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Wholly Outsourced Snark

by Tom Levenson|  January 30, 20119:45 pm| 98 Comments

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This letter to today’s Times nailed it, IMHO.  Mr Samuel Reifler of Rhinebeck, N.Y. (one of my favorite town names, for some reason) writes:

The bizarre behavior of Gil Meche, who gave up $12 million because he “felt bad” about taking money he had not earned, is a slap in the face to those toilers in the finance industry who courageously set aside their moral scruples and accept multimillion-dollar bonuses in the face of an economic crisis of their own making. It is to be hoped that Meche, in light of the example of those whose Ivy League degrees attest to a deeper understanding of this sort of moral and ethical quandary, will change his mind.

To which I can only add, in the spirit of this song, that there is some Balloon Juice in everybody.  (Michael J. Fox excepted, as always.)

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Image: Margret Hofheinz-Döring, The Miser, 1926.

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  1. 1.

    RossInDetroit

    January 30, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Mojo Nixon! Thanks for the flashback.

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    I lurve that painting. It’s like Liechtenstein on an acid trip. With actual humans.

    And Gil Meche certainly didn’t earn that cash. Trust me. Any team willing to shell out that much dough for a mediocre pitcher deserves derision and scorn.

  3. 3.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Tom, that’s an amazing painting. Shamefully, I’ve never even heard of the artist. As for Meche, I admire him for doing the right thing. He owned up to the fact that he did not earn his monies and quit. I think Mr. Snarky Pants is the letter got it backwards (yes, I know that was the point). I wish the fat cats on Wall Street would take a tip from Gil Meche.

    @Yutsano: Hi, hon. How you be? More importantly, how Princess Lexie be?

  4. 4.

    TaMara (BHF)

    January 30, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    This entire post if full of win. Thanks for this Tom.

    Hi Yutsano! Hi asianfrrlMN! I’m thinking Yutsano owes me a recipe….not that I’m expecting one, but I think I was promised one. I could be wrong, but I so seldom am. /snark

  5. 5.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    @Yutsano: @asiangrrlMN: Yup, that painting really caught my eye – and I hadn’t seen the artist before either.

    Sometimes you just find stuff that works.

  6. 6.

    Batocchio

    January 30, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Great letter.

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Her Royal Highness is a quivering pile of purring fur right in front of me. And pork enchiladas are almost done.

    Otherwise I’m sweet. I’m still thinking that the car will get bought some time in the spring unless something favorable happens in the interim.

    @TaMara (BHF): Hehehe. Well what I did tonight so far seems rather successful (especially the sauce, SERIOUS nom) so I’ll try to re-trace my steps and drop you an e-mail later tonight. Don’t want to do that for sure until the final results get sampled. Which is about now!

  8. 8.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 30, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Yep. Wearing my Balloon Juice jeans today.

  9. 9.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    @RossInDetroit:
    Ah, Mojo Nixon. The very best concert I ever saw, hands down, was the Pleasure Barons. A rocking riot from start to finish. They had a bar on stage and imbibed liberally throughout the show. If they weren’t featured on a song, they were drinking. They were on fire all night. That’s what rock ‘n roll is all about.

    Led by the late, great, Country Dick Montana and featuring the Reverend Mojo Nixon and the incomparable Dave Alvin, the Pleasure Barons laid waste to rock and roll convention. Call it cow punk, psycho-billy, or pure mayhem, this CD is a monument to what makes rock great. It will never happen again.
    __
    The greatest supergroup never to be seen again. Perfect mix of drunken pyschos doing fantastic music that would make the clowns at The Rock and Roll Hall of Lame quake in their booties.

    RIP Country Dick Montana.

  10. 10.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Aw, I love it when they purr up a storm. Shadow is in his favorite spot–on my legs.

    @TaMara (BHF): How come you didn’t ask ME for a recipe? /hahahah I don’t cook.

    @Tom Levenson: So, you just Google whatever you’re looking for and use your fave example? Cool.

    ETA: WikiCommons–even better. I use them all the time for open source images.

    Andy K., do I even want to know what that means?

  11. 11.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 30, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Listen to the song that Tom linked.

    Elvis is in your jeans…He’s in your cheeseburgers…

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    First work of Hofheinz-Doring I have ever seen. I clicked through and looked at some of her other pieces. Me like.

  13. 13.

    RossInDetroit

    January 30, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Some Mojo Nixon Dirt. This does not surprise me at all.

    A supporter of the Libertarian Party, he has a degree in political science and history from Miami University in Ohio. He was also the honorary captain of the United States luge team at the 1998 Winter Olympics.[3]
    He is a member of the Church of the SubGenius.[4]

  14. 14.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: It varies. Sometimes I know exactly what’s going with the post…sometimes I travel through a search tree until something clicks.

  15. 15.

    JGabriel

    January 30, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Samuel Reifler:

    The bizarre behavior of Gil Meche, who gave up $12 million because he “felt bad” about taking money he had not earned, is a slap in the face to those toilers in the finance industry who courageously set aside their moral scruples and accept multimillion-dollar bonuses in the face of an economic crisis of their own making.

    That is A Grade snark, no doubt. But what’s really surprising is that the NYT published it. LTE’s usually have a high earnestness quotient at the Times.

    .

  16. 16.

    TaMara (BHF)

    January 30, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: It’s that time of year when I’m in need of inspiration, so I’d ask you. You must have some go to meals you cook for yourself.

    Anyone else want to share some favorite recipes for me to post over at W4D? email: whats4dinnersolutions (at) live (dot) com

  17. 17.

    RossInDetroit

    January 30, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    @Violet:

    They had a bar on stage and imbibed liberally throughout the show. If they weren’t featured on a song, they were drinking.

    Every person I know who saw that tour has told me that story like they were relating an alien abduction or a vision of the Blessed Virgin.
    Truly epic Rock and Roll comes along too rarely and must be celebrated.

  18. 18.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @JGabriel: In the print edition it was on the Sports section letters page. My guess is snark slides down easier over there.

  19. 19.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @TaMara (BHF): OH YEAH. This is definitely edible! Recipe coming forthwith!

  20. 20.

    jeffreyw

    January 30, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Mmm…artsy fartsy food foto

  21. 21.

    RossInDetroit

    January 30, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Oh, and Mojo has a Stimulus Plan of his own:

    Can’t wait for Washington to fix the economy. We must take bold action now. If I make the new album free and my entire catalog free it will stimulate the economy. It might even over-stimulate the economy. History has shown than when people listen to my music, money tends to flow to bartenders, race tracks, late night greasy spoons, bail bondsman, go kart tracks, tractor pulls, football games, peep shows and several black market vices. My music causes itches that it usually takes some money to scratch.[6]

  22. 22.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): I know this song! I’ve heard it before. My explanation for Balloon Juice jeans was much more interesting, though. At least in my head.

    @TaMara (BHF): No, I seriously do not cook at all. The most I do is throw together a burrito-like thing with roast chicken as the meat. I use spelt tortillas and almond-based cheese (the only really good fake cheese I’ve found). Other than that, I have really good co-ops near me that make really tasty food.

    I am trying to start expanding my repertoire, but I hate cooking for one.

    @jeffreyw: You should send that into TaMara. Oh wait….

  23. 23.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 30, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    So, Tom…Does this mean that McMegan is pregnant with Cole’s two-headed love child?

  24. 24.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @Violet: Country Dick Montana quote (from King of the Hobos):

    “First we gotta go sell these hubcups and invest the money in cheese wiz and MD 20-20.”

    Now that’s poetry. ;)

  25. 25.

    Mike in NC

    January 30, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    They do a great old time airshow in Rhinebeck; was there about 20 years ago.

    http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/

  26. 26.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Not going there. Brain bleach now.

  27. 27.

    gnomedad

    January 30, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):
    “Balloon Juice jeans” — is that like a “birthday suit”?

  28. 28.

    RossInDetroit

    January 30, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    I think Balloon Juice Jeans are the ones with cat hair on the seat.

  29. 29.

    TaMara (BHF)

    January 30, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: If you ever want cooking for one tips, I’m your girl. Been doing it for quite sometime now, gotten pretty good at quantities and storage ideas.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Once

    January 30, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    @Violet: I’ll give you Mojo Nixon, although I’ve never seen them live – but have you seen Gogol Bordello live? I just want to follow them around the world as they perform. Can’t get enough of ’em. Don’t bother youtubing them – nothing comes close to seeing them up close.

    Great, great snark, Tom. I do have to give the Times credit, though – they actually published one of mine in which I discussed the possibility of having Frank Rich’s baby. In retrospect, I think it would have been better if they had quashed that particular mash letter.

  31. 31.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    @Tom Levenson: Don’t bogart the brain bleach, man.

    @TaMara (BHF): Excellent. I will check out your blog. It has to be easy and not labor-intensive as I am very lazy.

  32. 32.

    PIGL

    January 30, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: cookin’ for one, eatin’ for two, drinkin’ for three. My downfall.

    “Perhaps Joni Mitchell said it best:” “the frying pan’s too wide.”.

  33. 33.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @RossInDetroit:
    It was simply the most amazing concert I’ve ever seen. I have tried to describe it to people. It’s just not possible. Once in a lifetime.

    @Tom Levenson:
    I met Country Dick Montana once. We went to a concert of his. Another totally crazy experience. Before or after the show (can’t remember now) we were outside getting some fresh air and there he was, having a drink. We all hung out for awhile. He was a nice guy. Such a deep, deep voice.

  34. 34.

    goatchowder

    January 30, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    My favorite outsourced snark ever, so far, was from (where else?) a Wonkette post, to wit:

    You know what? If you want 50 billion dollars, you get up off your couch and go out there and start a huge corporation that exploits millions of helpless poor people and destroys the environment. Then hire a bunch of lobbyists and contribute shitloads of money to elected officials to make sure you get all kinds of tax breaks and deregulations that help you further exploit and destroy in order to make even more money.

    And when you’ve done all that hard work and you have your 50 billion dollars, and some liberal communist comes along and wants to raise your taxes from 35% ro 37% so some whiny ass kid can have a school lunch and a grant to go to college, you see how YOU feel. Then we’ll talk.

    Interestingly, same topic too.

  35. 35.

    goatchowder

    January 30, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Arrgh, FYWP

    You know what? If you want 50 billion dollars, you get up off your couch and go out there and start a huge corporation that exploits millions of helpless poor people and destroys the environment. Then hire a bunch of lobbyists and contribute shitloads of money to elected officials to make sure you get all kinds of tax breaks and deregulations that help you further exploit and destroy in order to make even more money. And when you’ve done all that hard work and you have your 50 billion dollars, and some liberal communist comes along and wants to raise your taxes from 35% ro 37% so some whiny ass kid can have a school lunch and a grant to go to college, you see how YOU feel. Then we’ll talk.

  36. 36.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @PIGL: Oh, I can totally sympathize on the ‘cooking for one, eating for two’ bit. Sigh.

  37. 37.

    freelancer

    January 30, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    This is High Art of snark. Most aren’t going to get it. A couple years back, I tried to explain “The Onion” to my mother.

    “Is this a real thing?”
    “No. No, Mom, it’s fake news!”
    [Her head explodes] “FAKE news?!”
    “Yes, written to point out how ridiculous the style and content of actual news and culture actually are. Satire.”
    “But, but, but…why would anyone spend their time reading, let alone writing news that’s not really news?”
    “Because it’s edifying. Because it’s funny.”
    “I guess.”

    My Mom is the first and only person in her immediate family to earn a college degree. She’s a brilliant person, but is very much tone deaf to certain aspects of the 21st century/literary tropes.

  38. 38.

    Jim, Once

    January 30, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    @Violet:
    Sorry, Vi. I’m fuzzy tonight – too many cold pills. Didn’t catch the Pleasure Barons reference. Thanks so much for that – will definitely check them out.

  39. 39.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    @Jim, Once:
    I wish you could have seen them live. Sadly, never again. RIP Country Dick Montana.

    I’ve never heard of Gogol Bordello, but I’m intrigued by the name alone.

  40. 40.

    Tom Levenson

    January 30, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    @Violet: Gogol Bordello is great stuff, and the tip of the iceberg of some very bizarre twists and turns in rock and roll as it makes its way through post apocalyptic ex-cold war conflict states.

    My bud, Wayne Marshall (@wayneandwax on twitter, wayneandwax.com for more substance) is my guide to a lot of it. Fun stuff.

    @Violet: My best story like that came through a bizarre chance encounter with Vincent Price. I’ll save that for some later post…but it’s a good one. Country Dick’s voice should be in the Smithsonian.

  41. 41.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    @TaMara (BHF): Psst. You. Yeah you. Check inbox please. And give it a test run before publishing as the amounts are pretty much guesses. I never measure and I never write anything down. There is a reason why I didn’t go for The Next Food Network Star besides my face for radio.

  42. 42.

    hamletta

    January 30, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    I was once a dancin’ girl for Mojo. I dragged my girlfriend up on stage behind Mojo when he asked for dancin’ girls.

    He didn’t see us, but he asked the audience if we were wearin’ black brassieres.

    My fellow dancin’ girl was shot in the Mumbai terrorist attacks a couple of years ago. A few weeks ago, we heard that she walks!

    Elvis truly is everywhere.

  43. 43.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    @Yutsano: You have a totally cute face. And, you would be awesome. Kinda like the anti-Guy Fratboyface.

    @hamletta: This story is all kinds of amazing.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Once

    January 30, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    @Violet: Re – GB: I saw them first at the Austin City Limits festival last October. My niece said they were a must see, so I went just so I could tell her I did. Oh.My.God. As I stood in line to see them again in Madison, WI, the guy behind me made gentle fun of the little old lady getting up close to see them. Later, he and I were dancing madly in the aisle.

  45. 45.

    freelancer

    January 30, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Yuts, what’s going on?

  46. 46.

    Jim, Once

    January 30, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    @hamletta: What a story!
    @Tom Levenson: Thanks for the wayneandwax ref!

  47. 47.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    @freelancer: Cooking fake Mexican food and ducking housework that really should be done tonight for now. I did go to the store today and stare at a Portuguese wine debating if I should get it. I probably will next time I go.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    @Tom Levenson: @Jim, Once: I’m gonna have to check them out. They sound crazy fun.

    @Tom Levenson:

    Country Dick’s voice should be in the Smithsonian.

    It should. One of a kind and so memorable.

  49. 49.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    @hamletta:
    Wow, now that’s a story. Good to hear that about your friend. Elvis is everywhere.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    @Tom Levenson:There is always Zdob Si Zdub. Moldovan/Romanian traditional music and hip-hop. Sort of an Eastern European version of Black 47.

  51. 51.

    freelancer

    January 30, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Cooking fake Mexican food

    The only thing to worry about is whether your meat is actually meat. Then it’s never “fake” Mexican. If a Deist Jew stir-fries noodles, beef, onions, snap peas, water chestnuts in a Wok with Chili, Sesame, and Wok oils, does that mean he’s making “fake” Chinese food?

  52. 52.

    tim serbo

    January 30, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: tell me about almond cheese, o timeless houri. oh, god, i’m being so good with my low-fat, hi-veg diet, but i do linger longingly at my market’s cheese counter.

  53. 53.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s actually…kinda cool. Modern European punks still proud of at least some parts of the native culture. Schweet.

  54. 54.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    @freelancer: Yes. And, apparently, TacoHell’s beef is roughly thirty percent beef and seventy percent ground dog shit.

    @tim serbo: I don’t know how ‘good’ it is for you, but it’s very tasty. I am lactose-intolerant, and this is the only brand I’ve tasted that I would actually eat on (non-wheat) crackers. The Jalapeno Jack Style is my favorite.

    P.S. I love the word houri. ::swoons::

  55. 55.

    Origuy

    January 30, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That is amazing.

  56. 56.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    @Yutsano:
    @Origuy:

    I am told that they are awesome live.

  57. 57.

    Jim, Once

    January 30, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow. Great fun.

  58. 58.

    suzanne

    January 30, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    In my quest to lose the last five or so pounds of my baby weight, I am being very good about healthy eating. Which I love, but I will cop to a sweet tooth, and I like treats. Anyone got any healthy dessert suggestions?

    The baby is so cute that I don’t even mind when she covers me in barf. Okay, I don’t mind MUCH.

  59. 59.

    freelancer

    January 30, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Yes. And, apparently, TacoHell’s beef is roughly thirty percent beef and seventy percent ground dog shit.

    I heard it was soy, and that cracked me up.

    I’m sorry that America learned today that you learned you actually like the taste of soy products. I know how traumatic that can be. I’ve seen small children, greedily eating a food they claimed to dislike but that has been served to them in disguise, only to be told what it was, which required spitting it out and saying, “Gross!” We, as a nation, are this small child, or at least that’s how it seems from the breathless coverage this scandal has been given in the news. We can’t see ourselves as people who eat soy. It’s gross. No matter how much we like it.

    This is especially amusing when I recall the rare occassions when my friend Adam’s wife, Tomoka, who is Japanese, has cooked a Korean Kimchi soup with Tofu, and I had no objections, in fact it was spicy and yummy. That said, when I’m not around them, I NEVER eat tofu or sushi. My palette is prejudiced, what can I say?

  60. 60.

    suzanne

    January 30, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Oh, any my husband and I played some Gogol Bordello at our wedding. So rad.

  61. 61.

    tim serbo

    January 30, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: nature has endowed me with a large…lexicon. heh-heh.

    thanks for the cheez tip. looks like the sodium is a tad on the high side, but i can probably get away with a few shavings now and again. anent your lactose intolerance, my condolences. going through life without ice cream isn’t quite as bad as going through life without a sense of humor, but still…

  62. 62.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    @suzanne:

    Anyone got any healthy dessert suggestions?

    Does fruit work for you? It’s a pretty healthy dessert. Doesn’t work for me. Dark chocolate does though. In small doses it’s considered “healthy.”

    You could try the dessert from the South Beach Diet book: half a cup of low fat ricotta cheese mixed with a packet of Splenda and a flavor of your choice, like half a teaspoon of vanilla extract or a quarter teaspoon of almond extract and a few slivered almonds, etc. Mix cocoa powder into it for a chocolate version. I’m not sure it’s healthy but it’s not horrible for you. If you don’t like fake sweetener, try adding just enough sugar to taste.

  63. 63.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    January 30, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    @Tom Levenson:

    Nice painting…

    Brought to mind this one, by Whistler…

  64. 64.

    Violet

    January 30, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    @freelancer:
    The whole Taco Bell meat being soy really ticks me off. I avoid soy. It doesn’t agree with me and it’s bad for people with thyroid problems (like me). It’s okay in moderation when eaten in more traditional or whole forms, like tofu, tempeh or edamame. It’s much less good in forms like soy milk or as some sort of “soy meat product.” Soy is also high on the list of common food allergies. I know people who have very bad reactions to soy.

    Taco Bell should have been honest from the beginning. If they want to use it, fine. But tell people what’s in it so their customers can make educated decisions when deciding what to eat.

  65. 65.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    @freelancer: Yeah, I thought it was funny that people were eating soy and loving it. You really can fool people if you just don’t tell them what’s in a dish.

    @suzanne: Healthy? How about fruit with a dollop of whipped cream (the real stuff)? Otherwise, I would tell you to have a smaller portion of your favorite dessert. And, these cones (first product) are amazingly good (no dairy), but I doubt they are THAT good for you.

  66. 66.

    freelancer

    January 30, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Yeah, I thought it was funny that people were eating soy and loving it. You really can fool people if you just don’t tell them what’s in a dish.

    Uh yes. See also No Child Left Behind and the Clear Skies Initiative.

  67. 67.

    Yutsano

    January 30, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @Violet: Another good healthy sweetener to use is honey. Not only is it natural and easy to digest, it also has antioxidants in it as well, so it’s not just pure glucose like sugar is. Plus I admit I have a big weakness for dark chocolate sweetened with honey.

  68. 68.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 30, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    @freelancer: Thanks, Debbie Downer. Too true, though. Sigh.

    And, FYWP. Why you et my comment to tim serbo?

    @tim serbo: I like a man with a large lexicon! Anent is another favorite word of mine. As is defenestration, exsanguination, deliquesce, and ablution. Check out the link I gave to suzanne for some really tasty tofu-based ice cream cones. I just need to find a version with no wheat as well. Sigh.

    FYWP, twice, in the right eye (in advance in case you eat my comment again).

  69. 69.

    suzanne

    January 30, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    @Violet: I do fruit a lot, and I like it, but it’s a bit less inspiring in the winter, yanno? I want berries and peaches. Dark chocolate is delicious, but I can’t eat as much as I want without it no longer being healthy, so I’m trying to find alternatives.

  70. 70.

    suzanne

    January 31, 2011 at 12:07 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Tofutti is pretty good, for sure. I get the “ice cream” sandwiches from time to time. I’m just kind of hoping for some recipes. A friend of mine who’s doing a raw diet gave me a recipe for pseudo-ice cream made from frozen bananas, and I’m gonna give that a whirl.

  71. 71.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 12:16 am

    @suzanne: Recipes? Bwahahahahahaha! Sorry. The thought of me having a recipe to give is amusing. Hunt down TaMara or jeffreyw. They may be able to help you.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2011 at 12:18 am

    @suzanne: Strawberries topped with some sour cream and brown sugar.

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    freelancer

    January 31, 2011 at 12:22 am

    @suzanne:

    Tofutti Break!

  74. 74.

    Violet

    January 31, 2011 at 12:29 am

    @asiangrrlMN:
    You’ve tried Purely Decadent coconut milk ice cream, right? It’s dairy free and there are a lot of gluten-free flavors as well. It’s fabulous. It’s high fat (coconut milk), but supposedly coconut fat is good for you, so I try not to focus on the fat content. They’re made with agave, so low on the glycemic scale. My local Whole Foods carries them and even Kroger does now.

  75. 75.

    Wag

    January 31, 2011 at 12:34 am

    I wonder if the Rep from GA that Bill Mayer destroyed the other night believes in Elvis-lution?

  76. 76.

    Violet

    January 31, 2011 at 12:34 am

    @suzanne:

    I want berries and peaches.

    Do you cook? It’s easy to make a fairly health cobbler/crumble. Get some frozen fruit. You can use peaches and/or berries for this to get your fix. Toss it in a baking dish.

    For the topping mix together butter (you can use just a little, but more makes a better topping), oats, brown sugar, and a little flour to hold it together. You can add nuts and spices like cinnamon to the topping if you want. Use just enough butter to get it to hold together.

    Sprinkle the topping on the frozen fruit, bake at 375 until bubbly and topping is brown. Eat and enjoy. You can add ice cream or cream if you like, but those obviously add calories.

    This time of year a cobbler or crumble is excellent. Warm, hearty and the fruit makes it pretty healthy. It really is easy to make.

  77. 77.

    suzanne

    January 31, 2011 at 12:40 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s a summer favorite of mine— it’s a knockoff Strawberries Romanoff. (The real thing is great, too, ’cause alcohol is involved.) I just need more winter options in my repertoire. I have an ice cream maker I’ve never used (wedding gift)—I wonder if I could make sorbet or gelato with it?

  78. 78.

    suzanne

    January 31, 2011 at 12:44 am

    @Violet: That is a fabulous idea. I’m gonna try it tomorrow. Maybe with apples… the kid loves ’em.

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    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 12:52 am

    @Violet: Yes. I do not like the coconut milk version. It overpowers the taste, IMHO. The Peanut Butter ZigZag is my favorite flavor.

  80. 80.

    Violet

    January 31, 2011 at 12:57 am

    @asiangrrlMN:
    That’s funny, I feel the same way about soy. I’m not supposed to have much soy (doctor’s orders) but it also upsets my stomach and I feel it has a very strong flavor. I love coconut so the coconut version works for me.

  81. 81.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 12:59 am

    @Violet: SPLITTER! Heh. Soy is very soothing to me, but perhaps that’s because I’m Asian and grew up with it.

  82. 82.

    piratedan

    January 31, 2011 at 1:07 am

    @Violet: alas, once upon a time, I WAS a HAPPY BOY! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J40rLaARx00)

    or another Beat Farmers favorite… Gun Sale at the Church!

  83. 83.

    Violet

    January 31, 2011 at 1:09 am

    @asiangrrlMN:
    I grew up eating mostly vegan, so had plenty of tofu and tempeh. I like those, and I also like edamame. I don’t like the Americanized versions of soy. Soymilk ice cream seems so wrong to me. And I end up with a tummy ache.

  84. 84.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 1:11 am

    @Violet: Ah. I get what you’re saying. I agree with you for the most part. I like soy ice cream. I have tried rice ice cream and other substitutes. Ugh.

    To each her own–whatever makes your stomach happy, I say.

    And, we’re supposed to get 3 – 5 inches of snow which makes me a little happy.

  85. 85.

    Violet

    January 31, 2011 at 1:12 am

    @piratedan:
    Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba!

  86. 86.

    piratedan

    January 31, 2011 at 1:15 am

    @Violet: I loved Country Dick Montana and the rest of the lads were pretty much alright too….I think it’s time to go play Viking Lullabyes again…..

  87. 87.

    J. Michael Neal

    January 31, 2011 at 1:15 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    As for Meche, I admire him for doing the right thing. He owned up to the fact that he did not earn his monies and quit.

    I gotts say, bullshit. The Royals got a gift that they don’t deserve. The reason Gil Meche can’t fulfill his end of the contract and pitch 32 games for Kansas City is because his shoulder exploded three years ago when he tried to do that. He was permanently injured in the course of performing his job.

    When a baseball team signs a player to a long term contract, both parties are taking a risk. The player is taking the risk that something is going to go horribly wrong with his body that subjects him to multiple surgeries and a lifetime of pain. The team is taking the risk that something is going to go horribly wrong with the player’s body and he won’t be able to perform.

    If the team doesn’t want to take that risk, there is a very simple alternative for them: don’t ever sign a player to a long term contract. If they don’t, then they will never be on the hook for another season with no performance. Of course, the player also will not be on the hook to play for that team again if his performance improves and he can get a new contract for more money with someone else.

    Of course, that approach has different risks. Such is life. Figure out which ones to take. The NFL alternative of saying that contracts tie players to teams but not vice versa is one that I find morally repellent. Guaranteed years should mean guaranteed money.

    None of this is meant as criticism of Meche. If he decides that he doesn’t want to require the Royals to pay him everything, more power to him. Even if all he wants is not to have to go through more rehab in the hopes of pitching again, which the Royals are entitled to require him to do in order to get paid is fine. That’s all his decision. But it would be no less the right thing to do for him to insist that the Royals live up to the contract that they willingly entered into in order to secure his services.

  88. 88.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 1:24 am

    @J. Michael Neal: I can see your point; I disagree. He did the right thing because he’s not worth the money. (And, I’m positing for the sake of argument that any athlete is worth that kind of money). I am not talking from a legal point of view–I agree that the contract is what it is and that once offered, it should be paid. I’m talking about from a personal standpoint.

  89. 89.

    Elvis is everywhere

    January 31, 2011 at 1:36 am

    @Violet: If this works, I will always and forever be “Elvis is everywhere”!

    I am broadening my horizons, i.e., joining BJ.

    Go Pack!

  90. 90.

    Yutsano

    January 31, 2011 at 1:38 am

    @asiangrrlMN: You’ll takes yer snow and ye’lls likes it ya heah?

    (I have no idea what that accent was.)

    And tonight Lexie is halcyon kitteh. And purring by my chest as I type. I think I should stone her more often.

  91. 91.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 1:58 am

    @Yutsano: I love snow. I just want more of it. Directly in my yard so no one else is affected. Awwww, did you ‘nip Lexie? Sweet!

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    January 31, 2011 at 2:01 am

    @suzanne:
    A fruit smoothy is pretty good.
    banana, yogurt, honey, soy or almond milk if you can’t do dairy, frozen blueberries, some ice if you like it real cold. If you want healthy at the same time add in flax seed meal. I used to grind my own using a coffee mill.

  93. 93.

    Yutsano

    January 31, 2011 at 2:13 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Yup. She was drugged up wild thang for a few hours and now she’s crashed. She’s passed out on the bed in a place where I can curl up to and not bug her.

    @Ruckus:

    If you want healthy at the same time add in flax seed meal.

    You had me until there. We HATES flaxseed oil. Hates hates hates it. Like FH #1 hates sheepses hates. I can always taste it and it always tastes like pure ass to me. Plus blueberries are little bombs of nutrition. So that’ll do.

  94. 94.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 2:22 am

    @Yutsano: Nothing better than a blissed-out cat. And, I take it you don’t like flaxseed oil very much?

    I’m outie. I’m exhausted.

  95. 95.

    Yutsano

    January 31, 2011 at 2:25 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Now whatever could have possibly given you the impression that I don’t like flaxseed oil?

    :: dons angel halo ::

    Actually according to the Dawg I can’t wear halos any more. I had to give them up when I became ebil gubmint worker.

  96. 96.

    Jay in Oregon

    January 31, 2011 at 8:19 am

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    Holy crap, I had no idea that Winona Ryder played Debbie Gibson in that video.

    Thanks for the blast from the past.

  97. 97.

    Bill Murray

    January 31, 2011 at 11:35 am

    @asiangrrlMN: it is very likely that the club has insurance to cover player’s salaries when lost to injury. By his not taking or giving back the money, the team ends up getting paid twice.

  98. 98.

    asiangrrlMN

    January 31, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    @Bill Murray: Really? OK, that I don’t like.

    @Yutsano: Like you could wear one, anyway. ::snort::

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