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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Cold Winter Coming

Cold Winter Coming

by Tim F|  February 24, 20118:30 pm| 20 Comments

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As expected, the Swiss will hold onto the Libyan dictator’s buried acorns for a while.

Meanwhile, he still has a sizable army but it’s backed into the Tripoli area and he’s hemorrhaging friends at an unsustainable rate. Qaddafi’s regime is tracing an obvious death spiral. It is all the more tragic that so many decent Libyans had to die first.

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  1. 1.

    Mark S.

    February 24, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Good riddance. Qaddafi is a terrible dictator and will deserve his bloody end.

  2. 2.

    jk

    February 24, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Interesting story from Global Post

    Is Libya using Italian equipment to strafe protesters?
    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/italy/110223/libya-protests-weapons

  3. 3.

    Roger Moore

    February 24, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    As expected, the Swiss will hold onto the Libyan dictator’s buried acorns for a while.

    This brings up an unrelated topic. If, as the neocons say, we need to throw some small country against the wall once a decade to show we mean business, could we pretty please make the next country we invade an off-shore tax haven/money laundering center? That way we’d actually get some real benefit from our military adventurism, not just a big bill.

  4. 4.

    General Stuck

    February 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Though I bet the families of the Lockerbie tragedy are delighting in the what goes around comes around department of poetic justice.

  5. 5.

    Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther

    February 24, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I’ve only been able to barely keep up, and it’s felt like every time I check in, there’s some fresh horror.

    I know a lot of folks have been enjoying how CRAZY Gaddafi is and his OUTFITS and his MEANDERING SPEECHES and what not, and I all I can think is: Not funny. Dude’s a psychopath, killing as many people as he can as his final act to 4 decades of horror and misery.

    Not funny….

  6. 6.

    Jim, Once

    February 24, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    @Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther: I couldn’t agree more. Did you or anybody else listen to the NPR phone interview with a 58-year-old Libyan businessman sitting in the main square of ??? with protesters who were being fired on. It was absolutely chilling. I’ll see if I can find a link.

  7. 7.

    jl

    February 24, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Is it the Libyan army, or Qaddafi’s praetorian guard and mercenaries that are around Tripoli?

    The military seems to be neutral or for revolt.

  8. 8.

    Jim, Once

    February 24, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    @Jim, Once: Here’s the NPR link:

  9. 9.

    Jim, Once

    February 24, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    @Jim, Once:

    Or … not. What’s going on with the edit, anyway?

    http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2011/02/20110224_atc_13.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1126&surl=http%3A//www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/npratc.html&f=module-2

  10. 10.

    PeakVT

    February 24, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    @Jim, Once: That was incredible. Talk about the fog of war…

  11. 11.

    4tehlulz

    February 24, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    @jl: Regardless of whether the army backs the regime, Gaddafi obviously doesn’t trust them.

    You would think someone that’s managed to last this long would know that’s when you pack your bags, but whatever.

  12. 12.

    Little Boots

    February 24, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    @4tehlulz:

    from what I’ve read there’s no “army” but a series of divisions loyal to different officers for one reason or another, purposely kept from having any kind of real leadership except the King of Culture himself. (not that I’ve read much, really.)

  13. 13.

    Elisabeth

    February 24, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Britain’s keeping the billions Gaddafi had there, as well.

  14. 14.

    joe from Lowell

    February 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Man, that guy must be sorry he ever ran for Governor of Wisconsin.

  15. 15.

    Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther

    February 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @Jim, Once: I heard some parts of it, and just… oy.

    The most telling piece of information I heard (yesterday morning) on NPR though was when they interviewed a foreigner who was still there, in Tripoli, teaching (English, I think). He said that most of the shops had closed and so on, but parts of life were limping along as usual, and that the oddest thing he’d ever experienced was standing in a classroom, nine hours day, teaching, and not ONE person mentioned what was going on outside. Not one.

    That’s real fear, and it’s deep.

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    General Stuck

    February 24, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    @joe from Lowell:

    He’s become the Ned Beatty of American Politics.

    Anybody know a good banjo tune?

  17. 17.

    El Cid

    February 24, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Unfortunately, it appears just as impossible as ever that small meetings, much less mass protests, would go on in Zimbabwe.

    More hideous repression from independence-leader-turned-absolute-freak-tyrant Robet Mugabe:

    Forty-six people in Zimbabwe have been charged with treason, and some allegedly beaten by police, after watching videos of the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia
    __
    The activists, trade unionists and students were at a meeting on Saturday titled Revolt in Egypt and Tunisia: What lessons can be learnt by Zimbabwe and Africa?, when it was raided by police who seized a video projector, two DVDs and a laptop.
    __
    The group was detained in police cells and transferred to a notorious maximum security prison on Wednesday night. Treason can be punishable by death in Zimbabwe.

    Another report in the Irish Times holds that the meeting was held by the International Soshullist Organization, and this is also stated by the independent Harare-based Newsday, which goes on to say that the general coordinator has been tortured for the meeting to get a confession of treason.

    There’s also speculation in Zimbabwe (SWradioafrica dot com) that some of the mercenaries sent to Libya to attack protesters were from the Zimbabwean army. The defense minister hedged on the question when asked in Parliament.

    Gossip there that Zimbabwe might be the destination of Qaddafi if he skips out is pretty realistic. A number of deposed tyrants and assorted slaughterers have found safety there.

    Though just gossip, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s one of the nations whose government would welcome him and of course would in no way care about complaints of war crimes or extradition or whatever.

  18. 18.

    General Stuck

    February 24, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    @jl:

    From what I can understand, the army has split and half the country, including the capitol has been liberated. Qadaffi and his mercs and loyalists are holed up in Tripoli that is mostly cut off from supplies like food and water, and are likely becoming more desperate and bloody thirsty by the minute for a last hurrah. Tripoli is becoming the asshole of the earth and god help anyone trapped there.

  19. 19.

    Mental Lint

    February 24, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Qaddafi is trying hard to become Lanny Davis’s newest client

  20. 20.

    Hypnos

    February 25, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Lybia’s 25% of Italian oil consumption, 10% of Spain’s, 10% of France’s. And said oil has just been completely shut off, said Italy’s oil company ENI CEO.

    No one is making any noises – besides some talks of no-fly zones – but I really don’t think half of the EU’s GDP is just going to sit there and take it. Especially when two of those three countries have such wonderful deficit situations and could reignite the euro-debt crisis in a spectacular way.

    We haven’t seen the half of it.

    And if Algeria goes under as well, ’79 will look like a party in comparison.

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