Been a couple days, so I wanted to check in and see if there were any problems with the new site design.
I know several of you have had the IE bug in which text scrolls across the entire page, and to be honest, we have no idea what the hell is causing it. If any of you do, I am all ears.
Steeplejack
I’ll see if I can find the link, but I think there was a comment a day or so ago that said (I’m paraphrasing very loosely) that there was an uninstantiated variable in the CSS style sheet for I.E. that was causing the problem.
AnotherBruce
It only happens on IE, not firefox.
I have the feeling you already know this.
MikeJ
Seems slow today.
I’ve heard said that the ie problem is either with a particular ad or with the change.org box. No idea which, if either, is true, but something for the webmistress to look at when debugging.
freelancer
Running the site on IE8 (work computer, can’t install alternate browser), getting this issue, but right now, the site is running like David Akers kicked it in the balls.
Morbo
It’s not a problem, but it is an issue that makes me laugh…
The rotating title and the rotating tagline do not match.
So the title as it read in the browser says: “Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity.”
While the tagline on the webpage says: “I showered with Rahm and all I got was this shitty blog.”
It’s fun!
Chat Noir
No problems with Firefox on my end. And I think the new design is keen! The only issue I have is that I haven’t seen a Tunch or Lily or Rosie picture in awhile.
B
Post a screen shot of the problem along with the browser version.
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: I might be mistaken, but I think someone else said that if you refreshed the CSS ended up being parsed correctly.
But someone else, 2 days ago, I think, literally included the code to resolve the IE issue in their comment.
And at least 2 people included details of what you could do to easily resolve the problem of having to click on the phrases in order to get to the front page. One included code, I think, and the other described an alternative (also easy) way to resolve that problem.
geg6
The only issue I am having is when I want to comment on my iPhone, I have to type in my email address every.single.time.
It’s driving me crazy and I have no idea what to do.
Rosalita
Like the new site design. Love that I can now read it on my BB as well. And yes, I ran into the IE problem this afternoon. Switched over to Chrome.
licensed to kill time
If the date/time/link field was right-justified it would give some separation from commenter’s names and make the ‘link’ a bit easier to click on.
Bring back the old elegant comment numbers!
Can the (very) faint dotted lines between comments be darkened a bit?
eta: Comment box is too damn small!
Nutella
Since the changes Cleek’s pie filter doesn’t work any more. If I have time this week I’ll see if I can figure out how to fix it.
djheru
The IE developer toolbar can be handy in trying to figure those things out: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=95e06cbe-4940-4218-b75d-b8856fced535
daveNYC
The left and right borders with the blogads and whatnot in them are moved to the bottom of the page, and then the text in the center sprawls out to fill the space. It’s awesome. I also had the same thing a lot prior to the redesign, so it’s not like this is a dealbreaker for me.
WaterGirl
There are some features/changes that multiple people have asked for, or do you just want us to identify existing PROBLEMS at this point?
Mark S.
Site’s been very slow for me today.
This is rich. Hindrocket makes the obvious point that Sarah has no chance in a general election, and Colonel Mustard haz a sad.
This is what it sounds like
When doves cry
schrodinger's cat
The site is taking forever to load, since the last hour or so.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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Day 8
On day eight of my humble quest to honor President Obama’s heartfelt and inspiring call to action – “to live up to the example that young Christina Green expected in how our democracy should function” – I hereby declare that cutting Social Security benefits is off the table. I can say that now, out loud and proud, because that is what I truly believe as a Democrat and as a fierce moral force in this world. You heard me right, fat cat Republicans – not on my watch, sirs!
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General Stuck
No problems except page loading very slow today. Don’t know why.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
The new Republican governor of Alabama is a clueless Christianist nutter who just god-bombed about half his state, and alienated every non-evangelical group that might have wanted to spend some money there.
Oh wait, that’s not a bug.
licensed to kill time
Site slowed down considerably in the last hour or so, I presume because y’all are tinkering under the hood? I hope so, anyway.
Cam
I had the scrolling problem yesterday using IE, but resolved it by using the “Compatibility view” setting (under Tools). Today, it’s running fine either way.
SiubhanDuinne
John, I posted a big multi-point rant a couple of days ago about numerous issues that have cropped up for me on the BlackBerry. Can’t send to you now but tomorrow I will e-mail that post to you and mistermix. Thanks. SD
Trinity
Slow for me too.
WaterGirl
@licensed to kill time: You just saved me from listing the same 4 things!
cleek
@Nutella:
when’s the last time you updated it?
WaterGirl
@Nutella: Cleek has an updated pie filter that works with the new system, just go to his website and get it. :-)
Edit: cleek, i see you beat me to it. didn’t know you were here.
protected static
I posted a couple of issues last night in the old thread, dunno if they were seen or not… https://balloon-juice.com and https://balloon-juice.com do not display the same way. If I don’t use ‘www’, the most recent post does not display. This is true on both my laptop (Win XPSP3 w/ Firefox 3.6) and my iPhone (3GS running iOS 4.2.1).
On my iPhone, ‘www’ loads the mobile site, while leaving it off loads the regular site.
The Dangerman
Using FF with a Flash Blocker; site’s loading fine for me.
Punchy
This blog comes slower than Ron Jeremy nailing a fat chick. And lately, the money shot is ED Kain, which is the blog equiv of a guy-on-guy golden shower.
Fixkthxbai
Jennifer
I’ve got the IE issue right now. Can’t read most of the comments because they are overlaid with the ads on both right and left. Before the upgrade, only the right margin would blow out; with the redesign it’s moving the stuff from the left sidebar over the posts & comments, too.
What’s weirdest about the whole IE/margins thing is how inconsistent it is; sometimes the page loads properly and sometimes it doesn’t and won’t despite repeated page refreshes. Dunno what the dealio is.
Steeplejack
Here is the comment from HeartlandLiberal that I remembered, although it seems to be about the opposite thing–a problem in Firefox vs. a problem in Internet Explorer. But it may provide a clue for troubleshooting.
Maude alleges that this will fix the problem.
And Cris alleges that this will allow people to click anywhere on the Balloon Juice banner to get back to the home page.
Google is scaring me. I did an advanced search on “css style sheets” on Balloon Juice only to find these links, and it had already tagged and banded this thread and pulled it up as one of the results. Whoa.
cbear
The IE problem was quite prevalent, although intermittent, last year and now it’s back with a vengeance. It’s not just the extended text and jumbled view—it’s also excruciatingly S-L-O-W.
I know those 57% of us that use IE are plebians, but PLEEEEEEEASE fix this shit.
Thank you.
Mark S.
I’ll say something positive for a change: I like how below the comment box it tells you if there’s a new post up.
trollhattan
These guys have a different sort of line management issue:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/teen-thieves-snorted-cremated-remains
kdaug
Second the right-justified date/time stamp, or bolded poster names.
Short of that, smooth as silk.
Allan
First of all, thanks for asking, John, and for acknowledging the problem persists.
The IE text failing to wrap issue confounds any efforts I can find to isolate why it does or does not occur. The site can be loading normally until I open a comment thread, or it can be fine until I comment, or not, or when I return to the home page. Clearing the cache and simple page refreshes are intermittently successful, but just as likely to resolve nothing.
WaterGirl pointed me previously to a commenter who said if you put certain of the ad domains in your “restricted sites” zone in IE, the page would load normally. I tried that, but it did not resolve the issue.
Ironically, and maybe this is helpful, the only thing I have done that has consistently allowed the site to load properly is to put balloon-juice.com ITSELF on my “restricted sites” list. If I do that, however, two things happen that impact usability of the site. First, embedded videos won’t load, and second, the add-on that gives us HTML tools in the comments box is lost.
So that’s not an ideal solution, and not something that most users of IE are going to be willing to do in order to simply read your site.
Today, in particular, the site seems slow, and the .gifs of the banner and its background are the last things to load. But you’ve gotten a lot of linkies today to the If Sarah Were Black conversations, which might be causing traffic to spike.
And I know that I have posted it before, and been told by much more tech-savvy BJers is unrelated, but IE does produce the following “error on page” message which points a finger at the change.org petition scroller.
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; GTB6.6; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; HPNTDF; .NET4.0C; MSSDMC2.5.2219.1)
Timestamp: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:45:05 UTC
Message: Object expected
Line: 375
Char: 13
Code: 0
URI: http://www.change.org/widgets/content/petition_scroller_js?width=150&causes=all&color=1A3563&partner=174-35
dave
I am seeing it scroll across the screen in Chrome.
Firefox and IE look fine.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Yes, it is.
I see the bug causing Uncle Clarence Thomas’s posts to have dots before and after is still there.
Steeplejack
@licensed to kill time:
Amen. I would love the “Link” button to be flush right, as I habitually use it to pull the current comment up to the top of the page as I’m reading through the thread.
MagicPanda
This is a nitpick, but I find the spacing to be odd.
1) The title of the top blog post needs to be separated from the top gray bar. The title of the top blog post should align with the words “Premium Blog Ads” and “Contact”
2) The gray bar separating comments should have the same amount of whitespace above and below the line. Right now, there is too little space above the line.
3) The content within the sidebars looks too ragged. The titles should be moved to the left so that (for example) the word “Categories” has the same left edge as the menu below that label.
4) The “Switch to our mobil site” link on the left needs more space on its left.
Like I said, it’s all nit-picky.
cleek
@WaterGirl:
actually… it looks like they’ve changed the HTML again. and now the filter is, again, dead.
licensed to kill time
@WaterGirl: It’s an issue! We must be heard!
B
1) The categories drop down box to the right is way too large. Truncate the options.
2) Learn responsive design.
3) Learn box models for typekit, gecko, opera, and trident.
4) Use em’s for line-height.
5) Put javascript at end of page rather then the head.
6) You mentioned a few days ago that there’s no way to make the header clickable while still having the rotating blurb. If that’s what your developer told you then I would suggest you find somebody that doesn’t do this as a hobby.
joeyess
I hate to break it to you, John, but that IE bug has been going on a lot longer than the site rebuild. I use a mac at home and have never experienced it then, but when I load BJ on a pc or laptop I usually experience the IE deal. I refresh a couple of times and it goes away. On a PC or laptop, sometimes the “compatibility view” pops up on it’s own, sometimes it doesn’t. That’s probably a hardware problem on my end, but the fact remains that the IE wide scroll has been a site problem for a while now.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: A couple of things i recall from the rant were no comment numbers (though I see them on my iPhone) and that it’s maddening to type in the email address each time.
I can only see part of the comment numbers, though, as soon as you get into double digits that include fatter numbers like 3 and 8, and it gets really bad when you get into the triple digits.
Roger Moore
@licensed to kill time:
Megadittoes!
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
Found and submitted.
WaterGirl
@licensed to kill time: Attica! Attica! (was that from Dog Day Afternoon?)
TooManyJens
@Morbo: It’s two taglines for the price of one!
Redshift
In Chrome, I’m constantly having to do a full refresh. Half the time when I load the site, or after I post a comment, I get the tag line and some of the text on the left, and the rest is blank until I refresh. The other half of the time it’s fine.
I sometimes see the top banner appear before everything goes blank. Since it’s intermittent, I’m guessing that something with some of the ads is making Chrome unhappy, but I don’t know for sure.
WaterGirl
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): You make me laugh out loud every time you write this. I take it you are not a fan?
Steeplejack
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
I think that’s an instance of what we call PEBKAC*.
* Problem exists between keyboard and chair.
Allan
@joeyess: This has also been my experience. I didn’t complain about it because I held out hope that it would go away with the rebuild, but I’ve been using a variety of coping strategies to deal with the site for quite some time now, including reading posts on my Droid where they load properly, and only returning to the PC when I wanted to comment on a thread.
I wouldn’t go through these gyrations for most websites, but John is special.
cleek
@cleek:
and now it’s working again. a whole bunch of HTML changes came and went in the last 4 minutes.
i guess the lesson here is that the pie filter might be broken (or maybe not! who knows?!) at least until JC stops asking for site suggestions.
Violet
@licensed to kill time:
Seconded. Too small and text within it is also small.
Would prefer if commenter’s names were bolder or larger or something so they didn’t blend in with the comments.
Not a fan of the font. I find it harder to read than the previous one.
Links are a lighter blue than they used to be and are again harder to read than before.
Quicksand
I like the mobile version. But does it have — I haven’t found it if it does — something like the “Reply” button on the full site that auto-enters a linkback to a previous commenter?
licensed to kill time
@Roger Moore: I feel like I’m typing in an Altoids box.
@WaterGirl: Attica! was. The sentences I typed just came from me, unless I am channeling some dim memory :)
Catsy
Can you either get rid of the Share/Save social networking crap at the bottom of each post, or give it a half-second hover delay before it pops up? Anytime my mouse happens to cross over the event horizon of that content on its way to something else, it pops up and blocks most of the links at the bottom of the post for a few seconds before going away, and there is no “X” or “close” button on it (though you can dismiss it by clicking somewhere else on the page).
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Belafon: I take your point. I should have made clear that the cluelessness, Christianism, and god-bombing were not indicative of a bug. Losing money (if that happens), of course, would be.
And speaking of IE problems (like many others, I’m stuck with it at work), I don’t have any of the HTML tools for commenting and the Reply link doesn’t work for me. This was true before the rebuild as well. It may well be something I have set incorrectly – I’d welcome suggestions on how to fix it.
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: Hey, we used to use that one in our office, too! I didn’t know it was that widespread. I wonder tone of voice is universal, too?
redactor
Running in compatibility node usually (thought not always) fixes the problem of text not wrapping.
I’m using IE9 (beta), and I’m just glad that BJ no longer crashes my browser on contact.
Roger Moore
@licensed to kill time:
At least with the FF4beta, I can resize any text box. It’s a great feature, one that every browser should have.
TooManyJens
Why the fuck am I sitting here listening to House Republicans lie about health care?
the Reverend boy
I am totally loving the mobile site with one exception. The share/post to FB thingy is a bit sensitive. Move the cursor even close to it and the pop-up window comes up. This only happens on the front page viewing the multiple posts, not when you are looking at the individual posts themselves.
I like it better than the GOS mobile site actually.
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
They made me quit using it because my tone of voice would cause a nosebleed to anyone within 1.5 cubes’ distance of mine.
Redshift
@Roger Moore: Cool! I hadn’t realized that.
Steeplejack
@TooManyJens:
Because you care too much, damn it.
Church Lady
I’m trying to read on Chrome and everything runs together. The comments are now very difficult to read since everything is single spaced, and there is no break between each comment. Ugh. Bring back the old format.
Tsulagi
Yeah, it looks hosed using IE8. Holding Shift while clicking on the refresh button cleared it up. Temporarily. Closed IE then opened it to this site and the mess returned.
But then I don’t use IE so no problems for me. Our IT dept. intelligently makes Firefox our default.
Church Lady
Strange-I submitted the comment and then the entire format changed. Comments are now spaced the way they used to be and everything in the right margin now appears. I don’t know why submitting a comment fixed it, but it did. Yay!
Sirkowski
The scrolling bug is gone in Opera.
geg6
@Quicksand:
What I’ve found on my iPhone is that if the commenter’s name has a line underneath, you can click it and the reply button pops up. Then when you go into the make a comment section, you’ll see that you are replying. A bit of work, but it works. However, if there is no line underneath the name, there is no way to do it.
@Catsy:
I would second this.
geg6
@Church Lady:
Refresh your cache. That changed it back into something readable for me.
Edited to add: Making a comment must have done the same thing automatically. I see the problem is solved.
dave
scrolling bug looks to be gone for me in Chrome. Nice!
burnspbesq
Not having any issues with the site on any of my devices.
However, since this is an open thread, I will take this opportunity to say …
J-E-T-S.
licensed to kill time
@Roger Moore: I’ll look forward to that when Firefox 4 comes out in ‘alpha’ mode. I am leery of anything beta (let others discover the bugs!).
I believe Martin said you can re-size the text box in Safari and Chrome(?) but I only have FF and Opera. So I’m stuck w/the Altoids box. And yes, the type font in the comment box is too damn small, too! And old-fashioned!
Cheryl from Maryland
I zoomed up the font in Firefox so at least I can read the text now, but the font is cheap looking and so pixilated the letters vibrate.
There is not enough white space between lines and difference in scale between the commentator’s name and remarks in the former format was easier to read. The justification of all text to the left makes the comments difficult to read.
Scout211
Can you darken the thread titles a wee bit? My old eyes are not seeing the font all that well.
Love the mobile site. Looks great and works great on the iPhone.
srv
Like a lot of right wing blogs during the Bush years, BJ pays little or no attention to Afghanistan. Y’all should at least keep current with the recent successes of the Obama strategery.
Simply glorious.
geg6
Since this is an open thread, I would like to recommend some very good, very quick reading from someone who has been known to show up in BJ threads every now and again:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/02/wolcott-201102
B
@licensed to kill time: Alpha testing happens before Beta testing. After beta comes the stable release.
Also, the reason the comment box is so messed up for you is that it’s not styled. It’s like web design circa 1998.
tBone
Not a bug, but the comments section needs some polish. Commenter’s names should be bolded, and there’s too much white space below the dotted rule separating comments.
Also, needs more cowbell.
licensed to kill time
@B: Oops. Showed off my non-geekitudinousness there. Ahem! I’ll wait for FF4: The Stable Release.
srv
@geg6: I’m really thinking Willow and Justin Beiber hooking up would be a Palin craptacular. Sarah could win over that whole crowd and they could indoctrinate the kids at Disney Alaska.
*what we really need is a Disney version of Atlas Shrugged.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@WaterGirl: I see no point in it, but – and probably sadly – the right side of my brain gets a kick out of the left side of my brain making that joke.
Quicksand
@geg6:
Ah, nice tip! Actually, if there’s any link at all in a comment, clicking on it will cause the reply button to show up. It appears on a “mouseover” event, so you have to fool the system into thinking there’s a mouse pointer within the comment you want, and tapping on a link will do that.
As you say, this works. And if you tap on the “Link” button next to each comment, it seems to work every time. At least it does for me, today.
I’m on iPhone also.
Loneoak
@geg6:
Seconded. Typing in email address in iPhone is proving to be a pain.
General Stuck
Well, for now, the site is quick as can be. I am comforted in the knowledge that WP BJ Gremlins still LIVE!!
Joshua Norton
I ordered a pizza over an hour ago! Where the hell is it?
geg6
@srv:
LOL! Although I’m thinking Bieber is not stupid enough to fall for a Palin.
And for everyone’s enjoyment, from James Fallows, some commentary about the Obama/Hu presser this afternoon:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/language-screwup-at-the-hu-obama-presser-maybe-not/69802/
Heh, indeedy.
suzanne
On the mobile site (I’m using an iPhone), the name of the blog is much smaller than the names of the posts, and I’m not sure if that’s intentional. The names of the posts seem almost comically large.
Also on the mobile site, you have to put in your e-mail address every time you want to comment, which seems silly. And the post numbers get cut off on the left.
The regular site seems to be working well for me, though I do miss the large post numbers to the left of the post. Made it much easier to scroll through them quickly. Other than that, all seems to be well here.
SIA
I have no problems viewing/commenting on a laptop, in Chrome, FF, or IE. Not doing so well with my Blackberry, which is a new upgrade, and I’d only had a couple days when the site was redone.
On my mobile:
1) Can’t view comment numbers if there two digits, ie, number 17 looks like number 7.
2) Can’t hit reply arrow to reply to another comment(though the first day I was able to do so). If I open the person’s comment in another link, it just goes to the top of the post, no comments showing.
3) When I hit refresh in the comments, it closes out the comments and takes me back to the post title.
4) The text is small; if I enlarge it enough to read, the text column becomes too wide.
5) Have to enter email every time I comment.
6) To view the comments, I have to click twice before comments can be viewed. No big deal, but wasn’t like that before.
I didn’t have any problems reading on my (smaller)previous Blackberry before the site re-design, except that before I couldn’t even see the reply arrow. So yeah, for me it’s a problem as at least 75% of my reading is on the BB.
On the laptops, looks clean and crisp. On the mobile, not so good.
Nellcote
I don’t know if this means anything but anyway:
Using IE8 tools>developer tools>scripps>debugging there’s a highlighted error on line 375 that reads “func()” rather than “function()”
Also a line that reads:
LOG: ad#30984399:856293350
Object expected flash petition widget is?width=150&causes=all&color=1A3563&partner=174-35,line 375 character 13
rdalin
I was just about to comment on the spacing, but then it fixed! Yay! It looks great now (I use chrome on osx).
Nellcote
@geg6:
yeah, that’s the kind of funny that makes me want to have a beer with our Prez.
Nutella
@cleek:
Not recently enough, I see. Pie filter works perfectly now. Thanks, Cleek!
Warren Terra
A minor bug: for some reason, when I load the main Balloon Juice page (in Chrome, in Windows) the number of comments indicated for each post is often wrong – apparently reflecting some point in the past.
I also have sometimes been refused permission to edit my own comments.
@tBone
Indeed.
Nellcote
@srv:
With LaPalin doing voiceovers?
fordpowers
I have this weird thing – where it looks beautiful in firefox on my home computer (intel based mac – primarily use firefox3.6) but then at work – on an intel based mac – using firefox3.6 – there isn’t any dilineation between posts…? Like all the comments and blog posts merge together and all the stuff like blog roll and ads are at the bottom of the page.
So IDK. But it looks jacked. I wish i could attach a screen cap..
Steeplejack
@fordpowers:
Try refreshing your cache. That seems to work for other people. Can’t remember the keystroke combo on the Mac. It’s Ctrl-F5 in Windows. Cmd-F5 on the Mac?
Maude
If in IE the text is running to the right outside of the lines, I did write the code or whatever in a comment. I found it and it is for IE. Some fixes are for IE 5 and IE6.
Try it and see if it helps.
I forget the post title, but it is a site maint. one. I can go find it.
Sasha
How can I have several paragraphs in a single blockquote? It annoys me to have to constantly break them up.
Steeplejack
@Maude:
Your code tagged and banded above.
Steeplejack
@Sasha:
Short version: put two underscores on the blank line between each paragraph.
Long version:
(h/t Monkeyboy © 2009)
David Brooks (not that one)
I’ve said this before, but:
1. The line-wrapping bug exists in IE8 and IE9 (latest beta), with or without compatibility mode.
2. Control-F5 refresh is not the solution. It is as likely to produce a bad page as the initial load is.
3. DIGBY USED TO HAVE THE PROBLEM BUT APPARENTLY NOT NOW. I haven’t seen it over there for a while. Other observations: Digby also has blogads in the left margin, and I think she used to host change.org but doesn’t any more. So why not shoot her an email asking if she knows how she fixed it? Did she wrap blogads in a fix, is it true that she used to host change.org, or is this a red herring?
mgloraine
I copied the page source and css files to my desktop and tinkered a bit. When I add ” width: 75%; ” to the #content section of ie.css (as it is specified in the style.css) the problem clears. There may be more to it than that, but it worked in my “lab”.
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: I caught my typo too late, thanks for fixing it! I think using PEBKAC is a perfectly harmless way to let off a bit of steam without the client/customer/user having any idea. That’s a good thing!
HyperIon
I am using Firefox and the comments appear in a numbered list that has no white space between successive comments. For me this makes them pretty much unreadable.
Moreover, the blogroll is on the left waaay at the bottom.
Is this happening to anyone else? I mean, it’s ugly. Why?
Also carriage returns do not produce white space. I hit return 3 times after typing the previous sentence.
gogol's wife
@Violet:
Co-sign.
HyperIon
OK, I just refreshed the page and now things look more normal. (Multiple carriage returns produce only one line of white space.) But at least it’s not the dense text as previously. WTF?
Maude
@HyperIon:
Don’t know if you tried this:
Ctrl + F5
WaterGirl
@HyperIon: Try refreshing your cache, that seems to fix it. Ctrl-F5 on lots of browsers, not sure on yours.
HyperIon
Wow, that cleansing re-load is a miracle. Now the blogroll is back on the right.
DougJ suggested a couple of days ago that I do a page reload so I reloaded the site instead of clicking on the Reload Current Page. Big difference. But hard to understand. Shouldn’t loading the site accomplish the same thing as a page reload?
Maude
@Steeplejack:
I sent an email to John with a bunch of web page fixes for IE.
I don’t know enough to narrow down the search.
That other one is for the text going out the right side of the page.
Maude
@HyperIon:
It’s a browser refresh, Ctrl + F5, it refreshes the cache and stops your browser from trying to load the old style. So, you get the new style.
No one of Importance
Hi, regular lurker here.
I am a developer specialising in WP installs and customisation. I have a PC for testing purposes running IE8 on a small netbook with Windows 7 and I get the overrunning text error on that alone – everything’s fine on a mac running Snow Leopard.
My first check would be the width settings on the sidebar-left, side-bar-right and content divs. The side-bars are set at 19%, the content (the centre part) is set at 75% – which of course comes to more than 100%. The side-bar right and content divs are wrapped in content-wrapper which is 79% width. In my experience, IE is pickier about that kind of thing, and tends to be pissy about using percentage widths anyway. I suggest your developer tries making the sidebar widths a fixed number of pixels, and perhaps sets your content a fixed width or small percentage to see if it fixes it on IE.
I am happy to be contacted privately if you want further advice. Like I said, I do this stuff for a living, but I’m happy to help for free here because I spend so many hours on the site, free of charge :)
No one of Importance
Oops, must have mentioned a banned word. I just made a comment offering advice on the site CSS. Maybe someone could release it from the mod queue?
Comrade Nikolita
Just commenting to say that I get the error too, but I don’t know what’s causing it. I didn’t read all the other posts, so my apologies if I’m posting this after it’s been solved already.
Platonicspoof
This is my first test of comment functions since the site rebuild.
My browser uses IE8 (IE Build 8.0.6001.18), OS is XP SP2, I normally disable ‘Run ActiveX Controls and Plugins’ in Properties to speed up loading and I’m not using Compatibility View. Previously, I’ve enabled ActiveX controls to get the edit function.
I have not needed to clear the cache, comment or reload the site to fix appearance problems in the past week. The site has not been loading slowly for me at the particular times I’ve stopped by.
Although I had the problem with the comments text running over into and overlapping the right hand column last year, I haven’t had it happen to me even once since then. The fix for me several months ago was putting an ad that was identified by another commenter as a problem in the restricted sites. In the past year other commenters have pointed out that problems are a combination of causes such as browser, ads, device, WP, etc.
At the moment the page appearance is a great improvement to me, mostly because the greater width of the middle column makes the post and comment sentences longer and therefore easier to read. Ads are in the left column and the blogroll, etc., are in the right column as before the rebuild.
So, all in all, thanks for the redesign!
And edit test . . .
Platonicspoof
Couple more tests:
@No one of Importance:
At least on this site, WP is paranoid about your country’s spelling of words like “speciaIising” because CiaIis (I’ve replaced ‘l’ with capital ‘i’) is the name of a spam word.
Edit: Second test.
iLarynx
Comment on new site comments:
The robo-de-spaminator needs a major attitude adjustment. It’s labeling innocuous stuff as spam and not allowing any editing to try to correct it.
Ija
@Platonicspoof:
Socialist is a spam word?
Ija
@iLarynx:
Oh my god, it is really true, soc*al*st is a spam word, I was just put into moderation for an earlier comment. What kind of fucked up universe is this? How can the S word be a spam word? Is capitalist a spam word? This is outrageous. Can we complain to WordPress?
Ija
Socialism
Ija
This is a test: communism
Ija
This is a test: communist
Ija
This is a test: Maoist, Trotskyist, Leninist, Stalinist
Ija
This is a test: Democratic Socialist
Ija
Maybe that Freddie de Boer guy who was whining about how there are no true leftists in the blogosphere is right after all. How can there be when you can’t even use the S word without tripping up the spam filter. What is the reasoning behind this? Too many soc*al*sts in the past sending out missives trying to recruit people, hence classifying it as spam? I’m the idiot for not knowing this before.
Ija
Okay, so apparently I’m double the idiot. It’s not the S word, but the third through eighth letter of the word which is a brand name for something bad. But surely, surely WordPress can tweak the software to detect when THERE ARE OTHER LETTERS BEFORE AND AFTER THAT BAD LETTERS? To the computer programmers here, please advise, is this something that is impossible to do?
de stijl
@Ija:
Soshulist gets automoderated by WP because it contains the text string that is also the name of a boner pill – starts with “cia***”.
Said boner pill gets spammed a lot into comments, so WP puts your comment into moderation.
Ija
@de stijl:
Heh, we posted at exactly the same time. But thanks anyway :)
Ija
If I am someone who is conspiracy-minded I might be tempted to suspect that the manufacturer of said drug deliberately picked the name to make it harder to discuss an ideology that is opposed to capitalism. I’m not, so I’ll say this instead: FYWP. The idiocy is astounding. Do they have incompetent programmers or something? Can’t they design a software that can differentiate between empty spaces and other letters around that word?
Ija
You know what would be great? If someone would name a sexually-enhancing drug Libertar or Ibertarian and spam it to hell. For a start, that would make this blog so much better.
Paul in KY
@Jennifer: Same thing here. When the text is scrolling off right side of page it’s actually worse than it was pre-redesign. All ads overlay the text.
When it’s not doing that, it’s great!
Generally 70% of time it’s messed up (for me), other 30% works like a champ.
fasteddie
Looks awful in IE ( which I am forced to use at work). Looks fine in google reader via rss, though, which is how I really read blogs.