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You are here: Home / Politics / Glibertarianism / Ok, I just Watched That Stupid Damned Trailer

Ok, I just Watched That Stupid Damned Trailer

by John Cole|  February 11, 20118:32 pm| 149 Comments

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And I think it is all coming together now. The reason the glibertarians and right-wingers all hate any high-speed rail proposals from Obama and Democrats is because Dagny Taggart is supposed to be making our new rail.

Right? No? Shit. I give up.

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    February 11, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Don’t try to spend to much time trying to figure out the glibs…
    HOW’S ROSIE

  2. 2.

    quaint irene

    February 11, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Forget the trailer. How’s Rosie?

  3. 3.

    Tom

    February 11, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    The sad thing is, you may be right.

  4. 4.

    gbear

    February 11, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Either that, or their empathy with train wrecks.

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 11, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Trailer-schmailer. How is Rosie?

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 11, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Trailer-schmailer. How is Rosie?

  7. 7.

    John Cole

    February 11, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Rosie is fine. Just needs some drops is all.

  8. 8.

    MobiusKlein

    February 11, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    You know what? Right below the post was an ad for Justin Beiber, and I clicked it by mistake. Couldn’t be any worse than being Galt-rolled.

  9. 9.

    JPL

    February 11, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    John, If you really want to expand your knowledge, listen to Beck connect the dots tonight. It’s the google..that’s all I’m going to write.

  10. 10.

    JPL

    February 11, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    @John Cole: hahaha..that is all..hahaha…good luck with that.

  11. 11.

    jeffreyw

    February 11, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Fuckin robins. How do they work?

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 11, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Hope you mean drops in the eye and nothing that’s going to remind us of Michael Jackson and hotel balconies.

  13. 13.

    BGinCHI

    February 11, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Repeated from previous thread: Cheeseheads, your Guv has gone plum loco.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/new-wisc-gop-governor-pushes-hard-for-rolling-back-workers-rights-by-decades.php?ref=fpa

  14. 14.

    The Dangerman

    February 11, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    The reason … right-wingers all hate any high-speed rail proposals from Obama…

    I don’t know about Libertarians, but right wingers hate any and every proposal from Obama. Fuck, the Right is losing their shit over Egypt, even though this type of event is exactly what Dubya proposed in one of his SOTU’s (just saw it on The Last Word).

  15. 15.

    lamh34

    February 11, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    @MobiusKlein:

    Okay, I’m glad I’m not the first to notice, but has Justin Bieber become the primary stockholder in BJ Inc…? My God, the only place where i’ve seen more Bieber movie adverts is on Nickelodeon (yes, I’m a 34 y.o. single childless adult, and I love Spongebob Squarepants, so I watch Nickelodeon).

    It’s down right distracting.

    Please someone save me from the Bieber adverts.

  16. 16.

    dmsilev

    February 11, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    No, it’s simpler than that. You write

    The reason the glibertarians and right-wingers all hate any high-speed rail proposals from Obama and Democrats

    which is simply a special case of the more general law:

    The glibertarians and right-wingers all hate any proposals from Obama and Democrats

    dms

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    @lamh32:

    yes, I’m a 34 y.o. single childless adult, and I love Spongebob Squarepants, so I watch Nickelodeon

    Ummm…whut?

  18. 18.

    MobiusKlein

    February 11, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    @lamh32: @lamh32: I watched it, thinking it was the clip. perhaps better that way.

  19. 19.

    Violet

    February 11, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    @jeffreyw:
    Robin? Isn’t that a cardinal? Cool photo!

  20. 20.

    Cat Lady

    February 11, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Shit’s gettin’ weird.

    That is all.

  21. 21.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    What??? I watch Nickelodeon for the Spongebob Squarepants tv show.

    Spongebob is way more subversive than people think. So yes, I watch Spongebob.

    And since I’m being so honest, I watch ICarly too. Sue me.

    maybe I need an intervention…lol

  22. 22.

    JPL

    February 11, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    @MobiusKlein: didn’t watch it but I’m sure it’s better then Doug’s clip.

  23. 23.

    MikeJ

    February 11, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    @lamh32: Are you a creddie or a seddie?

  24. 24.

    max

    February 11, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    because Dagny Taggart is supposed to be making our new rail.

    Um. I didn’t see any high-speed rail in that trailer. (At least the part I watched.) Looked like old fashioned slow-speed rail going 60-70 miles an hour to me.

    If it ain’t then clearly they’ve gone and repealed aerodynamics.

    max
    [‘Which, in Galtworld, makes sense!’]

  25. 25.

    freelancer

    February 11, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    No, they’re the Cabinet from Idiocracy (I never seen no plant grow outta no toilet!).

    “If Obama’s so smart, why come haven’t he invented no Static Electricity powered train, huh?!”

  26. 26.

    beltane

    February 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    You’re putting way too much thought into this. Right-wingers simply hate anything Obama and liberals profess to care about while glibertarians are desperate to find ways to glorify their own profound mediocrity. I’ve said it before but Ayn Rand is nothing more than a grim, joyless, bourgeois version of the Marquis de Sade. A hero who only cares about making money is about as compelling as a rat who only cares about eating. Bor-ing.

  27. 27.

    jl

    February 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @John Cole:

    “Rosie is fine. Just needs some drops is all.”

    What kind of John Cole pet story is that? No crises, no disasters, no angst, no stepping barefoot in dog poo in the middle of the night, no assassination attempts against the poor ever suffering owner. No apocalypse.

    Some one is spoofing Cole, I guess.

    But, I am glad it turned out to be a minor problem.

  28. 28.

    kdaug

    February 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @lamh34:

    yes, I’m a 34 y.o. single childless adult, and I love Spongebob Squarepants

    I know correlation isn’t causation, but do you think there could be a connection?

  29. 29.

    Comrade Luke

    February 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Thanks for the update, John.

    I feel so stupid for repeatedly coming to a site run by people I don’t know to check on the health of a dog I’ll never meet.

  30. 30.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @MikeJ:

    If by seddie you mean “Freddie” and “Sam” then I’m def a seddie…lol?

    If ur talking ’bout some kinky shit, then, I’ll go with “creddie” since it’s almost like the word credit, which I wish I had more of…lol.

    Carly doesn’t deserve Freddie. Freddie needs someone like Sam to shake up his “goodie too shoes” attitude. Plus it’d scare the heck out of his mom.

    Maybe I do need an intervention.

  31. 31.

    Joshua Norton

    February 11, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Actually they’re all very much in favor of “pulling a train”. They’re just broken hearted when they find out it refers to high speed rail.

  32. 32.

    jeffreyw

    February 11, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    @Violet: Yup, that is a cardinal. She is tired of winter and is calling for the robins to come and to bring spring with them. Perhaps a bit too oblique?

  33. 33.

    MikeJ

    February 11, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @lamh32: Isn’t creddie and seddie what the factions called themselves in “iStart a Fan War”?

    Did you know that the Seattle Art Museum has a robot made out of green soda bottles? The plaque does not credit the artist as Spencer Shay though.

  34. 34.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @kdaug:

    Haha.

    Seriously though, I have an 11 y.o. nephew, and a upteen younger cousins who are under the age of 12. They love nickelodeon. I spend as much time with all my fam as I can, so I tend to spend alot of time with them too, and Nickelodeon is on a running loop at the homes of the family when the young kids.

    That’s it. No causation, no correlation.

  35. 35.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @lamh32: There is absolutely no “maybe” involved here.

    I actually knew the seddie creddie question but I have a 6 yr old.

    Aruthor forever!

  36. 36.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    @Comrade Luke: And to think we co run a benevolent dictatorship together…
    Get a hold of yourself man!

  37. 37.

    WyldPirate

    February 11, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @MobiusKlein:

    You know what? Right below the post was an ad for Justin Beiber, and I clicked it by mistake. Couldn’t be any worse than being Galt-rolled.

    Haha. I was just thinking of what the ad server would do if someone had Justin Beiber in their handle or signed their posts–or repeated his name multiple times per posts.

    We would probably be subjected with pics of Beiber wearing fugly spring “fashion” for boys in short order.

  38. 38.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @MikeJ:

    Oooh, I missed iStart a Fan War. Was that the one with Jack Black?

    (told ya’ll I may need an intervention…lol!)

  39. 39.

    MikeJ

    February 11, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’m looking forward to your Gibby-centric slash fiction.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    @MikeJ: You jest but let me tell you something. Sam will try her shit on one too many times and end up in the basement wondering how Gibby got to her.

  41. 41.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Honestly, I’ve kinda fallen in love with Disney’s Phineas and Ferb.
    I will watch ANYTHING that is not Max & Ruby or Rugrats.
    And I do mean ANYTHING.

  42. 42.

    demkat620

    February 11, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    My JRT had an ear infection once. Dear god you would have thought I was trying to kill the little fucker with the ear drops.

    Eye drops? Good luck with that.

  43. 43.

    Loneoak

    February 11, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    The worst aspect of that trailer?

    It’s for Part I.

  44. 44.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Speaking of Sam, how old is that kid? I know from the show they play high schoolers right (10 or 11 grade)? But I think that the young lady who plays Sam seems older than 16?

  45. 45.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    @lamh32: I’m sorry, I don’t actually stalk the actresses that play characters in my son’s favorite Nickelodeon programmes.
    And that is something I am absolutely going to stick to.

  46. 46.

    Dexwood

    February 11, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Make sure Rosie gets a treat after the eye drops. Make her feel special for getting them. Basic training, make her cooperative. In my experience, it helps to have another dog around, fake administer drops to Lily if jealously will motivate Rosie. Make it desirable for Rosie.

  47. 47.

    Southern Beale

    February 11, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    According to Wonkette, the trailer got cheers at CPAC. They write:

    Who knew they were so big on high-speed rail?

  48. 48.

    Shithead #3 - formerly Gen Stuck

    February 11, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Dear Mr. Cole

    There will be no need from this shithead to create pre emptive outrage concerning posts with you know who, linked or referenced. I do promise not to be a shithead, or whatever, and will not be commenting on such threads by you or others, unless it directly attacks Obama unfairly. I don’t want to be the cause of something that dumb again.

    Besides, it won’t be Egypt, but i got my laptop and will only be freeloading on wifi hotspots out and about here pretty soon. So you all will be reasonably stuck free fairly soon, but I will be commenting on posts by my unconditional blog friend for life, Kay.

    Pre celebrate, if you need to.

    sincerely

    Shithead #3

    PS – for those that may jone’s for some Obama worship, i will be posting on my blog more often, drop by if you like.

  49. 49.

    Kristine

    February 11, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @Comrade Luke: Welcome to the Club!

  50. 50.

    Kristine

    February 11, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: A couple of friends are trying to drag me into the Phineas and Ferb sphere. I’m 52 years old, for crying out loud.

    Besides, I still miss Dangermouse.

  51. 51.

    Keith G

    February 11, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    @Corner Stone: You are back.

  52. 52.

    Another Commenter at Balloon Juice (fka Bella Q)

    February 11, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    What did your vet think of Prozac for Rosie? I’m glad her eye is okay, of course.

  53. 53.

    Nicole

    February 11, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    I said it on the last thread; I’m saying it here. Opening night. I’m going. Cannot WAIT for the dramatic moment when Dagny trades her diamond bracelet for Lillian Reardon’s Reardon Metal bracelet. Or when Hank Reardon gives Dagny a fur coat, which got, like, half a chapter of description.

    Popcorn, Twizzlers, and nachos with the orange semi- liquid topping. My digestive system can just go Galt that night.

  54. 54.

    beltane

    February 11, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    @Loneoak: No one but diehard Rand cultists are going to sit through that movie, not even for Part I. Yeah, Fox might get the teabaggers to the theater but most of them will either fall asleep or walk out within the first 15 minutes. Too much talk, not enough guns, not enough stuff blowing up. It’s like a Merchant-Ivory production for wingnuts; they will hate it.

  55. 55.

    Mark S.

    February 11, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    He hasn’t gotten as much attention as other teabaggers, but Rick Scott is doing his best to turn Florida into a Galtian paradise.

  56. 56.

    Southern Beale

    February 11, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Via Wikiepdia:

    After filming was completed it was revealed that the release date would be April 15, 2011, what was assumed would be Tax Day in the United States, though in reality Tax Day in 2011 falls three days later, on the 18th.[15]

    Whoopsies

  57. 57.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Wow, I don’t know if you took my question the wrong way, but I guess you are.

    I am NOT stalking the actresses that play characters in your son’s favorite Nickelodeon show.

    I may be reading you wrong (which is fairly easy reading a statement as opposed to hearing it said) but you seem to have taken my question in some sort of warped way. It was just a question, nothing sinister about it.

    If I read ya wrong, I apologize. If I didn’t and you meant ur statement to sound as pissy as it did, then so whatever.

  58. 58.

    Brian S (formerly Incertus)

    February 11, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    @Mark S.: Makes me a little glad that I’m moving out of this state, much as I love it, this summer for the decidedly less temperate climes of Des Moines. Get out before it all falls apart.

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @Kristine: Just let go. P&F are a revelation. Phineas knows no macho, or ego, or “ME!”.
    He’s a truly benign character who only wants to enhance those around him, support them and let them know how special they are.
    Ferb is the rock that can’t be broken. A maestro at any number of skill sets, his quiet confidence lends itself to a kind of serenity.
    Together, I understand they are what the original Tao of The Matrix hypothesized. A kind of giving of oneself to others.
    They treat the interested beauty and the local bully the same, as individuals who are special and can contribute their own unique understanding of the world around them.
    Their possibly unbelievable exploits exist in a kind of time outside of time, a place where parents (or authority enforced externally) have no real power and are always a step too slow. Indeed, the only episode where their “mother” actually busts them leads to future chaos.
    In short, they are the platonic ideal of youth. Trusting, giving, wide eyed to possibilities.

  60. 60.

    Southern Beale

    February 11, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    In other news, Teanut Governor Nikki Haley is now in a feud with a local Fox affiliate after she dared call them a “tabloid news station.” The horror.

  61. 61.

    Martin

    February 11, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    @John Cole: Dude, don’t drop the dog.

  62. 62.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    @lamh32: We’re a couple 30-somethings talking about iCarly on a Friday night.
    Let’s just have a little fun with each other, or else I’m gonna need a bottle of vodka bigger than 1.75 liters.

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    @Corner Stone: And DO NOT get me started on Doofenshmirtz!

  64. 64.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    you got it dude. pass the vodka…lol.

  65. 65.

    Emma

    February 11, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Comrade Luke: Welcome to the crazy club.

  66. 66.

    Martin

    February 11, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    @Corner Stone: Keep writing like that and Reason is going to give you a job.

  67. 67.

    Boudica

    February 11, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Freddie and Sam are 18. Carly is 17. Spencer is 34. (In real life)

  68. 68.

    Southern Beale

    February 11, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Oh wow it gets even better!!! Check out the inaugural issue of Tea Party Review!

    You just can’t make this shit up. Wonder how much money the Koch brothers will have to sink into this rag to keep it afloat?

  69. 69.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    By the way, for those of you with a Spec’s nearby. You absolutely must try the Camarena tequila.
    Damn it is good. A little spicy, a hint of chocolate (I think). I suggest a couple ounces over ice and then a splash of coke or sprite in a highball glass.
    It is super good for the low price point.

  70. 70.

    Martin

    February 11, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @Corner Stone: My daughter watches iCarly. I’ve seen damn near all of them, but I’m secretly a bigger fan of Victorious. I don’t dare reveal that to her.

  71. 71.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    February 11, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @Dexwood:

    This. When I have to give Cueball the flea drops on his butt I first give them to Judy, at which point Cueball thinks she is getting something he isn’t and literally shoves her out of the way to get HIS flea drops. (Despite the fact that shortly thereafter he is running around the house trying to escape from his own butt).

  72. 72.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Alright, back to the subject at hand…that DAMN Bieber video…

    I guess this would be considered “clever marketing”, but this kinda weirds me out…

    ‘Justin Bieber: Never Say Never’: Will Paramount’s Christian outreach program get young men to see it?

    Justin Bieber: Never Say Never hits theaters this weekend, and, God willing, could be the topic of many conversations come Sunday — at least that’s what Paramount, the studio behind the 3-D documentary’s release, is hoping. Paramount has held 20 screenings in 20 markets at the end of January for Christian leaders, some of whom then offered written endorsements, arranged group ticket sales for their fellowship, or requested a copy of the study guide produced for the movie titled “Never Say Never: For Nothing Is Impossible With God.”

    Execs recognized that the film’s message of hope and Bieber’s strong Christian beliefs, about which both he and his mother Pattie Mallette have spoken extensively, were an opportunity to reach out to the faith community. The study guide is a collaboration between Bieber’s mother and Allied Faith & Family, an arm of Allied Integrated Marketing…

  73. 73.

    PurpleGirl

    February 11, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    I watched the trailer. I’ve never read the book; well, a page or two and found it boring and awful.

    Anyway, I was thinking about it and it hit me as very anachronistic in its portrayal of the industrial empire. (The book was published in 1957.) It has a family owning a large company empire. Even in the late 1950s, corporations were giving way to other ownership models. And trains were not the force that they once were. It was just a little later than when the book was published that various train companies sought to shed passenger service to concentrate on freight service. The movie I’d most compare the view of corporate industrial ownership to is Sabrina. In the earlier version (with Audrey Hepburn and Humphrey Bogart) and set in the late 1940s/early 1950s, the family ownership is somewhat believable. In the remake, it was completely opposite to me — they didn’t really place the movie time-wise and the family ownership didn’t work for me. That’s what Atlas Shrugged trailer looked like to me. I couldn’t suspend my reality meters. It feels wrong.

    ETA: I expect Randian true believes will lap it up. It’s their fantasy world.

  74. 74.

    lamh32

    February 11, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Boudica:

    That dude who plays Spencer is 34! Wow same age as me. Maybe it’s just the character, but he seems younger.

    BTW, most “young” men I know ain’t gonna see no Justin Bieber movie, God or no God. (This is in response to my earlier comment: @lamh32)

  75. 75.

    El Cid

    February 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    YOU WILL NOT TAKE MY METAL!

  76. 76.

    Keith G

    February 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    @Corner Stone: You put…stuff…in tequila?

  77. 77.

    JGabriel

    February 11, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Christ, I go away for a couple hours and miss the Atlas Shrugged, Part 1 trailer? So many good targets to snark, and I’m fucking late to the party.

    Damn it.

    .

  78. 78.

    JGabriel

    February 11, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    I expect Randian true believes will lap it up. It’s their fantasy world.

    Yeah, it’s like Lord of the Rings from the Orcs point of view, and Sauron wins. With rapes.

    .

  79. 79.

    Brian S (formerly Incertus)

    February 11, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    @PurpleGirl: I expect Randian true believes will lap it up. It’s their fantasy world.

    Yup. Only question is whether or not there are enough Randian true believers to make it a financial success the way the fundies made The Jesus Chainsaw Massacre one for Mel Gibson.

  80. 80.

    JGabriel

    February 11, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    @Boudica:

    Carly is 17.

    So if I just wait 10 years, she’ll be 27 and I’ll be …

    Shit, how did I get so fucking old?

    .

  81. 81.

    Another Commenter at Balloon Juice (fka Bella Q)

    February 11, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @Keith G: Somehow, that’s just … wrong.

  82. 82.

    jl

    February 11, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    The Atlas Shrugged (Part I!) trailer was good for some giggles.

    I hope the movie is a smash hit. Will get people interested in big trains that go really fast, which maybe will be considered cool. Don’t look like there is anything else that people will remember after it’s over.

    Edit: except stylent late 40ish decor, which would be nice to have some more of too. If the movie does those two things, then it will be worth it. And if big fast trains get some popular support from the movie (with big gummint money) maybe the director will realize his mistake and cancel part II(!).

  83. 83.

    Karen in GA

    February 11, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    @beltane:

    A hero who only cares about making money is about as compelling as a rat who only cares about eating. Bor-ing.

    I haven’t seen, nor will I see, “Atlas Shrugs.” But there’s no way I can let you mention it in the same breath as “Ratatouille.” Pistols at dawn, sir/madam.

    (Unless you weren’t thinking of the Pixar film, in which case, never mind.)

  84. 84.

    scottinnj

    February 11, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    I don’t know the exact source of this following quote but I think it is one of the best descriptions of Atlas Shrugged:

    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

  85. 85.

    suzanne

    February 11, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Honestly, I’ve kinda fallen in love with Disney’s Phineas and Ferb.

    Oh, my God, it’s so good. I’m 31 and watching kids cartoons. God, i am lame.

  86. 86.

    beltane

    February 11, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    @Brian S (formerly Incertus): None of the rank-and-file wingnuts I know would be able to sit through the trailer much less the whole film. These people like blood and action and special effects. A low-budget adaptation of a very boring, very wordy novel is not going to cut it with them.

    Mel Gibson might be a fascist douchebag but he is a talented fascist douchebag.

  87. 87.

    KG

    February 11, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Clippers and Cavs, tied at 108 with just under a minute to go… Cavs staring history in the face, having lost 26 straight.

    ETA: 20 seconds to go, Clips just hit two free throws to take the lead.

    ETAx2: 6 seconds and Mo Williams hit a pretty jumper to tie.

  88. 88.

    Jennyjinx

    February 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    @jeffreyw,

    We in Ohio like to call those cardinals. That is NOT a robin— a bird which brings me great joy when I see it in the winter because it’s way better than the groundhog to tell me when spring is imminent. You can always tell by the comb. And, no, it doesn’t really matter except cardinals don’t bring spring and robins do. :)

  89. 89.

    beltane

    February 11, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    @Karen in GA: The rats in Ratatouille have characters that are far more complex and developed than that of John Galt.

  90. 90.

    MikeJ

    February 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    @Karen in GA: Ratatouille wasn’t about a rat eating, it was about a rat cooking.

  91. 91.

    b-psycho

    February 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Question: if the high-speed rail stuff actually comes to pass, whose neighborhoods are likely to be wiped out to make the routes?

  92. 92.

    Another Commenter at Balloon Juice (fka Bella Q)

    February 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @jeffreyw: I didn’t find it too oblique, but the lady cardinal who is cold will likely confuse many who thought you called her a robin, based on the title. I found it a clever take on the topic, but I’ve a soft spot for the cardinal girls, and harbingers of spring though they may be, I don’t much fancy robins. And of course it’s a lovely photo.

  93. 93.

    Karen in GA

    February 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @beltane: Hell, the character of the food in Ratatouille was more complex than John Galt.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @Martin: Dood, why you hatin’ on me cudlip?

  95. 95.

    KG

    February 11, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    @KG: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVERTIIIIIIIIIIIIME

  96. 96.

    Jennyjinx

    February 11, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @jeffreyw,
    Nevermind. Just saw your explanation. A flock of robins just moved back into my lilac bush yesterday. I actually got excited. :)

  97. 97.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Keith G: Of course. I’m not held down by the purists. I’m all about finding what I like and going with it.

  98. 98.

    freelancer

    February 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @KG:

    It’s a Clippers game. Calm down, son.

  99. 99.

    jeffreyw

    February 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @Jennyjinx: Too subtle? The cardinal female is tired of winter, and calls for the robins. Everyone knows that the robins bring spring. Should I add quotes to the title?

  100. 100.

    KG

    February 11, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    @freelancer: I know, but the Cavs have lost 26 in a row, they are set to break the Bucs all time, all sport record for most consecutive losses. Otherwise, I don’t really care, besides, the Lakers are blowing out the Knicks in New York, so I need to find something to keep me entertained before I do something stupid.

  101. 101.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    @suzanne: This past summer I took my son to the Hill Country Hyatt Resort outside San Antonio, TX.
    They didn’t have Nick but they did have Disney.
    And honestly, it was the only thing keeping me from putting him in the car and going back home, on a couple different times.
    It’s hard to explain but Suite Life on Deck, P&F and the SharkBoy and LavaGirl movie saved that vacation for us.
    So yeah, you’re lame. God, 31? Really?

  102. 102.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    February 11, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    @b-psycho:

    You know you keep saying that, but you fail to consider the big picture, how many people will be able to get to work cheaply without having to own a car? There are millions of people in this country right now who cannot work because they do not have a car, shit they can’t even buy groceries unless they have a large cab fee. Getting from point A to point B should not mean that you have to have a spare $3K lying around to buy a car. This country is so screwed up sometimes.

  103. 103.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    @Martin: She already knows.

  104. 104.

    Karen in GA

    February 11, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    @MikeJ: Of course he cooked, but it was because he loved good food. Ultimately, it was all about the eating.

    Okay, maybe I had to make a little bit of a stretch in responding to Beltane. But I’m sticking to it. Go with me on this, if only out of pity. (I used to go out and actually do stuff on Friday nights. No, really.)

  105. 105.

    Cat Lady

    February 11, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    @beltane:

    Mel Gibson might be a fascist douchebag but he is a talented fascist douchebag.

    Apocalypto kind of freaked me out about how good it was in general, and then n particular considering the source. It’s very anti-Catholic too, weirdly. That cat’s got some strange juju.

  106. 106.

    KG

    February 11, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: but is high speed rail the answer? I would think that more local, light rail (with more stops) would be useful for that. I always saw high speed rail (with fewer stops) as being used to get from, say LA to SF or Vegas or SD, Houston to Dallas, Orlando to Miami.

  107. 107.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    February 11, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @Jennyjinx:

    Our entire County has been invaded by Robins recently, they are on every median here, picking at the grass and the crepe myrtle seeds. It appears that there are millions of them.

  108. 108.

    suzanne

    February 11, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    So yeah, you’re lame. God, 31? Really?

    Yep. All year.
    I got into P&F with my boyfriend (now husband) and some of our friends. A roomful of adults, kids playing outside, sitting around watching cartoons. Yeah, we’re awesome.

  109. 109.

    Arclite

    February 11, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    @lamh34:

    Okay, I’m glad I’m not the first to notice, but has Justin Bieber become the primary stockholder in BJ Inc…?

    Yes, and tomorrow the site will be renamed:

    http://WWW.BUSTIN-JEIBER.COM

  110. 110.

    Calouste

    February 11, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    The book (never read it, so going from the themes and Rand’s bio) doesn’t really play in 1950’s America does it? It plays in 1917 Russia in a 1950’s America setting.

  111. 111.

    Martin

    February 11, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    @Corner Stone: You’ve got to admit, Reason would have been all over this shit:

    Ferb is the rock that can’t be broken. A maestro at any number of skill sets, his quiet confidence lends itself to a kind of serenity.
    …
    Their possibly unbelievable exploits exist in a kind of time outside of time, a place where parents (or authority enforced externally) have no real power and are always a step too slow.

    They’re making a trilogy about these characters, right?

  112. 112.

    Martin

    February 11, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    @Corner Stone: I know. Indulge my self-deception, please.

  113. 113.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    @Martin: I don’t actually read Reason, but from what little I’ve gleaned here – there are no leather jackets involved in my synopsis. And I’m pretty sure no hippies got poked in the eye with a sharp stick, nor any corporations were fellated.
    And man, I could totally go on about the relationship between Doofenshmirtz and Agent P.
    Not to mention the “oblivious” reaction by Phineas.

  114. 114.

    aliasofwestgate

    February 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    @suzanne:

    I’m 33 and i’m still watching Power Rangers. I was watching the 2008 show, Power Rangers RPM. PR meets MadMax. I was vastly amused, and they had a slew of injokes. (Granted, i’m also a fan of the japanese original shows, who have fans of ALL ages because that thing’s been airing for 35 years straight now.)

    So yes. i may need an intervention, but i’m far too busy having gigglefits in the corner about the unabashed silly of two guys in rubber suits bashing each other with plastic weapons and stunt actors posing in spandex. :D It’s a good way to relax, but then i’m a rabid anime fan, so i sorta stumbled into tokusatsu. Kamen Rider is also my other big thing. Look it up, it’s pretty cool.

  115. 115.

    b-psycho

    February 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I completely agree with you. I’m not just saying that, I actually do. But if the car culture is a product of subsidized sprawl & the hollowing out of actual cities in favor of cookie cutter “bedroom communities”, isn’t sticking rail on top of that just a greener form of subsidizing the same commutes?

  116. 116.

    Corner Stone

    February 11, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @suzanne: “You’re diggin’ my ride from outer space!”
    “You know you’re diggin’ it, baby.”

  117. 117.

    gwangung

    February 11, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    @scottinnj: That was the inimitable Jon Rogers, of course, creator/show runner of Leverage, shown on TNT.

    For saying that, by itself, you should be a fan for at least a season. But then there’s GIna Bellman (and you’ll have to fight Cole for her….).

  118. 118.

    gnomedad

    February 11, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @scottinnj:

    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

    John Rogers

    ETA
    @gwangung:
    You win.

  119. 119.

    cthulhu

    February 11, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    It’s interesting that it has a budget of $15M and no indication that Part 2 is in pre-production. So, if it bombs, and if Parts 2 and 3 do get made, they will be with declining straight-to-video budgets. That could make for further laughs.

  120. 120.

    gbear

    February 11, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: What is this ‘grass’ you speak of?

  121. 121.

    Jebediah

    February 11, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    @lamh32:
    You don’t need an intervention. I am 45 and I dig Phineas and Ferb, for which I too will not apologize. I also like the Spongebob, but I haven’t been watching it lately.

  122. 122.

    Jebediah

    February 11, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    @Dexwood:
    Second the treats after meds thing. I always display the treat before administering the medicine (or toothbrushing or whatever) so they have an incentive to cooperate.
    Or, alternatively, I will volunteer to administer Rosie’s eyedrops so she will not bear any grudge against her daddy.
    How far is Chez Cole from SoCal?

  123. 123.

    Jebediah

    February 11, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Nicely put. Plus, Phineas’ head is a triangle!

  124. 124.

    Allan

    February 11, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    If it’s a hit, can we look forward to The Turner Diaries at a multiplex someday soon?

  125. 125.

    Allan

    February 11, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    And don’t forget, the sequel to Atlas Shrugged has already been written…

  126. 126.

    Martin

    February 12, 2011 at 12:55 am

    @Jebediah: About 70 or 80 years, from what I can tell.

  127. 127.

    Anne Laurie

    February 12, 2011 at 1:51 am

    @Brian S (formerly Incertus):

    Makes me a little glad that I’m moving out of this state, much as I love it, this summer for the decidedly less temperate climes of Des Moines.

    Yeah, but you’re moving to Iowa just in time for the 2012 primaries… we’re near enough to the New Hampshire border to get entirely too many campaign ads every other year, but you’ll have to put up with those plus the actual candidates in the near-human flesh…

  128. 128.

    Yutsano

    February 12, 2011 at 2:06 am

    @Corner Stone: Plus the song that has every member of the male species pegged. Plus caramelldansen.

  129. 129.

    Jebediah

    February 12, 2011 at 2:13 am

    @Martin:
    Well, I guess I’ll be staying put then.

  130. 130.

    Joseph Nobles

    February 12, 2011 at 2:25 am

    Fucking static electricity, how does it work?

  131. 131.

    Jeff Fecke

    February 12, 2011 at 2:28 am

    Ordinarily I’d complain that the thread had gotten derailed what with the Phineas and Ferb talk, but quite frankly, P&F have far less cartoonish characters and far more realistic plot than anything Ayn Rand dreamed of in her withered, government-supported heart. We’re all better off discussing them. Hey, this weekend’s the musical episode!

    (Seriously, how can you not love a show that has an evil scientist singning, “Cause everyone else is a proletariat/And baby, I’m the bourgeoisie!”)

  132. 132.

    Sixers

    February 12, 2011 at 2:28 am

    Now I finally understand why they call it the tea party express. Or do I ?

  133. 133.

    trollhattan

    February 12, 2011 at 2:37 am

    I can get behind the Spongebob, as they throw enough bones, er, boneless snacks our way. The Crusty Crab Corporate Training Video is a must for anybody who’s worked for The Man. Office Space writ tiny.

    icarly drives me bonkers, but that’s because having a now 9YO grrl means it’s on, damnit, spaghetti tacos and all. And let me warn you parents about the much worse Wizards of Waverly Place, next in the endless Disney progression of hell.

    Anyway, I see icarly herself is all over the damn place. For example, see the far left of this frame.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5267470020/in/photostream/

    Miranda, she everywhere!

  134. 134.

    Yutsano

    February 12, 2011 at 2:40 am

    @Jeff Fecke: Not to mention a lot of their stuff translates well, so much so in this case I think this song works better en francais.

  135. 135.

    Jebediah

    February 12, 2011 at 2:45 am

    @Jeff Fecke:

    “Seriously, how can you not love a show that has an evil scientist singing, “Cause everyone else is a proletariat/And baby, I’m the bourgeoisie!”

    True, although I think my favorite songs are (don’t know if they have actual titles) “Nemesis” and “Atlantis.”

  136. 136.

    Wile E. Quixote

    February 12, 2011 at 3:37 am

    @scottinnj:

    John Rogers at Kung Fu Monkey.

  137. 137.

    Wile E. Quixote

    February 12, 2011 at 3:42 am

    Jesus, railroads. Of course the wingnuts and randroids will completely ignore the fact that every single high-speed rail system in the world benefits from massive government subsidies, just as they ignore other contradictions in her writing and philosophy.

  138. 138.

    Wile E. Quixote

    February 12, 2011 at 3:43 am

    I just want to know one thing

    “Who is John Cole?”

  139. 139.

    Jebediah

    February 12, 2011 at 4:12 am

    Ooh, ooh, ooh – maybe now is the time to mention that apparently I live near a Randian God!!!
    There is a car that parks near my section of Galt’s Gulch that has a license plate frame that poses the eternal dogfart question: “Who Is John Galt?”
    I have been tempted to prepare a series of answers on index cards and slip one a day under a windshield wiper.

  140. 140.

    PanurgeATL

    February 12, 2011 at 4:42 am

    @Jebediah:

    This question ultimately has a very simple answer:

    “John Galt is NOT YOU.”

  141. 141.

    Jebediah

    February 12, 2011 at 5:24 am

    @PanurgeATL:
    Yeah, I am not sure John Galt would drive a little yellow Honda – and if he did, he would have a car-hole to park it in.

  142. 142.

    HeartlandLiberal

    February 12, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Actually, the Reich-Wing opposes high speed rail because it is a clear indicator of socialism.

    Just think about it. The cult of the personal car and the growth of our highway system, the death of inner cities and the spread to the suburbs after the implementation of the freeway system in the 1950’s, all grew out of the auto industry’s purchase of Congress in the 20’s and 30’s, which led directly to the beginning of the death of the passenger train industry in America.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_streetcar_scandal

    Our society for the past 70 plus years has been predicated on the primacy of the individual and their automobile and personal transportation. We root this faith in the belief it represents FREEDOM, a magic word. Mass transportation has barely survived only in the major population centers on the NE coast, Chicago, and to some degree in cities in California.

    But any effort to expand mass transport, whether for the daily commute, or for long distance travel, is fiercely resisted, because it is a repudiation of the American belief in the individual auto. It is an emphasis on shared and communal solutions to transportation problems. You know. Socialism.

    It is really sad, and has come at great cost to our nation and society on so many fronts.

    I lived in Germany for a year many years ago, and we traveled by train almost every where, in comfort and convenience. I still remember the ad campaigns for the inter-city express trains, going anywhere in “zwei Stunden Takt”, a reminder you could on average be from any single major German city to the next nearest in just a short two hour tempo.

    I still fondly remember how we did even our weekend and holiday outings by train. We could hop a local train in the village where we lived, and 30 minutes later hop off at the station south of us at the base of the hill on top of which perched the famous Hohenzollern castle of the southern branch of the family.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenzollern_Castle

    We would then walk (yes. walk. on our feet, in our walking shoes) for about 20 minutes up the drive to the top of the isolated sugar loaf hill the mountain sat atop. And, we walked back down when we were through with the tour.

    Now look around you at an American population that is hitting a 50% of the population obesity rate. I don’t suppose we could get some statistically significant correlations going with the topic under discussion here, could we?

    Try to imagine your average American mind set accepting that they could not drive their car from home to the parking lot and would have to walk more than a couple hundred yards to their final destination. And if they did have to walk that far, they would expect some sort of shuttle to get them from the car to the door of the castle.

    (I often contemplate carrying a nail in my pocket to key the side of the luxury cars parked in the fire lanes at the supermarket just because their owners are too good to walk 40 feet from the nearest parking space. I admit freely to this recurring fantasy.)

  143. 143.

    Ron

    February 12, 2011 at 8:27 am

    @Corner Stone: How can you not like Phineas and Ferb. Our 4-year old loves it, but it’s just entertaining. (I love the end of the opening. “Mom! Phineas and Ferb are making a title sequence!”)

  144. 144.

    Corner Stone

    February 12, 2011 at 9:04 am

    @Yutsano: “In the city of loooove!”

    Personally, I think that song more aptly describes the female variety of our species. She wants something that just isn’t there, and yet blames him for it.
    Phineas rightly understands that to give her what she wants will damage her, and ultimately retard her self growth.

  145. 145.

    Corner Stone

    February 12, 2011 at 9:05 am

    @Jeff Fecke: There can be no derailing of a thread about a trailer about the worst novel ever written.
    It is by definition an “Open Thread”.

  146. 146.

    PurpleGirl

    February 12, 2011 at 9:24 am

    @Calouste: Good point. And being about Russia, of course a high speed train is needed to make the cross country trip, even some sort-of-local trips.

  147. 147.

    Fax Paladin

    February 12, 2011 at 10:23 am

    But are there enough Phineas & Ferb fans on this thread to TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA?

    (Don’t watch because I have no cable. I get plenty of secondhand P&F from friends, though.)

  148. 148.

    J.W. Hamner

    February 12, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    SUPER TRAIN!

    I refuse to acknowledge the rest.

  149. 149.

    droog

    February 13, 2011 at 7:12 am

    I don’t like to needlessly make fun of the careers of others. But for a film about the success and excellence of selfish individuals that front line up lacks luster. Ironic that the people investing money in this film don’t seem to have a whole lot of it. The supporting cast looks better, but those salaries would always be within reach of an micro-Galtian producer.

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