• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Let’s finish the job.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

There are no moderate republicans – only extremists and cowards.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires Republicans to act in good faith.

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

No Justins, No Peace

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Michigan is a great lesson for Dems everywhere: when you have power…use it!

Be a traveling stable for those who can’t find room at the inn.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Chutkan laughs. Lauro sits back down.

American History and Black History can not be separated.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

Bad news for Ron DeSantis is great news for America.

Mobile Menu

  • Four Directions Montana
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • COVID-19 Coronavirus
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • 2024 Elections
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • Targeted Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Open Threads / Big Crowd at the Ohio Statehouse today

Big Crowd at the Ohio Statehouse today

by Kay|  March 1, 201112:38 pm| 53 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

FacebookTweetEmail

I don’t have any numbers, but it’s good to see them.

Columbus Dispatch has it as “biggest rally yet”.

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « Affordable Care Act Alternatives
Next Post: Factoid Moment on the Death of the American Middle Class. »

Reader Interactions

53Comments

  1. 1.

    Violet

    March 1, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Wow! That’s some crowd. I’m so glad these protests are continuing. Keep the pressure up!

  2. 2.

    kay

    March 1, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    @Violet:

    They got an ex parte order to re-open the Wisconsin statehouse :)

  3. 3.

    Ivan Ivanovich Renko

    March 1, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Wonder if this crowd will make it onto a cable news network (yeah, I know, NFW Fox touches it)

  4. 4.

    Poopyman

    March 1, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Only slightly off–topic, in that it’s about Wisconsin:

    A judge has granted a temporary restraining order giving the public access to the state Capitol during business hours and while hearings and other state business are being heard.
    __
    The order appears to ease more restrictive policies outlined in a Monday night memo from Assembly Sergeant-at-Arms Anne Tonnon Byers but nothing had changed in terms of access as of 10:45 a.m.

    There’s more. Whoddathunk it’d require a restraining order to follow the explicit language in the WI constitution.

    ETA:
    @kay: Scooped again!

  5. 5.

    Nicole

    March 1, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Hooray!

    It’s not much, but on Monday afternoon one of the local public access stations in Harrisburg broadcast the entire rally from Saturday. And it was the lead story on the local news stations that Saturday evening.

  6. 6.

    mikefromArlington

    March 1, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Thanks Walker for uniting Dems in a way not seen since 2008!

    Everyone take a moment to thank Walker and his overreach.

  7. 7.

    trollhattan

    March 1, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Isn’t it interesting that the “spontaneous” teabag rallies last a few hours, then they follow some shiny object elsewhere, while these state rallies continue for days and even weeks? I blame it on poor battery life in their Hoverounds(tm).

  8. 8.

    David Koch

    March 1, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Sigh…

    This is not good.

  9. 9.

    Nicole

    March 1, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    @David Koch: I sincerely hope you do not take out your frustration on Maria.

  10. 10.

    Violet

    March 1, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    @kay:
    I just saw that headline on TPM. I hope the protesters retake the capitol. It is the people’s house, after all. Good for that judge.

  11. 11.

    Punchy

    March 1, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Here’s what I dont get: what’s the union’s end game? In normal politics, this much negative pub would get the gov to rescind this bill. Normal pols value their popularity. But these new breed of wingtards seem happy with their one-term fate, as long as they can wreak as much destruction as possible in that term. They’re seemingly immune to negative press cuz they just dont give a shit about anything other than Koch’s directives.

    IOW, what if this Walker clown just never, ever withdrawls the bill?

  12. 12.

    PopeRatzy

    March 1, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Last year it was all about the “will of the people” and “American people have spoken” now that the will of the people and the polls that show it are running against the Right those are no longer valid arguments.

    Hypocrites, the lot of them.

  13. 13.

    Legalize

    March 1, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    @Punchy:
    Recall, or very credibly threaten to recall, his flunky enablers in the legislature.

  14. 14.

    Geoduck

    March 1, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    @Punchy:
    Also, it sounds like the GOPers in the state senate, who have to actually vote on the bill, are less willing to jump off the cliff with him.

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    March 1, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    @Punchy: Pressure enough GOP State Senators to vote the bill down. There are enough targets, and you only need something like two or three to cave.

    dms

  16. 16.

    Linnaeus

    March 1, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    @Punchy:

    IOW, what if this Walker clown just never, ever withdrawls the bill?

    It may be necessary to take a short-term loss to engender a gain in the future. Use this situation to expose folks like Walker for who they are and set them up for defeat in the next round if you can’t reverse what they’re doing right now.

  17. 17.

    Alwhite

    March 1, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    @Punchy:

    I mentioned this in an earlier thread. These people do not care about governing, they do not care about doing good or doing well. They only care about serving their corporate masters. It will not hurt Walker if he brings the whole state down. 27% of the population will blame the Dems & Walker will get a fat gig in some think tank or lobby firm.

    This is a fight to the death and one side wants to sit down and talk about it reasonably while the other side lights the fuse. Which side is more likely to “win”?

  18. 18.

    jk

    March 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    OT

    The Real Charles Koch speaks out in WSJ
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704288304576170974226083178.html

  19. 19.

    Alwhite

    March 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    @Linnaeus:
    “short term loss”?

    You are familiar with the history of union organizing in America? How many ‘mining camps’ will have to be shot up, how many scabs will have to be buried to regain collective bargaining once it is lost?

  20. 20.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 1, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    @PopeRatzy:

    Last year it was all about the “will of the people” and “American people have spoken” now that the will of the people and the polls that show it are running against the Right those are no longer valid arguments

    Kind of like how we are all for democracy and elections in the ME until they democratically elect a government that doesn’t like us.

  21. 21.

    freelancer

    March 1, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    OT – Again,

    today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today: updated daily.

    Thank you, cleek.

  22. 22.

    Ash Can

    March 1, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    @David Koch: Hey, you still have Johnny Boehner, although I bet he’s nicking you for a pretty good sized bar tab. See if you can get Ann Althouse to talk him into drinking the cheap crap she drinks.

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 1, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Way O/T (sorry), but did y’all see that Frank Rich is leaving the NYTimes after 31 years? Going to New York Magazine.

    New York Times opinion columnist Frank Rich is leaving the newspaper after 31 years to join New York Magazine. Rich will join New York as an essayist beginning in June, where he will write monthly on politics and culture and serve as an editor-at-large. Rich will edit a monthly section anchored by his essay as well as deliver weekly commentary on NYMag.com, according to an announcement. His final Times column will run on March 13.

    Even more than my apology for going off topic, I apologize for the link. It’s to ::spit:: HuffPo.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/01/frank-rich-to-new-york-ma_n_829588.html

  24. 24.

    Poopyman

    March 1, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    There are no short term losses. Only a continuing assault on many fronts. Here’s another, this time on child labor laws.

  25. 25.

    Bulworth

    March 1, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    @Ivan Ivanovich Renko: They will touch it, if only to complain that the mob of hateful angry freeloading state worker bureaucrats hate them (Faux news).

  26. 26.

    Mattminus

    March 1, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    If it’s the biggest rally yet, I’d bet a bunch of teabaggers are getting choked by union thugs and NO THE VIDEO DIDN’T CAPTURE THAT PART!

  27. 27.

    Linnaeus

    March 1, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    @Alwhite:

    You are familiar with the history of union organizing in America? How many ‘mining camps’ will have to be shot up, how many scabs will have to be buried to regain collective bargaining once it is lost?

    I’m very, very familiar with such things, so I don’t make such statements lightly. I’m not saying that Scott Walker “winning” this round is desirable or that steps shouldn’t be taken to prevent that.

    What I am saying is that there is a distinct non-zero chance that Walker will get what he wants, and that liberals/progressives as a whole need to be prepared for that possibility and work to turn a setback into an advantage. Sometimes the bad guys do win, and you have to pick yourself up and try again next time. It won’t be easy and it won’t be fun, but what else can you do? Unless you’re like Michael Lind and you think we ultimately won’t have unions anymore anyway.

  28. 28.

    benintn

    March 1, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Let’s just say “there’s more than there were at the Tea Party Convention with Sarah Palin in 2010.”

  29. 29.

    The Thin Black Duke

    March 1, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Call me a pessimist, but don’t be surprised if the GOP’s Pretty Hate Machine begins constructing a narrative that goes like this: Governor Walker isn’t a “real” Republican, he’s an aberration. Vote for us again, and we’ll get it right next time. Promise.

  30. 30.

    Southern Beale

    March 1, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Just read Ohio is having a fetus testify before the state legislature.

    I’m so sick of the crazy crap going on in this country. Seriously sick of it. I’ve never wanted to live somewhere else so much in my entire life. I’ve sorta just washed my hands of this country.

  31. 31.

    Southern Beale

    March 1, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Also just read that Chris Dodd has been named head of the Motion Picture Assn. of America.

    I find that odd. Then again, maybe not. It’s a lobbyist’s job after all.

  32. 32.

    Linnaeus

    March 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I’m so sick of the crazy crap going on in this country. Seriously sick of it. I’ve never wanted to live somewhere else so much in my entire life. I’ve sorta just washed my hands of this country.

    I feel similarly; haven’t yet washed my hands, so to speak, but I’m sick of all of the bullshit. I’m just thankful that, for now, I live in a relatively less-crazy place.

  33. 33.

    Ruckus

    March 1, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    @jk:
    It really is not off topic. It is the basis for the topic.
    Everyone should read the piece.
    It explains very well the cancer that is the wealthy in this country. It’s all bullshit but he has the power to make his wish come true. He will get wealthier and we all will get much poorer.

  34. 34.

    Southern Beale

    March 1, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Fox reporter Mike Tobin lied about being punched by Wisconsin protestor.

    And now there’s video proving it.

    Assholes.

  35. 35.

    R-Jud

    March 1, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I’ve never wanted to live somewhere else so much in my entire life.

    Hmmm. Are you any good at home repairs? I could give you a place to crash for six months if you’re capable of helping me renovate my kitchen.

  36. 36.

    Southern Beale

    March 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    @R-Jud:

    Well, we just renovated our kitchen and it’s beautiful! But the only finger I lifted on that project was to write checks to my contractor.

    :-(

  37. 37.

    WoodyNYC

    March 1, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Yes, and todays (print) NYT has a big story on Bloomberg Incs new op-ed push:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/nyregion/01bloomberg.html?tntemail1=y&_r=1&emc=tnt&pagewanted=all

    Mayor Mike has hired away a bunch of NYT op-ed pagers for this.

  38. 38.

    geg6

    March 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    @Alwhite:

    Yeah, gotta say that the lack of any knowledge of the history of the union movement makes that post simply laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

  39. 39.

    geg6

    March 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    What? WHAT? WHAT THE FUCK!

    A goddam fetus is testifying? By what method, pray tell? (Can’t click the link for fear my head really will explode.)

  40. 40.

    joe from Lowell

    March 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    @Alwhite:

    How many ‘mining camps’ will have to be shot up, how many scabs will have to be buried to regain collective bargaining once it is lost?

    None. It will take some recall campaigns and the 2012 election cycle.

    It is possible that the Republicans in Wisconsin are willing to be suicide bombers. They might be able to ram through a law. Laws can be overturned, as long as the political fight is won.

  41. 41.

    Ash Can

    March 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    Just read Ohio is having a fetus testify before the state legislature.

    Just shoot me.

    As for the Fox “reporter,” hopefully that story, complete with debunking video, goes viral. The true believers will always truly believe, but if the rest of the populace can be convinced once and for all that Fox is a travesty through incidents like these, it’s all good in the long run.

  42. 42.

    Barb Hartwell

    March 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    @trollhattan:
    Good one

  43. 43.

    MattR

    March 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    @geg6: They are gonna show a webcast of an ultrasound being done on a 3 week old fetus and possibly gonna try and magnify the heartbeat so the legislators can hear it. Surprisingly, it will not be answering questions.

  44. 44.

    PaulW

    March 1, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    we are trying for statewide protests in Florida on March 8th.

    http://awakethestate.com/

    Spread the word.

  45. 45.

    kay

    March 1, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I can’t figure out the whole heartbeat bill. I can’t find it on the legislative reporter I use. It was due to be introduced on Valentine’s day.
    If they don’t put it up soon, I’m thinking it’s just entirely a PR stunt?

  46. 46.

    piratedan

    March 1, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    @mikefromArlington: just as soon as I get done denouncing Stalin and performing an act of civil disobedience regarding the broccoli mandate

  47. 47.

    Another Commenter at Balloon Juice (fka Bella Q)

    March 1, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    @geg6: Projected sonogram of course. Sigh. My head is about to asplode. In other OH news, SW OH tea partiers are not happy with the AOS# because he may allow the national debt limit to be raised. Cincinnati Enquirer

    #Actual Orange Satan(TM) as I call Boehner

  48. 48.

    Another Commenter at Balloon Juice (fka Bella Q)

    March 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    @MattR: Surely, if a fetus is sentient and has rights, it can be subjected to direct and cross examination. Jesus H. Christ on a cracker. These people are insane.

  49. 49.

    Linnaeus

    March 1, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    @geg6:

    Yeah, gotta say that the lack of any knowledge of the history of the union movement makes that post simply laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

    If you’re referring to my post at #16, please read my clarification at #27. I do know quite a bit about the history of labor movements in this country.

    I know that what’s going on in Wisconsin in other states is a big deal. Hell, I work for a labor union, and I’d love to see Walker be forced to back off on this one and then pay for it dearly in the next election cycle. But despite one’s best efforts, the Walkers of the world sometimes win the battle. Then you move to the next one, and see if you can win then. And sometimes you do. That’s how it’s always been, particularly in the history of labor.

  50. 50.

    kay

    March 1, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    @Linnaeus:

    I sort of agree with you, in that I don’t see how it ends. I don’t see a way.
    Walker is a wild-eyed ideologue lunatic, and you can’t negotiate with crazy people.
    I was so struck by how the Wisconsin protesters were negotiating with the police agencies, while Walker made the round of cable news shows. One step forward, two back, for hours. Because keeping the peace is hard work. Any idiot can start a war.
    He should sit in on that, keep his mouth shut, and try to learn something from the grown-ups.

  51. 51.

    debbie

    March 1, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    @ SiubhanDuinne:

    At least Rich won’t get caught behind the NYT paywall.

  52. 52.

    debbie

    March 1, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    I don’t have the time to check out the Columbus Dispatch link, but the fetus comes courtesy of an out-of-state organization called Faith to Action.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    March 1, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    @MattR:

    Given the sonograms I’ve seen of even three month old fetuses, I think the line of questioning is going to be, “Wait, where is it? What are we supposed to be looking at? Are you sure that’s it? It doesn’t look like it. I think it’s in the upper right … no, lower left … no, no, wait … No, I don’t think that’s the heartbeat, I think it’s a dead pixel in the monitor … It’s got to be in there somewhere …”

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

Recent Comments

  • Omnes Omnibus on Wednesday Morning Open Thread: The GOP Insists There Will Be Blood Impeachment (Apr 17, 2024 @ 10:32am)
  • bbleh on Wednesday Morning Open Thread: The GOP Insists There Will Be Blood Impeachment (Apr 17, 2024 @ 10:30am)
  • UncleEbeneezer on Wednesday Morning Open Thread: The GOP Insists There Will Be Blood Impeachment (Apr 17, 2024 @ 10:29am)
  • Betty Cracker on Wednesday Morning Open Thread: The GOP Insists There Will Be Blood Impeachment (Apr 17, 2024 @ 10:29am)
  • JAFD on Distribution of Medical Spending in the US Population (Apr 17, 2024 @ 10:29am)

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Balloon Juice Meetups!

All Meetups
Talk of Meetups – Meetup Planning
Proposed BJ meetups list from frosty

Fundraising 2023-24

Wis*Dems Supreme Court + SD-8
Virginia House Races
Four Directions – Montana
Worker Power AZ
Four Directions – Arizona
Four Directions – Nevada

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
Positive Climate News
War in Ukraine
Cole’s “Stories from the Road”
Classified Documents Primer

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Mailing List Signup
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Links)
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Posts)

Fix Nyms with Apostrophes

Balloon Juice for Ukraine

Donate

Twitter / Spoutible

Balloon Juice (Spoutible)
WaterGirl (Spoutible)
TaMara (Spoutible)
John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
David Anderson
Major Major Major Major
ActualCitizensUnited

Political Action 2024

Postcard Writing Information

Balloon Juice for Four Directions AZ

Donate

Balloon Juice for Four Directions NV

Donate

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2024 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!