — although that doesn’t stop amateurs and engineers thinking they can disprove the greenhouse effect or the entire field of evolution!
General Stuck
@kdaug:
me neither – my brain is too small to contemplate infinity. Then there are Orchids and Opera – I just dunno
JGabriel
Great, it looks just like a sunspot. Which means now I’m gonna worry that all those photos of sunspots are actually the spaceships of invading alien hordes waiting for the signal to attack us.
Well, I would if I were a Republican.
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BGinCHI
@JGabriel: If the aliens are monitoring our news, they’re probably staying away. Far away.
PurpleGirl
@BGinCHI: Oh absolutely they are staying away. They know we’re completely nuts beyond understanding and don’t want to be infected by us.
JGabriel
BGinCHI, overheard on alien spaceship:
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El Cid
@JGabriel: There is no global warming. It just snowed in Georgia. But if there were, it is caused by the aliens in the sunspots. Why doesn’t somebody get Al Gore to answer THAT!
BGinCHI
@JGabriel: “The Day the Earth Stood Still” is a pretty good allegory for Republican control of government.
Davis X. Machina
@JGabriel: Or wait around until they use them, and then get the planet cheap, as a fixer-up-er.
Caren
That’s no moon…that’s a space station!
The ISS looks like a TIE fighter in that picture.
BGinCHI
@Caren: Countdown till someone photoshops a kid pedaling a bike with an alien across it……
The Dangerman
If this is an area of interest, consider sitting through this Astrosphysics course put up by Yale:
http://academicearth.org/courses/introduction-to-astrophysics
It’s for nonscientists (or was it nonmajors?), so it’s fairly easy to understand even though it’s Yale level. In particular, he makes the math ridiculously simple (well, considering it IS astrosphysics). I haven’t finished it yet, but I’ve enjoyed each lecture (ok, the first kinda bogs down when he’s talking about policies and grades, but the rest I’ve seen are great). He has a particularly interesting take on Pluto and it’s being a planet (or not being a planet).
MikeJ
@BGinCHI: You ask, I deliver.
The Dangerman
@Caren:
Shhhhh! Lucas’s lawyers may need some work.
What’s the zit on the sun lower right? Or am I already + too many to see the obvious?
Yutsano
@The Dangerman: I was wondering that myself. Sunspot?
Redshirt
There was a similar photo taken recently showing the ISS in front of the full moon, and it’s equally spectacular.
Our reality is more miraculous than anything dreamed up in some ancient religion.
Wiesman
And this 10-year old girl is the youngest person to ever discover a supernova.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/04/kathryn-gray-supernova_n_804207.html
stuckinred
@The Dangerman: iTunesU has the Yale course plus many other Astrosphysics courses and lectures available for free.
Davis X. Machina
@The Dangerman:
Not Lucas’. They’re already rather busy.
The Dangerman
@Yutsano:
Better than my guess; I was thinking he burned a bit or two on his CCD by pointing his camera at the sun.
Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)
Oh yeah? Well I misidentified Saturn last summer.
mr. whipple
Where da football?
KG
@General Stuck: that’s not exactly high praise… in fact, isn’t that traditionally the most damning thing someone can say when asked that question?
“Is [potential] Candidate X qualified to be President?”
“Well, s/he is at least 35 years old and a natural born citizen, so yeah, I guess so?”
MikeJ
@The Dangerman: Momma always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun
KG
@The Dangerman: I’m going with either Daleks or Cybermen.
KG
@mr. whipple: I’m of a torn heart, which do I despise more: The Ohio State or the SEC?
Davis X. Machina
@The Dangerman: Five sunspots, presently. Photo here, at spaceweather.com
General Stuck
@KG:
Never said it was. And I would think a profound NO would be the most damning thing for someone to say, and that goes triple for Sarah Palin, even from other republicans – legal qualifications was not what was asked of Sanitarium – which was my point.
D. Aristophanes
Why does liberal space science have a pre-9/11 mentality?!?!
KG
@General Stuck: true, but among politicians, I can’t remember when anyone ever answered that question with “no”… for any office, really.
Redshirt
@D. Aristophanes: That’s very good. Bravo. LOL.
Here’s a great blog by Phil Plait at Discover’s surprisingly good blog site: Bad Astronomy
You can see the sun and moon ISS pictures there, but I’d recommend the post I linked to, which shows a picture of every exoplanet seen through a telescope to date (as opposed to the many, many more exoplanets that have essentially been inferred from the gravitational wobbles of their parent stars.).
JGabriel
@Davis X. Machina: Exactly. I was intentionally ambiguous as to how they would get rid of the nuclear weapons.
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Mike in NC
@BGinCHI:
RIP, Anne Francis, co-star of “Forbidden Planet”.
MikeJ
@Redshirt: The moon pic isn’t just similar, it’s by the same guy.
Redshirt
@MikeJ: Oh right; and he traveled across the world to get each shot. I forgot that cool detail!
mr. whipple
OSU strikes first.
SiubhanDuinne
How about that 10-year-old New Brunswick girl who discovered a supernova over the weekend? The youngest person evah to do so. Damn thing is 240 million fucking light years away.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/mobile/story.html?id=4053667
John - A Motley Moose
@MikeJ: That’s the point I was going to make. These photos aren’t lucky accidents. They were planned. Makes them all the more impressive to me.
MikeJ
@BGinCHI:
Huh? It’s the most blatant christian allegory ever made. Klaatu’s alias is “Carpenter”. He dies, is resurrected. People think he’s a secret Beatles side project, and therefore more popular than Jesus. It’s all right there.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: CS Lewis called. He wants his #1 Christian allegory stats returned please and thank you.
SiubhanDuinne
@Wiesman #28: Sorry, you got there long before I did. (I swear I scrolled through all posts in the thread before adding mine, but obviously not carefully enough.)
Mnemosyne
@The Dangerman:
I think those digressions by the professors are part of the charm. I’ve been listening to the highly touted Yale Civil War course and he just diverted into scolding the guy in the 12th row who was reading the newspaper instead of paying attention in class. Made me feel young again …
Old Dan and Little Ann
I finally got a guide to the stars this past summer. After watching a mindblowing meteor shower in Colorado years ago I can’t get enough of looking at the sky.
gordonsowner
I stumbled across this guy in Bill Bryson’s _A Short History of Nearly Everything_… an amateur astronomer who holds the world record for discovering supernovae with just a telescope and memorizing the positions of the expected stars that should be in every little quadrant and can pick up a small anomaly in that quadrant — savant with a lot of hard work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Evans_(astronomer)
mr. whipple
@gordonsowner:
Loved that book!
Isn’t anyone watching the game tonight?
The Dangerman
@Redshirt:
Hold it; you’re saying he traveled to a calculated spot and knew exactly when to take the picture?
(picture a Wayne’s World “I’m not worthy” series of bows here)
Studly.
stuckinred
@mr. whipple: Of course I am. Screw the hawgs.
MikeJ
@mr. whipple: Do you think Cook was out? What *do* you think about the officiating in this test? Lots of controversy.
It’s a pity we don’t have test cricket all the time.
stuckinred
@MikeJ: Test, test. . .say what???
Gozer
@J.:
I see what you did there.
Yutsano
@stuckinred: Pork and beans, sounds like dinner to me!
(No dog in this hunt, so kind of indifferent.)
stuckinred
@Yutsano: As much as I know the SEC is better than the Big Ten it will be good for the game for the Bucks to murder the Hawgs. Plus, Petrino sux.
Yutsano
@stuckinred: Oh I can be persuaded, I just don’t have a natural bias one way or the other. Can’t stand the arrogance of the SEC or OSU. So that leaves me at meh.
mr. whipple
C’mon up, football fans!
Forte
@Yutsano: I believe you meant to say that you can’t stand the arrogance of the SEC or The OSU.
foobear
The ISS photo is very impressive, but as pointed out takes a lot of planning using the tools and data coming from the professionals (eg, ephemeris websites from NASA data).
The guy who co-found the planets is completely dependent on a *lot* of work by the professionals. They’ve identified the likely candidates to study, spent hours and hours at the big telescopes (after putting in many grant and observing proposals), collected the data (not a trivial job!), and done 98% of the analysis work on the data. The light- and radial-velocity curves go out to interested folks like this guy to eyeball, looking for a specific feature (which they learn about from a training set provided by the professionals). It is very hard to write a program to reliably pick up the right signatures, but it is easy to teach people what to look for. It is cheaper to enlist a bunch of volunteer amateurs to do the work than even to pay grad students or undergrads. I don’t mean to say the guy didn’t put in a lot of time and effort, but let’s keep the accomplishment in perspective.
It is only slightly more challenging that Seti@Home (which does run automatically) and quite similar to the GalaxyZoo. Both projects are ways in which the professionals enlist the free help of people since sufficient funding is hard to come by. It has the side benefit of getting people interested.
But the very great contributions of the professionals really should be better acknowledged (both by the poster and the author of the original article).
A Humble Lurker
@JGabriel:
You know those dead birds in Arkansas? They say they died via trauma in midair. Their ships are already here. And I for one welcome are bird-killing overlords.
Redshirt
@The Dangerman: Yep. But it’s a rather straightforward calculation. The actual logistics of traveling are more daunting.
You can find out where the ISS is at any time, here: ISS Wave
And eclipses are predicted out for thousands of years from now.