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You are here: Home / Economics / Fuck The Middle-Class / We’re bi-winning

We’re bi-winning

by DougJ|  March 4, 20116:15 pm| 52 Comments

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The Wall Street Journal editorial page and Scott Rasmussen are both concern trolling the hell out of Scott Walker.

The Wisconsin ActBlue for funding the recall of Republican State Senators page raised nearly 25K over the past day.

I thought all along that brazen union-busting would backfire but I didn’t think it would happen this fast.

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  1. 1.

    General Stuck

    March 4, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Gotta hand to those Wi dem senators, they got staying power. I figured they would make their point and come home, but are still on the lam leaving the sheriff to stew in his wingnut pot. When you’ve lost Rasmussen, time for the crusading winger to pack it in.

  2. 2.

    Superluminar

    March 4, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    From the WSJ article:

    If history is any guide, more than 90% of union money will be used to defeat Republicans no matter what happens

    I wonder why that is…

  3. 3.

    David Koch

    March 4, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    WSJ caving was the first Domino.

  4. 4.

    cathyx

    March 4, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    @General Stuck: In this case there is no such thing as making their point and going home. If they went home, their point would be lost.

  5. 5.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    I was a primary school teacher for most of my life. We moved around a lot because my husband, Keith, was a high ranking Klan official whose role was to check out the bona fides of new Klaverns before they were certified.

    We lived in Plainfield, Iowa for a couple of years, and I taught at the local primary school, which was tiny – only about twenty students.

    I remember little Scotty Walker. He was a sweet boy, but dumb as a fish. He used to look at me as if I was speaking Cantonese, when all I was trying to do was get him to put his pants back on after I’d changed his nappy.

    Anal incontinence is so unpleasant in a nine year old.

    But now he’s grown up and he’s turned into a real great American patriot fighting against the communists.

    It goes to show you never can tell.

  6. 6.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: It’s hard to think of anything to add.

  7. 7.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    March 4, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Of course, Rove is orchestrating the WSJ and Rasmussen response.

    They spent 20 years making in roads into unions. A lot of divide and conquer via race, resentment, and faux social issues, and all that hard work lost in two weeks.

    Walker is a zealot who keeps Reagoon’s photo in his top drawer. He isn’t taking Rove’s orders, he’s gone rogue. So now Rove has to create an avalanche of pressure make Walker cave.

  8. 8.

    Mark S.

    March 4, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    @Superluminar:

    Let’s see if we can use WSJ’s logic in another context:

    It’s foolish to believe that backing down will satisfy African Americans. If history is any guide, more than 90% of them will vote against Republicans no matter what happens.

    The idea of trying to appeal to people outside of your base never occurs to conservatives, because they are so principled.

  9. 9.

    Doug Hill

    March 4, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    It was a teen-age wedding and the old folks wished them well.

  10. 10.

    cthulhu

    March 4, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit): I think zealot is correct. Of course in the current GOP this is far more acceptable than ever before. But still, it is becoming very apparent that Walker doesn’t have the chops to be a successful politician. He could get 90% of what he wants which would be a great GOP success/will do plenty of damage but he’s going to end his career prematurely fighting quixotically for that last 10%. Had he at least made the pretense of being genuinely sympathetic to, um, anyone, the Dem Senators might look less like heroes. As it is, Walker has managed to cast himself as the villain.

  11. 11.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    March 4, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    for those of us who refuse to click on the WSJ editorial page, can you give us a summary.

  12. 12.

    Doug Hill

    March 4, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    @Mike Kay (True Grit):

    WSJ claims Senate Republicans may vote against Walker’s bill.

  13. 13.

    agrippa

    March 4, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Walker is a zealot with no sense. All this was completely unnecessary. Walker could have negotiated in good faith and gotten most of what he should have wanted.

    But, he is not a responsible adult. Perhaps he has a flat learning curve.

  14. 14.

    BGinCHI

    March 4, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Walker has the Palin touch: go as hard as you can for the 27% and refuse to budge.

    It’s fun to watch Huck, Mitt, and T-Paw trying this and failing.

    so let’s recap. You can either go with a solid minority that would never get you anywhere, or you can fail to even get that by holding contradictory positions.

    USA! USA!

  15. 15.

    Superluminar

    March 4, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    @Mark S.
    Of course, we could go to Sully for more cognitive dissonance: (on Libya)

    No sudden moves. He waits until those he needs to engage have played their hand. Then he moves.

    And not before.

    A few posts later(on the Deficeit)…

    What do we have instead? A president too calculating to take a stand

  16. 16.

    Superluminar

    March 4, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Sigh. FYWPOAFSWARA.

  17. 17.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @Doug Hill:

    It was a teen-age wedding and the old folks wished them well.

    I know that’s a Dixie Chicks lyric, young man, because Bishop O’Reilly came to our church and played their songs for us so we would know the evil slatterns’ devil music when we heard it and would be able to deal with it appropriately, for example by setting them on fire.

    I must be getting old if I am accidentally quoting those hell harridans and not noticing. Time for another shot of Nyquil and a quick nap.

    By the way, I do like your new name. So much more dignified than that old thing you used to go by.

    “hip-hop artist from Idaho” – sometimes I even make myself laugh.

  18. 18.

    General Stuck

    March 4, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @cathyx:

    I am glad they did what they did and have stuck to it. That doesn’t make what they are doing especially noble, because elections should matter and not showing up is no different, imo, than the wingnuts in the US senate abusing rules to not show up there, at least allowing an up or down vote.

    Or, anything not illegal is fair game for political warfare, but that doesn’t make it fit for a medal.

  19. 19.

    BGinCHI

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    @General Stuck: Good point, GS. At some point, and the timing is crucial, the Dem Sens are going to have to come back and let a vote happen.

    When it does they need to be poised to demonstrate that “elections have consequences,” but not in a way the state GOP reckoned.

  20. 20.

    Cat Lady

    March 4, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    What about selling Wisconsin’s power plant to the Kochs in a no bid sale? Where does that stand? To me, that’s the part of the bill that even the wingnut Senators should be able to hide behind as a reason to jump Walker’s sinking ship. That provision is the tell behind this whole drama.

  21. 21.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    I-am-thinkin’ that you and that-thar “Doug Hill” are a-sock-puppeting us today, or my name isn’t “Chuck Berry”.

    Oh, wait…it isn’t.

  22. 22.

    General Stuck

    March 4, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Yes, they will, and the timing is crucial as you say. When I say not necessarily noble, I do mean brave. Everything done in politics not illegal, is a test, and a risk. The dem senators put in on the line with their seats in the lege, for the eternal equalizer in a democracy, which is the next election. It looks like they challenged the wingers in the thunderdome, and the good folks of WI gave the thumbs down to the wingnut huckster they voted in a their Governor. It could have just as easily gone the other way.

    And it all comes under one of my guiding personal beliefs for engaging in this crazy but important shit.

    There are no heroes in politics, left or right, only people who want something, and people who want something else.

    They wanted something and were willing to take the risk. No harm it that, all said and done.

  23. 23.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Goodness, whar’s mah grammah? Ah shudda sed, “I’ma-thinkin’.

    Tried to “Edit”, but the dagnabit thing wuddunt let me.

  24. 24.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    @Tax Analyst:

    I hope you people aren’t going to make me continually deny that I am this “DougP” or “Doug Hill” or “Dug in” or whatever his name is.

    His identities apparently rarely admit they are trolling, whereas I freely admit I am a troll, trolling this piss filled wading pool you call a website with the nets of Jesus Christ our Lord.

    If I can bring one of you sodomites to be saved and crunched between God’s bloody teeth, rather than being cast into hell and poked in the fundament with knitting needles for eternity by demons dressed as Mike Huckabee, then my work will not have been in vain.

  25. 25.

    Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen

    March 4, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    @Superluminar: Because unions are full of ‘Muricuh hatin’ communis who tukrjebs!

  26. 26.

    Superluminar

    March 4, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    @sarah, proud and true

    trolling this piss filled wading pool you call a website

    I cannot believe that you would use a cuss word! This is most unbecoming for a lady who professes to be a Christian! I am afraid I shall have to forego any future viewing of this disgusting, vile and obscene snuff-movie of a blog.

  27. 27.

    cokane

    March 4, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Meanwhile… all the stuff Walker wants in Wisconsin seems like it’s going to happen for real in Ohio.

  28. 28.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    @Superluminar:

    If it is in Shakespeare, it doesn’t count as a cuss word, dear.

    If I were you, I’d be more worried about the state of your soul than my vocabulary.

    Edited to add – unless Falstaff is the only character to use it, in which case it is probably not acceptable.

  29. 29.

    rikyrah

    March 4, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    when Rasmussen can’t cook the books for you, and confirms what everyone else says… you know he’s flailing.

  30. 30.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    Thanks for the clarification, you snaggle-pussed old wombat. And I mean that with no disrespect to any other snaggle-pussed old wombats out there.

    Anyway, I have it on fairly good authority that Mike Huckabee-dressed demons will not be part of my eternal torture & torment, although it’s not exactly been made clear whose wretched persona will be represented. I guess Time & Eternity will tell, won’t it?

  31. 31.

    Triassic Sands

    March 4, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    This isn’t about Walker, but another of those priceless Republican governors, Christie.

    I went to Politifact today to see what they had for old Governor Christie. I mean the guy’s been running his mouth constantly and the MSM seems to love the guy.

    Result? Not a single statement made by Christie has been evaluated by Politifact.

    I sent them an email asking about this — to me, at least — amazing oversight. To their credit they got right back to me, but the answer was “no.” It wasn’t my poor search skills that turned up nothing for Christie, but Politifact really hasn’t bothered to evaluate a single statement of his, to date.

    Their response:

    We’re working on it. Hope to have some progress on this front in the next few weeks….

    I don’t know what to make of that.

  32. 32.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    @Tax Analyst:

    I had to google to find out what a “wombat” is.

    I hope you think you are this clever when your eyeballs are exploding with the infernal heat.

  33. 33.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    @Triassic Sands:

    I went to Politifact today to see what they had for old Governor Christie. I mean the guy’s been running his mouth constantly and the MSM seems to love the guy.
    Result? Not a single statement made by Christie has been evaluated by Politifact.

    I don’t know what to make of that.

    Perhaps that’s Teflon surrounding his rotting innards and not avariciously-acquired fat as one might have originally supposed.

  34. 34.

    Tax Analyst

    March 4, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    I hope you think you are this clever when your eyeballs are exploding with the infernal heat.

    I probably will. I can be amazingly slow on the up-take when I’ve stumbled into a serious bind. That’s what can happen when you take everything as a joke, not that this could happen to you, of course.

    I’d say “see ya’ around down there”, but that might not be the case if my eyeballs are ‘splodin’. Maybe I’ll just try to splash a little your way just to kinda say “Hi!”. I don’t think there would be any real point in being hostile in Hell, do you?

  35. 35.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    @Tax Analyst:

    I suspect that, even if I was, through some terrible mistake, to find myself in hell, I would be in a different circle than you.

    I’d be in the one with air conditioning and cool drinks and a view of the torture chambers, where the worst torture is an occasional forced viewing of “Gilligan’s Island”.

    You, my dear, wouldn’t.

  36. 36.

    cthulhu

    March 4, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    @Tax Analyst: Yeah, what’s with the edit function not working? A little minor torture as you become aware of the typo but can’t do anything about it, all while a clock ticks down, ha.

  37. 37.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    @cthulhu:

    I have found, dear, that if you right click and open the edit window in a new tab, it allows you to edit.

    ETA – I like your name dear. My God has big sharp teeth and tentacles too.

  38. 38.

    burnspbesq

    March 4, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    “Wombat” is also the nickname of a famous gay athlete. Deal with it.

  39. 39.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    famous gay athlete

    I don’t think there can be such a thing, dear. The gays are good at knitting and dancing and cottaging, but not sport, or at least that’s what my nephew Charles tells me, and he should know because he lives in Seattle.

  40. 40.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 4, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    @Superluminar: Does anybody else want to say to Sully;

    What’s this “we” shit, BeardBoy? Aren’t you still a Brit on the lam?

    I can be as tribal as the wingnuts, when need be. C’est la vie say the old folks.

  41. 41.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 4, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Are you mocking me, madame?

  42. 42.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Are you mocking me, madame?

    No. I like you.

    But then again, I’m an old lady with impulse control issues who worships a god that Lovecraft would have found a bit too creepy, so what do I know?

  43. 43.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    No. I like you.

    Good; I kinda like you, too. And hell, anything that might creep out Lovecraft is intriguing, at the very least.

  44. 44.

    cthulhu

    March 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: And also treats his followers about as well as the non-followers.

  45. 45.

    Johannes

    March 4, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  46. 46.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @cthulhu:
    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    We shall all be poo from the Holy Colon one day.

  47. 47.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    @Johannes:

    I don’t have a newsletter, dear, just my occasionally hysterical rantings on here.

  48. 48.

    cthulhu

    March 4, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Well, i suppose that’s preferable to sitting through church sermons.

  49. 49.

    Kristine

    March 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    If I can bring one of you sodomites to be saved and crunched between God’s bloody teeth, rather than being cast into hell and poked in the fundament with knitting needles for eternity by demons dressed as Mike Huckabee, then my work will not have been in vain.

    Tunch has finally learned to type, hasn’t he?

  50. 50.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    March 4, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Kristine:

    Laugh it up, sinner.

  51. 51.

    RalfW

    March 5, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I just helped (in my small, collectivist way) push the ActBlue recall fund over $42K. The only think these Koch assholes understand is organized money. So give if you can, they’re starting to get scared.

  52. 52.

    johnny walker

    March 5, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Wait, so Stephen Moore is a secret liberal or at least secretly pro-union? Concern trolling would be a pro-union guy pretending to be a Republican and telling Walker he should stop the union-busting because it will damage the GOP. I think it’d be more accurate to characterize Moore’s piece as simply concerned, given that he’s a true believer and would very much like to see Walker’s agenda implemented.

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