I am more excited about this year’s NFL play-offs than I’ve been about any sporting event in a long time. I’m not sure why.
Who are you picking in this weekend’s games? The only interesting one tomorrow is the Jets-Colts, since the Seahawks are the worst play-off team in NFL history. Both games look pretty good for Sunday.
I’m picking Saints, Colts, Ravens, Packers.
gex
Do you think you’re looking forward to a Brett Favre free playoffs? I know I am.
arguingwithsignposts
Kain, is that you?
Steve L.
*Looks at Dougj’s new handle* “LAW FIRM!!!!”
stuckinred
The Saint’s running game is kaput.
Cat Lady
DougJ Law Firm. I kinda miss Arkon DougJ though. Good times.
Colts, Saints, KC, Packers. If the Pack gets on a roll, they worry me as a Pats fan. A little.
Southern Beale
Not that we’re in the playoffs but after all the talk about Jeff Fisher getting fired it looks like he survived and the Titans are stuck with him for a while longer.
I really don’t pay too much attention to this stuff, I’m a hockey fan, but even the Jeff Fisher/Vince Young frakas hit my radar.
burnspbesq
This is also one of the most enjoyable weekends of the international soccer calendar: the third round of the FA Cup.
Colts? It is to scoff. J-E-T-S!
Steve L.
Also, too, I’m not picking against Mike Vick. I’ve already lost $50 this year thanks to that guy.
General Stuck
Isn’t that a mutation of the Marburg Virus?
Omnes Omnibus
The only one I care about is the Pack.
Cat Lady
@burnspbesq:
Does Rex Ryan have Tourette’s in addition to a foot fetish? Does that mouth have an off position?
Svensker
@burnspbesq:
We can take ’em can’t we? Can’t we? Bit nervous, but go Jets!
stuckinred
@Cat Lady: It’s a frontal lobe thang.
Cat Lady
@stuckinred:
Maybe he needs a frontal lobotomy? I need a bottle in front of me. Also, too.
J. Michael Neal
Speaking of sports, did the big press conference in State College that geg6 promised us ever take place?
Dungheap
@Cat Lady:
Typical Pats fan. You seem pretty confident that the Pats will make it to the SB. I’d be a bit more worried about the Colts, Ravens and Stillers if I were you.
Cat Lady
@Dungheap:
The Pats beat them all already, so yeah, OK, whatever. I like their chances.
Mr. Nobody
Even more excited than when the Pats were Undefeated and lost in the Superbowl!?
RareSanity
I don’t know how to act, the last time the Falcons were the #1 seed in the playoffs, I was 6 years old. I’m giddy as a school girl.
@Steve L.:
I wouldn’t worry, Mike is beat up. He could take all those hits and keep coming back when he was younger, but now, his body isn’t bouncing back the way it used to. Once he starts hearing those footsteps, he’ll start getting anxious. I know from his time is Atlanta, and from the last few games this year, when he gets anxious, he makes mistakes.
RareSanity
DougJ, I am now convinced that if you are ever in Atlanta, you must come and hang out with me and “da fellas”.
It’ll be fun, we’ll grill some food, drink some beer, watch some football and listen to some Eric B. and Rakim.
Jeffro
CHIEFS!!!
Also, Colts, Eagles, and what’s that fourth game again?
Steve L.
@Raresanity
I would agree, but Mike is playing in the playoffs for the first time since prison. He’s also playing for a big time contract. Money and glory are enough to motivate a man to big things. I’m sure he’ll crap out soon, I’m just not sure it’ll be this weekend.
Redshirt
LAW FIRM!
I’m going to the Pats playoff game. I’m in the home end zone – I’ll be wearing the rainbow wig and holding a John 3:16 sign. Not really though, also. But I will be at the Pats playoff game! My first NFL playoff game ever, and on the ease, too. I think I’m close to getting a season ticket.
burnspbesq
@Svensker:
If the Jets can run, and limit Indy’s time with the ball, they should be OK. They are the better team this year, but they need to play like it.
Gwangung
and I’m damn proud of it!
de stijl
No dog in the hunt. I’ll just watch.
The petty Vikings fan part of me is pulling for the Seahawks a little bit just because of some residual Saints agita left over from last year.
MeDrewNotYou
@Svensker: Hehehe. Half our team is on IR and you’re still nervous? Good instinct. ;)
I’m guessing Colts by 4 tomorrow. Unfortunately that sets up an epic feud next weekend with my Steeler-fan sister. I like the Steelers, though (they’re probably my #2 team after my Colts), and unless we embarrass ourselves, being defeated by them is an honorable end to an unfortunate season.
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
I will admit that I will be quite upset if the Saints lose tomorrow, but really, after last season, any future success is lagniappe.
Redshirt
Redshirt’s picks:
NO over Seattle, easily.
Indy over Jets. NY sucks(j/k I love NY!)…
KC over Baltimore – Ravens D is over-rated, going against NE West.
GB over Philly – Vick is hurt, and is playing at 60%, and the GB D is formidable. Clay Mathews for life. Or 3-6 more years, more likely. Close game, but GB is for real, I feels. Game of the weekend.
DougJarvus Green-Ellis
@RareSanity:
Sounds good to me.
Redshirt
I’m prepared to hold a Balloon Juice sign, but I have to be convinced. I’m picturing big, bold, cartoonish letters. No one would know what it means, and I’d make up different stories everytime someone asked.
de stijl
@Brian S (formerly Incertus):
You can afford to be magnanimous. You’ve been to the Promised Land.
(Okay, maybe the petty part of me is larger than I thought.)
ed_finnerty
as a bears fan I am not sure that they should have mailed it in against the packers last week. They concern me. And it would have made the Saints trip more painful.
LikeableInMyOwnWay
Going for broke and picking the Super Bowl right now.
Steelers vs. Falcons.
You heard it here first.
Super Bowl winner: No idea.
DougJarvus Green-Ellis
@Redshirt:
Okay, we’ll start working on convincing you tomorrow.
de stijl
@Redshirt:
Go with the Tunch “Feed” poster.
RareSanity
@Steve L.:
The Green Bay defense is pretty fierce too. The fact that it is his first real season, after prison, justifies what we have been seeing the past three weeks. He hasn’t been this Mike Vick long enough. The intensity and competition has been ratcheting up, and he has been reverting to old habits and what is familiar. Holding the ball too long, “happy feet” in the pocket, interceptions and not securing the ball when he’s running. I had never seen the week 4 through week 13 Vick play before. I have seen the week 15 through week 17 Vick before.
Redshirt
@de stijl: I like that idea a lot. That’s enough convincing for me!
SFAW
You’re talking about the same Steelers that beat the Jets 17-22 a few weeks ago, right? ‘Cause they were awesome in that game.
As long as Troy Oompa-Loompa stays healthy, the Steelers are the odds-on favorite for SB XL. (If they can buy off the refs.)
RareSanity
@LikeableInMyOwnWay:
From your comment to the FSM’s ears…
Redshirt
I just checked the BJ Store and could not find a Tunch “Feed” poster. Can someone help a Pats fan out? I figure it will be perfect to cheer on Wilfork.
General Stuck
the only thing left for me with pro football is rooting against the Steelers. MLB season is less than 3 months away, when life will begin again, and the KY Wildcats, that are doing Ok.
The Reds picked up Edgar Renteria which is pretty cool. Great SS and WS MVP for Giants.
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
@efgoldman: When you go 20 years waiting for a winning season, 30 for a playoff win, and 40 for a Superbowl, then yeah, you learn to appreciate what you’ve got. Besides, the Saints won it all before the Falcons did, which makes the win sweeter than you can possibly imagine. From greatest pain comes sweetest pleasure.
The Dangerman
Saints, Jets, Ravens, Eagles quadfecta.
I’ll go a little further and say the Saints don’t cover the spread…
…and Ducks party on Monday night.
RareSanity
@Brian S (formerly Incertus):
You bastard!
I love that only Saints and Falcon fans care about the rivalry. It’s like our own private party formed during decades of sucking.
Steelers R Bradys Bitches aka 2liberal
the anti-Patriot Taliban once again raises its ugly head.
I hope both the Jets and Colts lose, with lots of injuries on both sides.
otherwise I am still irrationally exuberant about the Patriots this year.
MikeJ
The refs will trounce Seattle tomorrow, as always.
And I’ll stand by that story.
General Stuck
@efgoldman:
His lifetime stats are solid all around, and more than just helped his team win 2 WS. If not great, then pretty damn good. He will be platooning with Janish, and the Reds really need some successful vets in post season with all the young players they have. I should have said great pickup for the Reds with their needs.
Cacti
With the Saints losing their running game and the Seasquawks getting a home game, they might catch lightning in a bottle for one week and pull off the upset…
Then go on to get curb stomped in the second round.
Hard as it is to believe, the 7 wins probably make Seattle look better than they actually are.
The Dangerman
@Redshirt:
I’m thinking Green Balloons for the backup plan.
jrosen
I agree with your picks. In particular I will be cheering on the Ravens because that will put them in Foxborough against my guys, who are thirsting for revenge and ready to deal a thumpin’.
Also I hope that the Jets get their rears handed to them, if only for the pleasure of listening sports talk radio in NYC rip Rex a new one (so he has two to talk out of). Listening to the NY wisenheimers ream the Jets after the 45-3 debacle against the Pats was the most fun I’ve had listening to the news since the 2008 election.
RareSanity
@Cacti:
You are a, glass half full, kind of person, aren’t you?
But hey, I’m rooting for Seattle too. We’d love to see Hasslebeck limp into the Georgia Dome next week. Also, I wouldn’t have to deal with Saints fans deluding themselves into thinking that they had a chance.
Cacti
@Steelers R Bradys Bitches aka 2liberal:
Tom Brady – special guest of George W. Bush at the 2004 State of the Union
But Mass seems to have a thing for Republican ken dolls. Maybe he can be the governor or senator someday. “I’m Tom Brady, I drive a truck.”
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
@RareSanity: Just remember that the Falcons are basically a Garrett Hartley shank away from playing in Seattle this week instead of the Saints.
The rivalry for me dates back to Steve Effing Bartkowski and his damned Hail Mary pass when I was seven years old. Pretty much every time the Falcons play at home, I root for the earth to open up and swallow both teams whole, except when the Saints are playing there, of course. Then I just want the Falcons to be swallowed whole.
Cacti
@RareSanity:
Far from it.
But once in a while in sports, all the planets align for a team at a particular moment and they go farther than they should have.
Happened to Arizona in 2008 when the Cardinals hosted the NFC championship with a 9-7 record.
RareSanity
@Brian S (formerly Incertus):
…and if the Queen had a royal scepter, she’d be the King. Or, to quote Cletus, from the Simpsons, “Shoulda, woulda, coulda but, didn’t-na.”
I go back that far too. What makes the rivalry so great is players like Bobby Herbert and Morten Andersen, that spent their whole careers, with either the Saints or Falcons!
We still owe you guys big time for the Hurricane Katrina MNF game. Of course, we welcomed New Orleanians with open arms during the disaster, because we’re like family and that’s what family does. But, this is football, and dammit, you gotta pay for that game!
RareSanity
@Cacti:
You’re right. Matt Hasselbeck, Mike Williams and Ben Obomanu, are just as good as Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Bolden.
I’m sorry…couldn’t resist…
hitchhiker
Be kind to us Seattleites, eh?
Our baseball team was an embarrassment; our favorite broadcaster of Mariner games just died without seeing his favorite team get to a world series; our basketball team left town; we’ve got a hell of a women’s basketball team but not enough people care; we’re goofy for soccer; it’s totally pouring pitchforks and hammer handles outside right now; our skiers have to deal with Cascade cement instead of powder . . . and yeah, our football team is gonna play the mighty Saints tomorrow afternoon while the whole world of NFL fans shrugs its shoulders and looks forward to next week.
Can’t we just have one night to fantasize? :)
Brian S (formerly Incertus)
@RareSanity: My daughter was living in Bay St Louis during Katrina and she and her mom stayed with friends in Atlanta during the storm, so there’s some reciprocation. Think of the post-Katrina game as payback for Deion Sanders in the playoffs during those Bobby Hebert and the Dome Patrol years. And if the earth does open up and swallow the Georgia Dome whole–because I don’t want the whole city to go down, just the team–I’ll make room for y’all wherever I am at the time. You can even keep the Hawks and Braves and Thrashers. It’s just the Falcons who have to go.
MikeJ
I will point out that pre-season, the Vegas line on the SheHawks was 65-1. They are now 100-1.
RareSanity
@Brian S (formerly Incertus):
Oh man…I forgot about those days…Prime Time loved playing the Saints and Bobby Hebert is just an awesome dude.
sdstarr
Four things about the SEA vs NO Game:
One, the weather is beyond miserable in Seattle right now. I don’t think that’s enough, but it’s something. It may actually backfire on SEA, as Hasselbeck doesn’t do well in the rain (oddly.)
Two, if the Seahawks win tomorrow there will be such wailing and gnashing of teeth through all the sports books of the land as you will never hear again. Wouldn’t that be just a little funny?
Three, there are NO Saints fans in town AT ALL. See thing One.
Four, the Huskies beat Nebraska, so people are kinda delusional here right now.
DW
I’d give the Patriots the best shot at the Superbowl, but there’s such a random factor that I sure wouldn’t give them even money.
By the way, Rush Limbaugh attacked the Patriots as socialist after they were introduced as a team in the 2002 (2001 season) Superbowl. Because football is such an individualistic game.
I think the Jets could give the Colts a nasty surprise. The Colts basically rode Manning’s GOP loving shoulders this season. They look like they finished strong but if you look closely, their last four opponents were the Jaguars, the Raiders and the declining Titans twice. Not exactly a Murderer’s Row. Of course then if the Jets win they get to play New England in the snow as God intended. Next weekend will be proper AFC games – none of the wussy dome nonsense. Football in hopefully miserable, bitter cold weather as God intended and victory to those who trained accordingly!
Oh, one last reason to hate the Colts – Gregg Easterbrook likes them.
J. Michael Neal
@General Stuck: The first key number about Edgar Renteria is that he’s 35. Shortstops age better than second basemen, but not that well. He’s already a serious liability on defense.
The second key number is that he hasn’t even been an average hitter in any season since he left Atlanta in 2007, even if you only compare him to other shortstops. At 35, there’s no reason to expect him to get better.
He’s below average both offensively and defensively. The difference between him and Janish played every day is minimal. He can’t platoon with Janish, because they’re both right-handed hitters.
The Reds best option at shortstop is Zach Cozart. He’s not a good option, mind you, but he’s a bit better than either Renteria or Janish, and you’d get to pay him $2.5 million less than you’re paying Edgar.
J. Michael Neal
@sdstarr:
No, it won’t. Sports books work on the principle of setting the odds/line such that they make money no matter what happens. They’re just middlemen between the gamblers, taking a cut to let them play. Occasionally they screw up a line and get burned, but not often.
Comrade Kevin
@J. Michael Neal: The sports books themselves work that way, yes, but the customers are another story.
General Stuck
@J. Michael Neal:
It’s been announced by the team that in fact they will be platooning, and the guy has a lifetime batting average of 287 with 2200 hits, and two gold gloves. He is above average and 35 is not over the hill yet. He is a good selection imo, and obviously the Reds as well, at least for a season. if for no other reason than he is a seasoned veteran on a very young team, with a proven record of doing well in post season play, especially the WS.
The Dangerman
@J. Michael Neal:
True; there are anomalies for gamblers, though. I’ve heard that during their 80’s heyday, so much San Francisco money was going to the books in Reno for the Niners that there was an edge to putting money on the other team. YMMV, of course, especially on a single game as opposed to a longterm trend.
Andy K
I’m liking the Packer’s chances to get to the Super Bowl, with one caveat: We don’t have to travel to New Orleans for the championship game. As good as our defense can be, I just don’t think we can run with the Saints on the Superdome’s carpet. But winning on the road in Philly, Atlanta and Chicago? Doable. Very doable.
Andy K
@RareSanity:
Some of us recall the Cajun Cannon’s stewardship of the Michigan Panthers to the first USFL championship.
And, uh….Anthony Carter, John L. Williams, John Corker, Novo Bojovic and Jim Stanley FTW!
J. Michael Neal
@General Stuck:
They can announce whatever they want, but that’s not a platoon. It just means that you have two right handed shortstops.
So what? The fact that he hit .330 in 2003 is basically worthless in predicting what he’s going to do next year. A fast and dirty way to do projections is called Marcel the Monkey, because of just how simple it is. All you do is take a weighted average of a players last three seasons. This is a surprisingly effective system, and is basically the baseline for what any advanced forecasting system needs to beat.
Over the last three years, Renteria’s batting averages are .270, .250 and .276. The last gets weighted more heavily because it’s the most recent, but gives that back because it’s in only half the plate appearances as the other two. And there’s no way you can weight those three numbers and get a projection anywhere close to .287.
Of course, batting average isn’t a particularly useful measure of a player’s value. On-base percentage and slugging percentage are a lot more important. (Yes, batting average is an important component of both, but the addition of other things improves the value a lot.) His OBPs the last three years have been .317, .307 and .332. Only the last is anywhere close to league average. His slugging is even less impressive: .382/.328/.374.
You can go to OPS+, which is OBP + Slg, normalized for park effects such that 100 is the average for all hitters. Renteria’s for the last three years: 83, 67 and 90. The last is the average for all shortstops. In other words, the best that Renteria has been in the last three years is an average offensive shortstop. The other two, he’s been significantly worse, and was truly abysmal in 2009. Given his age, there’s no reason to think he’ll be even average.
The most recent of which was 2003. Again, that doesn’t tell us anything. He’s become a lot worse since then. (This is even setting aside the problem that the Gold Glove voters don’t have a good track record on actually identifying the best defenders.)
He was above average.
For most baseball players, it is very definitely over the hill. As a group, baseball players peak somewhere between the ages of 27-29. After that age, the best prediction for every single player is that they are in decline. There will be exceptions, and certain kinds of players lose less value each year on average. The exceptions are just about impossible to predict, so the best assumption is that a 35-year old shortstop is going to be worse this year than he was last year.
The Reds aren’t a particularly young team. Their likely starting lineup is just over 29-years old. The only particularly young individual there is Jay Bruce, and it will be his fourth full season in the majors.
His post season career consists of a total of 272 plate appearances. That’s a small sample size even before remembering that all but 37 of those PAs were more than five years ago, and thus not much good for predicting.
Oh, his career postseason hitting line is .252/.327/.339, so it’s a good thing for the Reds that it has little prediction value. He’s been terrible in the post season once you include the times he’s been bad as well as the times he’s been good.
I’m tempted to think that you’re just pulling a TZ and being cantankerous just to get a reaction out of someone. If so, you win. I fell for it. But if you’re serious, you’re also very wrong.
gwangung
@General Stuck: Ah, Stuck….working with Stone Age tools….
His bat MIGHT be OK; a .333 OBP is OK, but the slugging of .370 is a bit light, and age IS going to sap that. And 35 IS over the hill for an infielder…you’re gambling his fielding (which is what you want him for) isn’t going to dive over the cliff. It’s OK now, but at 35….
EDIT: Nahhh. I take that back. Looking at Wins Above Replacement, he’s poking along at 1.4, 0.3, 1.3, where average is 2.0 each year. Definitely below average.
Yutsano
@gwangung: Damn youse and your crafty sabremetrics alchemy. My brother swears by the stuff, even when it backfires on him mightily. I just say let the boys play and the results speak for themselves.
Oh and there were a ton of Seahack jerseys at work today. Teh enthusiasm, it is interesting.
gwangung
@Yutsano: Ah, but EVERY method is going to backfire on you, eventually. No ifs, ands or buts.
What you want to do is to find the method that will backfire on you, oh, say, six out of ten tries, as opposed to seven or eight out of ten.
dylan
For everyone that considers the Seahawks the, “worst team in playoff history”, consider this: they must lose their opener to claim that title.
As well, the Ravens and their undeserved brashness, will be eating crabcakes next weekend. Jan. 15-16, that is.
d. b. cooper
All’s I know is the Pack will lose to the Iggles, the Falcons will be in the Superbowl, and Peter King is a maroon.
Yutsano
@d. b. cooper:
Well one out of three ain’t bad…
@gwangung: It just seems like overanalysis of what, at heart, is a game. Yes I know it’s a business and serious money and blah blah blah, but sports are supposed to be enjoyed. Watch a player out there loving what s/he does. It’s phenomenal.
de stijl
I’m a nerd, but whenever I see this SABRmetrics type stuff, the Ogre part of my brain just wants to scream “NERDS!”
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsano: I’m with you. I watch the game for fun. I really don’t care about all the numbers and shit. How you be? Get your voice back?
@gex: AW HELL YEAH!
I think NO over Seahawks, Colts over the Jets, GB over Philly, and Baltimore over KC. I have no reason for these picks.
Batocchio
I’m thinking Saints, Colts, Ravens, Packers. I’d be surprised if the Saints game isn’t a blowout, but the others might be tight.
Yutsano
@asiangrrlMN: If I talk very very quietly I have a voice. I push for any modulation beyond pianissimo and nada. Which feels rather oddish. Or as my friend Kit likes to say (yes he likes British lads why do you ask?) oddsfish.
BTW really, truth be told, I want the Seachickens to lose. Which means they probably won’t. Although if Matty gets knocked out on the first play who knows?
Yutsano
And if stuckinred is grumpy lately, it is not without reason. Poor puppeh.
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsano: You’re sti/88888888888888888 <== Raven saying hi. You're still up. Don't strain yourself too much, you hear? I have no skin in any game this weekend, which will make watching said games relaxing.
@Batocchio: You just copied me! (Kidding, of course).
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsano: Aw, poor Uga. Hope he completely recovers.
stuckinred
@asiangrrlMN: And he’s the new one.
General Stuck
@J. Michael Neal:
You need to get your head fixed. Pulled a Tz? I made an idle comment about a baseball trade for my team the Reds, and you go into a mclaren grade opus of dissent why the guy is worse than Hitler, and I must be some kind bigtime wrong about the color of the universe, or something. The only thing you fell for are maybe voices in your head telling you to make a federal case out of nothing important, for no apparent reason other than to try and pick a fight and be an argumentative asshole. Okay, you win. The Reds fucked up and Renteria is the pits and will probably cause them to lose every motherfucking game next year. But guess what, I still approve of the trade, cause I’m a fucking idiot. Feel better now nostradamus? geesh
General Stuck
@gwangung:
Look, Walt Jockety is one of the best GM’s ever, and is picking up Renteria for the reason many teams pick experienced players near the end of their careers. To provide some leadership and especially post season experience for a go at winning it all the next season.
I already stated I should have said a great pick for the Reds from my original comment, for their particular needs. And they are a young team for a team that before last season had had nearly a decade of dismal losing.
This is done all the time, and I think it is a good move for the intangibles of leadership by now having a solid veteran who has experienced a WS’s win. Sosume.
Anonymous At Work
I’m going to go with Saints, Colts, Ravens and Eagles. No way to I try to go against Sean Payton, Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, and Mike Vick
Svensker
@MeDrewNotYou:
Peyton is the smartest QB out there, just a frightening brain. He figured out our defense last year and shut us down right before the half — in a game we were winning handily. Course, if he’s playing injured again there shouldn’t be a problem, but it seems like whatever was bothering his throwing arm a few weeks ago has been dealt with.
I just want somebody to be able to beat the New England Demons.
danimal
The Chargers are the team no one wants to play this postseason. They obliged.
Jets, Saints, Ravens and Iggles.
BTW: Saints over Pats for the whole enchilada in Dallas.
LikeableInMyOwnWay
@General Stuck:
Hey, hey. You guys are in way over your head. There is only one person who knows how to “pull a TZ” and neither of you is him or her. What’s more, the TZ pull is purposeful, and neither of you could possibly understand the backstory.
Now behave yourselves.
Be careful. If you elminate that sort of thing, you have just wiped out 80% of the blog world’s traffic.
LikeableInMyOwnWay
@RareSanity:
NoodleBoy? Hell yeah, he was over for breakfast.
It’s an easy pick. I hate New England and all of my karma voodo fu energy is aimed at defeating them in this playoff cycle.
It’s all about justice, my friends. Stay thirsty.
This year, the Steelers are the most entertaining contender for me. I want my entertainment, put them in The Game.
Steelers R Bradys Bitches aka 2liberal
@LikeableInMyOwnWay:
see my display name for my thoughts on this topic.
LikeableInMyOwnWay
@Steelers R Bradys Bitches aka 2liberal:
Yeah, your thoughts on this topic are what I came here for.
sully
How you like them Hawks Apples… Now is your opportunity apologize for your earlier statement against the Hawks. You have obviously never been to Qwest Field. You’ve probably never even played the game. Just punching keys and regurgitating what you saw on ESPN.
You’re 0-2 after Saturday’s games. Nice job hotshot!