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Down With Bieber Open Thread

by Imani Gandy (ABL)|  February 14, 201112:01 am| 135 Comments

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The Grammys are on. The Bieber approacheth.

Help me, Cheesus.

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  1. 1.

    Comrade Mary

    February 14, 2011 at 12:03 am

    .. but also the Monae, the Muse, and the Arcade Fire. Don’t fear the Bieber.

  2. 2.

    gbbalto

    February 14, 2011 at 12:05 am

    All I can say is that Bieber accepted the judgement of FailBlog with good humor:
    http://failblog.org/?s=bieber

  3. 3.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 14, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Do keep in mind, however, that the “best new artist” Grammy is usually the kiss of death.

    Anyone remember Christopher Cross? I didn’t think so…

  4. 4.

    Comrade Luke

    February 14, 2011 at 12:18 am

    I think I figured out why Lady Gaga is so big: this generation never saw Madonna.

  5. 5.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 12:22 am

    @Comrade Luke: Bingo. That could be why the very few things I’ve heard from her sound so damn familiar.

  6. 6.

    Dana

    February 14, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Here’s how easy it is to create music along the lines of Bieber’s and so many, many others today.

    Listen instead to Esperanza Spalding.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PRKfj_5Oso&feature=player_embedded

  7. 7.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 12:24 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: he got caught between the moon and new york city; i know it’s crazy, but it’s true.

  8. 8.

    Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther

    February 14, 2011 at 12:26 am

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:

    Has anyone noticed the shocking similarities between a young Donny Osmond and Justin Beiber?

    Donny: http://bit.ly/gejkqK

    Justin: http://bit.ly/erU6RB

    I’m not saying. I’m just saying: Have all of Donny’s children been accounted for?

    (And I’m certainly not saying anything about how I know anything about what a young Donny Osmond looked like. Or how many years older he is than me [8]. Or how old we will both be when we get married).

  9. 9.

    robertdsc-PowerBook

    February 14, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Can I just say that the new design of DailyKos is incredibly ugly? I miss Teh Orange.

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 12:28 am

    @Angry Black Lady: There is a story that what really killed Christoper Cross’ career was video. He had a great voice, but the man really was ugly as sin. When the medium was just radio that was fine, but when everything migrated to videos in the 80’s Chris was pretty much toast. Which kinda bites cause the man really could sing, even if he did high grade gorgonzola for songs.

    And massamun curry for dinner. I r a happy duck.

  11. 11.

    Cliff

    February 14, 2011 at 12:30 am

    The Grammys are on. The Bieber approacheth.

    So, uh, don’t watch?

    That always seems to help me avoid shitty IQ-lowering pop music.

  12. 12.

    TooManyJens

    February 14, 2011 at 12:31 am

    @robertdsc-PowerBook: I don’t hate it. I feel left out.

  13. 13.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Arcade Fire FTW. Hurdy Gurdys & stuff. There’s hope for modern music.

    I like Lady Gaga. She’s funny and has style. Cute, too. Music is entertainment and she’s extremely entertaining to me.

  14. 14.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 12:34 am

    I DVRed them. That way I can watch them in less than an hour. Or not watch them at all.

    @Yutsano: Hi. You supposed to put duck IN curry–not be the duck.

    I’m cranky. I managed to fall off my computer chair and land on my right thigh and left wrist. Fortunately, I didn’t land on my flat ass, but still. What a damn klutz am I.

  15. 15.

    Warren Terra

    February 14, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Remember: The Television Is Off If You Want It.

    And if you want some non-pain-inducing, actually watchable video entertainment I’m sure you can find something on Netflix, handily banner-advertised right next to this comment box at the moment.

  16. 16.

    Warren Terra

    February 14, 2011 at 12:36 am

    @Yutsano:

    And massamun curry for dinner. I r a happy duck.

    And quite possibly a happy cannibal.

  17. 17.

    Wag

    February 14, 2011 at 12:43 am

    The Ramones just got a lifetime acievement award. My life Is complete!

    But too late for Johnny, Joey, and Deedee

  18. 18.

    Jeanne ringland

    February 14, 2011 at 12:43 am

    @Angry Black Lady: Then he went sailing.

  19. 19.

    Jeanne ringland

    February 14, 2011 at 12:44 am

    @Yutsano:Video Killed the Radio Star.

  20. 20.

    Jeanne ringland

    February 14, 2011 at 12:46 am

    @RossInDetroit: I find her entertaining too.

  21. 21.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 12:46 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    You supposed to put duck IN curry

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ0B6kvFy-k

  22. 22.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 12:47 am

    @Jeanne ringland: Love that song.

    And, Christopher Cross did the theme song to Arthur, right? Just saw the trailer over at Rumproast. Hated the original; the remake looks worse; I might have to see it because I luuuuuuuuuurv Helen Mirren.

  23. 23.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 12:49 am

    I’m old, and this is my first year of being old.

    It happened when I realized I can’t see and my IRS stuff is an enormous, multi-day pain. I hurt everywhere and may die tomorrow. But what really hit me in the gullet was when I realized that–although I knew of Lady Gaga and am generally aware of our abysmal culture–I had no idea who Lady Bieber was. ..

    He’s apparently a talentless 12 year old who should be studying algebra and respecting his parents. What the hell is the story? We let 12 year olds lead our culture now? WTF?

  24. 24.

    Morbo

    February 14, 2011 at 12:49 am

    Feh, new Orphaned Land album in 2010 and they couldn’t even slip it into Contemporary Folk?

  25. 25.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 12:49 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Ouch! Stop that. There are better ways to express Munchausen syndrome than by hurting yourself.

    @Warren Terra: It was chicken, so at least it was a fowl. And worth every damn bite. Also.

    @jeff:

    It happened when I realized I can’t see and my IRS stuff is an enormous, multi-day pain.

    FWIW I neither write nor handle tax law, so don’t be blaming me for this. I only come after you if you duck paying and/or filing. You do NOT want to talk to me.

  26. 26.

    General Stuck

    February 14, 2011 at 12:50 am

    I shot my teevee in Reno, just to watch it die.

  27. 27.

    Wag

    February 14, 2011 at 12:51 am

    I dig Gaga too. She’s funny and doesn’t take herself too seriously.

    And whats up with gwenith Paltrow? She’s having the time of her life with some superhero bird I’ve never heard of. That was great!

  28. 28.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 12:52 am

    @MattR: Remind me never to eat your mashed potatoes!

    @Yutsano: Heh. I was reaching for something (too damn lazy to get up), and I felt myself sliiiiiiiiiiding and BAM! Thigh, wrist, and scene.

  29. 29.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 12:54 am

    @Yutsano: What’s with you and the poultry tonight?

    Unrelated – has any one else watched the Onion News Network on IFC. I have liked what I’ve seen so far.

    @asiangrrlMN: On that note, this

  30. 30.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 12:56 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Mmm…mashed spuds. Best ones are Yukon golds. Which are neither from the Yukon nor made of gold. Discuss.

    Yeah, I’ve done that before. Almost did it the other day when Lexie knocked something off the table and it landed under the bed. Feeling yourself falling while blood is pooling in your brain is not happiness.

    @MattR: What’s wrong with poultry? I like poultry. Hell I’ve even raised poultry. Except for turkeys. They’re teabagger levels of stupid.

  31. 31.

    gbear

    February 14, 2011 at 12:56 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: I wish I could forget the Starland Vocal Band and ‘Afternoon Delight’.

    The song ‘Sometimes When We Touch’ (hell if I can remember who sang it) was playing at a convenience store today and waves of disgust passed through me. I had managed to avoid that song for ages.

  32. 32.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 12:57 am

    I’ve had a great weekend!

    Yesterday I went to Rebecka Vaughan (our city’s finest lingerie store) and got my girls an early birthday present.

    This morning, I sang “Be Thou My Vision” like a good Irish tenor, and made my congregation very happy.

    This afternoon, I went to the tip to unload all my um, glass; and spotted a Mac G4 in the computer pile.

    I dragged it home, and got it up and running! I’m giving it to my girlfriend at work whose computer took a dump a few months ago.

  33. 33.

    Comrade Luke

    February 14, 2011 at 12:57 am

    @Wag: OK, that superhero bird comment made me laugh.

  34. 34.

    burnspbesq

    February 14, 2011 at 1:00 am

    HA!!!

    Esperanza Spalding saves Western Civilization!

  35. 35.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 1:01 am

    @Yutsano: I am guessing that you didn’t click my original link that asiangrrlMN was replying to. Or maybe you did.

    To atone, I offer 240 dollars worth of pudding.

  36. 36.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 1:03 am

    @MattR: OoooohKay. Now I can’t eat baba ganoush any more, either. Thanks. Any other food items you wish to ruin for me?

    ETA: I see I have to add pudding to the list. Wanker.

    @Yutsano: My Taiji teacher is supposed to teach me to fall the proper way (with minimal damage). I’m going to ask her to make that our next lesson.

    @gbear: I love the latter song! It brings out the emo in me.

    ETA: Dan Hill. You’re welcome.

  37. 37.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 1:03 am

    @MattR: Nah, I did. I ran with it anyway. I am never above having obscure motivations for the things that I do.

  38. 38.

    Wag

    February 14, 2011 at 1:04 am

    Sometimes When We Touch is by Eric someone or another who died of boredom soon after recording the song.

    Kind if like the Monty Python sketch about weaponizing the perfect joke

  39. 39.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 1:10 am

    @Wag: Freaking Dan Hill! I know my sappy ballads, OK?

    @hamletta: Sounds like fun! I love a good-fitting bra or teddy.

  40. 40.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 1:10 am

    @Yutsano:

    Ohhh, man. You have no idea. When I was a very, very poor student and laborer in NYC in the 90s, I did not know that I had to file both IRS and NY State IRS forms….and I did not.

    You would not believe what the penalty was, after I got them to rescind arresting me. Basically, they took 75% of my income for 3 years, and if I missed a payment, they could go directly to my savings or car, no legal questions period.

    In fact, I consider NY State Taxation to be the most evil organization on the planet, but I assume my perception is a bit off a bit. Albany is evil.

  41. 41.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 1:12 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I guess I better stop while there are still foods you can eat.

    @Yutsano: Nothing wrong with that. And for the record, my friends agree that the mashed potato bar at the rehearsal diner before one of our friend’s weddings was the greatest thing ever. Multiple types of potatos with various toppings and sauces/gravies all served in martini glasses.

  42. 42.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 1:13 am

    I should add that, because I owed about $11 in 1998, I had to pay a cumulative $15,000 to Albany–and that was with me talking weekly to my case manager and threatening (quite seriously) to slit my wrists. I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with them–but it seems obvious to me that somebody who made $13,000 in 1997 wasn’t trying to skip income tax.

  43. 43.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:13 am

    @gbear: “Sometimes When We Touch” is truly dreadful.

    But I feel compelled to defend the Starland Vocal Band, as I’m a DC native.

    Our illustrious host might feel slighted, but Bill Danoff wrote “Take Me Home, Country Road” about Muddy Branch Road in Gaithersburg, Maryland. He’d never set foot in the state of West Virginia.

    SVB did a lovely a cappella version of “An American Tune,” Paul Simon’s lament set to “O, Sacred Head Now Wounded,” which will always break your heart if you love this country and what it stands for.

  44. 44.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 1:15 am

    @MattR: Yeah. Especially as I’m lactose-intolerant, wheat-intolerant, and allergic to alky-hol. You keep dipping your wick in different foodstuffs, and I may never eat again. Hey. Good diet plan!

  45. 45.

    Martin

    February 14, 2011 at 1:15 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Anyone remember Christopher Cross? I didn’t think so…

    Dude had a whole Glee episode centered around him. Springsteen should be so lucky.

  46. 46.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 1:17 am

    @asiangrrlMN: In that case, enjoy

    From Wikipedia:

    Played by Ken Marino. One of the more ironic characters on the show, parodying sketch comedy characters who rely on catchphrases. Louie is a genial fellow with a strong desire to dip his “balls” (actual golf balls, although the innuendo was certainly intentional) in various things. His catchphrase, naturally, is a very enthusiastic “I wanna dip my balls in it!” One of the more memorable Louie sketches placed him at The Last Supper, in which Louie and his catchphrase distract the Twelve Apostles from Jesus’ speech concerning his fate. Louie would often tire of the gag halfway through the sketch, because he feels that it has “been done”, but would be encouraged by the loving crowd to continue. The punch line was that Louie would tell them they knew what he was going to say, they would say they didn’t but would then shout it along with him. According to DVD commentaries, “Louie” was originally a character who would only appear one time. MTV wanted a recurring character with a catchphrase, and the sketch was a “fuck you” to executives. According to a DVD commentary, “Louie” became a recurring character because “We liked it!”

  47. 47.

    burnspbesq

    February 14, 2011 at 1:21 am

    @jeff:

    In fact, I consider NY State Taxation to be the most evil organization on the planet

    The California Franchise Tax Board is worse.

  48. 48.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 1:24 am

    @MattR: You are a strange man who now has made me crossed oatmeal and orange juice off the list of things I can ingest. I don’t know whether to kiss you or to slap you. Maybe both?

    @hamletta: Well, I did give you a shout-out for your girls, but, hell, yeah. That’s pretty damn good dumpster-diving!

  49. 49.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:26 am

    Can I not get a shout for my fantastic dumpster-diving?

    I scored a computer in the trash that is the same as the one I’m writin’ this on. I am so happy that I can make my friend happy. I want to burst!

    And it’s only because some guy was stalling at the cardboard station.

  50. 50.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 1:28 am

    @Cliff: I like live-tweeting awards shows. It’s my self-imposed cross-eyed bear.

    Also, totally worth it for the Eminem/Dre performance.

  51. 51.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:28 am

    I just watched Exit Through The Gift Shop, and I think Banksy is Damien Hirst.

    The movie? Good. Very funny. Documentary as a shaggy dog story. Or vice versa?

    .

  52. 52.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 1:29 am

    Can I not get a shout for my fantastic dumpster-diving?

    you can indeed! that is awesome!

  53. 53.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 1:29 am

    @Yutsano: seriously? now i have to google him.

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 14, 2011 at 1:30 am

    @Martin:

    Once BSG folded, I wrote off TV, so have never seen Glee. It’s back to my DVDs of various Star Trek runs, B5, and BSG. And old movies. Like Bridge Over the River Kwai, The Manchurian Candidate, Victor/Victoria.

  55. 55.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Villago Delenda Est:

    Anyone remember Christopher Cross?

    It’s not that we don’t remember him. It’s just that we don’t want to.

    .

  56. 56.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 1:33 am

    @Wag: hahaha some superhero bird.

    gwyneth outsang katy perry and the gaga.

  57. 57.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:33 am

    @Angry Black Lady:

    now i have to google [Christopher Cross].

    You really don’t.

    .

  58. 58.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 1:33 am

    @burnspbesq:

    I don’t doubt that, but for everyone else, I want to be clear:

    The penalty in NY for under-reporting by 12 cents is the same for under-reporting for 99 Billion Dollars.

  59. 59.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 1:34 am

    @JGabriel: Kris Kross on the other hand is a different matter.

    @hamletta: That is an impressive find (well, other than the fact it’s a Mac)

  60. 60.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 1:35 am

    @burnspbesq: I derive great pleasure from making the Franchise Tax Board do the dance I want them to. I haven’t dealt much with the New York state system yet, but I’m sure it’s coming. I work late enough in the day that the vast majority of East Coast calls don’t haunt the other end of my telephone line. But yeah, they are their own level of nasty.

    @jeff: Cases like yours caused a huge rule change in how the IRS does business in 1998. We developed a more compassionate approach and started working with folks to get tax issues resolved rather than go directly to property and wage seizure. Now that usually comes out of the nice folks in Beefalo.

  61. 61.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:36 am

    @Angry Black Lady: Thank you, ma’am.

    I’m so happy! My friend has been computer-deprived for months.

  62. 62.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:37 am

    @robertdsc-PowerBook:

    Can I just say that the new design of DailyKos is incredibly ugly?

    I am conflicted. On the one hand, the new font is better and more readable; on the other hand, the new layout reminds me of a 19th century handbill.

    .

  63. 63.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 1:38 am

    @JGabriel:

    The Banksyfilm was one of the best things I saw this year. It’s fascinating and very funny. Obviously there’s a very bright prankster at work there, on several levels. I have my theories on this, but I just tell people to see it and enjoy.

  64. 64.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 1:39 am

    @MattR: They make me want to, jump jump!

    @hamletta: Hey, I gave you your props! I can’t help it if I answered before you asked the question! (Look at my comment right before yours).

  65. 65.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 1:40 am

    @asiangrrlMN: LET’S DO THE TIMEWARP AGAIN!!

    @JGabriel:

    You really don’t.

    This.

  66. 66.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 1:42 am

    @Yutsano:

    I defer to you, of course.

    The truth, though, is that every single cent I had for years went to pay Albany thousands and thousands of dollars over fewer than $10 in disagreement. I never received the mail they claim they had sent me until they had a court note presented to me with a notice and threatened to arrest me.

    Yes. It was $10. I settled out for around $10,000 in 2003.

  67. 67.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 1:42 am

    @JGabriel:

    Referring to the GOS redesign

    I am conflicted. On the one hand, the new font is better and more readable; on the other hand, the new layout reminds me of a 19th century handbill.

    It looks bourgeois to me. There. I said it.

  68. 68.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:44 am

    @JGabriel: Oh, dear, that is so true.

    And let’s not forget the year that Toto won everything.

    The one that really sticks with me is 1979, I think, when the nominees for Best New Artist were Cheap Trick, Elvis Costello, and I can’t remember who else, but the winner was Taste O’ Honey.

    Not that “Boogie-Oogie-Oogie” wasn’t a fucking great record, but really?

  69. 69.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:45 am

    @RossInDetroit:

    I have my theories on this…

    Do tell. Mine is that Guetta really was an amateur or professional videographer who got involved in taping the street art scene, met Fairey, then Banksy, and got recruited by them to play the role of an overhyped street artist.

    .

  70. 70.

    Comrade Luke

    February 14, 2011 at 1:45 am

    I think I like the Mumford & Sons/Avett Brothers/Dylan medley and Eminem/Dre/Rhianna medleys the best, though I was concerned for the anorexic chick that just kept singing that she wanted a doctor the whole time. Someone needs to bring her a cheeseburger.

  71. 71.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 1:47 am

    @asiangrrlMN: That song still makes me smile. Makes me think of the weekend of my senior prom when we all went to the Jersey Shore and that song was being played by pretty much every vendor on the boardwalk.

    Hopefully, this will get me close to having redeemed myself.

  72. 72.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 1:47 am

    @jeff: Unfortunately that was only federal law that changed. It sounds like Noo Yahk beat you up pretty good. I apologize for that.

  73. 73.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:49 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Sorry, darlin’.

    I guess I’ll have to relinquish Alan Rickman for a half-hour or so.

  74. 74.

    Martin

    February 14, 2011 at 1:49 am

    @JGabriel: I done my fair share of website layouts – it’s horrible. The layout is so open and inefficient that even on my 15″ laptop I get lost.

    I just loaded the front page and I can see the title of the top front page post. That’s it for content.

    I can’t see the body or even a teaser, I can’t see the wreck list, I can’t see diaries. I see an admin menu, an ad, a masthead, a section menu, a community spotlight with 6 links (I don’t even know what community spotlight means – is it another wreck list) and a feature which is ‘Welcome to DKos 4’.

    I have to page down 15 times to just cross the 3 front page stories.

  75. 75.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 1:54 am

    @JGabriel:

    I think Guetta is really that nuts. Banksy, Invader and Fairey decided he was too photogenic to pass up so they helped him into stardom, with or without his knowledge. It was a prank on the art world. We’ll never know who knew what and when, but I think that’s the bones of it.

  76. 76.

    jeff

    February 14, 2011 at 1:55 am

    @Yutsano:

    I had paid all of my taxes, both state and federal, the entire time. I had also filed Federal paperwork the whole time. I was a kid from Florida, and didn’t know that even if you paid state taxes, there was another form. I appreciate that the IRS isn’t trying to ruin poor people; unfortunately, Albany is absolutely trying to destroy it’s poorest citizens…indeed, I think they focus on poor people, but I understand if that sounds paranoid.

    Cheers.

  77. 77.

    hamletta

    February 14, 2011 at 1:59 am

    Some kind person has put up the Starland Vocal Band’s version of An American Tune.

    It’s very formal, but I think it’s lovely.

  78. 78.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 1:59 am

    @hamletta:

    The one that really sticks with me is 1979 … the winner was Taste O’ Honey. Not that “Boogie-Oogie-Oogie” wasn’t a fucking great record, but really?

    Don’t get me started on the seventies.

    No, I mean, really, you do not want to get me started on the seventies. I’ve already done a massive rant on the Musical Atrocities of the Seventies. I’m sure several people here still have nightmares about it.

    .

  79. 79.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:00 am

    @hamletta: HALF AN HOUR? Oh, no, girl. I need him all. night. long.

    @MattR: Snort. That’s fuuuuuununny. P.S. Remote now works. Ta.

    @RossInDetroit: It’s just so unbearably bland and BORING while simultaneously being irritating. I don’t know how it manages that, but it does.

  80. 80.

    Comrade Luke

    February 14, 2011 at 2:05 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    It’s just so unbearably bland and BORING while simultaneously being irritating. I don’t know how it manages that, but it does

    Are we back to talking about Gaga again?

    :)

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 14, 2011 at 2:06 am

    @JGabriel:

    One word. Only one word.

    “Feelings”.

  82. 82.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:07 am

    @RossInDetroit:

    I think Guetta is really that nuts.

    Maybe. But I don’t think Guetta came up with the ideas and money for that LA art show all on his own. There was just too much money floating around there. Even with a second mortgage on his home (and no reason to believe the first was paid off), he wouldn’t have enough to hire 20 assistants. Unless Guetta had a huge unmentioned trust fund somewhere.

    .

  83. 83.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:10 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    “Feelings”.

    You just had to go there, didn’t you? Go tie a yellow ribbon ’round an old oak tree, motherfucker.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    .

  84. 84.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 2:10 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    GOS

    It’s just so unbearably bland and BORING while simultaneously being irritating. I don’t know how it manages that, but it does.

    There must have been many complaints that it was too dense, confusing and orange, so they went in the opposite direction. That’s an OK layout for my brother’s blog, which gets a short post every week, but for Kos, which posts high volume material all day, anyone who isn’t hanging there riding the F5 key is going to miss a lot.
    I think it’s a mistake and they’ll change things. or they plan to radically reduce the main blog volume and spin off subsidiary blogs, which wouldn’t be a bad idea.

  85. 85.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 2:15 am

    @JGabriel:

    Maybe. But I don’t think Guetta came up with the ideas and money for that LA art show all on his own. There was just too much money floating around there. Even with a second mortgage on his home (and no reason to believe the first was paid off), he wouldn’t have enough to hire 20 assistants. Unless Guetta had a huge unmentioned trust fund somewhere.

    Exactly. Who has tons of talented assistants and dough? Banksy and Fairey. What I’m unsure of is whether Guetta was in on the joke or a willing dupe. Not that it matters.
    And all of those collectors who paid big bucks at an unknown artist’s first show? It makes sense only if they knew they were actually buying works by established artists instead.
    Either way, the prank shows how outsider art becomes mainstreamed and co-opted. If that was the point, this was by far the best way to make it.

  86. 86.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 2:16 am

    @RossInDetroit:

    I think it’s a mistake and they’ll change things.

    Or they double down, leave things as they are, and lose a shit ton of their readership. From what I’ve observed Kossacks aren’t exactly the most patient or understanding lot.

  87. 87.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 14, 2011 at 2:19 am

    @JGabriel:

    The thing about that song, it’s about a guy coming home after a stint in the Big House.

    Somehow this got transformed, in our bizarre popular culture, into the hostages coming home from Iran. And soldiers coming home from whereever.

    Not that being in the Army isn’t like being in prison, mind you…

  88. 88.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:24 am

    @Comrade Luke: I could be! I just don’t get the hype about her. Hm. My words to describe how I feel about the new Kos are pretty much the same as how I feel about the Gaga Lady.

    Lawn. Kids. OFF!

    @RossInDetroit: If I were inclined to visit DKos, the new layout would completely change my mind about it. It’s just not inviting at all. Then again, I am not inclined to visit, so I guess I can just STFU.

    @Yutsano: Understatement–you made it.

    ETA: We haven’t had a good trashy music thread for awhile. Let’s go!

  89. 89.

    RossInDetroit

    February 14, 2011 at 2:31 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Let’s go!

    To sleep. It’s 2.5 hours into Monday morning here.
    ‘Night, all.

  90. 90.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:33 am

    @RossInDetroit: Well, harrumph. You’re no fun. Night!

  91. 91.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 2:34 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Hmm…this could be interesting. I’m losing myself in an anime I realized I never finished for no good reason. So I’m indulging that as well as commenting. Multi-tasking, I haz it.

    And Lexie is dead on my bed. Lord she even sleeps cute. Tomorrow I make her first appointment to the kitteh doc.

  92. 92.

    MattR

    February 14, 2011 at 2:34 am

    @RossInDetroit: I think I’m in the same boat. Gotta be well rested for my dentist appointment.

  93. 93.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:38 am

    @Yutsano: Uh, oh. Is this THE appointment?

    @MattR: Well, phooey. Night to you, too. And, BALLS!

  94. 94.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 14, 2011 at 2:41 am

    Thanks to everyone who was posting about dog and cat vet issues the other night. I just got back from the emergency vet — and I felt reassured that I should spring into action because of that thread. Our old cat, who has had a LOT of health issues over the last year and a half… this time it was urinary tract stuff, so we got antibiotics… and a fact sheet that said it was important not to delay treatment for such things. Glad to have been reading about the virtues of quick action and emergency vet care here.

  95. 95.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:42 am

    @asiangrrlMN: I’m up, but I don’t know for how much longer. (And suddenly I’m thinking that sounds like the opening line of a CiaIis ad.)

    Anyway, I wish we’d thought of doing a music thread a few hours earlier…

    .

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 2:44 am

    @JGabriel:

    Anyway, I wish we’d thought of doing a music thread a few hours earlier…

    There is always tomorrow. We’re not under any sort of time crunch here after all.

  97. 97.

    Ruckus

    February 14, 2011 at 2:44 am

    Just found out tonight a guy I used to work with died in a vehicle accident. One of those larger than life types. Having changed careers I have mostly lost touch with a lot of the people I knew. I only found out because the estate is auctioning off his extensive motorcycle and parts inventory and the sale was posted on a site I check out every so often. He was driven by things I don’t think I’ll every understand but he was a good guy. He was 46 and had ridden over a half a million miles on motorcycles in 30 years. Not sure but I think he had visited every state on a motorcycle. It feels strange for some reason, for we were not good friends, just acquaintances. If we had not worked at the same place I’m sure we would not have ever met. And yet I feel the world is a worse place for him being gone.

  98. 98.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:49 am

    @FlipYrWhig: Yay. I’m glad you got your cat in to get checked and to get the proper meds.

    @JGabriel: Wot Yutsy said. And, remember, if your erection lasts for more than four hours–call me!

    @Ruckus: I’m sorry for your loss. It’s sobering to hear of a death, especially of someone who lived life so fully. My condolences.

  99. 99.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:50 am

    @Yutsano:

    There is always tomorrow.

    Valentine’s Day? It’s so sad that we know we’ll all be here.

    .

  100. 100.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 2:53 am

    @JGabriel: Well, technically, it’s V-Day now, so tomorrow, it’ll be the day after! Better?

    @JGabriel: Night!

  101. 101.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:54 am

    Have a happy holiday, y’all. I’m fading and outta here for the evening.

    .

  102. 102.

    JGabriel

    February 14, 2011 at 2:55 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Yes, sweetie. All better.

    .

  103. 103.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 2:58 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Heh. I shouldn’t tell you about the conversation I had with the New York Dawg tonight. It was tempting to let a four letter L word slip. And you know full damn well I NEVER use that word. And I am very anti-Valentine’s Day. Fuck only one day to express your affection for someone.

  104. 104.

    Allan

    February 14, 2011 at 2:58 am

    Grammies to Bieber: Fuck You.

  105. 105.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 3:03 am

    @JGabriel: Sweet dreams.

    @Yutsano: Damn you and your Dawgs! I can’t keep them straight (pun semi-intended).

    @Allan: So, are you telling me that he got shut out? Plz plz plz!

  106. 106.

    sherifffruitfly

    February 14, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Seriously? People still watch the Grammys?

  107. 107.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 14, 2011 at 3:10 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Thx scads…

  108. 108.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 3:13 am

    @asiangrrlMN: They’re both alike and both quite different. I think I’m just gravitating to one because, well, he’s around. Not as in Seattle around (He’s in DC) but still I keep up at least semi-regular contact. I didn’t think that would be so important.

  109. 109.

    Calouste

    February 14, 2011 at 3:13 am

    @Martin:

    I have to page down 15 times to just cross the 3 front page stories.

    I don’t think that particular item is anything knew on the Kos. They have a couple of frontpagers who are too dense/up their own arse to put a fold in multikiloword posts.

  110. 110.

    Lysana

    February 14, 2011 at 3:14 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    So, are you telling me that he got shut out? Plz plz plz!

    Yes, the Biebs lost. All of his nominations were for naught.

    The pity is that he lost Best New Artist. Now he’ll keep turning up like the world’s shittiest penny.

  111. 111.

    Allan

    February 14, 2011 at 3:14 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Zero for however many nominations he had. Poor kid. I hope his mom locks the medicine chest so he doesn’t OD on St. Joseph’s aspirin.

    Best commercial placement of the night: during the opening Aretha tribute, everyone was saying, Wow, Jennifer Hudson’s lost a lot of weight. First commercial break? Jennifer Hudson for Weight Watchers.

  112. 112.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 3:15 am

    @Yutsano: That makes sense. Proximity DOES help. You go with your bad self!

  113. 113.

    sherifffruitfly

    February 14, 2011 at 3:21 am

    Hey it’s valentine’s day! Awesome – tomorrow I can go look for a new gf.

    (Never get a new gf just *before* vt day.)

  114. 114.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 3:27 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Yeah well I still ain’t THAT easy. There are still other matters that have to be addressed between us. But at least a biggie is dead and buried now. I have a couple of psychological hang-ups of my own to handle as well. One involves the age gap. Let’s just say it’s almost a Bieber unit.

  115. 115.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 3:29 am

    @Lysana: Aw. I kinda feel bad for him. He’s not a bad kid.

    @Allan: Poor Justin. First heartache at such a young age. JH: Funny.

    @Yutsano: You do like ’em young, don’t you? And, no you’re not easy. Good things rarely are.

  116. 116.

    Yutsano

    February 14, 2011 at 3:35 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Oh shush. That has nothing to do with it. Don’t make me whistle innocently.

    EDIT: Still cold fighting, so crashing early. Night y’all.

  117. 117.

    Anne Laurie

    February 14, 2011 at 3:38 am

    @Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther:

    Have all of Donny’s children been accounted for?

    One of the few things I know for sure about Donny is that he’s Mormon, so I assume all his children are accounted for even unto the seventh generation, yea verily.

    @RossInDetroit:

    There must have been many complaints that it was too dense, confusing and orange, so they went in the opposite direction… I think it’s a mistake and they’ll change things. or they plan to radically reduce the main blog volume and spin off subsidiary blogs, which wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    As I said in an earlier thread, my ADD brain never could read the old layout, so I definitely appreciate the change. And since Gawker’s layout has just gone in the opposite direction, I have some free time to pick up a new blog. Speaking of Nick Denton, yes, splitting DKos into a main blog with half-a-dozen specialty subs wouldn’t be a bad idea for Markos to imitate either.

  118. 118.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 3:39 am

    @Yutsano: Heh. You do that so well!

    OK. I’m outie. Night, all.

  119. 119.

    Anne Laurie

    February 14, 2011 at 3:43 am

    @sherifffruitfly:

    People still watch the Grammys?

    There’s a new crop of sixteen-year-olds every year, desperate for more of This Year’s Flavor. Plus a lot of too-old-to-barhop hipsters who need something to mock while they’re doing the laundry and/or icing the ‘weekend warrior’ sports injuries.

  120. 120.

    Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)

    February 14, 2011 at 4:11 am

    Rescue dog Spencer’s Sunday afternoon. (warning! super high-impact action!)

  121. 121.

    JenJen

    February 14, 2011 at 4:17 am

    @Comrade Luke:

    I think I like the Mumford & Sons/Avett Brothers/Dylan medley and Eminem/Dre/Rhianna medleys the best

    Adored both, and also Rhianna’s reprise with “What’s My Name.” Thought Mumford had a lock on Best New Artist, but it’s an alleged curse (see: Lauryn Hill and I loved her too) so what do I know.

  122. 122.

    Anne Laurie

    February 14, 2011 at 5:14 am

    @Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel): Hee! Poor embarrassed Spencer. Y’all gotta send me some Basenji video (preferably with ‘chortling’) for an Early Morning Pet Post…

  123. 123.

    Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)

    February 14, 2011 at 5:43 am

    @Anne Laurie: Ha! He does seem perpetually mortified by his absurd mum and dad.

    I’ll have to catch ’em after a long day at work. They scold me with chortling wooooos!

    I hope to get all three howling in chorus some day. I never have my camera when they do. They sound like tornado sirens. Ill-used, woefully underfed tornado sirens.

  124. 124.

    debbie

    February 14, 2011 at 8:20 am

    I think I like the Mumford & Sons/Avett Brothers/Dylan medley and Eminem/Dre/Rhianna medleys the best

    Agreed, especially the raucous cello, though I couldn’t figure out how he was holding it up off the ground. I saw no straps.

  125. 125.

    Legalize

    February 14, 2011 at 8:39 am

    I’m not a huge fan of Arcade Fire’s newest record, but goddamn they blew the doors off the televised old-folks-home-talent-show, i.e. the Grammys.

  126. 126.

    apathy

    February 14, 2011 at 9:10 am

    You haven’t seen the deep transcendental power of the Bieber, which is carefully hidden, Davinci Code Style but is being translated.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M

  127. 127.

    MonkeyBoy

    February 14, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Help me, Cheesus.

    Bieber lost, Cheese and Crackers got all muddy!

  128. 128.

    Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther

    February 14, 2011 at 10:25 am

    @Anne Laurie: So what I hear you saying is that even if we don’t know yet that Justin is Donny’s son — God does.

  129. 129.

    dlw32

    February 14, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Have to disagree on Mumford & Sons/Avett Brothers/Dylan. I thought M&S and Avett were great and I’ve loved Dylan all the way back from when I’d listen to my sister’s scratchy 45’s but Dylan was awful. He wrecked that song (a classic).

    Someone needs to tell Dylan that at some point the king no longer goes out to fight with the army… he leaves that to the younger folk who don’t embarrass themselves trying to lift an axe.

  130. 130.

    Citizen_X

    February 14, 2011 at 11:41 am

    A bit late to the party (because, who gives a fuck about a goddam Grammy?), but here’s something ABL should appreciate: angry Bieberites stormed Esperanza Spalding’s wikipedia page, writing in things like, “JUSTIN BIEBER DESERVED IT GO DIE IN A HOLE. WHO THE HECK ARE YOU ANYWAY?”

  131. 131.

    asiangrrlMN

    February 14, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    @Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel): Aw, Spencer’s such a cutie. Lotsa action on your couch, I see.

  132. 132.

    Angry Black Lady

    February 14, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    @Citizen_X: hahaha. bieber fans are mental.

  133. 133.

    Paul in KY

    February 14, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    @gbear: Aieieieie, now I have it in my brain!!! Thanks alot. How about ‘Surfing Bird’, hopefully you’ll get that one in your head.

  134. 134.

    Paul in KY

    February 14, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    @Angry Black Lady: Don’t feel sorry for him. I’m pretty sure he has a huge pile of money from his early 80s hits & a bunch of grammys to use as door stops.

  135. 135.

    Paul in KY

    February 14, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    @Comrade Luke: I thought Mr. Dylan looked fairly close to death. Could have done without him.

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