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I went through a long stage of disliking David Broder for being an establishment dispenser of Beltway conventional wisdom. Why he couldn’t he be smarter and more fact-based, like, say, Paul Krugman?

Then I realized that was the wrong comparison. There is not much place for smart, fact- based argument in our system. Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

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  1. 1.

    Bob Loblaw

    What would this blog be like if y’all would stop paying so much attention to people whose opinions you don’t respect intellectually or think are offered in good faith?

    It’s a good thing you’re all such masochists or you’d never have anything to say. But let’s see what Sully thinks first before we’re sure…

  2. 2.

    soonergrunt

    Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    Broder should be noted for being less wet than water, and less dirtier than dirt.
    It’s BECAUSE of David Broder and the low standards he set that we have Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.
    Broder was only the vanguard of useless people in the Washington press corps. Roberts and Cohen are parts of the main body. If it wasn’t for Broder, Roberts would’ve been stuck on the Society pages, and only would’ve gotten that thanks to who her father was, and Cohen would never have risen above puff pieces about new book stores in Arlington and panda births at the National Zoo with the occasional review of a new exhibit at the Smithsonian for the weekend magazine.

  5. 5.

    General Stuck

    Luckily, we have Douthat to follow in Broder’s footsteps bringing the enlightenment of the new generation

  9. 9.

    scarshapedstar

    I’m afraid to see who will be anointed “Dean” next.

    Well, obviously, they’ve gotta pick someone else named David B.

    Oh no…

  10. 10.

    MikeJ

    @Bob Loblaw:

    What would this blog be like if y’all would stop paying so much attention to people whose opinions you don’t respect intellectually

    You’d be banned?

  12. 12.

    Zifnab

    @soonergrunt:

    It’s BECAUSE of David Broder and the low standards he set that we have Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    This.
    David Broder left the door open. Cokie and Cohen (and Donaldson and Will and Blitzer and on and on) just barreled on through after him.

    A better set of journalists would have called their peers out on meandering bullshit. Broder, the so-called “Dean”, turned a blind eye when he wasn’t blowing the same hot air. Now we have to put up with News Anchors like Megyn (with a ‘Y’!) Kelly, like these are serious people.

  13. 13.

    Culture of Truth

    If I may quote, again, “I learned it by watching you… learned it by watching you!!”

  14. 14.

    beltane

    @General Stuck: Aren’t we lucky that no one in the new generation will care what Ross Douthat has to say? Douthat and the rest of them are anachronisms with not much more life in them than Broder himself. I don’t know what this brave new world will bring except that these courtiers, these self-styled serious people will not hold as much sway over our children as they did over our parents.

  15. 15.

    Alex S.

    He appears in Nixonland a few times trashing the Muskie campaign for its affiliation with the working class. Broder was a member of the big money party for more than 40 years. Watergate doesn’t contradict that because Nixon himself could be quite liberal if it got him votes.

  16. 16.

    gypsy howell

    Why NOT hate the player, when the player helped define the game? Seriously, why not?

  17. 17.

    eemom

    Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    Good work, Doug Hill. You righteously and decently set out to Speak Well of the Dead, and given what you had to work with, you did the very best you could.

  18. 18.

    kth

    To be precise, Broder was neither as vapid as Roberts, nor as creepy as Cohen. High praise indeed!

  19. 19.

    soonergrunt

    @Zifnab:

    Cokie and Cohen (and Donaldson and Will and Blitzer)

    they’re like some band of loser reindeer–they just go where they’re led without any real thought at all of what’s at the end of the ride or what they’ll do if something bad happens.

  20. 20.

    eemom

    So, what did he die of? I hope he didn’t wander out the nursing home door into Beltway traffic, like I always said he should.

  22. 22.

    If David Broder wrote his own obituary..

    Many observers say that David Broder is dead, but some insiders have questioned this assessment. They point to evidence that his columns are still running in the newspapers and wonder if the announcement of his death isn’t a trial balloon from the Broder camp designed to gauge the public’s reaction to a new plan under which Broder will die later this spring.

  24. 24.

    300baud

    @gypsy howell:

    Why NOT hate the player, when the player helped define the game? Seriously, why not?

    Personally, I’m perfectly comfortable hating the player and the game. Without players, there is no game.

  25. 25.

    Hunter Gathers

    Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    That is, quite possibly. the biggest insult I’ve ever read in my life. I’d rather be called Hitler than be compared to those two fuckwits.

  26. 26.

    Sentient Puddle

    @eemom: This made me think…if we have to Speak Well of the Dead, we are so fucked when Cohen bites it.

  30. 30.

    nestor

    The Avenue of Totebags was always thick with hookers.

    On a typical Friday night it took us forever to get out of there.

  31. 31.

    JCT

    @eemom: You’re off the hook — “diabetic complications” while in the hospital. Whatever the hell that really means.

    And I’m with soonergrunt on this. Broder was the gateway drug to journalism’s short bus.

  32. 32.

    Scott

    Glad he’s dead. Sorry it didn’t happen decades ago.

    I’m at least pleased that he’ll be almost entirely unmourned. The wingnuts hate him because he worked in the media. The non-wingnuts hate him because he robotically supported everything that was bad for America.

    Oooh, I get a Sullivan award now, don’t I?

  33. 33.

    hilts

    @soonergrunt:

    It’s BECAUSE of David Broder and the low standards he set that we have Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    Don’t forget Joe Klein

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    At his worst, he was an advocate, and at his best (least bad) an apologist, for everything that has gone wrong in this country for the last fifteen years that I’ve been closely following politics. Eric Alterman, who has done the research, puts that time frame at about forty-five years, from Vietnam and Nixon to Iraq, torture and the various obscenities of the Bush/Cheney/McCain/Palin Republican party.

  36. 36.

    JPL

    Broder could have retired years ago before he became a cranky old man and he opened himself to ridicule.

  37. 37.

    piratedan

    @Bob Loblaw: I dunno Bob, perhaps if there was some mediot with the bravery to call out the conservatives/republicans/tehadists/Libertarians from a national platform and begin discussions/discourse on how to fix the ills of our country instead of fellating the corporate interests out there, then there wouldn’t be a need for a blog like this giving you an outlet for your concern troll addictions.

  38. 38.

    soonergrunt

    @hilts: True enough. The list of useless people in the national news and the Washington press corps in particular is long and ‘distinguished.’ And David Broder set the standards for mealy-mouthed half-assed ‘pox-on-both-your-houses’ false equivalency that they’ve all lived down to.

  39. 39.

    hilts

    There is not much place for smart, fact- based argument in our system.

    Doug, there are people out there, but they have been marginalized to a great degree (you won’t find them on cable or on the Sunday morning shows). Check out Chris Hedges, Robert Scheer, Joe Conason, Michael Tomasky, Norman Solomon, Bob Herbert, Naomi Klein, Laura Flanders, Amy Goodman, Thomas Frank, and Errol Lewis.

  40. 40.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @soonergrunt:

    David Broder set the standards for mealy-mouthed half-assed ‘pox-on-both-your-houses’ false equivalency that they’ve all lived down to.

    also, if he didn’t originate the “look forward, not back” idiocy that allows the people who brought us Watergate, Iran/Contra, Impeachement, the Iraq War, et cetera, he certainly sanctified it. If I were making the decisions, he and Russert would spend eternity among the dead of Iraq, listening to the screams of the dying and the tortured

  42. 42.

    JoyousMN

    Apparently it’s “Don’t speak ill of the dead” day here at balloon juice.

    either that or it’s “damn them with faint praise” day.

    I couldn’t tell.

  43. 43.

    BombIranForChrist

    The game doesn’t exist unless it has players willing to play it. And Broder played it to the hilt.

    He was a racist who believed that a bunch of white guys at diners in Iowa were the “real America”, as opposed, I suppose, to the Negroes in the city.

    And he was a sycophant to power.

    It’s probably distasteful to piss on someone’s grave, but this is just a warm-up for when Cheney et al. start passing. I don’t think death excuses a life dedicated to fucking people over for personal aggrandizement. And that is what Broder did with his willfully false arguments as he helped drive debate that led to actual human suffering.

    Fuck ’em.

  44. 44.

    Southern Beale

    Yes, don’t hate the player, hate the game. A commenter at First Draft, my other home when I’m not wasting time here, made this observation:

    I don’t get angry about that anymore. Know when I wrote how they aren’t ignoring us, we’re ignoring them? I meant it. I’m on Twitter all the time now, and I’m finding out all I can handle about the fight people are taking up against Ohio SB5.
    __
    When the Madison capitol building was supposed to be vacated starting at 4 PM a few weeks ago I was sitting there staring at my Twitter stream the whole time while people who were actually there and gave a good goddamn about what was happening were keeping me up to date. CNN and MSNBC weren’t on my radar. I just stopped paying attention to them. And anyone who wants to be informed on the major issues of the day would do well to do the same.
    __
    I’m using my twitter stream to keep track of the fights that are unfolding in Michigan and Florida, seeing what organizing activities the unions are up to, getting great analysis from sites like Plunderbund, links to local Madison newspapers that are reporting actual active-voice events, and so on. I’m checking in on big outlets less and less all the time because of this, and focusing more and more on small, local ones – as well as sites for organizations engaged in activism.

    The national media is largely useless, especially when covering local events and issues, which is increasingly what matters to people.

  46. 46.

    agrippa

    Broder was OK in my book. I frequently thought that he was naive; but, I do not think that was mean or excessively partisan.

  47. 47.

    Corner Stone

    @beltane:

    Aren’t we lucky that no one in the new generation will care what Ross Douthat has to say? Douthat and the rest of them are anachronisms with not much more life in them than Broder himself.

    I swear to you, I read this and and my first thought was “Is she talking about the Salam-Douthat stratification?”

  49. 49.

    Chris

    I wouldn’t be as charitable as you are, Doug. If “I was just following orders” isn’t a good legal defense, then “I was just filling a niche in the political/media ecosystem” isn’t a good moral defense.

    Just because the system rewards center-right assholes doesn’t mean we should let them skate without opprobrium.

  51. 51.

    hilts

    @Corner Stone:

    Agrippa’s comments were mild compared to what Chris Matthews and Charlie Rose will say tonight. Matthews and Rose will deliver the most cloying, nauseating tributes to Broder portraying him as someone who walked on water.

  52. 52.

    beltane

    @Corner Stone: No, no, no. I am not that banned user. But it is true that the NYT/WaPo editorial pages will no longer have quite the same power to shape opinion that they once had. But maybe Jon Stewart will be the new David Broder which brings us all back to square one.

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    We won’t really know very much about Broder until we see the letter he wrote his grandkids after Obama was elected.
    For that is the true measure of a man.

  54. 54.

    beltane

    @hilts: It gets worse. Charlie Rose will assemble a panel of David Brooks, George Will, Howie Kurtz and Bill Kristol to circle jerk over Broder’s corpse.

  55. 55.

    hilts

    @beltane:

    It gets worse. Charlie Rose will assemble a panel of David Brooks, George Will, Howie Kurtz and Bill Kristol to circle jerk over Broder’s corpse.

    This is the journalistic equivalent of waterboarding. Stop this roundtable, I confess!

  57. 57.

    hilts

    The tributes are pouring in

    Broder’s hiring “marked the beginning of the Post’s evolution into a great newspaper,” Post publisher Katharine Weymouth said in an email to staff.

    from Politico article with the headline
    “David S. Broder, dean of political writers, dies at 81”

  58. 58.

    Suffern ACE

    I am too polite too say something so soon, but I hope that he is remembered as the monster who wrote a column last October “advising” Obama to bring the nation together and fix the economy by fomenting a war with Iran. In his last years, he represented the true insanity of the pseudo centrists. He was a symbol of the barely civilized veneer that barely covers craven death fantasies.

  59. 59.

    gypsy howell

    If I were making the decisions, he and Russert would spend eternity among the dead of Iraq, listening to the screams of the dying and the tortured

    I second that. No one gets a pass just because they died. Especially if they had the good fortune to die at home in bed at a ripe old age, after applauding and sagely approving the death and torture of so many others.

  60. 60.

    Joe Bauers

    @If David Broder wrote his own obituary..: The truth, as is always the case, lies in the middle. Mr. Broder is half-dead. Whether he will write half as many columns or the same number as before but half as long remains to be seen. Either way, Republicans say, it’s good news for Republicans.

  61. 61.

    El Tiburon

    Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    Let’s play:

    Snooki should be praised for being classier than Amy Whinehouse and Michelle “Bombshell” McGee.

    Andy Dick should be praised for being more in control than Charlie Sheen and Chris Farley.

    Sarah Palin should be praise for being less batshit crazy than Michelle Bachman and Louie Gohmert.

  62. 62.

    Judas Escargot (aka ninja fetus with a taste for bruschetta)

    I always used to confuse “David Broder” and “David Brooks”, to the point where when I try to recall either’s face, I get the same general fuzzy image.

    Now, when I see/read one of them, I can just remind myself “Broder’s the dead one, so this must be the other one!”

  63. 63.

    Elizabelle

    @JCT:

    Broder was the gateway drug to journalism’s short bus.

    Epitaph material. I salute you.

  64. 64.

    Carl Nyberg

    The thing that’s so ingenious about using Cokie Roberts to dispense Beltway CW is that she’s got credibility with older, educated otherwise liberal women.

    Broder may have spoke to insiders, but I never got the sense he had much influence outside people who wanted to believe in the DC establishment already.

  65. 65.

    Jamey: Bike Commuter of the Gods

    @Judas Escargot (aka ninja fetus with a taste for bruschetta):

    I always used to confuse “David Broder” and “David Brooks”, to the point where when I try to recall either’s face, I get the same general fuzzy image.

    Now, when I see/read one of them, I can just remind myself “Broder’s the dead one, so this must be the other one; I hope the other one’s next!”

    Fixed.

  66. 66.

    Bex

    @hilts: OMG now Washington Week will have to get a “new” panelist and you can bet it WON’T be Hedges, Sheer, Conason, Tomasky, Solomon, Herbert, Klein, Flanders, Goodman, Frank or Lewis.

  67. 67.

    Tony J

    “He came in and wrecked the place, and it wasn’t his to wreck.”

    Stolen from elsewhere, but that about sums him up, no?

  68. 68.

    hilts

    @Bex:

    America is completely fucked up beyond repair. Game, set match.

    @beltane:

    Maybe Jon Stewart will be the new David Broder

    No “maybe” is necessary, Stewart IS the new David Broder.

  69. 69.

    Brachiator

    Broder should be praised for having been smarter and more diligent than Cokie Roberts and Richard Cohen.

    Ouch. A hit, a very palpable hit.

    I still recall one of Krugman’s early appearances on the ABC Sunday show. Cokie, clearly exasperated at having to think about economics, couldn’t respond to Krugman and instead blubbed dismissively that the politicians on the Hill would just vote what they wanted without really understanding anything about deficits and their impact on GDP.

  70. 70.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    Broder’s dead?

    If judging by his columns, he actually died 20 years ago give or take.

  71. 71.

    somethingblue

    It may seem perverse to suggest that, at the very moment his demise is being savored by anyone with a halfway-functional brain in his or her head, David Broder is poised for a comeback. But don’t be astonished if that is the case.

    True, Broder has gone through a period of wrenching adjustment to his reduced status. But he now shows signs of renewed energy and is regaining the initiative on several fronts …

  72. 72.

    Mark S.

    @Suffern ACE:

    I forgot about that Iran column.

    I am not suggesting, of course, that the president incite a war to get reelected. But the nation will rally around Obama because Iran is the greatest threat to the world in the young century. If he can confront this threat and contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions, he will have made the world safer and may be regarded as one of the most successful presidents in history.

    Just like we were made safer by the Iraq invasion and Bush is regarded as one of the most successful presidents in history. It will be different this time, because Iran is three times bigger than Iraq and will greet us with flowers.

  73. 73.

    agorabum

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I had wondered if he was an eternal hack, only really just went downhill after hitting 65 or so.
    I’d hoped he’d done something worthwhile; that he did provide something useful to the world.
    Sounds like that’s not the case.

  75. 75.

    HyperIon

    This post is about as insightful as Broder, Cohen, and Roberts are on their best days.

    Does that make DougJ proud?

  78. 78.

    rapier

    The timing may in hindsight seem portentous. For it is my belief that his comfortable world, run and managed by very serious people out of Washington DC is breaking down.

    The panic of 08 was the first crack and while the ‘recovery’ seems to have reinforced the wisdom of the wise men in fact the recovery is false. An illusion, the last one, built upon inertia and hubris.

    Of course I could be wrong but before the end of June the cracks in the political economy are going to become fissures nobody can pretend to ignore.

  79. 79.

    alwhite

    HEY! I understand syphilis is not as bad as chlamydia and can be cured unlike herpes – still I have nothing nice to say about it.

    My mom always said if you can’t say something nice about a man say nothing at all. So here is what I will say about “the dean”
    .
    .
    .

  80. 80.

    Ozymandias, King of Ants

    @Suffern ACE:

    I am too polite too say something so soon

    I, however, am not, so:

    Fuck David Broder.

    I’m glad he’s dead.

    May he rot in hell for all eternity.

  82. 82.

    BGinCHI

    I can’t wait till Jesus or Satan tell Broder:

    “No, both sides don’t do it.

    Way to waste your life, genius.”

  83. 83.

    EthylEster

    @agrippa wrote:

    I do not think that was mean or excessively partisan.

    He was neither IMO. In fact I think he genuinely hated meanness and excessive partisanship.

    He was, however, another powerful journalist who seemed to get left behind by the modern world. He was CLUELESS about the venality of the some of the folks he covered. And in his later years, totally lacking in the desire to comprehend WTF was happening. He kept applying his old analysis even when it was obviously out-moded.

  84. 84.

    Josh

    But even in his thirties he was “left behind by the modern world”: look at his writing on Vietnam.

  85. 85.

    Corner Stone

    @agrippa: I would suggest just not very perceptive.
    Broder did more to damage our “civil” discourse than any right wing nutjob pundit ever could.
    Broder mainstreamed the false equivalence of civility for one side while the other side called us traitors, threatened us with eliminationist rhetoric, and otherwise took a battleaxe to our agenda.
    This latest NPR flapdoodle is just more of his godsdamned legacy.

  87. 87.

    Mike Kay (Ding-Dong-Broder's Dead)

    Kind of fitting that the Great Satan died of Diabetes considering everything he did to impede government research, including blocking stem cell research.

    Live by the wingnut, die by the wingnut.

  88. 88.

    Mike Kay (Ding-Dong-Broder's Dead)

    I haven’t been this happy since traitor Bob Novak checked out.

  89. 89.

    Triassic Sands

    I think this latest move by Broder is probably the beginning of a big turnaround in his fortunes. I expect to see his poll numbers rise dramatically in the near future as this latest comeback gains momentum.

  90. 90.

    max hats

    In regards to David Broder’s death, I think we need to step back from partisan politics and look at this issue from an informed, moderate perspective.

  91. 91.

    JWL

    Hill: Well done. “If you can’t say anything nice about someone, damn them with faint praise”.

  92. 92.

    Ronc99

    I am glad the SOB is dead — his corporatist BS was carried locally in my small liberal city. He has done immense damage with his lies all over this nation. He was the spreader of myths for Wall Street and the military industrial complex.

    I pity him ZERO and it is the height of false equivalency that he’s better than those two other morons, Cokie or Cohen.

  93. 93.

    Ajay

    I dont hate him or think of him any stronger terms except that he was woefully incompetent. The fact that he is dead, doesnt change it. There are many replacements waiting to be the next Broder.

  95. 95.

    Church Lady

    You people are truly unlikeable. Every time someone dies that you don’t think was a cheerleader for your team you can’t wait to figuratively spit on their grave. Karma’s a bitch and someday it will come back to bite you on the ass.

  96. 96.

    Brandon

    This column from FAIR about David Broder is from 1994! It reads like a broken record of his various crimes over the past 10 years. I guess the best I could say about the man is that at least he has been consistent. But not entirely, it seems that the ‘Dean’ was rather quick to figure out which side of the bread is buttered with the rise of our Galtian overlords.

    Broder’s most independent moments were his attacks on Reagan’s economic program in the years 1981-84, in which he assailed Reagan (and the supportive Democrats) for a damaging policy mix that promised dire consequences. Over succeeding years, however, Broder’s focus was increasingly on the deficit and its threat alone, and the menace of “runaway entitlement spending” (1/2/94).

    Read the rest.

    Broder relies heavily on government officials… He never questions their motives, and with rare exceptions takes what they say at face value. On Reagan’s bombing of Libya in 1986, Broder assured his readers (4/20/86) that “Reagan has been insistent that every possible step be taken to spare the innocent,” an unverifiable claim of no value except as official propaganda.

    …

    He had no column on civil rights during the Reagan years, when civil rights laws were gutted. Only one Reagan-era article devoted even a few paragraphs to environmental policy (7/25/82), criticizing the “environmental extremism of the Carter administration.”

    …

    South Africa was also ignored by Broder in the Reagan/Bush years. He never discussed the apartheid system, South Africa’s assaults on its neighbors, Reagan’s policy of “constructive engagement” or U.S.-backed Angolan guerrilla Jonas Savimbi.

    …

    Broder doesn’t attack or try to discredit Republican leaders; he leans over backwards to pat them on the back. Thus, Lee Atwater, the organizer of the Willie Horton campaign of 1988 is “tough and effective” (11/25/90); George Bush, ultimately responsible for the Horton ploy, did this despite a “life-long history of tolerance and decency in racial matters” (6/9/91).

    …

    Broder is more severe on Democrats, except those hard to distinguish from Republicans (so-called “New Democrats”). For Broder (8/14/87), those who attacked the Bork appointment were “quick-lip liberals” who “pop off in opposition.” Jerry Brown, campaigning in 1992, was attacked (2/26/92) as a “loud-voiced protest candidate” offering left-wing populism and “phony salvation.”

    …

    he Grenada invasion he found entirely justifiable based on our natural imperial rights (11/2/83): “We are old-fashioned enough to think that, even in a nuclear age, there are such things as spheres of influence and geographical areas of vital interest.”

    Broder was equally keen on the Panama invasion of 1989. He criticized (1/14/90) an open letter to President Bush that called attention to the invasion’s violations of the U.N. Charter and OAS agreement, signed by “69 left-wing politicians and activists” (including former Sen. J.W. Fulbright). Broder dismissed it as “nonsense” and simply “static on the left.”

    During the Gulf War, Broder exceeded himself in patriotic ardor, complaining of the Democrats’ “usual spectacle of disarray” in failing to give Bush immediate authority to fight (1/11/91), and accepting without question the administration’s false claim of an interest in a diplomatic solution to the crisis (8/19/90, 1/18/91, 4/10/91).

    …

    On most foreign and economic policy issues, Broder lines up with the conservatives. He relies heavily on official and conservative institutional sources, engages in minimal independent research, and rarely asks hard questions.

    He even helps keep debates within proper bounds by castigating those who challenge establishment premises as extremists, or by simply ignoring them.

    Your liberal media. Right there folks.

  97. 97.

    General Stuck

    sometimes i’m late on the uptake, especially with post titles, but kudos to you DougJ, don’t hate the player, especially the now dead ones. I just can’t hate on newly dead folks, It may well be a weakness somehow on my part.

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