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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / You Can’t Blame DADT For This

You Can’t Blame DADT For This

by John Cole|  February 26, 20115:46 pm| 104 Comments

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This made me laugh:

The USS Green Bay deploys on her maiden voyage.

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  1. 1.

    joe from Lowell

    February 26, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    God didn’t make Cheddar and Steve…

  2. 2.

    PurpleGirl

    February 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    LOL. I hope he doesn’t get into too much trouble for doing that. But it was inspired.

  3. 3.

    mai naem

    February 26, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    That isn’t cheddar. That’s swiss cheese with lots of holes in it something the ship better not have.

  4. 4.

    bleh

    February 26, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    No, you’re right. This clearly was due to Michelle Obama’s advocacy of breast-feeding.

  5. 5.

    cleek

    February 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Edam and Steve!

  6. 6.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    @PurpleGirl: I’ll bet you a $20:

    A) that’s a Dawg dressed like that

    B) he got a few extra duty shifts for it. But if you ask him it was worth it.

  7. 7.

    Three-nineteen

    February 26, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Well, he is in uniform.

  8. 8.

    Loneoak

    February 26, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Give that sailor a medal for courage.

  9. 9.

    burnspbesq

    February 26, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I’m willing to bet that was cleared pretty far up the chain of command, or it wouldn’t have happened.

  10. 10.

    MAJeff

    February 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Expressing solidarity with cheeseheads the last couple weeks has been soooooooo fucking trying for this Minnesota boy, but I’ve been down with the labor effort. This, though, just makes me smile.

    But, still, fuck the Packers.

  11. 11.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    @Yutsano: Looks like the photo was taken by a military person and it’s on the official web site, so I would guess the cheesehead is in no trouble at all, given that the pic could have been easily disappeared.

    Wow, dreadfully incomplete report on Wisconsin on the CBC. Shame.

  12. 12.

    jwb

    February 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    @Comrade Mary: What did the CBC report on Wisconsin?

  13. 13.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    @burnspbesq: @Comrade Mary: You’re both probably right, especially since they are in fleet formation. And that is almost never messed around with. It does make me giggle that the Marines are all smirking and the sailors look so damn serious. So that suggests it may have been their conspiracy.

  14. 14.

    Penon

    February 26, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    It’s the military equivalent of adorable.

  15. 15.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    @Yutsano: You’ve got better eyes than I do if you can see the expressions on more than the first two.

  16. 16.

    ppcli

    February 26, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    @jwb: Sorry to hear that – the CBC normally gives more substantive, informative, and, well, just better reports on U.S. politics than the U.S. networks do. Where did they go off the rails on this one?

  17. 17.

    BGinCHI

    February 26, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    They all look the same to me. I prefer to judge cheeseheads and jarheads by the content of their character and not the color of their dairy products.

  18. 18.

    pointer

    February 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    O… K. I’m from outside the U.S. Can someone please tell me why that man has a piece of cheese on his head?

  19. 19.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    @jwb: Sorry, it was just a brief report at the top of the news hour on the radio. Labour protesting, Walker saying he’s doing it to save money, lots of marches in various cities, assembly passed the bill the other days, people still marching.

    No mention that the Senate hasn’t passed it and that the Senators are out of state, so it looks like futile protests for a done deed to most Canadians, as provinces here usually have a single assembly or legislature as government, versus your assembly/senate setup.

  20. 20.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    @ppcli: I can’t find anything on Wisconsin on the website, which is disappointing.

    @stuckinred: A girl I work with says I have really sharp eyes too. Thank my optometrist. Although I can’t quite tell what he’s got over his left shoulder.

  21. 21.

    MattR

    February 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Although I can’t quite tell what he’s got over his left shoulder.

    That’s Aaron Rodgers’s championship belt.

  22. 22.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    @Yutsano: He’s got shoulder pads on.

  23. 23.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Only one state down here has a unicameral legislative body: Nebraska. Otherwise the rest are modeled after the set-up of our national government. It would be a bit strange to have provincial Senators that act like your Senate does in each province. And I say that as a distant relative of one.

  24. 24.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    @Comrade Mary: FYWP.

    Anyway, Q with Jian Ghomeshi yesterday FINALLY had a segment on the poor coverage of Wisconsin up here, featuring his usual leftist, rightist, and squishy centrist. It was pretty dissatisfying in itself, especially as Judy Rebick spoke first (and cogently) but barely came back after Margaret Wente’s #spit# bullshit, and the centrist played the role of Canuck Bobo. The segment barely limped to an end. I only listen on Friday’s for Elvira Kurt, anyway.

  25. 25.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    @pointer: Green Bay Packer fans are known as cheese heads because Wisconsin is the dairy state. The hat is a replica of a wedge of cheese.

  26. 26.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    @Yutsano: Heh. First, they’d have to be near-dead or a broadcast “journalism” washup, or both.

    Care to namedrop who your famous relative is?

    (And to my main point: I think the Canadian setup makes sense to us, which is why the reporting for even a brief newscast was weak, because most Canadians are ignorant of state-level government in the U.S.)

  27. 27.

    Baud

    February 26, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    John, you obviously haven’t learned a thing. We can blame the gays for EVERYTHING.

  28. 28.

    Sly

    February 26, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    In further uplifting news, Fianna Fail, the center-right party in Ireland, just suffered an electoral implosion today. It looks like around two thirds of their members are being tossed out, which might be the biggest single defeat of any political party in the history of representative democracy.

  29. 29.

    burnspbesq

    February 26, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Irish election results: Fianna Fail crashes and burns in a very big way. Fine Gael gets first crack at forming a government. Will probably end up with a FG/Labour coalition, which will be really interesting since both parties pledged to renegotiate the IMF/ECB austerity deal.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/8349497/Irelands-new-government-on-a-collision-course-with-EU.html

  30. 30.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    @Comrade Mary: We share a common Quebecois surname, and he is from that province and was just appointed to the Senate. I’m trying to name drop without actually name dropping because I can be rather easily traced by surname in the US. I will name drop that the Dionne quintuplets are distant cousins of mine. And my great-grandfather was an illegal immigrant from Canada.

  31. 31.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    @burnspbesq: I’ll break out the popcorn. This could indeed get delicious. And I bet there will be some major banker fee-fees hurt when all is said and done.

  32. 32.

    Bnut

    February 26, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Why the fuck are piss cutters still regulation covers? They look so fucking stupid, esp with some BCG’s on. Ug.

  33. 33.

    burnspbesq

    February 26, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    @Sly:

    fianna Fail wrote the instruction manual for corruption and crony capitalism. Shinawatra, Berlusconi, and Jack Abramoff pale by comparison.

  34. 34.

    Mental Lint

    February 26, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    The USS Green Bay is the Navy’s first walleye trawler

  35. 35.

    Sly

    February 26, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    As Irish voters headed for the polling booths on Friday, the European Commission bluntly declared that the terms of the EU-IMF bailout “must be applied” whatever the will of Ireland’s people or regardless of any change of government.
    …
    “It is not even take it or leave it. It’s done. Ireland’s only role in this now is to implement the programme agreed with the EU, IMF and European Central Bank. Irish voters are not a party in this process, whatever they have been told,” said the diplomat.

    Jesus Christ, but the EU has some set of fucking balls.

  36. 36.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    @Bnut: Because shut up that’s why!!

    (Actually I agree with you. I’ve never liked those damn things.)

  37. 37.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    @Yutsano: Ahh. I will very, very discreetly Google, figure it out, and quietly clutch the knowledge to myself. Shhh ….

    Sly and burnspbesq, may I please introduce you to Tories, Party of Two? Which, in retrospect, was actually a fucking disaster, because the limp remnants of the
    Progressive Conservatives (not such an oxymoron, really, in the Canadian context) done got et by Reform, which gave us today’s Conservative party and Harper, clinging to minority status out of Canadian caution and a dearth of remotely appealing and competent Liberal leaders.

    Bonus point: the Tory PM who lost big was Kim Campbell, who acquitted herself honourably on Maher’s show recently. I really do miss our Red Tories.

  38. 38.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    @Bnut: c@nt caps!

  39. 39.

    arguingwithsignposts

    February 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    @Sly:

    “It is not even take it or leave it. It’s done. Ireland’s only role in this now is to implement the programme agreed with the EU, IMF and European Central Bank. Irish voters are not a party in this process, whatever they have been told,” said the diplomat.

    Wow. Just wow.

  40. 40.

    ppcli

    February 26, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Ah, yes, the 1993 election. After which, everyone I know was joking “Who would have thought that it would be the Conservatives who would first attain gender parity in the House.”

    @Yutsano: Oh, oh, I think I’ve figured it out! But don’t worry – if I’m right, I’ll never let the name come from the woods.

  41. 41.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    @ppcli: Hehehehe. I sent all the Canuckistani BJers on an Easter Egg hunt! I could drop more hints but that would make it too easy.

  42. 42.

    burnspbesq

    February 26, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Sinn Fein is having its best election ever. Gerry Adams won a first-ballot rout in Louth. FG should include SF in the coalition just so it can send Gerry to Brussels to knock heads.

  43. 43.

    Napoleon

    February 26, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    I hope Ireland tears that agreement up and tell the EU, IMF and ECB to go fuck themselves.

    Please, oh please do it!

  44. 44.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    @ppcli: Malin!

  45. 45.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    February 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Iowa?

  46. 46.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Iowa has 4 turnovers in their first 4 possessions against Illinois!

  47. 47.

    jk

    February 26, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Keith Olbermensch’s new website
    http://foknewschannel.com

  48. 48.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    February 26, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    @stuckinred:

    Which is what happens when football school plays basketball school.

  49. 49.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Yea, well the Illini have been a very borderline basketball school for a few years now.

  50. 50.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    The edit function appears to be seriously broken!

  51. 51.

    suzanne

    February 26, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    LMMFAO.

    So my job interview on Thursday afternoon went so well that I have a second interview on Monday morning with the principal of the office. I am hopeful. Pleeeeeeez think good thoughts for me.

  52. 52.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    @suzanne: Knock em dead.

  53. 53.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    @stuckinred: It’s not seriously broken. It’s fucked. That’s a fine distinction, but a real one.

  54. 54.

    Comrade Mary

    February 26, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    @suzanne: Good thoughts? Done! Relax and have fun during the interview.

  55. 55.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    @Comrade Mary: I said goddamn!

  56. 56.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    February 26, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    @stuckinred:

    So is Illinois now a…Rowing school? Fencing? I know it isn’t hockey.

  57. 57.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    @suzanne: You shall indeed be brilliant and bold. And fuck em if they don’t figure that out.

  58. 58.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): When I left 26 years ago Hockey was a club sport. We did win our bowl game.

  59. 59.

    burnspbesq

    February 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Greetings from NY. I now understand why folks in this time zone hate 9:00 games.

  60. 60.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    @burnspbesq: no chit

  61. 61.

    suzanne

    February 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Thanks, y’all. I have already picked out my outfit. Made easier by the fact that I have lost all my baby weight and fit in all but my slimmest-cut clothes. I am hoping that my Tina Fey-good looks will compensate for my horrible personality. ;)

  62. 62.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    @suzanne: That was pretty quick on the weight, be careful.

  63. 63.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    @suzanne: When it comes to gaining employment, I say use whatever trick and wile you can. And as long as you look and sound like Tina Fey and not her doppleganger (who shall remain nameless) you’ll be awesome.

  64. 64.

    MikeJ

    February 26, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    I toured this ship last year at SeaFair. They were still on shakedown, but it was pretty neat. Very into the whole Green Bay thing. They have Packers logos everywhere, which I thought odd for a navy vessel, and the main passageways that run fore and aft are named stuff like “Lomabardy way” (or something like that, I don’t remember exactly what).

  65. 65.

    Cat Lady

    February 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    @Sly:

    Fianna Fail FAIL.

    Someone had to say that per internet tradition, so it might as well be me.

  66. 66.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    @MikeJ: Looks like the grandaughter of my dad’s APD!

  67. 67.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    February 26, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    @stuckinred:

    Which bowl game was that?

  68. 68.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): Baylor, Texas Bowl. They had about 50,000 fans there. After the game the Baylor QB blamed the lights!

  69. 69.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): 38-14

  70. 70.

    Poopyman

    February 26, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    @Napoleon: As do I, although this is a fight the Irish could well lose. Of course, that’s never NEVER stopped an Irishman from fighting. So sez this 7/8ths Conaughtman.

    I really wonder if telling the EU to piss off would really be that big a blow, given the problems in the other member countries.

  71. 71.

    MikeJ

    February 26, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Packer capstans on the Green Bay.
    View of the ship as a whole.

  72. 72.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    @MikeJ: The USS Crosby,

  73. 73.

    Poopyman

    February 26, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    @suzanne: Only two days between interviews? It appears that you hardly need our good wishes.

    Knock ’em dead, anyway.

  74. 74.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    @MikeJ: That is really kinda cool. And that is a pretty boat. I also have a neat view of the main Seattle port from my work. It’s fun to watch the lights at night when they unload a ship.

  75. 75.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    @Yutsano: That is no boat!

  76. 76.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    ships have to be big enough to carry boats, and boats have to be small enough to be carried by ships.

  77. 77.

    Maude

    February 26, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    @suzanne:
    Just be yourself. Usually the interviewer is more nervous than you.
    If the job is right for you, you’ll get it.

  78. 78.

    MikeJ

    February 26, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    @stuckinred: Unless they’re submarines, which are massive these days, but still called boats.

    And my dad still talks about “flying out to the boat”, but I think that was more an air crew/ship’s company thing.

  79. 79.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    @MikeJ: Proly so. Frickin subs are not just big, they go about 70mph!

  80. 80.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    I was in the Mekong Delta where they had PBR’s, Patrol Boat, River and Swift Boats.

  81. 81.

    Poopyman

    February 26, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Filed under “Well, DUH!”:

    1:25am
    __
    Henry Schuler, former US diplomat, tells Al Jazeera that the Obama administration “inherited a terrible situation created by the Bush administration in letting Gaddafi off the hook in 2004”.
    __
    “Time will tell whether that was accomplished based on a clear assessment of US interests, or to get the oil companies back into Libya, or to promote the re-election campaign of George W Bush.
    __
    “It’s a fool’s errand if anyone thinks sanctions will persuade Gaddafi to back off. He said he will shed his last drop of blood on Libyan soil. What the US should be doing is ensuring that as little as possible other Libyan blood is shed.”

  82. 82.

    Bnut

    February 26, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    @stuckinred: It’s a space station.

  83. 83.

    stuckinred

    February 26, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    @Bnut: I sure as hell wouldn’t want to see it coming at me!

  84. 84.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    February 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    @Bnut:

    It’s a dessert topping AND a floor wax!

  85. 85.

    Nellcote

    February 26, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    @Sly:

    Irish voters are not a party in this process, whatever they have been told,” said the diplomat.

    Well, that certainly doesn’t sound very diplomatic to me.

  86. 86.

    General Stuck

    February 26, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    I plan to chew off my leg and escape.

  87. 87.

    General Stuck

    February 26, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    @General Stuck:

    above comment in wrong thread. figures the way day has gone.

  88. 88.

    Calouste

    February 26, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    @Sly:

    The EU has fucking big balls on that because every single fucking major Irish party, up to and including the Greens, has refused to commit to increasing their low tax rates on companies. The rest of the EU is willing to help the Irish people, they’re just not willing to help American companies using tax breaks in the RoI. Even Angela Merkel said that the Irish should raise their taxes.

  89. 89.

    scav

    February 26, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    @General Stuck: seems generally applicable to me.

  90. 90.

    Davis X. Machina

    February 26, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    @burnspbesq: Better than the post-Mulroney Conservative implosion? I think they shrank to like two seats.

    (Shoulda read the whole thread…)

  91. 91.

    Bnut

    February 26, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    For those who don’t know, the cheesehead is wearing the offical US Navy camo fatigues. I can’t help but think of Zubazs….

  92. 92.

    The Sheriff's A Ni-

    February 26, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    @stuckinred: I’ll see you a USS Rodgers.

  93. 93.

    IndyLib

    February 26, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Way the hell late to the thread, and someone else may have pointed these details out already, but the Cheesehead is wearing grey digital cammo pants, so he’s Navy. And there’s a very good chance he had permission to dress like that. Believe it or not a lot of Navy commands aren’t as uptight as you might think. My husband has attended command events in a Darth Vader costume more times than I would like to admit.

  94. 94.

    Yutsano

    February 26, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    @IndyLib: So you had a special affection for the Darth Vader VW commercial then? :) The things my father wore in the Navy at times were, uhh, interesting. He still tells tales about the hazing he went through the first time he went through the Panama Canal. Not to mention when he made Master Chief.

  95. 95.

    IndyLib

    February 27, 2011 at 12:04 am

    @Yutsano: I did like the Darth Vader VW commercial, but he’s not allowed into the bedroom in that outfit.
    The Vader costume is nothing compared to the outfit they made him wear when during his lobsterback “ceremony”, bikinis and coconuts were involved.
    They didn’t do anything too scary to him when he made Master Chief – as least as far as clothing. He did get drunker than I’ve ever seen him.

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    February 27, 2011 at 12:12 am

    @IndyLib: My favorite hazing story of my father’s involves him dressing up like Tinkerbell. What’s really remarkable is that he got my mom to actually make it for him. I think that little piece of marital love is how she got her ninth horse.

  97. 97.

    IndyLib

    February 27, 2011 at 12:53 am

    I think that little piece of marital love is how she got her ninth horse.

    That’s too funny. Most of the really crazy dress-up stories come from times that my husband was deployed, so I haven’t gotten to witness most of them, but there’s usually someone willing to to furnish pics for bribes of homecooked food.

    The hazing stories from his Chief’s initiation are pretty nasty. They got locked in wooden boxes of ice, force fed Filipino fish sauce and chili peppers until they puked, got their butts beat with wooden paddles. He made Chief in 2003 which was the last year they permitted an actual hazing-ish initiation. Somebody (not at my husband’s command) whined big time and it’s much more mellow now. Bet he/she was not a popular person in the Chief’s Mess at his/her command.

  98. 98.

    Yutsano

    February 27, 2011 at 1:07 am

    @IndyLib: It happened when we were in Groton, so I remember my mom fitting him out for the splendid day. And yeah they both got trashed that night, which is unusual for them since they have an unspoken arrangement that one will stay sober enough to drive home.

    And the Marine in the foreground with the smirk just tears me. I might have to modify my earlier prediction and speculate the guy dressed up is a Navy Corpsman.

  99. 99.

    IndyLib

    February 27, 2011 at 1:23 am

    He’s definitely Navy, unless he stole the pants and most Jar Heads wouldn’t be caught dead in Navy digis.

  100. 100.

    Yutsano

    February 27, 2011 at 1:26 am

    @IndyLib: Then I’m going with Corpsman just because they seem like the type to pull a stunt like this. And honestly it is pretty damn funny.

  101. 101.

    IndyLib

    February 27, 2011 at 1:32 am

    It tickled me so much that I linked it to my husband on his ship in Japan.

  102. 102.

    Carol

    February 27, 2011 at 5:41 am

    @arguingwithsignposts: The EU might be next-I wonder how a vote to leave and start something else might go now, with this kind of arrogance. Latin America has already figured it out, Cuba (despite it’s poverty, is at least food self-sufficient), has figured out some elements.

  103. 103.

    Barry

    February 27, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    ““It is not even take it or leave it. It’s done. Ireland’s only role in this now is to implement the programme agreed with the EU, IMF and European Central Bank. Irish voters are not a party in this process, whatever they have been told,” said the diplomat.”

    Invite him by for negotiations, and then hang the negotiators in the Dublin square.

  104. 104.

    Jammie Holbein

    March 5, 2011 at 3:58 am

    Good post! gfmnvoiwngs

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