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You are here: Home / Politics / Politicans / David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute / Say Goodbye to DougJ

Say Goodbye to DougJ

by John Cole|  March 7, 20113:36 pm| 122 Comments

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We may never see him again, because Bobo has a blog.

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  1. 1.

    beltane

    March 7, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    How long will that comment thing last?

    Does this make David Brooks “a troll with a blog”?

  2. 2.

    geg6

    March 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Oh, please FSM, tell me it’s not so!

    Who the hell would read Bobo’s blog other than DougJ? I really don’t want to ever go there, but if Doug will be spoof trolling, it will be too much fun to miss.

  3. 3.

    joe from Lowell

    March 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Today I watched some people from across the parking lot. Although I never spoke to them or heard what they were saying, I really though I understood what made them tick, and wouldn’t you know it? It confirmed what I’ve long believed about American society.

    – joe from Lowell’s first column

    Gimme money.

  4. 4.

    Donut

    March 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I am surprised it took five paragraphs for Bobo to pimp his latest book. Still…not very smooth.

  5. 5.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Is it me or did Bobo just completely misunderstand Wolfe’s point about the dorms?

    Um, I don’t think he was making a Malcolm Gladwell point there, dumbass.

    Is Brooks a fucking virgin, or what?

  6. 6.

    cathyx

    March 7, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Oh, he’ll be back very soon because Bobo’s comments will be turned off in no time.

  7. 7.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    @joe from Lowell: I thought your comment was gonna end, “…and then I realized I was looking into a giant mirror.”

  8. 8.

    MonkeyBoy

    March 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Those with amazon accounts (or sign up for a new one) can help by adding descriptive tags to Bobo’s book, or voting up existing ones.

    Presently, bourgeois wish fulfillment, and condescending narcissism seem to be favorite tags.

    For an unknown reason the tag votes can change from say 5 on one page load to 15 on a later page load and then back again.

    And remember, Huck’s book still needs some help with tags.

  9. 9.

    soonergrunt

    March 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    You should promote matoko_chan to front pager now with ED gone and DougJ busy.
    It will really give BJ that certain je ne se quois, you know?

  10. 10.

    The Ancient Randonneur (formerly known as The Grand Panjandrum)

    March 7, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    We now have proof positive that the FSM loves us and wants us to be happy.

  11. 11.

    hilts

    March 7, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Say Goodbye to DougJ

    Jesus, Cole! What the Hell are you trying to do, give me a Fucking Heart Attack with that blog post title.

    My nerves are frayed enough. Please, no more incendiary, alarm bell headlines like Say Goodbye to DougJ.

  12. 12.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    March 7, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Now I know why Brooks is so worried about the rich keeping their money. Based on his blog’s comments, he has a hell of lot of syncophants on his payroll.

  13. 13.

    Dave

    March 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Will Bobo run Applebee’s ads on his blog?

  14. 14.

    Valdivia

    March 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Fuck the title almost gave me a heart attack. But you’re right we’ll never see him again

  15. 15.

    dr. bloor

    March 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    With comments.

    Just to confirm that he lacks self-awareness every bit as much as we thought he did.

    Cathyx is right. The comments will be turned off when he sees he’s getting nothing but excerpts of his book reviews on Amazon.

  16. 16.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    March 7, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    ‘Twas the sixth day of March in Twenty Eleven
    When DougJ. was enraptured
    With Hell or with Heaven?

    So long, Doug, it’s been good to know you.

  17. 17.

    martha

    March 7, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    John, I am the third person who you almost killed this afternoon with that title. I have had a difficult month already. I don’t need to lose Doug J on top of everything else. I suppose I can wander over to Bobo’s blog (until they disable comments, which will be, oh, by Thursday…) and read him there until he’s back here full time.

    Yes, I love you too.

  18. 18.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    John Cole @ Top:

    We may never see [DougJ] again, because Bobo has a blog.

    Isn’t DougJ still banned at the NYTimes, for posting in comments that the only good thing that could come from a podcast pairing Bobo and Gail Collins was a murder-suicide?

    .

  19. 19.

    piratedan

    March 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    based on the comments after his announcement, will there be enough pseudo intellectual ass left to kiss once this transition is completed?

  20. 20.

    Morbo

    March 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Worst post title…ever!

  21. 21.

    Ash Can

    March 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    That loud “thud” you heard a moment ago was me sweeping the big-ass brick off my desk chair after reading that headline. Then I read the post, and LOLed. Go get ’em, Dougie, we’re with you all the way. Bobo won’t know what hit him — of course, he’s the kind of weenie who could get positively eviscerated in the comments and still have no clue what everyone’s actually saying about him.

  22. 22.

    Warren Terra

    March 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Yeah, but the comment moderation on Nytimes blogs makes commenting there profoundly unsatisfying. It is completely normal for a comment to linger for twelve hours before being approved and posted, and that’s a perfectly inoffensive comment. Because the system is so slow, so clearly human-mediated, and so opaque, it isn’t clear what will get denied posting, but it’s the time factor that’s the killer. Comments with this kind of delay work for the posting of screeds but not for the holding of conversations – and baiting the nitwits depends on the ability to hold a conversation.

  23. 23.

    Crashman

    March 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    @geg6:

    Oh, please FSM, tell me it’s not so!

    Who the hell would read Bobo’s blog other than DougJ? I really don’t want to ever go there, but if Doug will be spoof trolling, it will be too much fun to miss.

    Hey now. Our buddy Sully thinks it’s a good start.

  24. 24.

    MikeJ

    March 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    @JGabriel:

    Isn’t DougJ still banned at the NYTimes,

    Tor and mailinator means nobody is ever really banned.

  25. 25.

    The Ancient Randonneur (formerly known as The Grand Panjandrum)

    March 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Just for fun I read his very next post. Classic Bobo, he read the abstract of a scholarly paper was able to jump to a conclusion!

  26. 26.

    beltane

    March 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Meh. It looks like Bobo is also writing the comments on his blog. I was hoping it would be all Doug and PZ Myers over there but all I saw was a lot of Bobo-esque drivel written by the verbose and the clueless.

  27. 27.

    eemom

    March 7, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    my goodness, a novel and now a blog, and he STILL finds time to write his dreckulous column and spew his smarmy lies on Newshour. What a dynamo. Mrs. Brooks must be such a happy lady.

  28. 28.

    Ryan S

    March 7, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    I’m thinking his handle is Jayjay, but Im not sure

  29. 29.

    RSA

    March 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Oh, he’ll be back very soon because Bobo’s comments will be turned off in no time.

    There’s always the “If a tree falls in a forest…” alternative. That is, who can say whether he’ll read the comments?

  30. 30.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    geg6:

    Who the hell would read Bobo’s blog other than DougJ?

    Not me, that’s for sure. It’s not just that I think Bobo is an evil and loathsome excuse for a human being, but that he’s a crap writer, one of the most soporific, inanely pretentious, and idiotic writers I’ve ever seen.

    .

  31. 31.

    catclub

    March 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland: “syncophants on his payroll.”

    Elephants who cannot quite keep the beat?

  32. 32.

    Punchy

    March 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    What’s a “blog”?

  33. 33.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    @soonergrunt: Why do you hate us?

  34. 34.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    March 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    if bobo actually reads the comments i give the blog two weeks.

    if bobo actually understands the comments, friday, morning.

    if someone has to wipe bobo’s ass and read them for him, april 1st

    those are my bold bobo blog predictions.

  35. 35.

    Sapheriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Yay, another newspaper blog without an editor.

  36. 36.

    Poopyman

    March 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I love the “comments” over there that run longer than Bobo’s “Hello World”.

    Also, too, DougJ probably had a heart attack reading the above title.

  37. 37.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    @MikeJ:

    Tor and mailinator means nobody is ever really banned.

    Heh. I’m pretty sure almost everyone filters out TOR traffic (to the extent they can) these days. Don’t know much about mailinator, though.

    .

  38. 38.

    Svensker

    March 7, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    @Ryan S:

    Aren’t you missing the “V”?

  39. 39.

    Chad N Freude

    March 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Go read the comments that are currently attached to the blog. I couldn’t identify anything that looked to me like DougJ, but there are several that could be. And, sadly, nothing from PZ Myers.

    @MonkeyBoy: This weekend on another post about BooBoo’s book, I used the phrases “condescending narcissism” and “narcissistic condescension”. I thought I had made them up, but they may just be part of the culture maven zeitgeist.

  40. 40.

    Cat

    March 7, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    All NYT blog comments are moderated, heavily. So I really really doubt the comments will be troll worthy.

  41. 41.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    March 7, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Should old acquaintance be forgot,
    and never brought to mind ?
    Should old acquaintance be forgot,
    and old lang syne ?

    And surely you’ll buy your pint cup!
    and surely I’ll buy mine!
    And we’ll take a cup o’ kindness yet,
    for auld lang syne.

  42. 42.

    Chat Noir

    March 7, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    @hilts: I had the same reaction.

  43. 43.

    DH Walker

    March 7, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Good lord, the excessive banality of just the first page of comments alone gave me a thudding headache.

  44. 44.

    Svensker

    March 7, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Also, too, how are we in the middle of an intellectual revolution? What evidence does El Bobo give for this? Unless he really meant devolution, in which modern day “intellectuals” such as Hisself are pretty much ignorant dopes.

    Love the letters. “You’re so strong and brave…plus I’ve got this really interesting theory I’d like you to read…”

  45. 45.

    jl

    March 7, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    DougJ Hill was has wandered far into madness already.

    And now this, which will not help.

  46. 46.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    March 7, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    @Cat:

    no biggie, that just means you have to work for it a little bit.

    might i suggest the first musical embed of the bobo blog should be “bohemian like you” by the dandy warhols.

  47. 47.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    @Poopyman: I’m with the other commenters who nearly fell out of her/his chair upon reading the title, but I think your point is even better. I would have loved to see DougJ.’s face upon reading the title of this post.

    @Svensker: Snicker.

    @Violet: And how the hell would he know that? Wanker.

  48. 48.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Brooks would have lasted 1 year, tops, in a competitive humanities PhD program.

    And if he would have survived he would have learned something, be teaching and actually earning a living, and writing nothing like this kind of shit.

    Fail upwards.

  49. 49.

    Violet

    March 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    From Bobo’s blog:

    This blog won’t be about how to vote in the next election. It’ll be about who you are and why you do what you do.

    LOL. Yeah, right. Sure it will.

  50. 50.

    El Cid

    March 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    No thank you.

  51. 51.

    MonkeyBoy

    March 7, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    @Chad N Freude:

    I used the phrases “condescending narcissism” and “narcissistic condescension”. I thought I had made them up,

    See here

    Bobo’s book

  52. 52.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Brooks would have lasted 1 year, tops, in a competitive humanities PhD program.

    … And then Brooks would have spent the rest of his life whinging about how liberals control the academy.

    .

  53. 53.

    Dennis SGMM

    March 7, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Not to worry about Bobo’s online success: friends in the industry tell me that he recently purchased Sockpuppet 2.0™.

  54. 54.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    We may never see him again

    I heard he’s fat, wears glasses but otherwise looks like his hot sister.

  55. 55.

    El Cid

    March 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    @Violet: It will be about why you have become such a bad person in voting incorrectly because you’re not like the heroic stereotypes Brooks discusses who know how to vote correctly.

  56. 56.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Hypothetical:

    The Producers of the show “Undercover Boss” ask Brooks to be on the show, but then they have to cancel when they learn he doesn’t have any employees but thinks everyone in America is his employee.

  57. 57.

    General Stuck

    March 7, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    DougJ is a state of mind, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

    Hotel DougJ

  58. 58.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 7, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    @joe from Lowell:

    Today I watched some people from across the parking lot. Although I never spoke to them or heard what they were saying, I really though I understood what made them tick, and wouldn’t you know it? It confirmed what I’ve long believed about American society.

    Pretty solid, but it lacks the aspect of coining a cutesy name for the group. For instance, because they were in the parking lot and were people, you could call them “ParPees,” and then write several columns about how politicians ignore the interests of the emerging ParPees at their peril.

  59. 59.

    slag

    March 7, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I’m with hilts and everybody else. That title was just traumatic.

    And no, the blog won’t last. Or if it does last, it will be a total snoozefest and DougJ won’t last at it. So, this news, happily, means nothing to my world.

  60. 60.

    Chad N Freude

    March 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    @MonkeyBoy: Like I said, zeitgeist. I guess I’ll have to work harder at thinking up clever phrases.

  61. 61.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    The Producers of the show “Undercover Boss” ask Brooks to be on the show, but then they have to cancel…

    Or, in the alternate: Brooks does a show with Palin which never airs because, mistaking him for a gray bark tree, she shoots him. It does leak, however, and breaks all records to become the most viewed Youtube video ever.

    .

  62. 62.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: How about ParkPeeps? That sounds vaguely titillating.

  63. 63.

    El Cid

    March 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    A Georgia Republican Congressman who’s making sure that his supporters don’t listen to no damn gay Muslim parasite radio.

    From a fund-raising letter by U.S. Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ranger.

    I never listen to NPR. As I travel across Georgia, I tune in to hear Glenn Beck or Rush, Hannity or catch the news or just relax to good ole country music. NPR is too snooty for my taste.
    __
    “The politically correct drivel that passes for entertainment on NPR doesn’t appeal to me. Plus I’m probably like you and I believe that NPR is rightfully under fire from conservatives for firing Juan Williams for having the audacity to be conservative and appear on NPR’s most hated rival, Fox News.
    __
    “Whether NPR is on the air or not wouldn’t matter to me except for this cold hard truth: They’re funded with your tax dollars and mine…
    __
    “The NPR types like to project the image of being all lovey-dovey, but when it comes to negative campaigning, they’re cruel, relentless, personal and fueled by a self-righteous disdain for anything and anybody conservative.

    Remember: this isn’t just your typical Republican diatribe against the tax-sucking commies at NPR & PBS. It’s a fundraising letter which obviously is pitched at a bunch of likewise-thinking yokels happy to kick in money to show what’s what to NPR for its radical elitist Saul Alinsky shows like “Morning Edition”.

    I really wish NPR was more hating of conservatives than it was snooty.

  64. 64.

    Chad N Freude

    March 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    thinks everyone in America is his employee awestruck student

  65. 65.

    crack

    March 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    No one alert Taibbi, his head may explode.

  66. 66.

    HyperIon

    March 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    His regular column often (always?) has comments. And they always run way against him. And he never responds.

    Actually there are a few regular NYT commenters that put various columnists to shame. I’m often more interested in what RealityChex or WinningProgressive has to say than I am in Bobo’s (or Asshat’s) crappy stylings..

    As someone mentioned upstream:

    It is completely normal for a comment to linger for twelve hours before being approved and posted, and that’s a perfectly inoffensive comment.

    I doubt Bobo reads the comments on his NYT column. Why would he read the comments on his blog?

  67. 67.

    Suffern ACE

    March 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    @Violet: I know who I am and know pretty much what I do. It’s Bobo’s class that has some explaining to do.

    If we shone a light on that cohort, they couldn’t help but turn to dust.

  68. 68.

    gogol's wife

    March 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    Co-sign. They also sometimes only show the first 25 comments or so.

  69. 69.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Vaguely titillating, perhaps, but thoroughly revealing. Of the Zeitgeist, I mean.

  70. 70.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    @El Cid: Projection, thy name is Tom Graves. And, I like how he tosses in that he listens to some good ol’ country when he wants to relax.

  71. 71.

    Cris

    March 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    When you gaze into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

  72. 72.

    HyperIon

    March 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    @JGabriel wrote:

    Brooks does a show with Palin which never airs because, mistaking him for a gray bark tree, she shoots him. It does leak, however, and breaks all records to become the most viewed Youtube video ever.

    Thanks for making me laugh.
    He does resemble a gray bark tree.

  73. 73.

    MikeJ

    March 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    @HyperIon:

    I doubt Bobo reads the comments on his NYT column. Why would he read the comments on his blog?

    Not to go all moko loco, but this was the original complaint about one front pager here, but he got better.

  74. 74.

    Punchy

    March 7, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Who’s DougJ, and what does Sully think of him?

  75. 75.

    jl

    March 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Joe from Lowell also did not cite a peer reviewed academic paper about how, when the tall man looked down to talk at the short man, the tallmannoid cycle was obviously being upregulated by the horospheramone that signaled to the epiphreminus that the short man was a lamer wannbe punk.

    Nor, did J f L cite another paper explaining how the curvacious babe’s maternasphere signaled the boobajiggle cycle to commence in order to attract the cash daddy with the largest wad. And how the operational definition of said aforesaid ‘wad’ was currently unresolved.

  76. 76.

    Zifnab

    March 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    We may never see him again, because Bobo has a blog.

    He’ll be back.
    Likely half asleep and smoking a cigarette. But you can only go so long before you need to take a breather. The man’s not a machine.

  77. 77.

    Midnight Marauder

    March 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    I spend a lot of time on college campuses, and I’m not sure these distinctions have any meaning. If you put me in a room with 25 students for an hour, I couldn’t tell if they were from Harvard or Arizona State. There are smart students all over.

    Banal does not even do this drivel justice.

    The 21st century is so.fucked.

  78. 78.

    Cris

    March 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Best comment of the first 25:

    I, for one, shall waste no time getting to the bookstore to purchase your latest opus!
    __
    Karl Bunting
    Slickpoo, Idaho

    I can’t really tell if that’s sarcasm or not, but just knowing that there really is a place called Slickpoo, Idaho made my day happier.

  79. 79.

    soonergrunt

    March 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
    Some people look at the batshit crazy and say “why?”
    I look at them and say “why not?”

  80. 80.

    El Cid

    March 7, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: For more authenticitude he could have mentioned that he’s driving across Georgia in his extended cab full-size ain’t no hybrid here pickup with his trained hunting dog with his rifle in the back window with American flags flying at all 4 corners, and if some damn librul America-hater working at a Starbucks coffee shop reading some damn book don’t like it, then he can kiss his damn red, white and blue ass right above the Robert E. Lee tattoo.

  81. 81.

    Cat

    March 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    @MikeJ:

    moko loco

    I think m_c is just a bit misunderstood and probably through no fault of her own has difficulty with socially acceptable interactions, but “moko loco” is pretty damn funny.

  82. 82.

    Ash Can

    March 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    @El Cid:

    It’s a fundraising letter…

    Fools, their money, etc.

  83. 83.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    HyperIon: You are welcome! We aim to please.

    .

  84. 84.

    Mark S.

    March 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    When I saw the title, I thought maybe Doug was leaving to join the League of Ordinary Gentlemen.

  85. 85.

    El Cid

    March 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    @Cat: I will say no more, but this analysis is disastrously wrong. Trust me on this.

  86. 86.

    jl

    March 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    @Midnight Marauder:

    What struck me about that post on college was that the first half presented evidence that, if successful education can be measured by income, it doesn’t make any difference what college people go to if they perform similarly on standardized pre admission tests.

    Then the second half of that post reporting research that suggested that the behavior of ‘elite employers’ could be summarized using two or three ‘neat status rules’.

    Then the post suddenly ends with this:

    ‘Colleges are distinguished most importantly by their cultures and personalities, not by anything that can be ranked by neat status rules.’

    Huh? I got the message that ‘neat status rules’ are about he only things that determine the immediate post college employment opportunities among ‘elite employers’.

    What Brooks offered as a conclusion seemed a bland non sequitur to me.

  87. 87.

    Culture of Truth

    March 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    But the most important changes are the shifts in culture, ideas and mentalities that people usually don’t even notice until after the fact. In 1960, it would have been absurd for most colleges to have co-ed dorms. A short time later, they were unremarkable.
    Who is paying this moron to write?

  88. 88.

    MikeJ

    March 7, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Related: NPR restricts comments.

  89. 89.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    @JGabriel: That’s really funny; thanks. I miss DougJ(TM) already. And I haven’t seen SPaT today.

  90. 90.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 7, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    @El Cid: It’s disastrously wrong, but terrifically comic in its naivete. Not as funny as Bobo as a shot tree, but funny nonetheless.

  91. 91.

    Zifnab

    March 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    @Midnight Marauder:

    If you put me in a room with 25 students for an hour, I couldn’t tell if they were from Harvard or Arizona State.

    Spoken like a man that thinks all Asian people look alike.
    Honestly, I’ve got a lot more hope for the 21st Century than I’ve got for the 20th.

  92. 92.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @Cris:

    … just knowing that there really is a place called Slickpoo, Idaho made my day happier.

    Looking at it on Google Maps, Slickpoo apparently lies between Culdesac (very literal naming conventions in Idaho) and Winchester — which sounds like a bad joke with a violent ending, but funny because it’s TRUUUE.

    .

  93. 93.

    Ann B. Nonymous

    March 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @El Cid:

    he can kiss his damn red, white and blue ass right above the Robert E. Lee tattoo.

    Just where is that tattoo? Can he make it… speak?

  94. 94.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Yes. joe from Lowell will truly get to see the cleavage of Americans (right and left) from his apartment window.

  95. 95.

    Yevgraf (fka Michael)

    March 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    I looked at the comments and nearly dozed off. It was difficult to tell who was actually fellating him and who was just pretending – there was actually too much subtlety.

  96. 96.

    JGabriel

    March 7, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    @jl:

    What Brooks offered as a conclusion seemed a bland non sequitur to me.

    You used bland and Brooks in the same sentence, which is redundant.

    .

  97. 97.

    singfoom

    March 7, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    @MikeJ: You mean they restrict the automatic posting of comments.

    Context matters. I don’t think it’s a huge deal that they make people audition for automatic posting…

  98. 98.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    @El Cid: Gawd I love it when you go full-metal wingnut on me.

    @JGabriel: Snort!

    @Culture of Truth: Um, the New York Times. Now I haz given myself a sad.

  99. 99.

    Cat

    March 7, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    @El Cid:

    I will say no more, but this analysis is disastrously wrong. Trust me on this.

    I dont have any first hand knowledge m_c, just guessing based on archetypal personas I’ve run into in a field, software engineering , that has a pretty high density of high achieving autistics.

    Of course this is the internet, m_c could be a beta of IBM’s new blog trolling software. :-0

  100. 100.

    Eric S.

    March 7, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    The politically correct drivel that passes for entertainment on NPR

    Mr. Graves is confused about the concept.

  101. 101.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    @Zifnab: My hand shot up at that point cuz I wanted to ask, “What else couldn’t you tell us?”

  102. 102.

    nestor

    March 7, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Dougie we hardly knew ye.

    A stick in me hand and a drop in me eye…

  103. 103.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    @Zifnab: “Baby, please! I am not from Havana.”

  104. 104.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    @BGinCHI: Legions, I tell you. LEGIONS!

  105. 105.

    Jebediah

    March 7, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    I look forward to Bobo explaining me to me. Will he do some background research, maybe call me up and ask a few questions, or will he figure me out through imaginary conversations with imaginary people who don’t know me, but are very much like people who might know someone similar to me?
    Finally, I will have some self-knowledge! At least as much as he’s got, anyway.

  106. 106.

    Tom Levenson

    March 7, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Brooks is just going full McArdle on us. With a blog he can spew nonsense faster than any human can correct.

    We are doomed.

  107. 107.

    BGinCHI

    March 7, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    @Tom Levenson: Tom, don’t try to read both. You’re gonna have to quit your job or leave your wife if you do. There’s only so much time in a day.

  108. 108.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 7, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    @Tom Levenson:

    We are doomed.

    Interesting. One so seldom see that statement ending with a simple period. The exclamation mark is so much more common. Understated pessimism is an almost lost art form. Well done, sir.

  109. 109.

    Ash Can

    March 7, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    @MikeJ #88: And it figures that they’d hire some un-American outfit from the Communist People’s Republic of Canada to carry out this blatant attack on the First Amendment rights. Our government should not be funding any organization that won’t let Real God-Fearing Americans (TM) make asses of themselves in the comments.

  110. 110.

    Maude

    March 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    @Culture of Truth:
    I’ve already asked why he gets paid to write. I don’t understand it.

  111. 111.

    Culture of Truth

    March 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    alright, why is someone paying this moron to write?

  112. 112.

    DonkeyKong

    March 7, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Midnight in the Applebee’s of Good and Evil

  113. 113.

    vtr

    March 7, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    I just read it. How embarrassing.

  114. 114.

    Church Lady

    March 7, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Look at the bright side: Doug will be so busy searching for acorns in Bobo’s new blog that he won’t have time anymore to troll the WaPo’s chats. Now that’s what I call improvement! I

  115. 115.

    dr. bloor

    March 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    This blog won’t be about how to vote in the next election. It’ll be about who you are and why you do what you do.

    This is extremely helpful. Since he clearly knows me so well, I won’t have to waste time dropping by to tell him to DIAF because he’s a dilettantish nimrod.

  116. 116.

    matoko_chan

    March 7, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    I can’t wait for his first post.

  117. 117.

    matoko_chan

    March 7, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    @Mark S.:

    When I saw the title, I thought maybe Doug was leaving to join the League of Ordinary Gentlemen.

    ditto. Can Cole move them into the Blogs-We-Mock column yet? Too soon?

    @MikeJ:

    but he got better.

    Now be honest….he just got better at grifting.

  118. 118.

    matoko_chan

    March 7, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    @Tom Levenson: comments are heavily moderated. I am going to have to find a way to say Salam-Douthat stratification in a more subtle, nuanced fashion.
    ;)

  119. 119.

    WaterGirl

    March 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    @soonergrunt: I ALWAYS skipped over her comments, but I can actually read her and understand her now that she’s back (with complete sentences!) after being banned for awhile.

  120. 120.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    March 7, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    @Midnight Marauder:

    does g sachs money recruit at arizona st? does hooters recruit at harvard?

    i mean i realize asu must be smart with the fierceness with which they protect their honorary degrees and all, but still.

    that passes the smell test about as well as the mayo at apllebees.

  121. 121.

    roshan

    March 8, 2011 at 7:03 am

    Hey DougJ, before Brooks gets to spewing more mindless conservatism, see if you can get him to acknowledge the mistakes and errors of his past.

  122. 122.

    karen marie

    March 8, 2011 at 11:29 am

    David Brooks is an idiot.

    or my conversations with fellow my columnist Gail Collins.

    But there’s an audience for that.

    Glad to see you creating more content. As for who I am and why I do what I do: I’m a business writer, graduated from the University of Chicago in 2008. I look up to you as a professional role model, so keep up the great work!

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